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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: RAGIII on October 09, 2013, 12:23:15 PM
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I am now working on the WNW Fokker DVIIF. The scheme will be Erich Lowenhardts DVIIF. As Greg van Wyngarden Termed it, this is a reconstruction based on eye witness accounts. I will be using Avaittics Decals for the Wing and reversed interior Lozenge.
RAGIII
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Here are the Reference Material and Scheme. I have done some cockpit work and will post pictures Tomorrow.
RAGIII
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Great stuff Rick ;D
You can't have enough Fokker builds! The yellow should lend itself nicely to some subtle weathering..
Guy
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I'm looking forward to following your build, Rick. With your ability, it will be great!
I totally agree with Guy. Onward and upward, my friend!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Fantastic subject, Rick! I'm really looking forward to those cockpit photos.
Cheers,
Bud
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Oh is going to happen I'm waiting for the update :D
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Hi Rick,
very nice choice, looking forward to your build. A lot of good reference material.
greetings ro
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I wasn't going to post until later when I had time to properly set up better lighting. I changed my mind after my FIRST use of the Aviattic's Reversed Lozenge decals! These are the first of this Newer Transparent type of decal I have used. I have seen photos, read accounts of their use, etc. but I didn't really understand until I wet the decal and slid it off of the paper! WOW! One thing I now know, I will have to be VERY subtle when doing preshading of the wings. I will take more photos in better light later.
RAGIII
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Those decals are really neat and quite the biz 8)
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Those decals are really neat and quite the biz 8)
Thanks Kevin. Just a little more about my experience with these. I was warned by my Friend Ira Campbell that these were Pre- Production versions, ( Not on the Final Paper), and that I would be literally peeling them off. Well, the truth is they slid right off of the paper backing and were VERY easy to move around and position. I couldn't be more pleased :) IMHO the texture is perfect!
RAGIII
PS: I forgot to thank all of you who responded with encouragement and well wishes for my build. THANK YOU!
RAGIII
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The decals are really something, Rick. I don't think you could ask
for a more realistic look. Carry on with the great work!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Here are more pics:
RAGIII
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and a few more:
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Great start RAG.
The cockpit looks awesome... very nicely achieved, together with the interior decals coulnd't be any better.
Cheers
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You are just motoring along Rick. Are the interior bits just press-fit? Will you add the rigging to the interior?
Those decals are just the bomb. I can see selling off some stash just to add some funding towards decals like these.
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Hi Rick,
I will be following this one. You made a great start!
Kind regards
Patrick
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An excellent start Rick and those reverse lozenge decals look fantastic, you have also done a great job with the interior.
Des.
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Wow, you're making terrific progress, Rick. Excellent job on the interior.
You have very good attention to detail. Thanks for sharing your work...this
is fun seeing what your talent can bring to life!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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The decals are really something, Rick. I don't think you could ask
for a more realistic look. Carry on with the great work!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Thanks Ernie it is nice having you along on this one !
RAGIII
Great start RAG.
The cockpit looks awesome... very nicely achieved, together with the interior decals coulnd't be any better.
Cheers
Thanks Zabu, I appreciate your comments
RAGIII
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You are just motoring along Rick. Are the interior bits just press-fit? Will you add the rigging to the interior?
Those decals are just the bomb. I can see selling off some stash just to add some funding towards decals like these.
Thanks Mike, and yes just press fit right now. I will add the rigging for the Framework, instrument dial face, and a couple of wires still needed on the stick ;D
RAGIII
Hi Rick,
I will be following this one. You made a great start!
Kind regards
Patrick
Thanks Patrick, your encouragement is appreciated!
RAGIII
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An excellent start Rick and those reverse lozenge decals look fantastic, you have also done a great job with the interior.
Des.
Thank you Des. The decals are awesome, I am looking forward to using the wing Decals now!
RAGIII
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Hi Rick,
stunning work on the interior, those decals are amazing. It reminds me on Uschi's decals where you also have to take attention about the right color and pre shading. Do you have to cut them to the right size before applying?
Thanks for sharing your pics, looking forward.
greetings ro
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Coming along nicely Rick!
