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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: James on April 05, 2018, 07:22:38 AM
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Let the speculation begin. From an email I received from them today.
Hi,
A small update on what is happening at Wingnut Wings.
Scale Model Expo 21 & 22 April 2018
http://scalemodelswellington.org.nz/expo
https://www.facebook.com/events/565853553787628/
http://scalemodelswellington.org.nz/
Wingnut Wings will be attending Scale Models Expo in Upper Hutt, Wellington, New Zealand. If you are coming to New Zealand's largest scale model show we look forward to seeing you and having a chat over the weekend.
We will have a very limited number of pre-release 32065 Junkers D.1 available exclusively at Scale Models Expo (limit 1x per customer and only while stocks last). 32065 Junkers D.1 will be available on regular release from 24 April.
We also expect to have a very limited number of warehouse finds of sold out models available exclusively at the expo on a strictly first come first served basis (limit 1x each per customer and only while stocks last).
If everything goes according to plan between now and 21 April we should also have something else to announce at the show, so keep your eyes open. If that doesn’t work out then there’s always the Shizuoka Hobby Show in Japan on 10-14 May.
James
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They love the intrigue :-)
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Don't they though; I just posted this on another thread as well. Can't be bad news!
Cheers,
Lance
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They love the intrigue :-)
That they do. Now we are all gonna be going crazy trying to guess, speculate, etc. Should be interesting.
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Almost three weeks to let the modeling imagination roam....... ;D
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I will be at the Model Expo. Love a surprise!
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For me, the significant part of the statement re a new kit is - 21st April!
Les
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New kit or maybe the much hinted special re-releases?
Dang warehouse specials too. But yes April 21st is a bit special
Ray
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For me, the significant part of the statement re a new kit is - 21st April!
Les
That can't just be a coincidence. I'm beginning to sense a three winged Fokker in the near future.
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Apparently the Scale Model Expo is always held around this time of the year so we shouldn't get too wound up by the April 21 date.
It does sound like a new kit announcement but the subject is anyone's guess. I'll add a vote for a Sopwith Comic night fighter.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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I'll add a vote for a Sopwith Comic night fighter.
That would really be a good thing, but I suspect we'll finally see a BE.2 ;)
Cheers,
Lance
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I'm going to be really fussy about WNW's next release.
Unless it's a 1/32 aeroplane with at least one propellor on it, I'm not interested.
A man has his limits.
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LOL. Very well said Dekenba.
I agree 100% ;D
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Want: Halberstadt CL.II
Expect: Fokker Dr
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It is going to be a Messerschmitt Bf-109. I am sure.
Borsos
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It is going to be a Messerschmitt Bf-109. I am sure.
Borsos
Andreas has it, it will also feature one, two or three wings ;)
Ray
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Maybe it's a HP O/400. Wing span on 1/32 = 95 cm. Now that would be a big box....
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April 21st can ONLY mean Fok.DR.1
Be still my beating wallet ;D
Von AboutBloodyTime!
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I'm saying a Freierichshafen G.III, my usual guess.
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AGO C.I
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AGO C.I
That would be cool to.
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I'm saying a Freierichshafen G.III, my usual guess.
That would close out the big three bombers
Ray
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I'm saying a Freierichshafen G.III, my usual guess.
That would close out the big three bombers
Ray
That it would. That's why I keep thinking they will eventually release one.
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nay, I going with the Ago C.I, the only German pusher. Just love pusher planes.
But a Hanriot would be nice to.
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nay, I going with the Ago C.I, the only German pusher. Just love pusher planes.
But a Hanriot would be nice to.
Wasnt the Gotha series all pushers?
Ray
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nay, I going with the Ago C.I, the only German pusher. Just love pusher planes.
But a Hanriot would be nice to.
Wasnt the Gotha series all pushers?
Ray
The G.I was a tractor, but that will probably not get done for a while ;) ;)
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The G.I was a tractor, but that will probably not get done for a while ;) ;)
True it was, I for some reason always think of it as the Ursinus, but Gotha actually manufactured it under license and thats how they got into big bombers. I knew that lol thanks for reminding me Juan. ;)
Ray
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I know the Roden Dr. I can be built up into a nice kit, but if WNW released one..... ;D Be still my beating heart is right!
It would make buckets loads of $ for them.
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I know the Roden Dr. I can be built up into a nice kit, but if WNW released one..... ;D Be still my beating heart is right!
It would make buckets loads of $ for them.
It would be good for me too - all those Roden DR.Is being dumped on the market for peanuts
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April 21st can only be a Fokker Dr.1, with one of the color schemes being the Red Baron's.
My best guess.
Tim Pivonka
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That would close out the big three bombers
Ray
Don't forget the big Brit bombers! How about a Handley Page O/400? :)
Eric
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I emailed Richard at WNW, partly to thank him for the Dolphin & Taube (superb mouldings), partly to get an idea of what's up next.
He very kindly replied with an extraordinarily straight bat. He gave very little away.
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He very kindly replied with an extraordinarily straight bat. He gave very little away.
We have trouble with New Zealand cricketers too
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He very kindly replied with an extraordinarily straight bat. He gave very little away.
We have trouble with New Zealand cricketers too
And Kiwi rugby players.
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And Kiwi rugby players.
Lol I think everyone has trouble with them!! ;)
Ray
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I emailed Richard at WNW, partly to thank him for the Dolphin & Taube (superb mouldings), partly to get an idea of what's up next.
He very kindly replied with an extraordinarily straight bat. He gave very little away.
Not to be outdone, I decided to e-mail Peter Jackson, and see if I could get around this veil of secrecy concerning this April 21, announcement. Much to my surprise, Sir Peter responded to me, even though I have never met the man in my life. He said matter-of-factly that the Fokker Dr.1 is the big secret announcement that is coming. Each of the first 300 kits will come with a swatch of the red fabric from the Baron's famous red tri-plane, complete with certificates of authenticity. So everybody preorder fast! Needless to say, these first 300 kits will sell for the astronomical price of $1,000.00 each, American. Everybody get your wallets out.
;) ;D
For the gullible, this is just a fever dream I had.
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I emailed Richard at WNW, partly to thank him for the Dolphin & Taube (superb mouldings), partly to get an idea of what's up next.
He very kindly replied with an extraordinarily straight bat. He gave very little away.
Not to be outdone, I decided to e-mail Peter Jackson, and see if I could get around this veil of secrecy concerning this April 21, announcement. Much to my surprise, Sir Peter responded to me, even though I have never met the man in my life. He said matter-of-factly that the Fokker Dr.1 is the big secret announcement that is coming. Each of the first 300 kits will come with a swatch of the red fabric from the Baron's famous red tri-plane, complete with certificates of authenticity. So everybody preorder fast! Needless to say, these first 300 kits will sell for the astronomical price of $1,000.00 each, American. Everybody get your wallets out.
;) ;D
For the gullible, this is just a fever dream I had.
Only 300? That must leave around 30,000 pieces of Red Baron fabric still in circulation
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Since we had the surprise Dolphin in December, then Junkers in February, and the coming surprise in April. Can we expect surprises every two months this centenary year...
So that means a BE2 in April, Friedrichschafen in June, HP400 in August, Comic camel in October and a 1 1/2 strutter in December ;)
I know I know, a tad greedy eh, Ok so drop the HP400 as I don't have room for the box anyway....
