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Offline rhallinger

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Re: No 1A de Haviland: 1/32 stripdown Airco DH 1A
« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2020, 11:00:31 PM »
That's lovely work Stephen.  I enjoy your builds and pick up many good ideas to use in my own modeling.  Thanks for sharing this. 

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Re: No 1A de Haviland: 1/32 stripdown Airco DH 1A
« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2020, 12:04:48 AM »
Lovely woodwork! A lot of struts.
To create such parts from plastic sheed and paint it, would be more effort, and your wooden parts looks great.

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Frank

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Re: No 1A de Haviland: 1/32 stripdown Airco DH 1A
« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2020, 06:20:26 AM »
Stephen, this is just beautiful! You have been a very busy man. These parts all look amazingly precise. I am hugely impressed, what a brilliant thread this is!

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Re: No 1A de Haviland: 1/32 stripdown Airco DH 1A
« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2020, 09:41:33 PM »
Evening All,

Thanks Bob, Frank and Richie for your very generous comments - I really appreciate them.

I seem to be breaking new ground for me with this build, among which is two posts in as many days!

I have finally bitten the bullet in that I have soldered the lower wing spars to the nacelle frame. This is one of the most tricky parts of the assembly - if this is not completely accurate then the rest of the model will look distorted and unbalanced. In brief the spars have to be laterally dead centre to the nacelle, the centres of the spars have to be perpendicular to the sides of the nacelle, and the spars have to be at 90 degrees to the fore - aft line. Usually with wings there is a tab or interface between the end of the wing and the side of the nacelle which provide surfaces to join the wings to nacelle/fuselage, but in this case the spars are fixed to four points at the bottom and rear of the nacelle: if any of those are mis-aligned it can have unfortunate, not to write disastrous, consequences.

Before I soldered the spars I had to solder a piece of brass rod to the upper nose - this represents the upper part of the frame in front of the observer - a machine gun mount and a folding split windscreen was fixed to this on the real aircraft:



With this in place I proceeded to mount the spars. I put a rib on the ends of the spars to ensure that they were the correct distance apart and they could not move together or apart. I had carefully measured and marked the centres of both spars and these were lined fore-aft up as accurately as possible. The spars were placed on the bottom of the 4 vertical frames at the rear of the nacelle and the height of tips of the spars to the top of my desk measured - these had to be equidistant or the spars would not be properly aligned with the nacelle and one wing would be higher at the tip than the other. Minor adjustments were made until this was right. The the set-up was jigged so that the centres of the spars were in the centre of the nacelle frame, and that the spars could not move sideways or fore-aft while I wielded the soldering iron:







Having taken several deep breaths I proceed to solder and hoped that nothing moved while I was working. The result:





I have now got to write the instructions for the next stages of construction because I need to prime and paint the metalwork of the nacelle but do not want to prime the spars until later. This is because the ribs slide along the spars and strip the primer from the metal but I have to attach a rib flush to each side of the nacelle and these and the nacelle frame have to be painted first, and have holes for double lift wires drilled into them. I also need to consider carefully how and what to assemble inside the nacelle before I work on the wing ribs - which incidentally also have to have bracing wires. I intend to use my previous experience with the Gunbus, but some things are very different on this model and have not been fully worked out yet. However I am hoping that the next post will be a bit quicker than the current ones.

Thanks for looking.

Stephen.
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Re: No 1A de Haviland: 1/32 stripdown Airco DH 1A
« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2020, 12:16:05 AM »
Holy crap Stephen ! You have been busy providing us an up-date (2)  :) She is coming on very well and I know all to well what it is like having to re-make parts a few times and the frustration it stirs up .


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Re: No 1A de Haviland: 1/32 stripdown Airco DH 1A
« Reply #50 on: May 17, 2020, 09:00:44 PM »
Wow, there's more! Getting it all to line up properly must have been quite a challenge but you look to have managed it very well. This is a very informative thread Stephen, thanks for posting in so much detail.

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Re: No 1A de Haviland: 1/32 stripdown Airco DH 1A
« Reply #51 on: May 17, 2020, 11:57:39 PM »
Impressive engineering there, Stephen.