Remember, soak backing paper in warm water, let decals slide off paper - don't force them - and apply to wetted gloss white surface, then tease out bubbles.
Looking forward to your next posting!
Regards, Richard (see also "Hints and Tips" page of our website www.aviattic.co.uk)
Thanks Richard for the Tips! I experimented with a VERY light beige, almost white. For the wings I am going with the recommended gloss white with a little(very little) rib pre shading. Like I said, even on the Pre Production Paper, the decals slid off onto the wetted surface with no problems.
RAGIII
Hi Rick,
stunning work on the interior, those decals are amazing. It reminds me on Uschi's decals where you also have to take attention about the right color and pre shading. Do you have to cut them to the right size before applying?
Thanks for sharing your pics, looking forward.
greetings ro
Aviattic/Richard has many different offerings including Cookie cutter decals for the wings of the DVII ( I will be using those). As for the interior I used the WNW decals as a pattern to cut them to shape!
RAGIII
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I simply love the loz in the cockpit RAGIII it looks great!!!!
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Brilliant work on the cockpit, Rick. Richard's decals are truly amazing.
Cheers,
Bud
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Lozenge came out fantastic !
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Some fantastic work there. I shall enjoy watching this progress (and hopefully learning at the same time.
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I simply love the loz in the cockpit RAGIII it looks great!!!!
Thanks but I have done nothing special with the Interior Lozenge, The Aviattic decals are excellent and EASY to use! I am working on finishing the pit, next day or two! Just found out I am on Vacation this week ;D ........ So I should be progressing a lot this week!!
RAGIII
Lozenge came out fantastic !
Jacek, Thanks but see above 8)
RAGIII
Brilliant work on the cockpit, Rick. Richard's decals are truly amazing.
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks Bud, I agree about Richards Decals!!
RAGIII
Some fantastic work there. I shall enjoy watching this progress (and hopefully learning at the same time.
Thank You for your comments and Encouragement!
RAGIII
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Hi Rick:
I am getting back into the forum as the weather is heading south and the motorcycle is all but put away. I have a stalled DVII on the bench and your work is inspiring me to get back at it. As always Rick, your work is stellar and the Aviatic decals, well, they look great! So many great aftermarket products now for the 1/32nd WWI Modeler. I will be following your build and look forward to your updates.
Best
Mark
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Rick,
You and Bud are really progressing, I'm lagging way behind, have not even started one of these yet as have 2 "other" projects in the queque.
Amigo 3
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Hi Rick:
I am getting back into the forum as the weather is heading south and the motorcycle is all but put away. I have a stalled DVII on the bench and your work is inspiring me to get back at it. As always Rick, your work is stellar and the Aviatic decals, well, they look great! So many great aftermarket products now for the 1/32nd WWI Modeler. I will be following your build and look forward to your updates.
Best
Mark
Thanks Mark. Your interest and support are always appreciated!
RAGIII
Rick,
You and Bud are really progressing, I'm lagging way behind, have not even started one of these yet as have 2 "other" projects in the queque.
Amigo 3
Thanks amigo 8) This kit really lends itself to relatively quick building.... unless you are detailing like Bo ;D
RAGIII
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I got a little carried away with construction and didn't take any photos of the panel before installation :-[ That being said, a little touch up on the seat and the fuselage gets joined today.
RAGIII
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PS: Also noticed a little touch up/re- gluing needed on the framework when I looked at the photos........ took care of that right away.
RAGIII
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If all goes well with the remainder of my build and time allows I will be using this figure with my DVII:
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Manta Figurines Latest release,
RAGIII
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Wonderful job on the cockpit, Rick, and your choice for the
flyer to accompany the Fokker is first rate. I'm enjoying your
build, my friend...looking forward to the next update.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Wonderful job on the cockpit, Rick, and your choice for the
flyer to accompany the Fokker is first rate. I'm enjoying your
build, my friend...looking forward to the next update.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Thanks for the Comments and Support Ernie!
