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Re: Eduard 1/48 Fokker D.VIII - Polish markings
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2021, 02:02:00 AM »
This is looking great Fredrik! The cockpit is very beautifully done, some neat modelling for sure! Those Polish marking are special! Regards, Marc.

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Re: Eduard 1/48 Fokker D.VIII - Polish markings
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2021, 05:48:00 AM »
Thanks for the support PrzemoL, fredjocko and Monty!

For those of you itching to have a go at the toothbrush idea, please remember that the toothbrush isn't a precision tool and that the first problem is to attach things to the dead centre of the head in order to avoid an oscillating effect. But, if any of you come up with new ideas of how to adapt the toothbrush into a modelling tool, please show your ideas!

I've been reading a little about the theories surrounding the streaked wings on the E.V/D.VIII, and my understanding is that it isn't really streaking like that on a Fokker Dr.I. This is at least partly due to the plywood wings of the E.V/D.VIII. At least some people mention that the colours are stains and that they probably didn't produce a solid colour after application. Therefore I thought I'd apply woodgrain decals I had lying around and then spray that with thin transparent layers of paint and then finally add some streaking using oils.

As an experiment I wanted to see if the woodgrain could be applied on top of the thin layer of paint or if it had to go on first, i.e. the normal way. It turned out that it had to be the normal way.



So I painted the entire wing with Gunze Radome and then I've been applying bits of decal. The top is done, the underside still to go. It'll be interesting to see how this turns out in the end.



/Fredrik

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Re: Eduard 1/48 Fokker D.VIII - Polish markings
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2021, 05:51:54 AM »
Looks ambitious Fredrik!

Looking forward to your progress on this.

Guy
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Re: Eduard 1/48 Fokker D.VIII - Polish markings
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2021, 06:38:32 AM »
The wing looks like newly created by Craftlab these days!
« Last Edit: January 20, 2021, 07:19:11 AM by Bughunter »

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Re: Eduard 1/48 Fokker D.VIII - Polish markings
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2021, 06:57:42 AM »
That should make a great base for the streaks Fredrik!
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Re: Eduard 1/48 Fokker D.VIII - Polish markings
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2021, 07:05:48 AM »
Thanks Guy and Rick! Colours applied below...

The wing looks like newly created by Craftlab these days!


Frank; That could be me laying down plywood... except that one is too young and the other one's got too little hair (both on top and around the cheeks and chin). Fascinating picture though. I know plywood is thin, but I didn't really think it to be so flexible.

So, this is my take on the wing and it's colours. In the end I didn't go for Frank's idea about colours (take a look at his splendid Fokker E.V build to learn more about that), but for the common idea of green and brown on top and blue and pink (blueberry blue) on the bottom side. It went ok, but then I decided that the blue wasn't right and while removing it I accidentally added a nice fingerprint on the finished top-side.


And... those decals are really delicate... so I also removed a little more than I wanted on the underside.  :(


Anyway... the large fingerprint on the top will be hidden under the national markings and the other things I could hide prety well using paint. So this is the wing as it is now...



A close up of the topside... I think I like it. And the raster visible in the picture isn't visible in reality, or at least not with my eyes.


Next up, masking and painting the national markings and then assembly.
/Fredrik

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Re: Eduard 1/48 Fokker D.VIII - Polish markings
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2021, 07:19:03 AM »
Fredrik,

Beautiful outcome on the wing , very impressive . Every build of my will have a hidden finger print and at least one of Sieben's hairs in the finish .

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Re: Eduard 1/48 Fokker D.VIII - Polish markings
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2021, 05:28:37 PM »
That’s fabulous Fredrik!

My models always have a big fingerprint somewhere - just not always hidden!

Guy
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Re: Eduard 1/48 Fokker D.VIII - Polish markings
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2021, 07:15:02 PM »
I think the colors look great!

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Re: Eduard 1/48 Fokker D.VIII - Polish markings
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2021, 12:56:21 AM »
Your colors look great and the simulated staining is beautifully applied!
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Re: Eduard 1/48 Fokker D.VIII - Polish markings
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2021, 12:57:37 AM »
I really like the muted effect of the wing colours, Frederik, some inspiration when I try this build...

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Re: Eduard 1/48 Fokker D.VIII - Polish markings
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2021, 07:42:00 PM »
Thanks you Alexis and Guy for the support and for sharing your innermost secrets of hidden fingerprints! Thanks RAGIII, Willem and Monty for the thumbs up over the colours!

I must say that I'm quite pleased myself when it comes to the wing and the colours. The wing is probably the best thing with this build as the tale of small disasters continues.

You might know that I like to mask and paint as much as possible on my builds. Sometimes, though, you should realise that masking isn't the best option. This is especially true when you have to mask over decals and especially if those decals covers very large areas like the lozenge and plywood decals on this build. I have already managed to lift parts of the lozenge when I masked the fuselage markings.

I have come to the conclusion that it doesn't help spraying these kinds of decals with clear coats. The problem lies beneath. So with the plywood decals I got some new decal solution marked "Very strong". This seemed to work... almost...


Ok, one other problem with masking over decals is the tack of the masking tape. Obviously my normal masking material is a little bit too tacky, even if I de-tack it. And Tamiya tape did the above... so the next step was to resort to Tesa tape - the pink variant. That actually worked and I was able to cut masks using the machine as well. A problem is that you will have joints if you need a larger area of masking tape.


Another little mishap waiting to happen. Masked and ready for white paint. Worked wonders, but then I realised that I had placed the mask to far forward and the fairly symmetrical marking was now not so symmetrical. This led to a series of repaints and therefore also paint build-up along the edges. Annoying, but I really didn't want to strip the whole wing of its paint.


In the end, after some work on the paint ridges, it turned out quite well anyway.


/Fredrik

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Re: Eduard 1/48 Fokker D.VIII - Polish markings
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2021, 11:22:14 PM »
The sprayed Markings make a huge difference! Now your DVIII is quite colorful! I Love the way this one looks.
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Re: Eduard 1/48 Fokker D.VIII - Polish markings
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2021, 01:50:06 AM »
This is looking fantastic, Fredrik.  I really like the look of the wings.
I vaguely remember looking at Achim Engels website where he stained the wings of a D.VIII he was building.  It didn't look too pretty, but he said it was done like that.

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Re: Eduard 1/48 Fokker D.VIII - Polish markings
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2021, 09:09:27 PM »
Decals and tape are a real challenge, I know. I have to look for the pink tape because that seems to work.