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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Des Delatorre International Memorial Group Build => Topic started by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 04, 2019, 12:55:14 AM

Title: COMPLETED - 'Skeletal' Fokker D.VII
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 04, 2019, 12:55:14 AM
Hi all,
The first 'FULL' build of the Fokker D.VII pair is completed.
So now I'm starting the second of the models, the 'skeletal' model.
This will be a full view model with 3D printed parts from 'Shapeways'.

The donor engine is from the 'Wingnut Wings' Fokker D.VII (OAW) built with the following replacement 3D printed components:
Created by Bob Monroe ('Flugzeugwerke') and available from ‘Shapeways’.
Mercedes D.III Oil Pump,
Mercedes D.IIIa Cylinders (hollow),
Mercedes D.IIIa Crankcase,
German Aircraft Magneto,
Mercedes Cylinder clamps,
Gun synchro mechanism,

The aircraft structure will be the 3D printed Fokker D.VII structure.
Created by Richard Andrews ('Aviattic') and available from ‘Shapeways’.

https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace/miniatures/aircraft/?q=1%2F32&s=0#more-products

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/3Dfus.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/upper2.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/upper5.jpg)

There will be other after market parts used.

I thought I'd start with the engine, which had to modify slightly as the internal mountings in the 3D sump and block are too small to accept the kit supplied propeller shaft.
Instead I've made one from brass micro-tube to fit not only the 3D engine but also the 'Proper Plane' Heine propeller.

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/shapeeng.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/shapeeng3.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/shapeeng2.jpg)



Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Terri on April 04, 2019, 09:33:38 AM
Looking forward to your build  :)



Terri
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 05, 2019, 01:25:25 AM
Error 503 on the host server - apparently the ISS pool had to be refreshed 

OK now,



Mike
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 05, 2019, 05:35:05 AM
Hi all,
A few more engine bits prepared.
Spark plugs made from micro-tube and 'RB Motion' aluminium nuts.
'Taurus' manifold locking rings - cut and sanded to fit the 3D printed engine,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/plugs.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/lockrings.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/shapeeng7.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on April 05, 2019, 07:05:58 AM
Outstanding start! Bos' and you are taking them to a high level.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 06, 2019, 02:21:16 AM
Hi all,
A couple of magnetos each made of four separate 3D printed parts.
The ignition leads support tube made from micro-tube.
The magneto drive modified to fit the 3D engine with a brass rod for the magneto drives.
Also the cylinders are mounted onto the engine block,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/mags2.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/supportrail.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/magdrive.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/block.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Terri on April 06, 2019, 09:30:50 AM
Love the details ! :)



Terri
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: gbrivio on April 06, 2019, 06:03:38 PM
I'm really impressed by the details level and looking forward to next steps. This is going to be great!
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 07, 2019, 03:28:36 AM
Hi all,
Starting to assemble the engine accessories now.
So far the spark plugs, ignition lead support tubes, camshaft, air pump, coolant drain tap and cylinder base bridging clamps.
Still plenty more to do,

Mike


(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/bitson1.jpg)


(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/bitson2.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on April 07, 2019, 07:26:04 AM
The engine is coming along great! I am looking forward to the next additions!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: pepperman42 on April 07, 2019, 10:59:08 PM
Nice work!! Could you let us know which paints you used. The metallic is excellent and I know the material used in 3D printing doesn't like anything other than acrylic.

Steve
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 07, 2019, 11:12:24 PM
Hi all,
The paints used are 'Tamiya acrylics', 'Mr. Colour' and 'Alclad' lacquer.
The primers are 'AK Interactive' primer and micro-filler (Grey 758) for general and 'Alclad' Black Base (ALC-305) for their metal finishes.
Metal finish on the engine sump and block is 'Alclad' Duraluminium (ALC-102).

I've not encountered any real problems using different types of paint and primers on these 3D printed parts from 'Shapeways', which are printed using an acrylic material,

Mike
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 08, 2019, 02:34:47 AM
Hi all,
The engine has progressed a bit more now with the addition:
The conical valve springs
Crankcase breather pipe
Magneto drive assembly with two 3D printed magnetos
Two air pump to crankcase pipes
Decompression valve.

Still have to add ignition leads, intake manifold with locking rings, water pump, coolant pipes, oil filler pipes, sump oil sight glass.
There's also a couple of other pipes plus engine controls.

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/shapeeng8.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/shapeeng9.jpg)   
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 08, 2019, 02:58:38 AM
Hi Steve,
The 3D printed parts are from 'Shapeways'
The aircraft structural parts are from designs from Richard Andrews at 'Aviattic' and purchased through 'Shapeways'.
The engine parts are 'Flugzeugwerke' and again through shapeways,

https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace/miniatures/aircraft/?q=1%2F32&s=0#more-products (https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace/miniatures/aircraft/?q=1%2F32&s=0#more-products)

Mike
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 08, 2019, 11:12:14 PM
Hi all,
The 3D printed parts are detailed but as can be seen from the shot below, some are very small.
This is a pair of machine gun synchronization mechanisms, each made up of four separate parts.
The biggest problem is separating them from the base block without damaging them!!