Ray
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I appreciate the humour of the "fevered dreams" regarding Wingnuts' forthcoming announcement, but could we dial back the "I emailed Peter Jackson and he told me..." posts please?
Yes it's amusing but over time such posts stay visible and others read them and assume they are true and suddenly these dreams become fact in the minds of others.
In the meantime while we relish the possible new kit announcement later this month let's not forget the very real release on April 24 of the Junkers D.1.
Dave Wilson
Administrator
Gold Coast
Australia
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In the meantime while we relish the possible new kit announcement later this month let's not forget the very real release on April 24 of the Junkers D.1.
More Humour - the surprise is really the early release of the D1 on the 21st - 3 days early;) Now that would be a pretty neat April fools
Ray
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I emailed Richard at WNW, partly to thank him for the Dolphin & Taube (superb mouldings), partly to get an idea of what's up next.
He very kindly replied with an extraordinarily straight bat. He gave very little away.
Not to be outdone, I decided to e-mail Peter Jackson, and see if I could get around this veil of secrecy concerning this April 21, announcement. Much to my surprise, Sir Peter responded to me, even though I have never met the man in my life. He said matter-of-factly that the Fokker Dr.1 is the big secret announcement that is coming. Each of the first 300 kits will come with a swatch of the red fabric from the Baron's famous red tri-plane, complete with certificates of authenticity. So everybody preorder fast! Needless to say, these first 300 kits will sell for the astronomical price of $1,000.00 each, American. Everybody get your wallets out.
;) ;D
For the gullible, this is just a fever dream I had.
Only 300? That must leave around 30,000 pieces of Red Baron fabric still in circulation
No, actually these are all the swatches that exist: 300. You see, these swatches are rather large, actually... ;D
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Since we had the surprise Dolphin in December, then Junkers in February, and the coming surprise in April. Can we expect surprises every two months this centenary year...
So that means a BE2 in April, Friedrichschafen in June, HP400 in August, Comic camel in October and a 1 1/2 strutter in December ;)
I know I know, a tad greedy eh, Ok so drop the HP400 as I don't have room for the box anyway....
Ray
i'm new to this game... this announcement looks to me like they are indeed releasing kits at a faster rate than usual this year... anyone who was around back in the day confirm that they're on a faster pace lately?
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I emailed Richard at WNW, partly to thank him for the Dolphin & Taube (superb mouldings), partly to get an idea of what's up next.
He very kindly replied with an extraordinarily straight bat. He gave very little away.
Not to be outdone, I decided to e-mail Peter Jackson, and see if I could get around this veil of secrecy concerning this April 21, announcement. Much to my surprise, Sir Peter responded to me, even though I have never met the man in my life. He said matter-of-factly that the Fokker Dr.1 is the big secret announcement that is coming. Each of the first 300 kits will come with a swatch of the red fabric from the Baron's famous red tri-plane, complete with certificates of authenticity. So everybody preorder fast! Needless to say, these first 300 kits will sell for the astronomical price of $1,000.00 each, American. Everybody get your wallets out.
;) ;D
For the gullible, this is just a fever dream I had.
Only 300? That must leave around 30,000 pieces of Red Baron fabric still in circulation
No, actually these are all the swatches that exist: 300. You see, these swatches are rather large, actually... ;D
Reading this I remember the discussions about all the relic parts of the holy cross in the Middle Ages. There were so many splinters of the "true cross" around, that some people were kidding that it was possible to built Noahs ark out of them not just a cross...
Borsos
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No, actually these are all the swatches that exist: 300. You see, these swatches are rather large, actually... ;D
and the controversy over which are authentic can reach a pc-10 like fever pitch...
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i'm new to this game... this announcement looks to me like they are indeed releasing kits at a faster rate than usual this year... anyone who was around back in the day confirm that they're on a faster pace lately?
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Actually, it's more like a return to the earlier pace of releases. 2017 was equalled twice before, and 2 other years was almost matched. From my own list of releases, this is how it looks:
Year Released Out of Stock
2009 4 2
2010 10 9
2011 5 0
2012 9 8
2013 8 1
2014 10 1
2015 5 0
2016 0 0
2017 10 1
Between 2015 & 2016 was the end of free shipping, and the changeover to Weta for distribution. To put it mildly, that was not a smooth transition. The free shipping was always supposed to be temporary, and lasted longer than we could have expected. The Camels were promised for late 2016, but were delayed until 2017.
This list is accurate, as far as I can tell. If there are errors, I'm sure someone else has better numbers, but it's compiled from info on WNW's site.
Rich
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JeffK wrote: "and the controversy over which are authentic can reach a pc-10 like fever pitch..."
Truth! Some would be "redder" than others. I guess one key would be to check for streaked olive canvas under the "red".
All kidding aside, I do hope that WNW does decide to give the Dr.I the WNW treatment, sooner rather than later.
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Reading this I remember the discussions about all the relic parts of the holy cross in the Middle Ages. There were so many splinters of the "true cross" around, that some people were kidding that it was possible to built Noahs ark out of them not just a cross...
Borsos
I'm sorry, I don't want to derail this, but now you've all got me curious. What is the deal with Richthofen death plane relics? It's a subject I'm pretty thoroughly ignorant about.
Are all or most of these things accounted for? I know his plane was besieged by souvenir hunters, but is there some giant amount of bogus MvR fabric & etc going around? (And no, I won't be the slightest surprised if the answer is yes there is.)
If you google "Richthofen fabric" there certainly do seem to be quite a few examples on past auctions, including many claiming to be from his death plane and with apparent provenance. What really did happen to all this stuff?
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Hi Wodehouse
Von Richthofen's Fokker DR.1 was shredded by souvenir hunters and as he was brought down by Australian troops ( that'll get everyone going now :) ) many items were retrieved by Aussies and brought home after the war. A number of them are on display at the Australian War Memorial in Canberra, and others are disbursed around the world in various museums and private collections.
I'm not sure how many pieces of MVR fabric have been authenticated but the figure of 300 would not be unrealistic. Like all war memorabilia though there is a big market in fakes.
Oddly, the two machine guns from Von Richthofen's DR1 have disappeared I believe. There are photos of the guns being examined and images of the shredded DR1 so it's unusual the guns are not officially accounted for. If someone does know their current home I'd love to know.
None of this feeds the thread of Wingnut's new product announcement around April 21 but I would say don't get too hung up on the date guys- April 21 is the date of the scale model expo in Wellington. The model show people chose the date, not Wingnuts.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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The Red Baron's aeroplane relics is like an old Blackadder episode, where Blackadder comes back from the Middle East with a relic - a bone from one of Jesus's fingers, purchased at a high price.
Baldrick then laughs at him, telling him it's a fake. Blackadder demands to know why he's so confident - Baldick then shows him a small wooden box with 10 fingers, proclaiming that they always come in sets of 10.
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Year Released Out of Stock
2009 4 2
2010 10 9
2011 5 0
2012 9 8
2013 8 1
2014 10 1
2015 5 0
2016 0 0
2017 10 1
Rich
That's a useful chart, thanks Rich.
It is interesting how people can see the same data and interpret it differently. As i look at the hole in 2016 and mentally push the six Camel boxing's at it, due to that being WNW intended release. Now of course they didn't make it but if you look at the numbers as intended release it is
2015 5
2016 6
2017 4
My thoughts were along the lines of that now they are well established they will be putting out a varied range every year. A couple of new kits and a couple of re releases w/ new decals. Enough to ensure revenue keeps rolling in. Profit from the paid off tools funding the bulk of new tool development.