RAGIII
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I am really looking forward to yourself painting the pilot's figure. Choosing the mantafigurines one was a very good decision as this pilot goes rather well with your Fokker.
Stefan
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I am really looking forward to yourself painting the pilot's figure. Choosing the mantafigurines one was a very good decision as this pilot goes rather well with your Fokker.
Stefan
Thanks Stefan. The figure is nicely sculpted. Eventually I may also use the Kellrkind Mechanic with the Heinecke chute to augment the Pilot..... We shall see ???
RAGIII
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Hi Rick,
Your cockpit is wonderfull and the instrument panel looks really great!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hi Rick,
Your cockpit is wonderfull and the instrument panel looks really great!
Kind regards
Patrick
Thanks Patrick! I truly appreciate your comments. I have progressed since the last photos. I have added some wrinkles to the fuselage side using my usual technique of Delta Ceramicoat acrylics, and have primed the fuselage in order to apply the WNW Lozenge. This will of course be painted over with Yellow!
RAGIII
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I have assembled the fuselage and applied the WNW Lozenge. The nose panel and radiator were difficult to align, more so than my first WNW early Fokker Built DVII. I don't know if others had this issue but the part numbers for the lower fuselage panel and radiator,side panels etc. DID NOT Match the Numbers on the sprues? In the end I looked at the parts not for use and used the ones in the right positions.
RAGIII
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Gorgeous work, Rick. You did a brilliant job with the lozenge application. Looking forward to seeing it painted over with yellow.
Cheers,
Bud
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Gorgeous work, Rick. You did a brilliant job with the lozenge application. Looking forward to seeing it painted over with yellow.
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks Bud! This is pretty standard WNW cookie cutter stuff. The colors are not that good but a tone down helps. Fortunately with the over paint a little bright is ok!
RAGIII
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Very nice decaling, a perfect job for the lighter tone of yellow to be quite smooth.
Cheers
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Very nice decaling, a perfect job for the lighter tone of yellow to be quite smooth.
Cheers
dittos to the above, await the next pics !
ED
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Beautiful work, Rick. If my models come out as good as yours, I would
be some proud! Lovely job and I look forward to the next photos. They
will be a great reference when I finally get to my D.VII.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Very nice decaling, a perfect job for the lighter tone of yellow to be quite smooth.
Cheers
Thanks Zabu! Yes the lozenge decals are a nice surface for the Yellow overspray!
RAGIIIVery nice decaling, a perfect job for the lighter tone of yellow to be quite smooth.
Cheers
dittos to the above, await the next pics !
ED
Thanks Amigo #1! I have started a little of the overspray.... Pics later.
RAGIIIBeautiful work, Rick. If my models come out as good as yours, I would
be some proud! Lovely job and I look forward to the next photos. They
will be a great reference when I finally get to my D.VII.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Ernie,
Thanks for your overgenerous and somewhat modest comments! Your Nieuport is excellent and you need not play second Fiddle to anyone!
RAGIII
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Here are some photos of where I am today. I painted all of the Nose panels yellow prior to assembling. I will mask around the upper portion of the side panels and shoot one more coat on the sides. In addition I figured while I was painting the panels why not lay down an initial coat on the tail. I figure one more coat will get me where I want on the overspray? Opinions? Upper tail is what I am asking... The paint is Mister Kit Jasta 10 Yellow. I plan to use acouple of others as well.
RAGIII
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Oh, my! That's beautiful, Amigo! That Mr Kit Yellow looks just right.
Cheers,
Bud
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Great work with the paint Rick, it looks excellent.
Des.
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Hello Rick,
Your painting is magnificent and so well done. It's going to be a beauty!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Decaling and painting are superb.
Adam.
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Wow! Rick, this is going to be a dandy. Your paintwork looks just right. It
is such fun watching a model come together in the hands of such a talented
modeller. Thank you for your artistry, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Way cool Rick! Keep going. ;D I love the yellow!
Regards,
Bob
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Very convincing paint job, indeed, with the losenge overpainted with yellow. Looking forward to see more.
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RAGIII,
Looking great - your making good progress!
Regards
Dave
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Looking good!