Mike


(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/3dgunsnchro.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on April 08, 2019, 11:39:40 PM
Continuing to look awesome! You are doing an outstanding piece of work with the 3D printed additions!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 11, 2019, 06:07:38 AM
Hi all,
The end is in sight for this engine build.
I've added the decals, ignition leads, gun synchronization mechanism, oil sight glass, generator and drive, cylinder fuel primers, water pump, intake manifold with locking rings, crankcase breather pipe and additional pipes.
All that's left is to add the engine mounted throttle and spark advance (ignition timing) controls - the remainder of the control runs can't be added until the engine is fitted into the fuselage (with the cockpit),

Mike


(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/close1.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/close2.jpg) 
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Juan on April 11, 2019, 06:34:03 AM
Gorgeous looking engine Mike.
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 13, 2019, 03:41:42 AM
Hi all,
I've added the control linkage to the top of the twin carburettors, which consist two levers, connecting rod and cable pulley.
Also the connected levers on the top of the attached 'speed controllers;.
I also created the frame mounted throttle bell-crank and the two cross bars on the forward fuselage frames, which are missing from the kit parts,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/carbtop.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/carblinkage2.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/lever.jpg) 

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/leverbar.jpg) 
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on April 13, 2019, 07:17:06 AM
Amazing detail!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Terri on April 13, 2019, 11:24:17 AM
Love the details , fantastic job Mike  8)




Terri
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 13, 2019, 11:41:15 PM
Hi all,
The final on-engine control linkage has been added, which is the spark advance (ignition timing) for bottom magnetos.
For now the engine will be put to one side so I can make a start on the cockpit,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/distributor.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/advance.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: coyotemagic on April 14, 2019, 04:44:11 AM
Spectacular detail, as always, Mike!  Will you display them as a pair, or separately, at Telford?
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 14, 2019, 05:53:12 AM
Hi Bud,
The idea is a pair display - one stripped, one operational with Fokker having his photograph taken between them.
Telford would be a good show, as long as the finished model is up to scratch of course,

Mike
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 14, 2019, 07:06:54 AM
Hi all,
The kit supplied fuselage side frames married to the 3D printed fuselage.
This required cutting both, as both have a pilots seat frame and only one can be used of course.
As the join between the two could be a weak area, I chose to fit them together using brass micro-tube.
This gives more rigidity to the join of the fuselage and allows the fitting of the pilots seat frame from the kit (part A26),

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/fusframe.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on April 14, 2019, 07:14:41 AM
Have I already said this is awesome? Spectacular detailing all around!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: coyotemagic on April 14, 2019, 07:38:08 AM

Telford would be a good show, as long as the finished model is up to scratch of course,


I've seen your work, Mike.  It will be.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 16, 2019, 07:08:43 AM
Hi all,
Well time to start the fuselage build with controls, pipework etc,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/fusprep.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Terri on April 16, 2019, 10:01:41 AM
Two big thumbs up Mike , beautiful work !




Terri
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on April 16, 2019, 09:43:42 PM
Your structure looks beautiful Mike. I am looking forward to seeing it all come together with the engine and controls etc.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 17, 2019, 06:56:08 AM
Hi all,
Cockpit floor with controls and seat done,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/cockfloor.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/seatdone.jpg) 
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on April 17, 2019, 07:34:10 AM
Seat, belts, and controls are looking excellent!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Terri on April 17, 2019, 09:56:01 AM
Looking good Mike  8)



Terri
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 19, 2019, 03:12:25 AM
Hi all,
I've started on the cockpit pipework.
The pipe connections under the fuel tank.
Behind the instrument panel is the fuel valve manifold (made of micro-tube) connected to the pilot's four selectors. Two pipes out are for connecting the supply from the main and auxiliary fuel tanks.
From the bottom of the manifold will be the two supply pipes to the engines duel carburetor,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/tankpipes.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/brassmanifold2.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/magwires.jpg) 

Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 19, 2019, 07:04:39 AM
Hi all,
Now things start to get complicated,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/fuscomp1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on April 19, 2019, 07:40:16 AM
Absolutely awesome details!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: gbrivio on April 19, 2019, 03:27:31 PM
Impressive build so far, turning into another masterpiece of modelling art.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 19, 2019, 11:44:07 PM
Hi all,
The pilot's seat and support frame now fitted,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/seatframedone.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 20, 2019, 04:52:57 AM
Hi all,
The pilot's hand operated fuel pressure pump pipe is done.
Also the rear gun support frame and the instrument panel are fitted,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/pressuredone.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/panelin.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on April 20, 2019, 05:59:43 AM
Excellent work on adding the wiring and other details! I will use your build to try and add a few things to My upcoming DVII build.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Juan on April 20, 2019, 07:16:19 AM
Outstanding detail, looks like a functioning aircraft.
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Terri on April 20, 2019, 11:00:06 PM
Super job on the details Mike  8)


Terri
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 21, 2019, 02:24:32 AM
Hi all,
A few more things added:
Fuel lines from the underside of the fuel tank to the fuel gallery behind the instrument panel.
Grease line from the pilot's 'screw down' pump to the engine mounted water pump.
Fuel drain line from the underside of the fuel tank to outside of the fuselage bottom.
Oil line from the oil tank (in the fuel tank) to the engine driven oil pump.