PJ may be the cash float but his business acumen is second to none.
Marcus
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thanks for the table, Rich.
as Marcus says, we may all see very different things in this data. this data's ultimately tea leaves as we have very little knowledge of the whys, so it's a bit speculative.
i'd speculate that 2016 wasn't going well at all for them, and that impacted the intended date of the Camel release. i'd also speculate that things are picking up for them since they opened up distribution channels. we gnash our teeth and tear out our hair (i shave my head to prevent this) every time a kit sells out, but it's good news for them. to my eye that would accelerate the release schedule.
This also being the centenary of 1918, that being a rather important year, this too would accelerate the release schedule. so i'm cautiously optimistic that they have a big year planned for us. (that said, i'm in the camp of hoping they release stuff that's not already available in 1/32).
as to what they will release, multiple sources have confirmed that it's pretty much down to Sir Peter's whim. and that if WNW has ever made a profit it's very recent. that said, regardless of your pile of money you wouldn't want to just burn money needlessly, thus the repair of distribution. while i expect they planned to release the Camel for a long time, this does look designed to be a money maker. so it wouldn't shock me to see something super-popular like a dreidecker, even though i'd rather see a LOT of other things (DH.4, Bristol Scout, Martinsyde Elephant, Gotha/Comic duelist, even the butt-ugly DH.5...)
speculating on what the next release will actually be, and setting my wish list aside, i'd bet a) it's not figures or 'deluxe editions', b) hasn't been a brit 2-seater lately, so probably a DH.4 or BE.2, c) my hedge bet would be a 'trilogy,' probably Richtofen-related Albatri (though i'd rather have a Black Flight).
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A Black Flight trilogy would impart some spin to the game, as would a DVII trilogy, or even a Pfalz DIIIa trilogy. A Dr I/Re 8 duelist might get some juices flowing as well. I'd like to see, at some point, a Brit bomber to match the two German bombers. Keep in mind that WNW is the only IM company to venture into the 1920s with model kits. So, it is a possibility that some very late war planes could be released.
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A Black Flight trilogy would impart some spin to the game, as would a DVII trilogy, or even a Pfalz DIIIa trilogy. A Dr I/Re 8 duelist might get some juices flowing as well. I'd like to see, at some point, a Brit bomber to match the two German bombers. Keep in mind that WNW is the only IM company to venture into the 1920s with model kits. So, it is a possibility that some very late war planes could be released.
Like a Sopwith Cuckoo with folding wings, HP100/400/1500, Vimy, BlackBurn Kangaroo?
Much as I would love some of those the Friedrichshafen should be on the list to complete the 3 German Bombers. Oh and a Comc Camel...
If I say that last one enough perhaps it will come out.
Ray
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While I can agree that "technically", the Camels (and who here predicted SIX boxings?), could be counted as 2016 releases, it was going to be very late '16, at best. Still, there were 10 releases within a calendar year, which seemed like manna from heaven after the year-plus drought. For myself, I'm glad that they at least waited until the distribution mess was worked out. It didn't hurt that I had tax money to spend, or Amazon gift cards from the kids (an extra $50 is always helpful). Two of the US vendors sell on Amazon.
My point still stands - for whatever reason, it seems like the release schedule has picked up, and some who may not recall the earlier years may think this is a new thing. In past years (pre-2016), they've released 10 (twice), 9, and 8 in a calendar year, so we can hope this is a return to their previous plan. Also, Camels aside, what a year! (At least judging by the response online.) The Stahltaube & Dolphin were inspired choices. At first, I hesitated on the Dolphin, having always thought it odd & ugly. But, seeing several builds on here, and taking a fresh look at its pugnacious appearance (and reading "The Bandy Papers"), it grew on me, and I had to have one. As for the 2 re-boxings, the Albatros "Green Tail" trilogy was the fastest kit ever to sell out, and the first repop of the Fokker D.VII is apparently almost sold out as well. The trilogy may have been a smaller run, being large and expensive, but sure seems to have sold briskly anyway. Missed in all of this is that on their own site, WNW has started selling more engine and other parts sprues, including all of the particular D.VII versions, as well as several of the kit decal sheets.
Let's hope this is a return to the old release schedule, and we'll see many more inspired choices. The Junkers D.I doesn't interest me at this time (but as with the Dolphin, never say never), but is important, and has its fans on this Forum. I have the old FMP poster of MvR and all of his aircraft framed on the wall behind me, as well as all of Peter Kilduff's books on the man, a signed copy of 1969's "Who Killed the Red Baron?", and several other related books on my shelves. Still, I'm not as excited as some by the speculation that the April 21 announcement will be a Dr.I. If it is, I'm sure I'll get one or more, but I'd like to see some more inspired surprises.
Rich
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A great summary Rich, and no matter how you look at it, nothing to complain about! In 2009 I was thinking seriously of switching to 1:32 Scale from 1:48, but a little hesitant given that there weren't many 1:32 subjects available. Wingnut Wing's initial "foursome" lured me into the larger scale but I still wondered about the long term. Now, only 9 years later there have been a total of 62 Kits issued by this one company, we still have the Special Hobbies, Hobby Crafts and very good Roden Kits available and Copper State is venturing into the scale. I keep reading of big Stashes and mine is worrisome but comforting as well AND who could build this many Kits anyways, the choices are incredible by 10 years ago standards. I always enjoy Gary Barling's (Our Trackpad) pronouncements regarding the number of Kits stashed vs. the life expectation of the average Builder and the resulting 'Delta". In my case it's a defiance of logic at best, someone's going to get a lot of nice models to build when my day inevitably arrives. When I was younger the greatest logic of all was "he who has the most toys when he dies wins!"
It's not just the larger scale that's pretty well stocked; there's been a number of really classy releases in 1:48 Scale and "Braille Scale" has always had by far the greatest selection. I'd say we have nothing to complain about and we've never had it so good! :) :) :)
Cheers,
Lance
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I'm still betting on the Handley Page. But I bet on that before the Junkers...Anyway I'll go to the Expo and see.
Cheers
Alistair
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I'm still betting on the Handley Page. But I bet on that before the Junkers...Anyway I'll go to the Expo and see.
Cheers
Alistair
I'll see you a Paralyzer and raise you an Ilya Mouromets!
Nah seriously the HP is WAY more likely than the Mouromets. What an epic kit that will be if you're right.
And gents... if the wife complains about the size of your Paralyzer and won't accept "i'll fold the wings, dear" for an answer, time for a new wife....
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It is going to be the 1918 Demonge/Buscaylet. Only joking. This experimental plane has to be the strangest aircraft built during WWI. Torpedo shaped with propeller revolving through aft fuselage. Cruciform tail surfaces plus a forward canard mounted on a boom to tilt upper hinged wing. Photos of the framework and finished craft can be seen on Aerodrome forum under the heading "Unidentified French or Belgian bomber".
I tried in vain to find a three view drawing or even dimensions. If anyone has information on this aircraft please send me a PM or email.
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Hi Wodehouse
Von Richthofen's Fokker DR.1 was shredded by souvenir hunters and as he was brought down by Australian troops ( that'll get everyone going now :) ) many items were retrieved by Aussies and brought home after the war. A number of them are on display at the Australian War Memorial in Canberra, and others are disbursed around the world in various museums and private collections.
