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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: ondra on July 23, 2014, 03:09:36 PM
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Hello everybody,
I am new to this forum, for the last few years I have been building 1:144 scratchbuilds from WWI and would like to share my latest work with you.
Currently I am working on a Nieuport XI flown by Francesco Barraca, here some photos of the progress so far.
I am sorry fot the photo quality, the parts are really tiny but I am working on an improvement of my photographer skills.
Any criticism and advices are welcome.
Regards
Ondra
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Sides and floor of the fuselage.
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And one photo to imagine the scale. ;)
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1:144 if it wasn't for the giant finger I wouldn't believe you. Incredible detail at such a size.
Keep ups posted on your progress Ondra please. I admire anyone who works in smaller scales than I can manage.
Keith
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Great progress on your Nieuport Ondra, it is a very tiny scale but workable and good results can be had, looking forward to seeing more of this build.
Des.
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This is great! Looking forward your next builds
Culi
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Absolutely AMAZING detail in such a small scale!! I am certainly looking forward to your progress!!!
RAGIII
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Very impressive work in such a small scale ! looking forward on your next up-date :)
Terri
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Hello Ondra:
Amazing work in such a small scale. The detail and workmanship is amazing. I am looking forward to following your builds. Welcome to the Forum.
Best
Mark
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You're an illusionist, Ondra! What you are showing us is scientifically impossible! Yet that giant finger looks so real. :o
Cheers,
Bud
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Impressive detailing. I use to build 1/72 models and I find that WWI birds are damn small, so 1/144 are even half that size!
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What can I add? I am used to 1/72 scale and that is small enough. To male a rotary engine in that scale and of that quality takes real skill. I take my hat off to you.
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Amazing work in such a wee scale! I look forward to more updates.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Well, I commented on the Brisfit as a stunning piece of work and this is yet another beauty, Ondra.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Many thanks to everybody, I am really pleased you like my Nieuport.
I took a closer look at the engine and will have to make a new one. Firstly it is not as clean as I would like (have to improve my skills with the cyanoacrylate), secondly the symetry of 2 cylinders is wrong and thirdly it is 0,5 mm too big and would not fit under the cowling. But I hope to have figured out a better way to build it in a cleaner way and in correct size. If everything goes as expected, I will post photos of the new engine next week.
Once again thanks for your kind comments and all the best.
Ondra
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With the Brandenburg D.I finished, it is time to move on with this project, I added a few detail to the fuselage and pilot seat.
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And here the basically finished fuselage sides:
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You are doing an amazing job Ondra especially in such a miniature scale, the seat and seat belts are incredible.
Des.
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Absolutely marvelous modelling in an absolutely micro-scale. One question, that internal rigging on the fuselage sides - is it pencil drawn or are there real lines?
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Thanks for the nice comments, guys!
@Przemol: There is real rigging on the fuselage sides, I used the elastic fibre by Uschi van der Rosten (the extra fine one), I was surprised by myself how thin it is and that it is suitable even for this small scale.
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Thanks for the answer, Ondra. You are building an amazing model!
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Perhaps this attempt on the engine will turn out better than the previous ones...
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Absolutly fantastic your work .
Martin
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What can I say? Just ASTONISHING detail in the scale you work in, and scratch built also!!
RAGIII
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What can I say? Just ASTONISHING detail in the scale you work in, and scratch built also!!
RAGIII
My thoughts exactly, Ondra!
Cheers,
Bud
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Very cool 8)
Terri
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Thank you all for your nice comments, they are highly appreciated.
After test-fitting the engine under the cowling, I found out that only 3 cylinders will be visible, so I decided to cheat a little bit. Please do not tell on me. :) The push-pull rods and the intake manifolds are only on these 3 cylinders, the rest will be basically completely hidden under the cowling.
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And a little progress on the interior, just a few details to be painted and I can assemble all parts and close the fuselage. I love the Nieuport XI for its simplicity in terms of interior equipment!
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Wow!
Martin
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Wow!
Martin
What he Said!
RAGIII
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Thanks, Rick and Martin!
The interior is finished now, let's move on to the fuselage and wings.
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I love it!!!!!!
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Absolutly fantastic this tiny work.
Martin
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Ondra,
You have now been paid the ULTIMATE compliment. MY WIFE was amazed and commented on how terrific your TINY interior looks. She never comments on my work :-X
RAGIII
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Crazy. Absolutely crazy. i had to switch to 1:32 scale for lack of eyesight, and you pull off those details in braille scale. Stunning.