Now it's onto the wiring up the magnetos and adding the throttle and spark advance (ignition timing) controls,
 
Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/greasepipe1.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/greasepipe2.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/dump1.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/dump2.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/pipes5.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/pipes6.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/pipes7.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on April 21, 2019, 03:04:57 AM
OK, Now you are just showing off  ;)  Seriously continuing to be a lesson in detailing!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 22, 2019, 02:37:25 AM
Hi all,
Tachometer drive added from gun synchronization mechanism.
The two carburetor fuel feed pipes from the gallery behind the instrument panel,
The two machine gun trigger cables from the control column to the gun synchronization mechanism,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/tachdrive.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/carbpipes2.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/trigcabs.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 22, 2019, 10:49:00 PM
Hi all,
Leads fitted from the magneto starter behind the instrument panel to both engine driven magnetos,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/magleadsdone.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Juan on April 22, 2019, 11:14:26 PM
At his rate of detail, this plane will fly Mike.  Outstanding    8)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 23, 2019, 03:57:14 AM
Hi all,
'Spark Advance' control (Ignition Timing) fitted from cockpit lever to engine magnetos linkage rod.
Made from 0.3 mm brass tube, 0.1 mm Nickel-Silver rod and scratch link.

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/linkage.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/ignrun1.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/ignrun2.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: coyotemagic on April 23, 2019, 04:25:30 AM
Pure modeling magic, Mike!  You're a wizard!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 24, 2019, 03:10:08 AM
Hi all,
Throttle control run added from pilot's throttle lever to the linkage on the dual carburettors.
Scratch made from 0.1 mm Nickel-Silver rod and 0.3 mm brass tube with the pivot lever created from 'spare' photo-etch,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/throtrundone.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 24, 2019, 05:33:27 AM
Hi all,
Control cable for the hand operated throttle added.
Lead wire 0.2 mm diameter, from hand throttle on the control column, down and under the floor, up side frames and across the throttle quadrant.
Then down the other side, under the floor and back up to the hand throttle.

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/handthrotdone.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 25, 2019, 03:59:27 AM
Hi all,
Generator lead and seat connector fitted.
Generators were not standard fit, but were installed to some aircraft to power heated flying suits later in WW1 and if carried, wireless transmitters.
Made from 0.4 mm diameter Nickel-Silver micro-tube and 0.148 mm diameter match line.


Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/genlead.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: PrzemoL on April 25, 2019, 06:23:22 AM
Spectacular show. Top class!
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Terri on April 26, 2019, 09:38:30 AM
Love it !




Terri
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: aliluke on April 26, 2019, 10:44:05 AM
Wow!!! Taking it to the limit in amazing detail.

Very cool.

A
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Manni on April 26, 2019, 03:00:35 PM
Wow all these wires, tubes, cables. Very interesting. This will be a masterpiece out of your hands.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Borsos on April 26, 2019, 06:00:31 PM
Really great! I like all the tubing.
Andreas
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 26, 2019, 11:12:32 PM
Hi all,
Radiator with photo-etch front and rear cooling core and scratch made pilot operated flap (to control engine cooling),

Mike


(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/rad1.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/rad2.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on April 26, 2019, 11:44:00 PM
Continuing to be simply outstanding detailing!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 27, 2019, 10:56:27 PM
Hi all,
Radiator flap control now fitted.
Made from micro-tube (0.4 mm and 0.1 mm diameter), photo-etch pulley and 0.125 mm copper wire for the loop handle,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/flapcontrol.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/flapcontrol2.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Juan on April 28, 2019, 02:42:54 AM
Mike, you are going to make my eyeballs explode with all this beautiful detail.
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on April 28, 2019, 06:41:29 AM
Brilliant work! It must be gratifying to know that all of this work will remain visible  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on April 28, 2019, 08:02:22 AM
Hi all,
Radiator side stays fitted,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/radstay1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 02, 2019, 05:27:26 AM
Hi all,
Rigging has started now.
Difficult to make out some of the rigging as I had to tie back the flight control lines as they were getting in the way.

So far:
Double bracing across the top of the fuel tank.
Double bracing across the underside of the cockpit floor (2 sets).
Double bracing across the frame bays adjacent to the pilot's seat.
Double bracing across the rear of the pilot's seat support frame.
Double bracing across each vertical fuselage frame.

Done with 0.08 mm Mono-filament, 0.4 mm Nickel-Silver tube and 1:48th scale turnbuckles ('Gaspatch').
The same needs to done on each of the frame bays on each side of the fuselage as well as those under and on top of the fuselage.

