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Aviatik 30.40, 1/48, update 22.11.21 Finish
« on: September 04, 2021, 04:13:38 AM »
Spoked wheels 1/48


After Dave put the spoked wheels tutorial online again I read it carefully, also the posting created by Kent.
The last days I experimented a bit and followed finally the way of Kent because I thought it is easier to realize.

So I made my own tool, only all a bit smaller due to intend scale of 1/48.
The first tries failed, the I made an aluminum spacer on the lathe.



The next things are needed are two small rim halves, turned from aluminum on lathe. The hub was soldered.



The hub is here on the drill shaft, one half rim locked on the spacer and a first layer of spokes is wound in.



The second layer of spokes uses an offset row of nails and runs on top of the hub.



Now comes a tricky part!
The second half of the rim is put on top, needs to pressed down heavily and the rims are glued together with the spokes with CA.



After the glued is hard all the threads around can be cut and the wheel removed from the tool. I secured again with CA and cleaned the rim outside. I used some wheels from the spare box for the tires.



The tries are not yet glued, I painted only the spokes with some dark metal paint.



The outer diameter of the rim is 10mm.



Thanks to this great forum I'm really happy with the result of my first spoked wheels!

Cheers,
Frank
PS: This thread will be enhanced to a build report.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2021, 04:29:43 AM by Bughunter »

Offline gedmundson

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Re: Spoked wheels, 1/48
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2021, 04:29:41 AM »
That worked out brilliantly, Frank! What kind of thread did you use for the spokes?
Cheers,
Gary

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Re: Spoked wheels, 1/48
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2021, 04:45:12 AM »
Thank you Gary!
Oh yes, I forgot that: that is 0.04mm fishing line, ordered on ebay some years ago. I don't have a brand name.

I ordered 0.02, 0.04, 0.06 and 0.08mm fishing line, only a short piece, to check how it looks in real. After check I decided to order more of this 0.06mm for rigging. All come on black no name spools, the seller is no more active on ebay :(

For the spokes I used now the 10m trial of 0.04mm.

Cheers,
Frank

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Re: Spoked wheels, 1/48
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2021, 04:56:10 AM »
Well done.

I have been planning to have a try at making some myself.  I was thinking of starting big with 1/32 and work my way down to 1/72 but your success has me now thinking of starting with 1/48.

There are a number of good tutorials on making wire spoked wheels on the papermodels.com web site.  I will make a post in the other 1/32 spoked wheel thread as well.

http://www.papermodelers.com/forum/416736-post10.html

I have looked elsewhere on the web for these articles to no avail and you have to be a member at papermodels.com to download them.  I have the pdf's if anyone is interested.

cheers, Graham

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Re: Spoked wheels, 1/48
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2021, 06:41:20 AM »
This is a link to a tutorial on making spoked wheels by Alan Grayer:

http://www.sampsonorchestra.net/paper/Motorcycles/Downloads/Wheels/index.htm

It is one of the tutorials on papermodels.com and even though Alan's focus is on a motorcycle wheel the techniques are similar, just the differ somewhat.

cheers, Graham

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Re: Spoked wheels, 1/48
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2021, 07:00:23 PM »
Ahh, but have you got the lacing pattern right?

Seriously, that's a lovely piece of work, I must have another try at doing that

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Re: Spoked wheels, 1/48
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2021, 10:02:48 PM »
Now you are Just showing off  ;D Seriously, that is amazing Frank! 
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Re: Spoked wheels, 1/48
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2021, 12:34:56 PM »
That is going to look good on anything they are attached to.  Looks like the rims are cleaned up sufficiently for this scale.
So, what are these going on???  ???

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Re: Spoked wheels, 1/48
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2021, 03:13:53 PM »
😮😮😮!

Beautiful!
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Re: Spoked wheels, 1/48
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2021, 03:53:52 PM »
That looks fantastic.  You now have me wondering if I can do it too.
Do you run each spoke from one side of the wheel to the other, or loop it back on itself in a U-shape?

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Re: Spoked wheels, 1/48
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2021, 10:59:08 PM »
Thank you my friends!

That is going to look good on anything they are attached to.  Looks like the rims are cleaned up sufficiently for this scale.
I should only glue from outside, then it is clean. Filed the rims inside a bit so that CA has more grip on the alu.

So, what are these going on???  ???
A little bit of patience please. :D


You now have me wondering if I can do it too.
If one can do it in 1/144 then it is you!

Do you run each spoke from one side of the wheel to the other, or loop it back on itself in a U-shape?
There was some discussion the the spokes wheel thread started by Des. See for tutorial there.
I followed more the way decriped by Kent, here you can see the order of the one thread better:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=10175.msg199525#msg199525

Cheers,
Frank

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Re: Spoked wheels, 1/48
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2021, 04:10:56 AM »
As usual Frank you are demonstrating excellent scratch building skills. I have tried this before but had no luck because I managed to get the order of the nails wrong. I must try again because this is a very useful and important technique.

A first class pair of wheels.

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Re: Spoked wheels, 1/48
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2021, 06:57:58 PM »
Magnificent work, I must try this one day.

Cheers!

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Re: Spoked wheels, 1/48
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2021, 09:18:58 PM »
I can't stop thinking about this  ;D
Out of curiosity, has anyone ever wandered over to a real aircraft and measured the diameter of the wire used for the spokes?  I find that and the actual diameter of rigging wires are always a bit of a mystery.

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Re: Spoked wheels, 1/48
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2021, 09:26:19 PM »
Great results, Frank!
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