I'm not sure how many pieces of MVR fabric have been authenticated but the figure of 300 would not be unrealistic. Like all war memorabilia though there is a big market in fakes.
Oddly, the two machine guns from Von Richthofen's DR1 have disappeared I believe. There are photos of the guns being examined and images of the shredded DR1 so it's unusual the guns are not officially accounted for. If someone does know their current home I'd love to know.
None of this feeds the thread of Wingnut's new product announcement around April 21 but I would say don't get too hung up on the date guys- April 21 is the date of the scale model expo in Wellington. The model show people chose the date, not Wingnuts.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Thanks for the explanation, Dave.
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A Black Flight trilogy would impart some spin to the game, as would a DVII trilogy, or even a Pfalz DIIIa trilogy. A Dr I/Re 8 duelist might get some juices flowing as well. I'd like to see, at some point, a Brit bomber to match the two German bombers. Keep in mind that WNW is the only IM company to venture into the 1920s with model kits. So, it is a possibility that some very late war planes could be released.
I think an RE.8 duellists boxing with the new type would sell like hot cakes. Or a Sopwith Tripe duellists boxing.
I've recently sold a WNW RE.8 & a WNW Tripe for £200 each, so I'm kinda hoping they are re-released at some point.
I've got a couple of Roden's Tripes, with Brian Fawcetts corrected, lengthened fuselage, so I'm happy enough with that.
I used my WNW Tripe £200 money to buy a 1/32 Hobbyboss P-61B, both 1/32 Roden Fokker Triplane boxing's, a new Revell 1/32 P-51D Mustang, a new Revell 1/32 Fw190A-8 Nightfighter and a new Special Hobby Fokker D.II, all on EBay at too-good-to-turn-down prices.
So I may be WNW Tripe-less, but I've got an awful lot of good plastic to counter my loss.
The RE.8 £200 is being saved for HK's 1/32 Lancaster, due to arrive this summer. Not WWI, but being British, it's a legal requirement that I order one.
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Thanks for the explanation, Dave.
There's a further complication in that someone in (I think) the 1960's was faking WWI fabric samples. So to Dave's 300 authenticated bits you can add a lot that are supposed to be real and aren't
Richard
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It is going to be the 1918 Demonge/Buscaylet...This experimental plane has to be the strangest aircraft built during WWI.
stranger than the Floh... Stranger than the five wing Fokker... stranger than the SPAD SA.4 (but looks like the engineers hung out at the same coffee shop or something)... yeah that thing wins.
I'd also be interested in further info.
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Well I'm going to be a bit cranky here. I pre-order the new Junkers months ago and have to wait til April 24th for it to ship which means mid May arrival. Meanwhile Hyperscale gets a full production kit for review last week. Hmmmm...as a paying customer.......yeah I know like I have nothing else in the stash......
Steve
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Steve/ Pepperman
It's part of the marketing of a product for early samples to be sent out to reviewers so their reviews are ready by product launch date. This is routinely done with books, DVDs, music and model kits.
What's different this time is that reviewers have jumped the gun and published reviews well ahead of the kit's launch. I wouldn't be surprised in future if Wingnuts put an embargo date on reviews, but then the marketing objective has been met- the product was reviewed positively which must aid sales when the Junkers goes on sale on April 24. A few buyers can get it sooner at the Model Expo in Wellington on April 21.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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I got my Junkers D.1 in the mail last week. Pre-ordered direct from WNW a the beginning of the month. Wonder if I'm on the hook for a build review or something no one told me about.
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Steve/ Pepperman
It's part of the marketing of a product for early samples to be sent out to reviewers so their reviews are ready by product launch date. This is routinely done with books, DVDs, music and model kits.
What's different this time is that reviewers have jumped the gun and published reviews well ahead of the kit's launch. I wouldn't be surprised in future if Wingnuts put an embargo date on reviews, but then the marketing objective has been met- the product was reviewed positively which must aid sales when the Junkers goes on sale on April 24. A few buyers can get it sooner at the Model Expo in Wellington on April 21.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
If ever there's a kit manufacturer that just doesn't need reviews in order to sell, it's Wingnut Wings.
I'd buy a WNW 1/32 house-brick.
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I can now confirm with 100 percent certainty that the new kit will include a Gotha in some form, perhaps as a Duellist set.
How do I know this? Simples. I just got a Gotha on eBay.
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Three and a half hour left until we'll know more..!
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Three and a half hour left until we'll know more..!
I was just going to ask at about what time in the US we can expect the probable announcement? Seeing as how it will be at a show and not the stroke of Midnight!
RAGIII
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So the answer is --
new deluxe boxings of the Albatros D.V, Sopwith Tripehound, AMC DH.2 and Fokker E.II
Richtofen, Collishaw, Hawker & Immelmann figures. pix on Facebook now.
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Thanks for the heads up Bo, they look great (at last they are released). I was hoping for a new kit, but these are a welcomed surprises.
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I am very happy. Figures do not interest me, as does not the Fokker E.II. I already have DH.2, Triplane and Albatros D.V built in my display. So I can tranquilly concentrate on reducing my unbuilt stash and not be tempted to increase it! ;D
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Nice stuff , thank you.
I love a good fig , however , I dont see anything there I need right away.
I think/hope there may be more to come...
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I’m happy there will finally be some Triplanes with prices that aren’t stratospheric!
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Well all I can say is, “The fun never stops!”
Kevin
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MvR Alb D.V kit has decals for 5 options plus bonus decals for (Roden) Albatros D.III & (Roden) Fokker Dr.I
interesting. That should put a wet blanket on the speculation that WNW will release either of those any time soon.
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Underwhelmed apart from the tripehound.
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...100% want the WNW kids colouring page.....
Steve
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WTH!
Decals for other manufacturers kits?
No boundaries at WNW !
The long promised figs are nice , is a Gotha premier edition far behind?
...and yeah 2 for the coloring book...
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Nice! sign me up for one of each! Have been researching Hawkers plane for my DH2, now I don't have to :D
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Note that this means an Oswald Boelcke Fokker E.IV packaging is no doubt in the pipeline -- the kit already has the "O/B" nose ornament molded on one of cowlings (which you are told to file off in the instructions).
Probably they are waiting for the regular boxing to sell out before announcing.
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I'm just back from the Expo. As well as the box art for the new kits on display - no kit inside as yet - they had a lot of out of production and damaged kits for sale (limit of 1 per customer) and 20% off for purchases over NZ$200. Selling like hotcakes! Also the Junkers D1 was there of course. I picked up a Hannover and a set of Wooden Wonders decals for the Alb DV. (both previously sold out) for NZ$160. Happy with that :).
Cheers,
Alistair
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I'll pass on all these new WNW kits. I don't like the pilot based boxing's with figures. 90% of modellers I know don't like figures, it's an entirely different type of modelling to aircraft. Looks like WNW are trying to cash in on their OOP kits by pushing them as long promised "deluxe" boxing's, with figures & decals, maybe some PE?
It's new ground for WNW and a big move away from how they've operated in the past. I don't like kits glorifying particular pilots, it just doesn't sit well with me for some reason.
For the first time ever, I'll pass on WNW's new boxing's. I've got well over 50 WNW kits, but these are easily ones I can avoid buying, especially so as I expect the prices to be higher than normal.
Pretty disappointing.