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/crosswires5.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/crosswires6.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/crosswires7.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/crosswires8.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on May 02, 2019, 06:22:23 AM
Continuing to be an amazing piece of work all around! The bracing wires are awesome!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Terri on May 02, 2019, 10:46:54 AM
Outstanding ! :)




Terri
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 03, 2019, 02:37:17 AM
Hi all,
The top fuselage frames are cross braced.
Onto the sides now, then the make and fit the top decking panel and finally cross brace the bottom fuselage frames,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/crosswires9.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 04, 2019, 09:22:35 AM
Hi all,
The fuselage side frame bays are now cross braced.
Now to make and fit the top decking panel and finally cross brace the bottom fuselage frames,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/crosswires10.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Terri on May 04, 2019, 12:13:14 PM
Fantastic ! :)




Terri
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Juan on May 04, 2019, 12:19:02 PM
Outstanding work (we need a jaw dropping emoticon)   ;)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on May 05, 2019, 12:03:33 AM
Running out of stuff to say  8) Incredible will have to suffice!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 05, 2019, 12:26:11 AM
Hi all,
The fuselage rear decking panel fitted.
Now to cross brace the bottom fuselage frames, then it's onto the tail skid assembly,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/decking1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Borsos on May 06, 2019, 04:57:30 PM
No rigging on a Fokker D. VII, they said. Makes this plane a lot easier to build, they said...  :)
Great pics of a wonderful build!
Andreas
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: kensar on May 06, 2019, 11:26:33 PM
I'm glad you're not going to cover this work up with fuse sides.  8)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: PrzemoL on May 07, 2019, 08:48:01 AM
Spectacular, on and on...
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on May 07, 2019, 09:00:28 PM
The ply decking looks great!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 07, 2019, 10:57:06 PM
Hi all,
The fuselage bottom cross bracing is done, which completes the fuselage bracing.
Also the tail skis has been fitted, with 0.125 mm copper wire suspension springs and 0.2 mm lead wire retention cable.

Now it's onto making the cockpit surround padding and fit the two modified 'Gaspatch' machine guns with their synchronization cables,


Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/crosswires11.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/tailskiddone.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on May 07, 2019, 10:59:17 PM
Awesome work on the skid. Looks like it would work like the real one!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 09, 2019, 06:11:05 AM
Hi all,
I realized that the fuselage rear decking panel was incorrect.
I made it such that the front edge butted up against the rear of the pilot's seat support frame.
In fact the decking seems to have passed over the seat frame, forming the rear cockpit surround, then onto the top of the cockpit side frames.
After several tries and five broken bracing wires, I think it's just about there now.

Now onto making the padded rim to fit around the cockpit rear decking and after that, the machine guns,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/reardeck.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on May 09, 2019, 06:57:59 AM
Much Improved! Sometimes I pass on saying something feeling it would have a negative impact but I did notice that the panel looked a bit short on the front  8) Excellent correction!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 09, 2019, 07:31:40 AM
Hi Rick,
Please do comment if you see an obvious error.
Especially on something complex like this build as it would be tricky to go back to correct if I've gone too far,

Mike
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on May 09, 2019, 07:55:34 AM
Hi Rick,
Please do comment if you see an obvious error.
Especially on something complex like this build as it would be tricky to go back to correct if I've gone too far,

Mike

Will do, but in a PM  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: gbrivio on May 10, 2019, 04:40:31 AM
No rigging on a Fokker D. VII, they said. Makes this plane a lot easier to build, they said...  :)
Great pics of a wonderful build!
Andreas

My thought, exactly... Most amazing build so far.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: AROTH on May 10, 2019, 10:14:46 AM
Your work is completely beyond anything I ever dreamed of. Makes me want to sell all of my 50+ years of WWI aviation stuff and take up bird watching, or needlepoint.     :D
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Juan on May 10, 2019, 11:29:36 AM
Wow, gets better and better.
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 11, 2019, 04:23:28 AM
Hi all,
Both machine guns are now fitted along with their synchronization flexible drives.
These drives are connected between the bottom of the gun breech blocks and the gun synchronization mechanism, fitted to the rear of the engine cam shaft,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/gunsdone1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on May 11, 2019, 04:28:31 AM
More outstanding detail!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Terri on May 11, 2019, 10:33:14 AM
 :) :) :) :) :) :)





Terri
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 14, 2019, 02:57:37 AM
Hi all,
I've added the padding rim around the fuselage decking panel and onto the top of the cockpit side frames.
This was done using 2.0 mm diameter plastic tube which was sanded to form a grip for painting.
Then it was slit along one side and located over the decking and secured in position with thin CA adhesive.
Finally it was primed, painted 'Humbrol' leather (62) and 'Tamiya' Hull Red (XF9), sealed then given a clay wash and finally sealed with 'Alclad' Light Sheen (ALC-311).


Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/padding.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 14, 2019, 06:05:22 AM
Hi all,
Tail unit assembled from the 3D printed parts.
Very fragile once separated from the support frame, so should prove interesting.
The elevator was missing the inboard trailing edge profile, presumably missed during printing process.
Therefore I had to make the profiles using 0.8 mm brass tube.

