Author Topic: (Off-topic) a pair of 1/72 F4U-4 Corsairs "USS Boxer" (Korean War) (done!)  (Read 3016 times)

Offline jeroen_R90S

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These builds were actually stalled, even before they really got underway... A few years ago I purchased some decals from a small company called "Flevo Decals" which were for the entire air wing on USS Boxer on their first Korean War cruise. These includeded Skyraiders in several marks, Panthers, Corsairs in several marks, and a helicopter.

However, several years ago the only F4U-4 Corsairs available were the Italeri and Hobbyboss easy-kit, neither of which are really great, and also of the wrong sub-version. (4x 20mm cannon versus the 6x 0.50cal guns I needed)
So, enter the new Revell F4U-4. For about 7 I got 2, to make both options on the decal sheet:



However, on first inspection, my enthusiasm was kind of tempered...:



The wheels are one-piece and came out of the sprue like that... though they do have nice hollow spokes...
As I tried fitting the separate wingtips and more and more parts came from the sprues looking like the wheels, I wasn't really motivated to keep going... Also because the model isn't really all that accurate as a -4 Corsair, being based on their F4U-1.
After this the model languished in my box-of-someday-I'll-get-to-them, until some time ago I slowly picked them back up.

The -4 had a different floor and seat, so out came the Evergreen:


The fuselage halves on both kits came out like this...:


To cater for the different versions, the cowling is a poorly fitting complex assembly -though it does come with a nice engine and open or closed cowl flaps:


Which, of course, had a gap-tooth look that I filled with Evergreen:


Accuracy-wise, the model has had some critic regarding it's length. I'm not a Corsair expert, but here is one half next to a Tamiya half (Revell light, Tamiya dark plastic), lined up at the wing rear.
Interestingly my Italeri F4U-5 has the same length as the Tamiya, so take your pick...


The dreaded wing tip issue was finally resolved by removing the pin-and-holes on the insides, as well as more sanding, as the tips are thicker than the wing itself.


And I can keep going on, but these models were stalled several times, as e.g. the inner wing pylons are in the wrong place, the carburettor intake on the -4 was moved to the chin intake so the wing inlets were different (I rebuil them with strip and hacking away)


In spite of careful assembly I still needed to pack out one wing half with Evergreen to keep everything aligned:

As you can see I also filled the flaps, as they were depicted as fabric.

So, on and off this is about where I am, despite the careful assembly I stil had to use quite a bit of filler and that's where they both are now -waiting for more sanding and and fettling.
Still a lot to do, the models have no proper weapons (not even pylons for the wings) and miss quite a few details, such as radio altimeter antenna, boarding steps, etc etc...

I would really be pleased to get these two done!

Jeroen
« Last Edit: October 13, 2020, 10:54:03 PM by jeroen_R90S »

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Re: (Off-topic) a pair of 1/72 F4U-4 Corsairs "USS Boxer" (Korean War)
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2020, 07:32:37 AM »
By the way, when I sent the photo of the canopy with the big bubble in it to Revell Germany's Department X a few months ago I got 2 sets (the other one was just as bad) that weren't perfect either, but at least usable.

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Re: (Off-topic) a pair of 1/72 F4U-4 Corsairs "USS Boxer" (Korean War)
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2020, 11:00:41 PM »
Excellent start! I had heard Revelle of Germany had some issues with bubbles in canopies on some kits. I was lucky that MY 1/32nd FW190 did not have the issues!
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Re: (Off-topic) a pair of 1/72 F4U-4 Corsairs "USS Boxer" (Korean War)
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2020, 01:27:50 AM »
I'll be following this one. The owner of the flight school I trained and instructed at in Florida flew these with the same squadron! He has pics of one aircraft with a huge hole in the right wing caused by AA fire. He got it back on the ground safely, just not on the carrier!

Google Crystal Aero Group and take a look through the photos, you'll see quite a few paintings of Corsairs and the carrier on the wall, plus a huge model of 210, his aircraft!