Cheers
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Oh, my! That's beautiful, Amigo! That Mr Kit Yellow looks just right.
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks Amigo #1! I like the Mister kit paint, and also My OLD Monogram Pro Modeler Yellow, which I plan to use also for a slight variation. I am also going to do some Pre Shading with Tamiya smoke.... I hope it goes well
RAGIII
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Great work with the paint Rick, it looks excellent.
Des.
Thanks Des, I appreciate your comments and interest! Thanks also to Patrick, Ernie, Bob, Prez, Dave, and Zabu! You may not realize how important of an inspiration all of your comments (and your own build threads) are! You all are a CONSTANT inspiration!!
RAGIII
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Dittos to the above, lookin' good Amigo!!!
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Thanks My Amigo, I am busy gluing panels on the lower fuselage and finding several glitches I have created. All in all sometimes I miss the days of gluing two fuselage halves together around an engine of sorts and calling it good :o
RAGIII
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. All in all sometimes I miss the days of gluing two fuselage halves together around an engine of sorts and calling it good :o
RAGIII
Tell me about, Amigo!
Cheers,
Bud
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. All in all sometimes I miss the days of gluing two fuselage halves together around an engine of sorts and calling it good :o
RAGIII
Tell me about, Amigo!
Cheers,
Bud
I think I finally wrestled all of the panels into place, more or less :-\ I have also painted the entire fuselage with it's yellow coat of paint. Next a little work with pastels for shading and then the final coat of yellow. I will take some photos later today of the fuselage before the weathering.
RAGIII
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Hi Rick,
As Bob already said, the yellow is very nice. It's a lovely build, I like it very much and very well done as Always.
Kind regards
Patrick
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I will take some photos later today of the fuselage before the weathering.
Yes please. I really hope the Flugzeugstoff can be seen through the yellow.
Stefan
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Hi Rick,
As Bob already said, the yellow is very nice. It's a lovely build, I like it very much and very well done as Always.
Kind regards
Patrick
Thanks Patrick, Your comments and following of my build are appreciated very much!
RAGIII
I will take some photos later today of the fuselage before the weathering.
Yes please. I really hope the Flugzeugstoff can be seen through the yellow.
Stefan
Thanks Stefan! Yes right now more Lozenge is showing than I think I want. It is hard to tell from the photos but in REAL bright light almost the whole pattern still shows. I am going to have to be very careful drawing the line between too much and too little!
RAGIII
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Here are the promised Photos:
Before weathering and a final coat of yellow.
RAGIII
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Funny thing, the lighter but brighter lozenge is harder to cover than the darker uppersurface color....
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It looks really good! Keep up the good work! I think yellow is a really hard colour to work with.
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It looks really good! Keep up the good work! I think yellow is a really hard colour to work with.
Thanks, I appreciate your feedback! Yellow is certainly interesting. for one thing every flaw in the surface shows! Something to remember for future builds!!
RAGIII
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I really like the tonal differences between the (metal) cowling panels and the (fabric) fuselage.
Stefan
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Good work, Rick! I appreciate how difficult the yellow is to work with. Thanks for the
caution about it. You are certainly pulling it off wonderfully. The way the lozenge shows
underneath is great. I look forward to more of this build, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Hi Rick,
Since I looked at the overpainted lozenge of Bud and yourself, I new world opened for me. Fantastic work. Your artists all the way!
Kind regards
Patrick
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I really like the tonal differences between the (metal) cowling panels and the (fabric) fuselage.
Stefan
Thanks again Stefan! Strange thing is that the tones were created by the differences of painting over the Lozenge Decals and the Plastic panels with the same paint!
RAGIII
Good work, Rick! I appreciate how difficult the yellow is to work with. Thanks for the
caution about it. You are certainly pulling it off wonderfully. The way the lozenge shows
underneath is great. I look forward to more of this build, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Thanks Ernie! I really appreciate how you have been following my builds! Since posting the pics you are commenting on I have applied some rib/weathering/shading, and a final coat of yellow. Harder to pick up the Lozenge in the newest pics( I will Post Later), but I can assure you that the subtle show through is there. I got VERY Close to what I was after!!