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/tailframe.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/shortshot.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on May 14, 2019, 06:44:23 AM
Love the padding! I will have to try some of the options like you have used for the leather! Tail assembly looks great and like you say it also looks fragile  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: kensar on May 14, 2019, 09:44:38 PM
 8)

Like Juan said, it just gets better and better.
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 17, 2019, 02:18:07 AM
Hi all,
Well the fuselage is completed, apart from fitting the engine exhaust and the propeller.
The Rudder and Elevator control runs have been connected with the turnbuckles under the pilot's seat.
Also the tail plane to fin bracing cable.
The entire fuselage has been weathered and sealed.

So now it's on to the lower wing, followed by scratch building the skeletal undercarriage assembly, which unfortunately is not available as a 3D printed part.


Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/fusecomp1.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/fusecomp2.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/fusecomp3.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/fusecomp4.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/fusecomp5.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/fusecomp6.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/fusecomp7.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on May 17, 2019, 02:55:06 AM
Stunning work!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: pepperman42 on May 17, 2019, 11:15:20 PM
Amazing!!

Steve
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 18, 2019, 02:57:49 AM
Hi all,
The 3D printed lower wing is detailed enough, but as normal there are details that can be added to make it more authentic.
Early production Fokker D.VII aircraft were fitted with bracing tapes that were routed across the wings between the front and rear wing spars and between the rear wing spar and the wing trailing edge.
These tapes were routed in a diagonal ‘zig-zag’ form, up and over each wing rib.
However later production aircraft were fitted with 10 mm square strip wood as replacements for the earlier tapes.
The 3D printed wings represent the later, strip wood version.
Although these strip wood struts can be left to make the model build easier, I've chosen to remove the wings strip wood struts and represent the earlier bracing tapes.

In addition, the two wing halves, when test joined at the centre section spars, showed a higher than expected dihedral angle.
Therefore I had to shave away material from the spars to achieve the correct angle.

Finally the leading edges of both wings were fitted with 'saw tooth' plywood fairings, which will need to be scratch made, as will the trailing edge support wire for attaching the linen covering.

So far:
Spars adjusted.
Strip wood bracing removed.
Diagonal bracing struts added to inner and outer trailing edges.
Holes drilled at the wing strut attachment points for attaching the wings internal cross bracing cables.
Wings scrapped clean of wax support material, assembled and primed.

The upper wing, which is in three sections, will require similar treatment.

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/lowerribbrace.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/lowwing.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Terri on May 18, 2019, 11:00:56 AM
Love it !




Terri
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Juan on May 18, 2019, 11:16:39 AM
Going the extra mile does not begin to credit what you are doing.
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Whiteknuckles on May 18, 2019, 12:13:43 PM
Absolutely wonderful work :)

Andrew
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on May 18, 2019, 09:42:25 PM
Continuing to be a lesson in adding detail! Beautiful.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 19, 2019, 02:03:48 AM
Hi all,
The leading edge plywood 'saw tooth' fairing is tricky to do, but can be done.
Structure drawing of 1/72 scale resized by 160%, then printed, cut out and used as a template on 0.2 mm thick plastic card.
The fairing is test fitted and adjusted where necessary then secured in position using thin CA adhesive.
Starting on the top of the front wing spar then once set, rolling the wing over the fairing and applying adhesive at the same time.,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/leadedgedone.jpg)   
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on May 19, 2019, 08:03:27 AM
Have I said Brilliant Modeling Yet?
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 21, 2019, 07:15:29 AM
Hi all,
The lower wing is nearing completion.
It's been painted with 'Tamiya' base coat then oils for wood effect.
Internal wing bracing with turnbuckles added.
Leading edge 'transportation 'bump stops' added.
Internal double bracing 'zig-zag' tapes installed (instead of the original 'strip wood' struts, which were removed).

I still have the trailing edge wire to install (for attaching the wings linen covering).
Also the final weathering will need to be added


Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/wingtaped.jpg)   
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on May 21, 2019, 07:28:55 AM
Gorgeous!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 22, 2019, 02:56:37 AM
Hi all,
The lower wing is finished now, with the trailing edge wire fitted and overall 'dumbing down' carried out using 'Alclad' Light Sheen lacquer mixed with 'Tamiya' Smoke (X19). 

So now it's on to scratch making the undercarriage fairing and axle assembly (not available as a 3D printed part),

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/lowwingdone1.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/lowwingdone2.jpg)   

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/lowwingdone3.jpg)     
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on May 22, 2019, 09:43:26 PM
The wings are gorgeous!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: FokkerFodder on May 23, 2019, 06:36:24 PM
One word.... incredible!
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 25, 2019, 05:39:14 AM
Hi all,
The undercarriage fairing assembly is basically built.
Made from 0.8 mm and 1.0 mm thick plastic card, 1.2mm, 0.8 mm and 0.5 mm brass rod and tube.
The wheels are hand made by 'Steve Robson' out in Australia.