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Re: (Off-topic) a pair of 1/72 F4U-4 Corsairs "USS Boxer" (Korean War)
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2020, 05:14:59 PM »
Thanks!
Nice link there Ian! When I have some more time I'll look them up and see what I can find. If I can I might do "210" then, as the numbers are around and the sheet provides extra serial numbers as well.

Off to more filling and sanding now...

Jeroen

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Re: (Off-topic) a pair of 1/72 F4U-4 Corsairs "USS Boxer" (Korean War)
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2020, 11:42:20 PM »
Some interesting Corsairs, Jeroen - and not really easy! But your improvements make them look quite possible... I admire your attention to detail in 1/72! Regards, Marc

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Re: (Off-topic) a pair of 1/72 F4U-4 Corsairs "USS Boxer" (Korean War)
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2020, 01:54:31 AM »
Thanks, Marc :)
I do take some shortcuts on these, or they'll never be done... I'm just doing the major mods... :)

Some more sanding, after which I shot some primer over de seams. Not too bad, really, so I went outside in the sun and sanded and filled some more:



Now a few more spots to fix, then I can paint the forward fuselages (near the exhausts) blue (underneath where the cowl flaps will be) and attach the noses permanently. Then I'll probably have to rescribe some panel lines and attache the clear parts, which, surprisingly, fit very well!

I'm also a but unsure about the "fabric" areas on the wings, as a primarily WWI modeller I find them rather overdone. Anyone have a suggestion for toning them down? I'm thinking about masking them off, spraying a thick coat of Mr Surfacer 1200 over them, then remove the masking and sand the high points (rib tapes) back to bare plastic, leaving the depressions hopefully less pronounced. If anyone has a better idea I'm all ears! :)
What is frustrating is that the rudder and elevators have a very good looking fabric respresentation, but somehow that was not carried over to the wings, unfortunately...

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Re: (Off-topic) a pair of 1/72 F4U-4 Corsairs "USS Boxer" (Korean War)
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2020, 05:36:50 AM »
Small update; I tried the airbrusing Mr Surfacer on the ribs, but it wasn't thick enough. So I thinned Surfacer 1200 a bit and applied it by brush, which seems to fill the depressions a bit more. It does always shrink quite a bit when it's dry, so I'll see about things tomorrow.

Another thing I missed were the wing bomb racks. The VF-884 aircraft will have 5" rockets on pylons, inner wing pylons, a fuel tank and a bomb from a Tamiya kit.
The VF-791 aircraft will get 2 modified Revell inner wing pylons, 2 drop tanks from an Italeri AU-1 Corsair (the Revell ones are so big, the Tamiya and Italeri tanks could disappear in them) and 8 wing pylons from 2 Hobby Boss F9F Panther kits. Unfortunately I robbed the 100lb bombs from one of them for a Skyraider, so I only have 6. I do have 12 pylons, so that'll do.
However, on the non-cannon armed Corsairs these will not fit on the rocket pylons so when carrying bombs they removed the rocket pylons and fit an adapter rack, to which the bomb rack could be fitted, onto which finally the bomb could go.
(no wonder they changed that on the later cannon-armed Corsairs!)

While it was raining outside and the kids were playing Super Mario on my old Wii console I scratchbuilt and installed the adapters. I used the tape to measure out their locations and make sure that they are starting at the same point.
They'll still need some more details added, but the wings are curved, and I could bend them with the wing now. I made them too tall, so I could sand them down later -that just seemed easier and there are no decals to go underneath them anyway.



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Re: (Off-topic) a pair of 1/72 F4U-4 Corsairs "USS Boxer" (Korean War)
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2020, 12:18:52 AM »
Nice progress! It amazes Me as to how much ordnance those Corsairs could carry!
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Re: (Off-topic) a pair of 1/72 F4U-4 Corsairs "USS Boxer" (Korean War)
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2020, 02:28:46 AM »
Looking better and better Jeroen! I do like the effort and detail you are putting into the underwing racks and stores - this will be a focal point and quite different...
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Re: (Off-topic) a pair of 1/72 F4U-4 Corsairs "USS Boxer" (Korean War)
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2020, 05:17:54 AM »
Thanks! They sure could carry quite a bit of stuff underneath the wings and fuselage, and the Corsair is actually a pretty big aircraft (for a fighter).
I've always liked the F4U-4 and later marks, but there never were good kits of them -unfortunately this one still isn't one as well!
I did the Italeri F4U-5 a few years ago, had to lengthen the nose bit it turned out pretty nice. I did have a lot more fun with that, though, these 2 are becoming a bit tedious (hence they were on the stalled shelf in the first place!)
 