RAGIII
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Hi Rick,
Since I looked at the overpainted lozenge of Bud and yourself, I new world opened for me. Fantastic work. Your artists all the way!
Kind regards
Patrick
Thank you Patrick, whenever I am mentioned in the same sentence with Bud I consider it HIGH praise indeed!
RAGIII
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Hi, Rick,
Super work on this project, my friend! And I certainly appreciate your comments on the interior lozenge from Aviattic. I plan to purchase loz from them for my DVII when I'm at the UK Nats late next week, and I certainly am happy to hear that you had such good results with them! 8)
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Here are the latest pics: I have weathered a little, some fuselage shading and tail surfaces as stated in my reply to Ernie. The Lozenge See Through effect is there but you really have to look hard 8) I think that when I actually set up my lighting for better pictures it will be just a little more readily visible!
RAGIII
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Simply gorgeous, Rick! The preshading and the yellow are masterfully done.
Cheers,
Bud
Hi Rick,
Since I looked at the overpainted lozenge of Bud and yourself, I new world opened for me. Fantastic work. Your artists all the way!
Kind regards
Patrick
Thank you Patrick, whenever I am mentioned in the same sentence with Bud I consider it HIGH praise indeed!
RAGIII
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Absolutely wonderful paint job.
The lozenge under the yellow paint making some diferent tones gives it a fantastic look Rick.
Very nice indeed.
Cheers
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Hi, Rick,
Super work on this project, my friend! And I certainly appreciate your comments on the interior lozenge from Aviattic. I plan to purchase loz from them for my DVII when I'm at the UK Nats late next week, and I certainly am happy to hear that you had such good results with them! 8)
Thanks Gary! The Lozenge was indeed very easy to work with. I am expecting the Aviattic Lozenge for my wings soon! Have fun at the Nats!
RAGIII
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Simply gorgeous, Rick! The preshading and the yellow are masterfully done.
Cheers,
Bud
Hi Rick,
Since I looked at the overpainted lozenge of Bud and yourself, I new world opened for me. Fantastic work. Your artists all the way!
Kind regards
Patrick
Thank you Patrick, whenever I am mentioned in the same sentence with Bud I consider it HIGH praise indeed!
RAGIII
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Thanks Bud, I appreciate your comments greatly. Following your build is pushing me to try different techniques and is raising the bar for my build ;D
RAGIII
Absolutely wonderful paint job.
The lozenge under the yellow paint making some diferent tones gives it a fantastic look Rick.
Very nice indeed.
Cheers
Thanks Zabu,
It was difficult choosing WHEN to stop painting! I think I got the overpaint right where I wanted it in the end....
RAGIII
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RAGIII,
Your over spray is perfect; finding the "just right" degree of overspray without losing the under finish is a delicate task, you've really aced it!
Cheers,
Lance
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Rick,
I believe your over spray of the lozenge is as close to perfection as you can get. Well Done my old friend. Your right about that knowing WHEN to quit painting thing. Whenever I've tried for the same affect in the past I never came anywhere close as you have.Looking forward to more outstanding updates .
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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RAGIII,
Your over spray is perfect; finding the "just right" degree of overspray without losing the under finish is a delicate task, you've really aced it!
Cheers,
Lance
Lance, thanks so much for your comments! I really appreciate your support and understanding of the process!
RAGIII
Rick,
I believe your over spray of the lozenge is as close to perfection as you can get. Well Done my old friend. Your right about that knowing WHEN to quit painting thing. Whenever I've tried for the same affect in the past I never came anywhere close as you have.Looking forward to more outstanding updates .
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Gregory, Always great to get compliments and approval from you my old friend! It is kind of ironic when I think about where the Hobby has gone over the last few years. A VERY TALENTED WW1 MODELERS Listee, Shane Weir, did this scheme soon after Rodens original release of the DVII. At a contest in Australia he was told that he should have used a different yellow as the yellow artist oils he used were too translucent! :-X
RAGIII
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Gregory, Always great to get compliments and approval from you my old friend! It is kind of ironic when I think about where the Hobby has gone over the last few years. A VERY TALENTED WW1 MODELERS Listee, Shane Weir, did this scheme soon after Rodens original release of the DVII. At a contest in Australia he was told that he should have used a different yellow as the yellow artist oils he used were too translucent! :-X
RAGIII
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Well typical of the Paint Nazi mentality, and probably by a fellow who knows even less than a snail about WWI to boot.