It's still to be finalized and painted etc.
I'll also need to make the struts as the kit supplied items fit into the kit fairing and therefore are not long enough to attach to the angled support blocks on each side of the exposed axle box ends,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/axle5.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 27, 2019, 11:11:53 PM
Hi all,
The basic undercarriage assembly is done now.
I still have the undercarriage struts to make and attach before I can fit the assembly to the fuselage frames,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/UCdone.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on May 28, 2019, 04:10:41 AM
The axle and axle wing formers look as awesome as the rest! The wheels really set the assembly off!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 29, 2019, 05:02:09 AM
Hi all,
The lower wing is now installed, with some slight adjustments to clear the fuselage side frames and to give adequate access to the single wing strut mounting location.
Next is the undercarriage, once I've completed making the undercarriage struts from brass tube and rod,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/lowwingfit2.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Juan on May 29, 2019, 05:30:31 AM
Gorgeous work to date, I am humbled by your artistry.
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on May 29, 2019, 06:13:40 AM
Continuing to be a Stunning build!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: kensar on May 29, 2019, 06:25:56 AM
Awesome! Awesome! Awesome!

One question - how are the wheel spokes fixed to the hubs?  Do they wrap around the end of the hub, or are there holes for the spokes to fit into?
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 29, 2019, 07:11:58 AM
Awesome! Awesome! Awesome!

One question - how are the wheel spokes fixed to the hubs?  Do they wrap around the end of the hub, or are there holes for the spokes to fit into?

The wheels are hand made by 'Steve Robson' in Australia and are delivered complete.
Quite how he manages to build these is a mystery but I think he drills holes into the wheel rim and both ends of the hub, then assembles the spokes one by one,

Mike
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 29, 2019, 07:31:56 AM
Hi all,
Front undercarriage struts made using 1.4 mm brass tube and 0.5 mm brass rod, soft soldered for strength,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/UCfrontstruts.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Manni on May 29, 2019, 03:31:02 PM
This is just amazing! This looks so unbelivalbe realistic and clean. This is a real gem.
Bye, Manni
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on May 29, 2019, 11:00:04 PM
Terrific work on the Brass struts!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 30, 2019, 12:30:44 AM
Hi all,
Just a lick of paint on the struts and cross bracing to attach and the undercarriage is done,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/UCrearstruts.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on May 30, 2019, 08:19:17 AM
Hi all,
 I'm calling the undercarriage assembly done.
The wheels are not permanently fitted yet - they'll be the last thing to be fitted.

So now onto the upper wing and struts etc,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/UCdone2.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on May 30, 2019, 09:06:19 AM
I can't say enough about just how awesome this looks!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Terri on June 01, 2019, 10:18:46 PM
I'm hanging up my tool belt and walking away from bench and getting out of the hobby , this is killer !




Terri
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on June 01, 2019, 11:44:14 PM
Hi all,
The upper wing has been assembled and the plywood 'saw tooth' fairing added,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/upper6.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on June 02, 2019, 02:44:24 AM
Great start on the upper wing.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on June 03, 2019, 06:19:14 AM
Ok - I need help if there is anyone out there who can explain how the interaction of the aileron control cables works, as I can't find any details of this.

This I know:
1. At the forward end of the control column torque tube is a staggered double bell-crank. Twin aileron control cables are attached to each end of the bell-crank and are routed diagonally across each other to exit through the top of the opposite fuselage side.
2. The twin cables enter the underside of the upper wing, close to the inboard wing strut mounting.
3. The cables are routed around twin pulleys fitted to the rear face of the wing front spar.
4. The cables are the routed outboard to another pair of pulleys, fitted on the spar opposite the aileron control horns.

My problem is that photographs show what I assume are the left inboard pulleys with the two fuselage cables routed around them. One cable is routed outboard I assume to the aileron pulleys. The other is routed in the opposite direction across the wing centre section to presumably the opposite aileron.
However there appears to be a third cable routed horizontally across the top of the twin pulleys and running through a tubular cable housing.
This would seem to suggest that the third cable is interconnected between the two ailerons in some way?

So basically, how were the aileron cables routed across the upper wing and to and from the cockpit bell-crank???
I'm close to completing the skeletal Fokker D.VII and would want to fudge these cables using guesswork,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/aileron2.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/ailpulley1.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/ailpulley2.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/pulleys.jpg)

Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on June 03, 2019, 07:23:03 AM
I don't have your answer but perhaps Bo from Fugzeugwerke can help. He was making a DVII that had the controls rigged to operate by moving the stick. Maybe give him a PM.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: petrov27 on June 03, 2019, 10:07:42 AM
There is a small diagram on the below, though it is for the DrI, but I think you can just make out the paths of the control cables (wish it were a better scan....)


(https://irp-cdn.multiscreensite.com/564b3bc8/dms3rep/multi/background/Fokker_Dr.I_constructietekening.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on June 03, 2019, 07:13:01 PM
Thanks guys, particularly 'petrov27' - that diagram was just what I needed.
I hadn't thought of checking other Fokker aircraft drawings!!
The only photos I had were of the left wing pulleys so I assumed the right side pulleys were the same - wrong.
The control cables for the aileron top control horns cross in the wing centre section - I assumed they didn't which is why I couldn't figure out their interaction.
It all makes sense now.

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/ailerondiag.jpg)

Also Willem 'Makhpiyaluta' at the 'Aerodrome' forum posted this image, which describes the cable routing.