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Re: No 1A de Haviland: 1/32 stripdown Airco DH 1A
« Reply #52 on: May 18, 2020, 12:13:48 AM »
Wow Stephen! Oil and Fuel tank, struts and the ribs look fantastic! Incredible work. The spars look to be very sturdy something I am sure is important!
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Re: No 1A de Haviland: 1/32 stripdown Airco DH 1A
« Reply #53 on: May 19, 2020, 08:17:44 PM »
loving your craftsmanship Stephen, it's looking great and i look forward to the next installment

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Re: No 1A de Haviland: 1/32 stripdown Airco DH 1A
« Reply #54 on: May 22, 2020, 05:07:55 PM »

I also decided to try ideas about making the tail surfaces. The fin was made from 30 x 40 thou strip and liquid cement, but had to be pinned in place during assembly to ensure the leading edge curved properly:





Stephen.

I have a tip for you to do this easier next time, if you have a nice peace of scrap glass you can put the profile drawing under the glass of the frame. Then pre shape any curves if they are there and you can cement the styrene on to the glass with extra thin then add all the shapes needed and leave to dry for 24 hours. After that you can use a flat blade slide it underneath and you can pop off the part from the glass having it perfectly straight and clean. I have used this on my build for the Caproni.

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Re: No 1A de Haviland: 1/32 stripdown Airco DH 1A
« Reply #55 on: May 22, 2020, 05:25:06 PM »

I also decided to try ideas about making the tail surfaces. The fin was made from 30 x 40 thou strip and liquid cement, but had to be pinned in place during assembly to ensure the leading edge curved properly:





Stephen.

I have a tip for you to do this easier next time, if you have a nice peace of scrap glass you can put the profile drawing under the glass of the frame. Then pre shape any curves if they are there and you can cement the styrene on to the glass with extra thin then add all the shapes needed and leave to dry for 24 hours. After that you can use a flat blade slide it underneath and you can pop off the part from the glass having it perfectly straight and clean. I have used this on my build for the Caproni.

Regards Ron

I'm making a note of that tip for future reference!

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Re: No 1A de Haviland: 1/32 stripdown Airco DH 1A
« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2020, 01:10:00 AM »
It looks like your method worked perfectly. So Many Great ideas in this section of the Forum!
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Re: No 1A de Haviland: 1/32 stripdown Airco DH 1A
« Reply #57 on: May 27, 2020, 07:56:05 AM »
Evening All,

Thanks Rick for your kind comment.

I have had the great good fortune to be advised by another modeller (Dennis) on Britmodeller of the existence of drawings by W. Wyman of the DH 1A which have quite a lot of information about the cockpit details, (and from which the drawings in the DataFile were almost certainly copied). This means that I am now able to reconstruct something closer to reality in the nacelle. This has meant that I have had to make several alterations to the nacelle frame and other changes. At least I have this information at a time when I can use it constructively without having to conduct major surgery or start afresh.

The first change was to remove the vertical bar in the rear nacelle bay and replace it with a bar from plastic strip further to the rear. Before:



after:



The bottom frames were also added from plastic strip, followed by the lower curved section in the front of the observer's cockpit. The vertical bar in the nose was soldered to the two half-rings:







The metalwork was primed, and bulkheads fixed to the rear of the pilot's cockpit and between the pilot and observer cockpits. The remaining cross members of the nacelle frame completed this structure including two engine bearers in the rear. The frame was painted with acrylics and the bulkheads with oils - the latter were coated with Revell clear orange varnish when the oil paints were dry:





At last I should be able to start adding the internal details to the cockpits.

Thanks for looking.

Stephen.

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Re: No 1A de Haviland: 1/32 stripdown Airco DH 1A
« Reply #58 on: May 27, 2020, 09:11:17 AM »
Nice work on the framing Stephen ! Looking forward to those details  :)


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Re: No 1A de Haviland: 1/32 stripdown Airco DH 1A
« Reply #59 on: May 27, 2020, 11:59:27 PM »
This is going to be a beauty! Great craftsmanship Stephen!