Looks really good to me !!!
Ed
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The paint I can only describe as wonderful, Rick. I almost had to strain to
see the lozenge underneath, but yep, it's there alright. ;) ;D I would think
in the flesh it would look even better, if that is possible. If, whenever I try
a technique such as this I do half as well as you have, I will be ecstatic!
Thank you my friend for sharing this beauty. I look forward to the next phase.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Gregory, Always great to get compliments and approval from you my old friend! It is kind of ironic when I think about where the Hobby has gone over the last few years. A VERY TALENTED WW1 MODELERS Listee, Shane Weir, did this scheme soon after Rodens original release of the DVII. At a contest in Australia he was told that he should have used a different yellow as the yellow artist oils he used were too translucent! :-X
RAGIII
Well typical of the Paint Nazi mentality, and probably by a fellow who knows even less than a snail about WWI to boot.
Looks really good to me !!!
Ed
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Thanks Ed, your comments are appreciated greatly!
RAGIII
The paint I can only describe as wonderful, Rick. I almost had to strain to
see the lozenge underneath, but yep, it's there alright. ;) ;D I would think
in the flesh it would look even better, if that is possible. If, whenever I try
a technique such as this I do half as well as you have, I will be ecstatic!
Thank you my friend for sharing this beauty. I look forward to the next phase.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Ernie,
I do appreciate your enthusiasm and comments for my build! I am sure that you have the right stuff to do an overspray just fine!
RAGIII
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I have built the Spandaus, glued them on and added the crosses. Having sudden unexpected Camera problems so the pics aren't quite what I want: Also Experimenting with Aviattic 5 color Lozenge on an Albie wing while waiting for my DVII Lozenge. I used artists oils burnt sienna along the ribs, rubbed it into the surface then applied the decals. Any suggestions appreciated.
RAGIII
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The decals were sent to me courtesy of Ira Campbell
Authorized North American distributer for Aviattic Products:
Doghouse Down
P.O, Box 13033
Arlington, TX 76094
[email protected]
facebook.com/doghousedown
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Posting this because I don't know what is going on with my camera. I get clear photos but no color intensity?
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PS: I decided to add this one because it actually looks fairly good.
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Looks absolutely lovely, RAGIII -
Your yellow shading looks spot on and looks sharp with some decals on. Getting closer to the finishing line?
Regards
Dave
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She's looking absolutely gorgeous Rick, the yellow colour is superb and with just a hint of the lozenge showing through is brilliant, this is shaping up to be a real show stopper.
Des.
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Hi Rick,
Looks really marvellous. I took the liberty (just to help) trying to change a bit your contrast, but as your picture is already jpeg, can't change too much on it. Are you shure you didn't change your settings on your camera? Or have you meanwhile solved your problem? So I can't help.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Making great progress, Rick. When you are done it will be a stunner!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Hi Rick,
Yep, really nice translucent yellow - looks just right..
Guy
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Hi Rick,
Yep, really nice translucent yellow - looks just right..
Guy
Dittos, looks good here too !
Ed
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Looks absolutely lovely, RAGIII -
Your yellow shading looks spot on and looks sharp with some decals on. Getting closer to the finishing line?
Regards
Dave
Dave, thanks for your comment! Yes very close in some ways. I just need to get the wings decalled and attached. After the interior and Fuselage are done on this kit there really is not much left to do! I have painted the prop and will get the landing gear and axle wing done in the next couple of days.... hopefully
RAGIII
She's looking absolutely gorgeous Rick, the yellow colour is superb and with just a hint of the lozenge showing through is brilliant, this is shaping up to be a real show stopper.
Des.