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/ailpulley5.jpg)

I can move on to finish the build now,

Mike 
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on June 05, 2019, 07:06:13 AM
Hi all,
The upper wing is nearly there.
I just have the ailerons and their control cables and associated pulleys to add, plus the trailing edge wire.
After that it'll be fitting the wing and struts, engine exhaust and propeller, wheels and aileron control cables connected - then that'll be it,


Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/upper8.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Juan on June 05, 2019, 08:56:25 AM
Mike, with your details, this Fokker would be airworthy if skinned.
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: pepperman42 on June 05, 2019, 06:12:53 PM
Amazing work!!

Steve
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: IvotB on June 05, 2019, 06:13:20 PM
Mike, this second Fokker is really an impressive project so far. I would say almost finished, but I can't wait to see what's next.

regards,
Ivo
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on June 05, 2019, 10:45:02 PM
Beautiful results on the wing! I am looking forward to the next step!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on June 06, 2019, 06:25:33 AM
Hi all,
The aileron outer control cable pulleys are fitted.
Made from photo-etch set intended for the Sopwith Triplane and modified to suit the Fokker D.VII pulleys.
The control lines are loosely routed for now.

Next are the inboard pulleys,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/outerpulleys.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on June 06, 2019, 08:11:22 AM
This really could be mistaken for the real thing!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Kalt on June 06, 2019, 08:20:32 AM
Amazing!  just Amazing
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on June 07, 2019, 10:31:06 PM
Hi all,
The inner aileron pulleys and the inner wing control lines are done as well as the trailing edge support wire.
Once I've added the control cable turnbuckles it'll be time to tackle fitting of the upper wing,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/innerpulleysdone.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/uppertrailwire.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on June 08, 2019, 02:54:28 AM
Hi all,
The aileron control cable exterior turnbuckles now fitted.
Next step - fit the upper wing,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/inboardturnbuckles.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Juan on June 08, 2019, 03:18:16 AM
Mike, your eye candy is giving me cavities......  just wonderful.   ;D
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on June 08, 2019, 04:46:25 AM
Amazing work!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on June 09, 2019, 10:00:05 PM
Hi all,
Nearly there!!
Upper wing and wing support struts fitted.
Wheels fitted.
Twin aileron control cables (upper wing to cockpit) connected with turnbuckles.
Propeller finished.

I just need to fit the exhaust and propeller and that's it.

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/wingfuseailcomp.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/wheelscomp.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/propcomp.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on June 09, 2019, 10:06:39 PM
The wing looks terrific in place. Rigging is fantastic and the prop is also well done!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on June 10, 2019, 05:27:52 AM
Hi all,
Last bits fitted.
Propeller, exhaust, pilot's foot step and the two rear fuselage rear lift handles.

Just the display case and base to complete this build, but that shouldn't take long to sort out,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/propcomp2.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/exhaustcomp.jpg)

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/steps.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: gbrivio on June 10, 2019, 05:43:09 AM
I've been missing a few updates and she's completed. Beautiful.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: RAGIII on June 10, 2019, 07:03:45 AM
I have really enjoyed following this Exquisite build! A True tribute to Des as I am sure He would have appreciated the detail and especially the rigging involved!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: kensar on June 10, 2019, 07:14:45 AM
A magnificent build, Mike.  I think builds like this fulfills one of Des's goals for this website by being educational and informative.

Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: pepperman42 on June 10, 2019, 12:30:35 PM
Great update!!

Steve
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on June 11, 2019, 02:01:19 AM
Hi all,
I thought you might like to see my 18th 1:32 scale build - the German Fokker D.VII fighter.  The major airframe components are 3D printed from the ‘Shapeways’ web site. The airframe structural components were designed by ‘Aviattic’ and engine parts by ‘Bob Monroe’. Other components for the model were ‘donated’ from the ‘Wingnut Wing’ kit of the Fokker D.VII (OAW built) (Kit No: 32030).

This model, with associated figures, will eventually be part of a dual Fokker D.VII display. 

I know I don't often reply to your generous comments, but rest assured they are very much appreciated, 

Mike 



The basic list of modifications and additions to the model are as follows: 