Stefan
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Absolutely amazing Ondra, your attention to detail in such a miniature scale is incredible, well done.
Des.
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Extraordinary work Ondra. This is such an interesting build.
Best wishes
Nigel
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This is amazing, Ondra. I didn't think this kind
of detail was possible in this scale. Wow!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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I'm just amazed on the level of detail for such a small scale !
Terri
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Thank you all very much for your generous comments!
RAGIII: You are right, this is really an ultimate compliment, many thanks to you and your wife. ;)
Here some progress on the fuselage, the engine is glued in place already as I did not figure out any other way to deal with cowling installation.
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And the first prototype of the propeller.
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Outstanding work Ondra.
Martin
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Very cool !
Terri
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Same as the others: the detailing in the cockpit is incredible. How do you manage to handle such parts when I already have problems with 1/72 scratchbuilt parts???
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Hello everybody,
thank you for your kind and encouraging comments!
I am back with slight progress, I finished sanding and filing of the wings and tail ribs and made wheels. The first layer of surfacer showed several spots to take care of but all in all it looks quite fine. Next step will be detailing on the upper wing (ailerons, openings in the upper wing for aileron controls etc.).
The fuselage also got the first surfacer coat, turned out quite satisfactory as well.
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Ondra,
I continue to be amazed at your fine work in this extremely small scale!
RAGIII
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I too am amazed at the progress that you are making with what is an incredible build. I am looking forward to more progress, especially when you start assembly of the major parts as this will be a very interesting model.
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Excellent progress Ondra, to work in such a small scale takes enormous skills.
Des.
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Hello everybody, many thanks for your nice comments!
After a longer break I finally found some time to get back to the Nie XI, so here some pics. Main parts are nearly ready for painting, with some touch-ups necessary. I am not really happy with the openings in the upper wing, will see what they turn out after paint.
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Beautiful! This could easily be mistaken for a larger scale!
RAGIII
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fantastic work! I have never ever seen that before, amazing!
Xan
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Excellent progress Ondra, I'm looking forward to seeing some paint on the model, amazing work for a teeny weeny scale.
Des.
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Hello everybody,
finally I can post some progress worth mentioning here, I played around with CDL on the wings and with preshading on the fuselage and wheels, the result is not optimal, unfortunately...
Many thanks to Des for advice regarding to posting images from on-line picture storage.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0018_zpscb4da853.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0018_zpscb4da853.jpg.html)
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0021_zps02158eeb.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0021_zps02158eeb.jpg.html)
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0020_zps712191a7.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0020_zps712191a7.jpg.html)
Cheers
Ondra
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Ondra,
Apologies for just now seeing your build. What great work! Not only in such a small scale, but a Nieuport to boot! Really great work, sir.
Warren
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The new pictures really show just how TERRIFIC your scratch building is! Lovely!
RAGIII
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Wow, that's one of the nicest cockpits I've seen, even at 3 times the size! Can't wait it see more progress.
George
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Wow! What else can I really say. Your work is oustanding!
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Amazing stuff, Ondra... truly! I'd love to learn more about how you are able work in such a tiny scale as I have a hard enough time in one 4.5 times larger.
Chris
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Amazing stuff, Ondra... truly! I'd love to learn more about how you are able work in such a tiny scale as I have a hard enough time in one 4.5 times larger.
Chris
Many thanks for your generous comments, guys, I really appreciate them a lot and they are a great encouragement for further work.
Please feel free to ask any questions, basically there are no special methods I use. As mentioned in another thread, there is nothing special to it, it is just tiny. :)
Cheers
Ondra
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I built a Sopwith Pup in this scale and even though it was small it was quite enjoyable to work on, but I didn't add the level of detail you are doing here, you are doing amazing work.
Des.
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Not every day brings success. :(
I tried to make the black borders, so I painted the surfaces with CDL, covered them with masking tape and then cut the outlines. The wings are quite ok with several spots to be corrected, unfortunately the fuselage and the elevator are a disaster.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0023_zpszyjtvupw.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0023_zpszyjtvupw.jpg.html)
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Ondra, so sorry this happened, why do you think the wings turned out, but the fuselage didn't? I was thinking of using tape and cutting out the outline on a 1/72nd build.
Warren
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Hi Warren,
I think the reason is simple - the wings have basically straight lines so the masking tape can be cut using a ruler. On the other hand the shapes of the fuselage and the elevator with curves and various angles make the cutting much more difficult.