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Easy pass for me as well, and for all of the same reasons Dekenba. I really personally dislike figures next to models, imo they almost always spoil the illusion... but to each his own.
A caveat would be if there is any retooling (doubtful) and if these include the long promised exhaustive PE sheets (unclear, but not mentioned, so ... not looking good).
Nice to know that I can splurge on a couple of Junker's D.Is intead though, without worrying too much about what's next.
To me the most interesting news by far is the bonus decals for the Alb D.III & Fok Dr.I. On the face of it that would appear to be an admission that (as long held by WNW) that they won't release these as long as there is a credible alternative. Of course it could all be another WNW fake-out, they've done that in the past too.
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In the Albatross box pictures the first decal option shows a fairing behind the pilots head. Is that a standard part of the kit that I just was not aware of?
Marcus
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In the Albatross box pictures the first decal option shows a fairing behind the pilots head. Is that a standard part of the kit that I just was not aware of?
Marcus
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These smack of collector kits , and seeing the numbers of models guys are collecting , 5-6 of WNW types , maybe WNW see's a market within a market.
I only have about 24 , no doubles.
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so some clarification from Jamo on Facebook, our man at the show -- (btw, the pix from the show are his)
"These are not the 'deluxe' kits as originally envisaged. There are limited decal options, no extra photo etched"
I had forgotten that part of the original "Deluxe" boxing promise were 10 decal options (along with extensive PE and resin figures).
Interestingly, we got the 10+ decal option with the Jasta 5 triple (which makes way more sense -- who wants to pay for nine options they can't use?), and now resin figures with these boxings.
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I am glad to see the return of the Albatros, Sopwith Triplane and DH2.. That being said the price will be a MAJOR factor to me. I "Need" one more Albatros for my collection so probably will go for that one at least. I already have one MvR figure and plan to get the Aviattic one so not too excited about a third. The Decals for the Roden kits are interesting to say the least. I wonder what all of those guys on the WNW fan page will do with theirs as we know Roden kits can not be built ::)
RAGIII
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I totally agree: It is great news to see these oop kits back as they are of an excellent quality and now you won't have to pay these horrible prices on ebay. So this decision for me is absolutely understandable. And to rerelease a kit by adding something new like new decals or a resin figure is nothing we don't know from other manufacturers (Hasegawa...). I love the idea to add decals for the greta Roden kits!
I personally also love good figures and have a great joy painting them. But nevertheless I won't buy any of these rereleases just for the figure. Even Sanke didn't have enough money to pay a pilot for standing the whole day next to his aircraft. Well, it is better than suffering in the trenches, but I am sure that it would have been terribly boring -- One hand on hip, then the other.... flying suit on, flying suit off... hands into pockets ... hmmm, looking around, no photographer in sight .... the scarf is itching and you have to go to the toilet, but no, stand next to your plane and look bravely ... that's a torture, folks, really! ;D
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Well... I for one am *very* pleased.
I very much like the pilot-focused boxings, as I more or less buy kits for the stories behind the real thing anyway. I also like figures, if they're good. Dioramas can look like ghost towns if you don't put people in 'em.
The Collishaw boxing in particular borders on a dream come true.
I hope (and expect) the Collishaw boxing has decals for N5490 and N5492, not just N533. I also hope they'll do Collishaw up like they are Richthofen and include Pup N6160 and Camel D3417 markings. Then all they'll need to do is release a 1 1/2 Strutter and I can have a full run of Collishaw's ships.
Also helps me decide what to do with my DH.2... I'll get the Hawker one, then I only have to decide whether the one I already have is assigned to Wilkinson or McCudden. Park the Hawker DH.2 next to a Richthofen D.II. I'd still really like a Bristol Scout for Hawker.
I hope the figures are resin.
It's also an interesting illustration of what their policy is toward other manufacturers' kits of adequate quality... in the case of the DR.1, or non-D.V Albatri, they're quite happy to concede those to Roden. The Tripehound, on the other hand, is a bit of a surprise. They overlapped Roden when they didn't know Roden was working on one... and the Roden kit's still out there, but they bring it back anyway. It bodes well for an SE5a repop. A Stan Dallas Hisso would be ideal, I've already got the Encore McCudden, and they're not hard to find. This illustration of policy does not offer any clues to whether they'll ever do a Viper SE5a (or an Albert Ball SE5? Please?).
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I was chatting to Jamo there this morning...
They had figures models fully painted on display and they looked extremely good but I know I can't paint that well. Jamo knows of the person who formed them - a name I forget but he may enlighten. I have no idea if they are resin and didn't think to ask Richard Alexander as figures don't interest me anyway - I have had them in a number of different kits and they always end in the didn't want or use box.
Cheers
Alistair
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Like others here I'm in two minds on these kits. It's good that previously OOP kits are to be re-released, especially for those that missed out the first time around.
However these kits do suggest that they'll not produce those aircraft covered by other manufacturers, which I guess makes sense.
Also how many of us have drawers full of unused decals from kits - do we really need so many?
As for the figures - well those in themselves wouldn't entice me to buy the kits.
I have around 140 figures and buy regularly when companies release new ones.
Maybe way over the top but I like to add a figure or two to the display, just for scale effect.
We've waited a long time for the Wingnut figures, but look around and there are plenty already out there:
Wings Cockpit Figures,
Kellerkind
Copper State
Aviattic
Model Celler
MiniArt
Model Kasten
Tommy's War
Elan
Yellow House
Blackdog
Troop54
Pacific Monograph
That said I'll probably look seriously at the figures, if they are sold separately.
Mike
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I was just washing 1/3rd of the sprues from my Albatros trilogy today. I'm not overly-impressed with figures and decals. Do I really want a fourth Albatros? Decals for the Dr. I that I just bought? Maybe. But I don't want to do my Dr.I in red. I'm really keen to try the Fokker streaking.
BUt I do have a Silhouette Portrait. In theory I should be able to create any stencil.
I'll wait til WNW broadcasts a price before I decide...
then I'll probably get a Roden Pfalz...
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That’s pretty disappointing to me..
They were cracking out kits at such a rate and now there are limited new tools and lots of re-boxings..
Oh
Guy
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According to Richard Alexander today, there will probably be a different new release announced at the Shizouka Hobby Fair in May. Still lots more cool stuff in the pipeline
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Mike Good is the figure sculptor. The figures look very nice (but the lighting today at the Model Expo was difficult)
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But I don't want to do my Dr.I in red. I'm really keen to try the Fokker streaking.
Then you are in luck!
DR.I 127/17
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This isn't the all over red DR.I
Richard
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Mike Good is one of the best I think. He did the sculpting for many Model Cellar figures. And the faces are extraordinary!
Borsos
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But I don't want to do my Dr.I in red. I'm really keen to try the Fokker streaking.
Then you are in luck!
DR.I 127/17
This isn't the all over red DR.I
Richard
The inclusion of decals for another Companies kits really emphasizes just How Different WNW is from all other Model Producers! I could be wrong but I do not recall this ever happening with any Manufacturer in any scale 8)
RAGIII
Mike Good is one of the best I think. He did the sculpting for many Model Cellar figures. And the faces are extraordinary!
Borsos
Yes Mike Good is one of the Best! He also did the 1/12th Busts in the Old DML kits.
RAGIII
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Thanks for the fig pics.
We'll NEVER know for sure what they are up to!
So much fun with this.