‘Taurus Models’ engine intake manifold lock rings (3211),
‘Taurus Models’ engine fuel priming cups (3219),
‘Taurus Models’ engine complete timing gear - conical valve springs (3209),
‘Eduard’ Swordfish hinge and panel set (32204),
‘RB Productions’ British wire terminals (RB-P32013).
Spark plugs.
Cylinder fuel primers.
Valve springs.
Ignition lead support tubes.
Gun synchronization mechanism.
Ignition leads.
Oil reservoir sight glass.
Hydraulic pipes.
Intake manifold lock rings.
Sump oil tube.
‘Flugzeugwerke’ (Bob Monroe) (printed by ‘Shapeways’)
            Mercedes D.III Oil Pump,
            Mercedes D.IIIa Cylinders (hollow),
            Mercedes D.IIIa Crankcase and engine block,
            German Aircraft Magnetos,
            Mercedes Cylinder clamps,
‘Aviattic’ (printed by ‘Shapeways’)
            Rear fuselage frame.
            Tail plane.
            Rudder.
            Elevator.
            Ailerons.
            Fin.
            Upper wing (3 sections) (scratch bracing tapes, leading edge ‘saw tooth’ fairings).
            Lower wing (two sections) (scratch bracing tapes, leading edge ‘saw tooth’ fairings).
            Tail skid (with scratch made suspension cables and springs).
Wings leading edge ‘stacking pads’.
Rear fuselage decking panel.
Cockpit padded surround.
‘Aviattic’ Fokker seat.
Undercarriage assembly – scratch built including brass struts.
Fuel, oil and coolant pipes,
Engine controls – throttle, magneto, alternator, spark advance, hand throttle.
‘REXx exhaust.
‘Proper Plane’ Heine propeller (wood).
‘GasPatch’ Spandau machine guns.
Gun installations.
Cockpit control cables – rudder, ailerons and elevator.
Cockpit cross bracing lines.
Gun firing cables.
Gun synchronization mechanism.
Engine controls.
Instrument leads/cables.
Fuel pressure pump pipe.
Seat harness.
Rigging points.
External flight control lines.
‘Steve Robson’ handmade wheels and tyres.
Photo-etch radiator.
Radiator shutter and control cable/pulley.
All internal cross bracing cables.
Aileron control cables with associated pulleys.


As usual I've created a downloadable build log in Adobe PDF format, for those who might want to refer to it for reference or build details. It contains full step by step descriptions of the model build, its modifications/changes and is also supported with illustrations and photographs. If viewed in Adobe Reader, each build log has book marked chapters/headings for easier navigation through the log.

My model website has the gallery page, so to view any model, go to the gallery and select it.  If it has a PDF build log, it will be available to download using the 'PDF' icon on that models photo's page. For any photograph, just click the photo to enlarge or reduce the viewing size.


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Title: Re: Fokker pair 2 - COMPLETED
Post by: RAGIII on June 11, 2019, 08:36:50 PM
I don't really know what to say here. Brilliant Modeling and really great build log will have to do!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2 - COMPLETED
Post by: Borsos on June 11, 2019, 08:47:26 PM
Breathtaking. I can’t stop looking at it.
Andreas
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2 - COMPLETED
Post by: PrzemoL on June 11, 2019, 10:20:26 PM
WOW  :o
Speechless...
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2 - COMPLETED
Post by: Juan on June 12, 2019, 12:00:36 AM
Thank you for the journey of this build.  Truly masterful.
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2 - COMPLETED
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on June 12, 2019, 01:01:45 AM
Thank you all and coming from those I consider masters in they're own ways, praise indeed,

Mike
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2 - COMPLETED
Post by: IvotB on June 12, 2019, 07:09:47 AM
Mike, I guess it is difficult to fully appreciate your extremely detailed model from the pictures. It is an excellent representation of the original taking into account all tiny details. It looks like the original  :)

regards,
Ivo

P.S., as your topic is called a Fokker pair, did you take pictures of those together? Would be nice.
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2 - COMPLETED
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on June 12, 2019, 07:17:54 AM
Hi Ivo,
Yes the intention was always to have the pair, with a figure of Anthony Fokker and a camera man all on one display base.
I working on that now so should be able to post shots of the 'complete' model soon,

Mike
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2 - COMPLETED
Post by: Terri on June 12, 2019, 10:24:58 AM
Mind blowing !!!



Terri
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2 - COMPLETED
Post by: Manni on June 12, 2019, 03:32:45 PM
Mike, this is so overwhelming. There are thousands of details to discover. The eye is wandering around this masterpiece and finds every inch dozends new spectacular things. Just great.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2 - COMPLETED
Post by: Bughunter on June 13, 2019, 05:09:27 AM
Mike, I already build some strip down models in smaller scale, but what you have done in this big scale is most impressive. This model is taken a full advantage of that scale and shows a huge number of details.
You put together a huge impressive list of parts and accessories into a single piece of art!

Thanks for the journey of creating it,
Frank
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2 - COMPLETED
Post by: dr 1 ace on June 13, 2019, 08:05:42 AM
I don't really know what to say here. Brilliant Modeling and really great build log will have to do!
RAGIII


Ditto my Amigo's comments !!!

Ed
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2 - COMPLETED
Post by: pepperman42 on June 17, 2019, 11:10:22 PM
That is museum quality workmanship!!

Steve
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2 - COMPLETED
Post by: Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris on June 26, 2019, 11:41:31 PM
Hi all,
Not a great shot but here's the two models on their bases,

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/DES2/shots/forums/fokkerpair.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2 - COMPLETED
Post by: gbrivio on June 27, 2019, 04:26:04 AM
I join the speechless. The real thing perfctly replicated.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2 - COMPLETED
Post by: lone modeller on June 27, 2019, 04:45:45 AM
Stunning - both of them. What else can I write? Lost for words and superlatives......

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker pair 2 - COMPLETED
Post by: FokkerFodder on June 27, 2019, 06:02:22 AM
All the superlatives have been used! Anyhow I agree with all of them. Cheers  Matt