Des,
Thank you very much! As always any compliment from a Modeler of your caliber is an incentive to keep going and try to excel!
RAGIIIHi Rick,
Yep, really nice translucent yellow - looks just right..
Guy
Gut,
I greatly appreciate your comment and interest in following my build!
RAGIII
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Hi Rick,
Yep, really nice translucent yellow - looks just right..
Guy
Dittos, looks good here too !
Ed
Thanks Ed! Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
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Looks perfect.
Realy great stuff Rick. Congrats on such a fine job.
About the camera...looks like the wrong white balance.(?)
Cheers
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Looks perfect.
Realy great stuff Rick. Congrats on such a fine job.
About the camera...looks like the wrong white balance.(?)
Cheers
First, Thanks for the positive feedback on the build! It is greatly appreciated!! Second, yes, there seems to have been a disruption in the white balance! I have no Idea WHY? I am re-posting another photo taken in the same session as those that showed the white back ground as grey, white and had a blue fuzzy haze on the edge of the model. It seems this one is OK?
Has color intensity and the back ground is white, go figure
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The photo looks great, Rick, as does the model. I cant wait to see the wings on her.
Cheers,
Bud
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The photo looks great, Rick, as does the model. I cant wait to see the wings on her.
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks Bud! I am looking forward to the next update on your excellent DVII build! Here is a small update for mine. As No known photos exist showing the prop on this bird I plan to paint both options supplied and then choose the best. Here is the first:
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RAGIII
PS: SAME WHITE BACK Ground ?
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Hi Rick,
Glad your camera problems are over. What a beautiful propeller you made! It certainly matches the whole build you made. Really awesome. Many congratulations!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hi Rick, regarding your white balance woes -- digital cameras can be pretty awful at guessing what temperature the lighting is in AWB (auto white balance) mode -- as you have discovered.
If you can manually override AWB on your camera, do so, otherwise you need to trick the camera into using a neutral reference for the WB.
This tutorial (http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/white-balance.htm) might help...
Cheers
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Hi Rick,
Glad your camera problems are over. What a beautiful propeller you made! It certainly matches the whole build you made. Really awesome. Many congratulations!
Kind regards
Patrick
Patrick,
Thanks for the compliment! It is greatly appreciated! as for the Camera read the next post,
RAGIII
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Hi Rick, regarding your white balance woes -- digital cameras can be pretty awful at guessing what temperature the lighting is in AWB (auto white balance) mode -- as you have discovered.
If you can manually override AWB on your camera, do so, otherwise you need to trick the camera into using a neutral reference for the WB.
This tutorial (http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/white-balance.htm) might help...
Cheers
Bo,
Thanks for the Link! Between the info in the Tutorial and reading a little of my Camera Booklet, I think I have hit on a setting,( Cloudy).
The first photo was on the Florescent setting:
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The second on the cloudy setting:
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RAGIII
PS: Sorry for posting yet more photos of the same progress.
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Definitely a huge improvement! :)
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Definitely a huge improvement! :)
Thanks Bo! I am continuing to experiment!!
RAGIII
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Hi Rick,
superb difference between fabric and metal parts.
Cheers,
Vladimir
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Thanks Vladimir! I greatly appreciate your comment!I have made very slight progress. More photos later or perhaps tomorrow night
RAGIII
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Anxious to see your next photos, Rick. You do good work!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Hi Rick,
Like Ernie I'm looking forward to see your next pictures. Can't wait.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Got this one in my stash, and I hope when I get around to it
I make as great a job as you . . . I havent attempted lozenge
decals yet, so Im watching you closely . . Great work 8)
Dave
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Hello Rick:
I am just now catching up on your build. I think you have done an outstanding job with the yellow. You can see the lozenge through the overspray but it isn't overwhelming. It looks just right. Yellow is one of those colors, (a primary color) like red that if not done right tends to look toy like. You have done well and it certainly doesn't look toy like. It looks like a simple scheme but is quite difficult to pull off. I can't make out the subtle weathering you have done due to your camera difficulties but I can make out some rib details etc. I am working on the DVII F at this time as well and am about four pages behind you, so I will be watching your build as you progress.