I've worked some more on the wing fabric, but calling it quits on that, as well as the rest of the seamwork. This plastic is so riddled with sink marks, you'd think it's a 1950s kit or so, not one from 2016. Flaps, ailerons, underneath the cowling... almost everywhere you touch it and look closely.
I'm now rescribing all the lost panel lines (there's something I haven't missed building WWI models) then install the clear parts (another thing I haven't missed! :P). Currently doing all that on one model, when that is finshed I'll move on the next one and hopefully can shoot some primer in the forseeable future ;)
Oh, and I also finally installed the noses, so there is progress :)

Jeroen

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Re: (Off-topic) a pair of 1/72 F4U-4 Corsairs "USS Boxer" (Korean War)
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2020, 04:33:41 PM »
You are doing a lot of work on these, I'm missing 1/72nd scale but my aging eyes are no longer suited for short distance performances. Interesting subjects.
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Re: (Off-topic) a pair of 1/72 F4U-4 Corsairs "USS Boxer" (Korean War)
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2020, 04:38:57 AM »
Thanks, Giuseppe! I'm still scribing panel lines, I just finished the first one (the worst fitting one), so hopefully this week I'll finish the scribing of the next one this week. The fit on that one was a bit better, so hopefully less panel lines were obliterated.
I just don't like it when I a kit has gorgeous panel lines in the box, only to have to sand most of them away since the fit is so poor! :)
However, this group build is just the motivation to keep going and get them done. Thanks all!

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Re: (Off-topic) a pair of 1/72 F4U-4 Corsairs "USS Boxer" (Korean War)
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2020, 06:58:18 AM »
Not a lot of spectacular progress, helping the kids (7,5 and 5) with their HobbyBoss Easykits is a lot of fun, but I'm nog making  lot of progress on my own stuff ;)

Yak:

P-39:

Both are brush painted with Revell Aqua, I helped my oldest with the P-39 with the demarcations and masked off the wheel wells, the same for the youngest with the Yak-3, and I also painted the darker camouflage as that is obviously too complex (not to mention the included paint scheme does not match up and the decals have wrong numbers!)

But, I have done something... after several rounds of sanding and filling I rescribed all the lost panel lines (quite lot due to the poor fit, I estimate I had to re-do about 3/4 of them...) I use thin Dymo tape, a pin vise with a bent sewing needle and for ailerons and flaps the Tamiya scriber.


For the VF-884 Corsair I had the Tamiya tanks, pylons and rockets, and for the VF-791 Corsair I had earlier scratched the wing rack adapters. The inner wing fuselage hardpoints were now scratchbuilt from a bit of WnW Fokker D.VII sprue using the Tamiya parts as a template. The spares box coughed up some swaybraces from a HobbyBoss F9F Panther and some old tanks from an Italeri AU-1 / F4U-7 Corsair I built ages ago. After gluing the pylons more towards the middle of the wing (the Revell pylons are too far forward) I drilled some holes and filed some slots for the sway braces:

It was easier and less prone to breaking to glue the sway braces to the Italeri tanks (the original ones on the Italeri tank were in the wrong position), again, using the (grey) Tamiya tank as a template:


I also cleaned up the clear parts, and although they don't have those big bubbles in them, they're really, really distorted...

Annoyingly, this denies a view on my scratchwork in the cockpit, but if posed open it'll heaviliy distort the rear fuselage where it sits :-/ Something to think about.

Jeroen

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Re: (Off-topic) a pair of 1/72 F4U-4 Corsairs "USS Boxer" (Korean War)
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2020, 10:26:11 AM »
Nice progress and attention to the details , yak is looking nice as well  :)


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