What a great company and kits and philosophy towards the modeller and the model community and industry!
This I have said many , many times and is how I actually feel , hope that comes across cleanly.
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According to Richard Alexander today, there will probably be a different new release announced at the Shizouka Hobby Fair in May. Still lots more cool stuff in the pipeline
Just when I thought my expenses would not be of concern .......... !! However, it's good news! :)
Cheers,
Lance
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I'll throw this out there as well ;
Just because they made decals for another manufacturers kit has no bearing on whether they will make that subject kit or not!
They could be decals for an upcoming kit!
I now ,based on the past record, think they will be doing a Fokker triplane!
LOL TOO MUCH FUN!
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I love the way WNW’s is not really motivated the way other companies are. If they never do a DR1 it wouldn’t bother me at all. Think of the other aircraft we will get instead. I’ll probably buy all four and yes I do paint figures so these are great for me.
Ray
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I was just washing 1/3rd of the sprues from my Albatros trilogy today. I'm not overly-impressed with figures and decals. Do I really want a fourth Albatros? Decals for the Dr. I that I just bought? Maybe. But I don't want to do my Dr.I in red. I'm really keen to try the Fokker streaking.
BUt I do have a Silhouette Portrait. In theory I should be able to create any stencil.
I'll wait til WNW broadcasts a price before I decide...
then I'll probably get a Roden Pfalz...
lol
Hi GazzaS,
I have a 'Cricut Explore Air 2', which is a similar machine to your 'Silhouette' in what it can do.
However, apart from trying out the test pieces I've not really used it in anger yet.
Do you use it for masking templates/stencils etc for aircraft markings not provided as decals by anyone.
If so I'd be interested to know how you get on with it,
Mike?
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I was just washing 1/3rd of the sprues from my Albatros trilogy today. I'm not overly-impressed with figures and decals. Do I really want a fourth Albatros? Decals for the Dr. I that I just bought? Maybe. But I don't want to do my Dr.I in red. I'm really keen to try the Fokker streaking.
BUt I do have a Silhouette Portrait. In theory I should be able to create any stencil.
I'll wait til WNW broadcasts a price before I decide...
then I'll probably get a Roden Pfalz...
lol
Hi GazzaS,
I have a 'Cricut Explore Air 2', which is a similar machine to your 'Silhouette' in what it can do.
However, apart from trying out the test pieces I've not really used it in anger yet.
Do you use it for masking templates/stencils etc for aircraft markings not provided as decals by anyone.
If so I'd be interested to know how you get on with it,
Mike?
Hi Mike,
I'm still pretty new to using the Silhouette, but as far as I can tell it's only limit is how the masking material reacts to being cut. For instance, I tried to do some of the stencils and werke nummer for a 1/48 scale bf109. The cutter cut the numbers which were only around 1.2mm tall.
However, numbers like 0,3,4,5,6,8, and 9 which have hollow centers, or lots of inner curves, had problems with the masking material lifting away from the backing and becoming distorted. Letters and numbers around 2mm tall were not affected.
I have scanned old, yellowed decal sheets and imported them into the Silhouette library and made masks of the markings. So, really you should be able to do any kind of mask you want whether it be a camo mask, or any markings as long as the masking material behaves.
Except for that, I can't think of any limitations other than the skill of the user.
Best of luck!
Gaz
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But I don't want to do my Dr.I in red. I'm really keen to try the Fokker streaking.
Then you are in luck!
DR.I 127/17
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This isn't the all over red DR.I
Richard
Well Richard,
It seems to be sorted for me already! The next question is, which will come first: The release of the new Alby or me putting together the Fokker?
Thanks friend!
Gaz
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So I don't know if I should be happy with the new kits or not. Seems they found a way to reissue the OOP kits. That is good for us, who missed to buy a DH2 or a Tripe. But on the other hand I was in hope of something really new. The poses of the Pilots are the same as those you can get from other manufactures. Only thing I hope is that they bring us some more figures we can buy seperate without a plane.
Bye,
Manni
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Mike Good is one of the best figure sculptors in the world so I'm delighted Wingnuts chose him to do their ace figures. I hope the figures are also available separately, as a set or individually because I already have the aircraft kits and multiples of the Albatros.
It's great to see Wingnuts find a creative way to reissue sold out kits but in a new way that makes them more than reissues.
Yes we would love to see brand new kit subjects too but those who missed out on the Sopwith Triplane, Albatros and DH 2 will get another chance without being hit by unrealistic collector prices.
In the meantime we have a brand new kit hitting the market right now- the Junkers D1.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Gaz:
Thanks for your input on the cutter - I'll try mine and see how it copes with small letters/numbers and shapes.
Dave:
I agree Mike Good is one of the best figure sculptors out there. I also highly rate Steve Warrilow, Doug Craner and Benoit Cauchie, who sculpt for 'Wings Cockpit Figures' and also Martin Hille of 'Kellerkind Miniatures'.
Mike
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Mike Good is one of the very best sculptors and has produced numerous WWI figures over the years. His Eduard von Schleich and Werner Voss figures for Model Cellar are beautiful.
I also hope the WNW figures will become available to buy individually. Like many others I, too, already have the aircraft kits.
Cheers
Syd
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Another really good figure sculptor is Radek Tomanek from Black Dog.
Cheers
Syd
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Hi Syd,
Yes totally agree - I have all of the Blackdog figures.
One thing I've noticed though from the various figure suppliers is that although they are all at 1:32 scale, there are obvious differences in the sizes of the figures.
Some are of a similar size, but others are noticeably larger, such as Troop54.
I appreciate that we are all not a standard size (I'm 6' 3"), but I think care is needed when using more than one figure against a model, just to keep it all in scale.
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This is a welcome initiative
I have the excellent Copper State crews and pilots and the figures are a great addition for any WW1 model even if they are left in Grey.
Pity that some figures are depicted in a static pose.
I feel that the WNW figures are in a pose that is too classic. Anyway it will be a good chance to buy OOP kits
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Hi Folks,
It's been a long time since I've been able to build anything or participate in the forum, work, family and life doing their thing! I was stunned and upset to read
of Des's passing, I communicated with him on several projects and he was always so encouraging and supportive. So glad to see the forum is continuing in his memory.
I've just had the WNW news letter from Richard Alexander and it looks like the 'Sold Out' Albatros DV, DH2, Fokker EII and Sopwith Tripe
are going to be made available again for the 'single seater price' with the addition of resin figures of Richthofen, Hawker, Immelmann and Collishaw
to go with their respective mounts.
What do folk think about that? I cant' help but feel that 'Sold Out' should mean exactly that. Those that bought the kit originally then own something collectable and exclusive that will increase in value. Why don't they just release the figures? I saw a Sopwith Tripe go on ebay recently for over £200, but it looks like it will now be available again for the original price. That guy must be spitting feathers! I guess it comes down to how much you want something in your collection. It just goes to show these bidding wars for OOP kits need to be treated with caution as they will probably come back in another boxing later on!
Paul
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Sandbagger
That is an excellent figure scale size comparison “chart”: the most comprehensive one I have seen for 1/32.
I might try to do same thing for 1/48 figures, as I know from experience they vary enormously between manufacturers.
Cheers
Syd
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Hi Folks,
It's been a long time since I've been able to build anything or participate in the forum, work, family and life doing their thing! I was stunned and upset to read
of Des's passing, I communicated with him on several projects and he was always so encouraging and supportive. So glad to see the forum is continuing in his memory.
