Author Topic: Roden seeks Forum member suggestions for new WW1 kit colour schemes (Read 12221 times)

drdave · « **Reply #15 on:** September 19, 2020, 09:41:12 PM »

Some amazing Russian strutter schemes in the Russian Aviation Colours Volume and French Ones were really colourful over CDL.

RAGIII · « **Reply #16 on:** September 19, 2020, 10:54:36 PM »

Here are two Strutters I would love to see. Nothing too fancy but a great Squadron with lots of tradition over the years

and Three SPAD's, two from the Storks:

Joseph Marie Xavier De Sevin SPA 26

Albert Duellin SPA 73

Harold Hartney 27th Aero Sq.

RAGIII

PS: one more Stork:

Benjamin Bozon-Verduraz SPA 3

James · « **Reply #17 on:** September 19, 2020, 11:38:38 PM »

I would love to see both the SPAD XIII and the Strutter in Belgian markings. The Belgian Air Service gets no love.

http://www.belgian-wings.be/Webpages/Navigator/Photos/MilltaryPics/ww1_precurseurs/Sopwith%20Strutter/Sopwith%20Strutter%20Frontpage.html

James

macsporran · « **Reply #18 on:** September 19, 2020, 11:53:57 PM »

Surely have to do Collishaw's 9407 from the Oberndorf raid?
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Berman · « **Reply #19 on:** September 20, 2020, 12:00:25 AM »

There was an experimental Spad XIII with rocket tubes instead of Le Prierur rockets. Maybe Roden can includes these tubes and sighting mechanism or someone can produce aftermarket items for the 1/32 Roden kit and 1/48 Eduard kit. You can see photos of the rocket tube equipped Spad on Aerodrome Forum in the aircraft section "La Prieur Rockets on Spad". Photos of three types of rockets.

RAGIII · « **Reply #20 on:** September 20, 2020, 12:26:13 AM »

One More comment on the SPAD Markings. There is a reason that Most if not All Model Companies have done Rickenbacker, Guynemer, Fonck, Baracca, Luke, etc. Aces Aircraft that are well known tend to sell. Even more so to the Non WW1 enthusiast as they are recognizable and many know the Name and Story. JMHO,
RAGIII

RAGIII · « **Reply #21 on:** September 20, 2020, 12:36:28 AM »

Quote from: jeroen_R90S on September 19, 2020, 07:32:02 PM

Some very nice suggestion, and a great opportunity!

Regarding their quality, in my experience, the later gloss ones don't shatter and tear as easily as the older (flat) ones and with some help of a good glosscoat before and after can be made to work -but indeed, Fantasy Printshop or Cartograf they are not.
What bothers me the most is the registration of colour, as I commented in the other Roden thread the registration on some items is can be rather badly off. Decals requiring some careful handling I can live with (but, still, would rather not!), but registration issues are almost impossible to correct. Perhaps we can help by suggesting schemes with less colours on top of each other, and Roden could help by separating more complex markings (colour-wise), so we modellers need to lay them on top of each other? I'd rather place the separate red, blue, white or green dot in a roundel myself, then to have to fix one that is printed off-center.

Another suggestion: print the rudder texts separate from a rudder stripe decal, as more than a few people will be painting the stripes.

Getting back on track, my suggestion would be the Allied ace of Aces.
His early S.XIII in particular, with the clover:

I agree about the decals but if things are still the same Roden is Required to use a Source from their country? So simple is prbably best as you say. I do Like the Unusual Fonck scheme! A good choice for the early version, along with Mine

RAGIII

RAGIII · « **Reply #22 on:** September 20, 2020, 12:58:18 AM »

This Avro 504 caught My eye: Unusual scheme

RAGIII

kkarlsen · « **Reply #23 on:** September 20, 2020, 01:36:38 AM »

Sopwith 11/2 Strutter:

French Sopwith 1A2 #1056 in the markings of Escadrille 36

For the SPAD XIII, I think we are missing the 93rd Aero Squadron?

The iconic 'Indian Head'

rhwinter · « **Reply #24 on:** September 20, 2020, 02:27:50 AM »

1 1/2 Strutter „Ariel“ with which Capt. Beauchamp raided Essen and Munich in 1916!!!

the great waldo · « **Reply #25 on:** September 20, 2020, 02:57:28 AM »

I'll second a polish spad and any other ww1 planes with Polish national colours

Cheers
Andrew

smperry · « **Reply #26 on:** September 20, 2020, 03:21:28 AM »

I have to amend my suggestion to "All of the above" :-)
That said I hope the AM decal makers are paying attention.
As Rick pointed out "I agree about the decals but if things are still the same Roden is Required to use a Source from their country? "
If Roden is stuck with a less than stellar decal source. I sure hope the AM guys read this thread carefully.
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jeroen_R90S · « **Reply #27 on:** September 20, 2020, 03:29:33 AM »

I don't really know the answer to that question, but ICM (also from Ukraine) used to have decals very similar to Roden's earlier ones, flat and very brittle and transparant. Their newer ones are much improved, so it could apparently be done, though ICM decals don't state where they're made. That said, the newer Roden decals, while not Cartograf either, are also much better than the old ones which either shattered on contact with water, would flake off, or not confirm to any shape other than a flat wing at all.

An early SPAD with decent SPA48, 73, 103 and Baracca decals would be awesome! (but how about a British option?

)

Jeroen

Pup7309 · « **Reply #28 on:** September 20, 2020, 12:27:40 PM »

All great suggestions! I’ve just skimmed pictures as need more time to read. This is great! Thanks Roden

A suggestion, although boring is:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/SPADXIIIguynemerweb.jpg

Edit: Scratch that just noticed it’s a SPAD VIi

Edit: this is a French SPAD XIII however

Pup7309 · « **Reply #29 on:** September 20, 2020, 12:43:48 PM »

Take 2: something different you could have before and after capture

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