I will repaint all parts and try another method - thin stripes of black painted decal paper.
Cheers
Ondra
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I've thought of using that too. There are tow upcoming builds in which I've got to overcome this problem:
- Any Nie.11 with the dark outlines (as here) and any Nie.17 with the blue outlines on the wing, and
- The sky blue "return" on Fokker Dr.I fuselages and tailplanes.
I'm thinking of using Frisket film.
Warren
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Another attempt on CDL and black outlines, for test only on the lower wing. Looks better, not perfect, but better.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0055_zpskbvguqdv.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0055_zpskbvguqdv.jpg.html)
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This is what the Nie XI looks like now, the black lines are thicker than they should be but I will probably leave them that way.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0061_zps5rgkuyuo.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0061_zps5rgkuyuo.jpg.html)
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0059_zps14vkdsgb.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0059_zps14vkdsgb.jpg.html)
Cheers
Ondra
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Gorgeous Ondra!
Warren
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You are doing a great job Ondra, working in this tiny scale is hard enough without having to do those really thin black lines but well done.
Des.
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Looking good Ondra , doing that out lining in this scale is tricky . I like yours :)
Have you ever tried a drafting pen with indian ink ? Not one of those disposable ones , one which you can refill .
Terri
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Ondra, I agree with Terri on the good look of the plane so far, using a drafting pen on those edges to me appears a very difficult operation... :-O
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Thank you all very much for your encouraging comments. ;)
I took a look at the photograph of the original and must admit that the outlines are way too thick, about 2 as much as they should be, especially on the fuselage.
So, until I have found a proper method to replicate the black outlines, I will put the Nieuport aside and continue later.
It's Albie time. :)
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Yeah, they are too thick & I admire your willingness to admit that. I suppose at 1/144 what you have is already a very thin line... I like Terri's idea-- tracing the edge of the part with a pen might work? If you could find a way to keep the pen at the same angle as you traced around it...
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You are right, Bo, I also like Terri's idea (btw. many thansk to Terri for the inspiration).
I will now join the group build with the Albie D.Va and along with that I will be testing various techniques on pieces of plastic. I am sure there must be a way. And to be very honest I could not finish the model knowing the lines are wrong. :)
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Very great work and paint on that scratch build.
Martin
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Your welcome Ondra :) I look forward to seeing you re-start this again in future .
Terri
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Ok, another attempt on the black lines, not perfect but better than the previous one.
I will give it a chance and see what it looks like after some weathering.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0141_zpsq28wjg3v.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0141_zpsq28wjg3v.jpg.html)
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0144_zpsdtbi8pch.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0144_zpsdtbi8pch.jpg.html)
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0143_zps7xdsdplx.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0143_zps7xdsdplx.jpg.html)
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0145_zps4ti15qre.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0145_zps4ti15qre.jpg.html)
Cheers
Ondra
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Very good painting Ondra.
Martin
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Looking good !
Terri
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you are an amazing scratch builder ondra. so impressive what you accomplish soooo small.
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Yes!
The black lines appear realistic now!
Great work Ondra!
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Much improved over the previous attempts! I still can't imagine trying to paint those outlines in 1/144th!
RAGIII
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I don't know how you did it, Ondra, but that looks great. You are working in a scale that most would and could not get anywhere near these results. Great work and a real tribute to your persistence!
Cheers,
Lance
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You have achieved remarkable results in such a small scale, very well done.
Des.
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Well done with the painting on the edges, Ondra. Much better!
Wonderful work all around!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Many thanks to all for looking in and for your comments! ;)
For the black outlines I would like to try one more method (very similar to the one Terri suggested). I bought the Alteco Paint Marker, will see how this works out.
While waiting for the paints to dry, I made a slight progress on the V struts.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0147_zpsozz3iq22.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0147_zpsozz3iq22.jpg.html)
Cheers
Ondra
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Ok, this is what the main parts look like now. The Alteco Paint Marker is quite handy for the wings outlines.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0151_zpsxblf9pgl.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0151_zpsxblf9pgl.jpg.html)
For the outlines on the fuselage I had to use thin stripes of self-adhesive aluminium foil painted with black surfacer
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0152_zpsokenrofz.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0152_zpsokenrofz.jpg.html)
Some corrections will be necessary, but all in all I find it acceptable.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0153_zpshzydhfcu.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0153_zpshzydhfcu.jpg.html)
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0154_zpsxiyumvww.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0154_zpsxiyumvww.jpg.html)
And I started working on the base.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0156_zpszyv2vfjj.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0156_zpszyv2vfjj.jpg.html)
Cheers
Ondra
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Paintwork looks perfect.