I've just had the WNW news letter from Richard Alexander and it looks like the 'Sold Out' Albatros DV, DH2, Fokker EII and Sopwith Tripe
are going to be made available again for the 'single seater price' with the addition of resin figures of Richthofen, Hawker, Immelmann and Collishaw
to go with their respective mounts.
What do folk think about that? I cant' help but feel that 'Sold Out' should mean exactly that. Those that bought the kit originally then own something collectable and exclusive that will increase in value. Why don't they just release the figures? I saw a Sopwith Tripe go on ebay recently for over £200, but it looks like it will now be available again for the original price. That guy must be spitting feathers! I guess it comes down to how much you want something in your collection. It just goes to show these bidding wars for OOP kits need to be treated with caution as they will probably come back in another boxing later on!
Paul
WNW Never said that a kit would not be re released in another guise. In fact they said just the Opposite. Only 2 people lose in a ridiculous E BAY frenzy purchase when kits are reissued in another guise. The E Bay seller who wants a huge profit and the Unwarry Buyer who pays a Big Price. That being said the kits will never be re released at "Original Price" The original Albatros price was $59.00 US including shipping IIRC. This release will most likely be in the $99.00 range if I am guessing correctly . I personally LOVE WNW re release kits. A little different than the originals but still give an opportunity to get things you missed or want more of!
RAGIII
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I have zero sympathy for the pain this causes speculators and those daft enough to pay over the odds for a sold out kit. If you truly view these kits as collectibles then you'd want to collect the whole set anyway.
If you are buying kits to speculate... First, I thank you for helping WNW keep doing what they're doing. Second, it's called speculation for a reason. If you didn't know the risk you're doing it wrong.
Doesn't have to end badly. Bandai announced winning the Star Wars rights right after I listed my Fine Molds Millennium Falcon, and it sold on the cheap. Turns out the guy who bought it is a massive WNW fan so not only did I get a new modeling buddy, I got a Biff on the cheap.
For those hoping for a separate release of the figs it's probably not necessary. A lot of people will be buying these just for the plastic. A separate Collishaw posed identically next to all 5 Black Flight Tripes would look a bit off...
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......... I've just had the WNW news letter from Richard Alexander and it looks like the 'Sold Out' Albatros DV, DH2, Fokker EII and Sopwith Tripe
are going to be made available again for the 'single seater price' with the addition of resin figures of Richthofen, Hawker, Immelmann and Collishaw
to go with their respective mounts.
What do folk think about that? I cant' help but feel that 'Sold Out' should mean exactly that. Those that bought the kit originally then own something collectable and exclusive that will increase in value. Why don't they just release the figures? I saw a Sopwith Tripe go on ebay recently for over £200, but it looks like it will now be available again for the original price. That guy must be spitting feathers! I guess it comes down to how much you want something in your collection. It just goes to show these bidding wars for OOP kits need to be treated with caution as they will probably come back in another boxing later on!
Paul
Welcome back Paul.
As regards your point above:
There’s nothing wrong with someone paying a high price for a particular kit they want on eBay if it suits them nor is it wrong to profit from such a buyer - it’s just supply & demand.
Neither is it wrong if WnW release the kit in a different guise. They never claimed to be making ‘collectible kits’ - just limited edition kits - always making it plain that they intended to re-use the moulds for the de-luxe kit (different decal options in reality so far).
Regards
Russell
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What Russell said.
It's worth noting that this release is very much in line with what WNW have always said they'd do...
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LSM has news on the 4 releases with figures as well as a note from Richard Alexander of WNW that states if all goes right, there may be a new announcement at the Shizuoka show, May 10-14.
Let the speculation begin.
Tim Pivonka
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With all the comments about the decals included in the MvR kit for the Dr.I, and the reinforced implication that there won't be a WNW Triplane in the near future, I haven't seen the same point made about the D.III; there's a follow-on implication which I'm personally very sad about.
It seems WNW aren't going to produce a D.III (incidentally, this was actually the most important type Richthofen flew), and it'd be surprising if anyone else did. Which probably means that no one is going to produce an Oeffag D.III anytime soon. Roden have given up on WWI so I don't think they're going to.
I know, I know, thanks to Copper State the engine's available, and it wouldn't be the most difficult conversion to do, of the Roden kit. The decals/markings might be the hardest part of the exercise.
But why does it have to be an exercise? Check out the Osprey books, there's a fantastic range of schemes, many of them highly attractive. The plane was flown by most the the AH aces. And from what I've read, it was the best Albatros of all. I'd definitely buy a decent kit of it in 1/32.
Oh well. Looking forward to hearing about something interesting in May. If only a SPAD XIII...
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Like others have said, if you view these as collectables then well, sorry I do have some swampland that is very collectable.
Whilst I'll pay for a model I want, its ultimately to build it.
WNW have never said they would not re-release in different forms, in fact most of the people on this site I suspect welcome re-releases. It seems a tragedy to me to collect these too only collect. But hey if that's what turns your crank have at it.
One of my other hobbies is classic bikes, to ride and restore and its sad to see how many bikes end up hidden away, never ridden and garage queens because of speculation on worth.
Ray
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An OEFFAG D.III would be all kinds of awesome. Maybe I'm an optimist but I think it's different enough to Roden's offering that they could consider it.
Or maybe Copper State will queue one up if the Nieuport sells well? They've already got the engine and a Brumowski figure.
What I'd really like to see WNW do in this series, though, is a Pithey and Rhodes R.E. 8.
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After reading about the Cricut on here, I asked my wife about these machines. She has one and uses it to cut thin aluminum sheet (Drink cans flattened) and other stuff. She let me play on it a bit unsupervised lol.
While I wouldn't go out and buy a Cricut for the odd stuff I need. Since we have one I can see lots of uses. It cuts plastic sheet (1mm thick or less), aluminum sheet, vinyl and paper. Small under 2 mm letters and numbers need cleaning up but are doable. I just used Cricuts software. But if you can use PhotoShop you could pretty much do any template. Have to get the wife to do that as I'm a dunce with image software.
Below are normal circles on plain paper - Non shiny and letters and numbers on the same paper. While the numbers need a bit of clean up they are not too bad and better than I could do by hand. A bonus is you can save the templates so they are exactly repeatable again and again. Also plastic card could be used for access panels etc. You don't even have to use full size pieces of paper or masking material, since you mount what you will cut on a pre-measured mat that is used in the printer as a guide.
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of course my wife is irritated as I dropped the mat, and since its a little sticky to act as a mount, it got erm crap on it :o :( she said something about I'm worse and need more supervision than her kindergartners (shes a school teacher)
So if you always do your own markings this thing works down to probably 2mm or so.
Ray
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An OEFFAG D.III would be all kinds of awesome. Maybe I'm an optimist but I think it's different enough to Roden's offering that they could consider it.
Or maybe Copper State will queue one up if the Nieuport sells well? They've already got the engine and a Brumowski figure.
What I'd really like to see WNW do in this series, though, is a Pithey and Rhodes R.E. 8.
Jeff...."like to see....is a 'what and a what'"?
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An OEFFAG D.III would be all kinds of awesome. Maybe I'm an optimist but I think it's different enough to Roden's offering that they could consider it.
Or maybe Copper State will queue one up if the Nieuport sells well? They've already got the engine and a Brumowski figure.