Martin
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Beautiful! I really have to stop and think about how small this Nieuport is every time you do an update!
RAGIII
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Many thanks, Martin and Rick, for you encouraging comments.
I am still playing around with the black lines, it is a never ending story. :)
Meanwhile I made a new machine gun, a few details still missing but so far I like it.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0164_zps1i2mjdpz.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0164_zps1i2mjdpz.jpg.html)
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0166_zpsew3sx18z.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0166_zpsew3sx18z.jpg.html)
Cheers
Ondra
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You have achieved amazing results with the black lines, they really look the part, I still shake my head everytime I look at this model and find it incredible that you can work on a model so small.
Des.
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Superb machine gun building.
Martin
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This is magic Ondra, I can't believe my eyes. Amazing build and craftmanship!
Kind regards
Patrick
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This is magic Ondra, I can't believe my eyes. Amazing build and craftmanship!
Kind regards
Patrick
I cant believe the scale!!! :) Beautifully done!!! In czech spirit of encouragement- "dobre ty!!!" ;)
Lukas
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Just now catching up Ondra, beautiful work sir!
Warren
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Hello everybody,
I am sorry not to have posted photos from progress recently, unfortunately I experienced a rather busy period with very little time for modelling leave alone for taking photos.
This is what the Nieuport looks like now. I have to admit I am rather disappointed of the result, but this build has turned into a hard struggle and I am sort of happy that it is a sesquiplane looking approximately like a Nie XI.
The only good news is that the rigging method using elastic monofilament could be a way for the future if I find a method to create turnbuckles that are to scale - these ones are brutally thick.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0225_zpstshpewyd.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0225_zpstshpewyd.jpg.html)
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0234_zpsafj1xqid.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0234_zpsafj1xqid.jpg.html)
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0233_zpsbjhnxrcp.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0233_zpsbjhnxrcp.jpg.html)
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0229_zpsahgkffze.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0229_zpsahgkffze.jpg.html)
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0227_zpsfpyjsezm.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0227_zpsfpyjsezm.jpg.html)
The only things to add are propeller and machine gun, the MG looks like this.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0237_zpsntllqval.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0237_zpsntllqval.jpg.html)
Cheers
Ondra
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Very great work.
Martin
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Exceptionally good work Ondra, it is still hard to believe that this wonderful looking model is in 1:144 scale, well done.
Des.
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Ondra, I know you're not please (few of us are with our work), but considering the scale, that it is scratch-built, etc. I think it looks great.
Warren
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Ondra,
Lovely Nieuport! Your build has been great to follow as always with your TINY models!
RAGIII
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If this model disappoints you, my mind boggles at what you'd consider satisfactory - this is a wonderful little Bebe! The fact you rigged it, too, is spectacular.
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Many thanks for your nice comments, Martin, Des, Warren, Rick and Kiwizac.
Nieuport is finished now, I am not very happy about the result but still there are a few things I like about this build.
The rigging with elastic monofilament from Uschi van der Rosten looks satisfactory and could be the way for the future.
Also I am satisfied with the machine gun and the propeller - it looks rather red on the photo, actually it looks like mahagony.
All in all, the quality is lower in comparison with e. g. the Brandenburg D.I I built before. Nevertheless, another finished build in the showcase (nr. 15) and time to start on a new one hoping for a better result.
Many thanks to all of you for your support and advices during the build.
Cheers
Ondra
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0249_zpsivlvande.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0249_zpsivlvande.jpg.html)
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0247_zps2ah5e19y.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0247_zps2ah5e19y.jpg.html)
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0243_zps3dnymdgl.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0243_zps3dnymdgl.jpg.html)
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0242_zpsrqko8cog.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0242_zpsrqko8cog.jpg.html)
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/ondrejmokry/IMG_0241_zpsy3lkr3iy.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/ondrejmokry/media/IMG_0241_zpsy3lkr3iy.jpg.html)
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Beautiful work Ondra! It still amazes me that you get so much into such a SMALL Model!
RAGIII
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I still think it looks great Ondra.
Warren
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Very wonderful work Ondra.
Martin