What I'd really like to see WNW do in this series, though, is a Pithey and Rhodes R.E. 8.
Jeff...."like to see....is a 'what and a what'"?
http://warnepieces.blogspot.com/2015/05/hervey-rhodes-re-8-rarity-observer.html (http://warnepieces.blogspot.com/2015/05/hervey-rhodes-re-8-rarity-observer.html)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-so2Gt-edVy4/VV2BVgQE5MI/AAAAAAAACaE/DgR9VZNqPEQ/s640/RE-8%2Bof%2BPithey%2BRhodes%2Bart%2Bleft%2Bside%2B-%2Bwith%2BID%2Bcodes.jpg)
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yep, got to agree on that one. A very talented crew, and best yet, a Yorkshireman!
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yep, got to agree on that one. A very talented crew, and best yet, a Yorkshireman!
so you think you're hot stuff on that Camel, Mr. Barker? take this bus up and show us what you can REALLY do.
(full disclosure: i'm a huge Barker fan and half believe he could have made ace in a Bleriot vs D.VIIs by throwing rocks at them).
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Hate to say this but Barker was an observer and pilot on RE8’s to.
Ray
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Hate to say this but Barker was an observer and pilot on RE8’s to.
Ray
he also shuttled the Prince of Wales around in a Biff, looking at enemy troop dispositions and stuff.
let's face it: Chuck Norris ain't nothin' compared to Billy Barker.
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(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMPDbwgIuwuerXw214IbRkCiM3Q2qC_WBltDB20hbyFKm5T7XIWA)
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yep, got to agree on that one. A very talented crew, and best yet, a Yorkshireman!
(Groan and roll eyes in embarrassement)....do I really want to admit this?...guess so.....I actually went to Wiki and tried to find a WWI airplane called a Pithey....and/or an RE8 version built by a Rhodes aircraft contractor or somesuch. In my (only) defense, it was pre-coffee....and I'm old.
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Finally time for that Albatros C.VII, C.X, Breguet 14 or SPAD XIII :)
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With the Camel, Dolhipn,Junkers D1, and the announced re issues pretty much all of the releases have been single seaters. My GUESS is a two seater, probably British or Perhaps even French. A 1 1/2 strutter would be great 8)
RAGIII
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I pray to Thor for an Albatros C.VII, C.X,, or C.XII, or perhaps a Halberstadt CL.II or CLIV...one can dream.
Jason
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Halberstadt D-II/D-III--- Last of my wish list... Well maybe a Sop 1-1/2...
Ed
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"I pray to Thor"
I said to Thor, just this morning, "Now, a 1 1/2 Strutter would be perfect!!"
He just rolled over, sighed, and went back to sleep!
Thor, in his younger days.......
(https://i.imgur.com/o3bP7Nv.jpg)
Can't believe he really was so disinterested!
Cheers,
Lance
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maybe we should take this 1 1/2 Strutter thing straight to Odin.
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"I pray to Thor"
I said to Thor, just this morning, "Now, a 1 1/2 Strutter would be perfect!!"
He just rolled over, sighed, and went back to sleep!
Thor, in his younger days.......
(https://i.imgur.com/o3bP7Nv.jpg)
Can't believe he really was so disinterested!
Cheers,
Lance
Great pic of your puppy Lance! :)
So he would rather sleep than hear about model planes that he isn't allowed to play with, would he?
Can't say I blame him. So would I. ;D
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Lance, Bring "Thor" a big fleshy bone and tell him that's a 1 1/2 Strutter - you'll see, he will not turn away bored anymore.
By the Way, your Thor seems to be a really nice buddy.
Servus
Bertl
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Thor is now, like myself, an "Oldster" who enjoys napping and dreaming of his youth, a perfect companion for this old fellow. He is a clever little Guy, "dropped out" of police academy with the Mounties in his youth and kept some of the stuff he learned to surprise me over time.(like climbing ladders!) He's never more then a foot away from me if within his control, I've had German Shepherd Dogs most of my adult life and love the breed. Bertl, I'll try the bone and Strutter combination, there must be some Canine wisdom there!
Cheers,
Lance
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Based on nothing but supposition, I'm thinking the new Wingnuts announcement may be a two seater this time, and possibly British.
It would be really nice if this two seater closely resembled a BE2.C :)
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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catalogue # 32049
http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3189
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catalogue # 32049
http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3189
Notice that number falls between the Fokker E.III (Late) and the Felixstowe F.2a (Early).
That can mean only one thing...whatever the subject, it will be (Right On Time). :)
Cheers,
Eric
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Great news, but an expensive late 2018. Have to be good so Santa can leave me some WNWs
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interesting.
Given the proximity of the kit # to the Felixstowe, maybe a Curtiss H16?
If so this would be fun:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/80/cf/bd/80cfbd22d3eb0ec9150477e43ce9250d.jpg
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(http://www.primrose-engineering.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/nonsense/WNW.JPG)
I thought they had already released that model
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(http://www.primrose-engineering.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/nonsense/WNW.JPG)
I thought they had already released that model
Richard, this is the Mk. II not the Mk. I
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If you look really closely behind the dot in the question mark, you can see the Halberstadt CL.IV
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The question mark is red in colour. That can only mean one thing, we're going to be graced with a Fok.DR.1 ;D
DO IT!
vB
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Only hours away now, exciting times for certain. I can't believe all the "hype" about a plain old BE.2......... ::)
Cheers!
Lance
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Unless it's the three winged version with a bit of red paint on it ;)
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Sticking with a 2 seater...probably British. I work 3rd shift so will be going to sleep soon. It will all be over when I wake up :o
RAGIII
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SPAD VII now that copper state will provide us with Nieuports...
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This neverendum about three sets of wings and red allover makes me think of one of those annoying little dogs that keeps trying to hump your leg and no matter how often you try to shake it off it keeps coming back.🐕
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Fingers crossed for a Bleriot XI-2
Richard
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"This neverendum about three sets of wings and red allover makes me think of one of those annoying little dogs that keeps trying to hump your leg and no matter how often you try to shake it off it keeps coming back."
Sandy, when posting such a hilarious comment as that above re WnW Fokker DR.1 speculation, please attach a warning to those of us reading while drinking coffee.
That's the funniest post I've seen re the Wingnuts triplane speculation.
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Von R's canine companion Moritz probably turned a full 360 in his grave over this one!! Too funny....... ;)
Cheers,
Lance
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Halberstadt Cl.II
YES!
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Halberstadt Cl.II
YES!
Well at least I got the Halberstadt part right (see May 4), now the question is -- to but or not to buy...
Ed
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Hi Syd,
Yes totally agree - I have all of the Blackdog figures.
One thing I've noticed though from the various figure suppliers is that although they are all at 1:32 scale, there are obvious differences in the sizes of the figures.
Some are of a similar size, but others are noticeably larger, such as Troop54.
I appreciate that we are all not a standard size (I'm 6' 3"), but I think care is needed when using more than one figure against a model, just to keep it all in scale.
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ODDS/figures.jpg)
As a follow up to my original post, here's a shot of figures from 'Allarmi' and from 'Brian Fawcett'.
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ODDS/fig2.jpg)
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Halberstadt Cl.II
YES!
Well at least I got the Halberstadt part right (see May 4), now the question is -- to but or not to buy...
Ed
Between the two of us we got it right amigo. I said a two seater but missed on the guess of probably British 😀