Best
Mark
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Anxious to see your next photos, Rick. You do good work!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Thanks Ernie, Taking a little longer than I thought. The fin for some reason gave me fits. Ended up removing the paint(and Lozenge twice). I finally left off the lozenge and sprayed a straight yellow. I will go back with some cadmium yellow oil to simulate the lozenge beneath. The fin and rudder are attached now and the cross is on. More tomorrow.
RAGIII
Hi Rick,
Like Ernie I'm looking forward to see your next pictures. Can't wait.
Kind regards
Patrick
Thanks Patrick!
RAGIII
Got this one in my stash, and I hope when I get around to it
I make as great a job as you . . . I havent attempted lozenge
decals yet, so Im watching you closely . . Great work 8)
Dave
Dave,
I am sure you will be more than up for the challenge! I am still debating whether to pre or post shade my lozenge on the wings. Right now I am leaning towards pre :-\
RAGIII
Hello Rick:
I am just now catching up on your build. I think you have done an outstanding job with the yellow. You can see the lozenge through the overspray but it isn't overwhelming. It looks just right. Yellow is one of those colors, (a primary color) like red that if not done right tends to look toy like. You have done well and it certainly doesn't look toy like. It looks like a simple scheme but is quite difficult to pull off. I can't make out the subtle weathering you have done due to your camera difficulties but I can make out some rib details etc. I am working on the DVII F at this time as well and am about four pages behind you, so I will be watching your build as you progress.
Best
Mark
Mark, Thanks for the comments! Yes the yellow is an interesting color to use in an overpaint! As I said earlier, deciding when to stop painting is the key! I am Looking forward to seeing your build!!
RAGIII
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This scheme is really going to stand out Rick, very effective. With my build rate I'll get to do my DVII in about 3 years...
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This scheme is really going to stand out Rick, very effective. With my build rate I'll get to do my DVII in about 3 years...
Thanks Ian, that is one reason I chose the scheme! As for build rate I could very well set a personal record for the last ten years or so. I have completed ,since January this year:
1. WNW Fokker DVII:Fok early
2. WNW Sopwith Triplane
3. Roden Nieuport 28 1/32nd
If I finish this one before December 31st that will be 4, yes FOUR finished in one year!
RAGIII
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Hi Rick,
About build rate, one must consider the rate of difficulty of the builds too, and also the grade of finishing which is always of high standard in your builds (e.g. your Nieuport) . So I think I will easely beat (downwards) your building speed. And look at the one your busy with : outstanding!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hi Rick,
About build rate, one must consider the rate of difficulty of the builds too, and also the grade of finishing which is always of high standard in your builds (e.g. your Nieuport) . So I think I will easely beat (downwards) your building speed. And look at the one your busy with : outstanding!
Kind regards
Patrick
Thanks Patrick! I have made some progress and My Aviattic Lozenge( Fokker Built Cookie Cutter) decals arrived today! :D So now a question. Those that have used Aviattic decals, Should I pre shade?, Use pastels? Oil washes along the ribs like the DVa pictures I posted earlier? What have you had success with? Let me know!
RAGIII
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I have done the preshading using Artists Oils. My method is straight forward. Mix 50/50 Mars Black and Burnt Sienna. With a small pointed brush make a line or dots next to the rib edge. Wipe running parallel to the rib, ( this gives an edge to the rib) then rub away excess going across the rib. This outlines the ribs and adds just a touch of color between. The pictures show the process. The final pictures show the wings glossed and ready for the decals.
RAGIII
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(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20DVIIF/dviipreshade019_zpsce681967.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20DVIIF/dviipreshade019_zpsce681967.jpg.html)
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Looking forward to seeing how this (great looking) pre-shading looks when the decals go on. I have some Aviattic lozenge too, so I watch with interest!
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Awesome preshading technique, amigo! Gonna have to give that one a try. What's the drying time on the oils?
Cheers,
Bud
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What a nice build! Loads of useful tips too.
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Looking forward to seeing how this (great looking) pre-shading looks when the decals go on. I have some Aviattic lozenge too, so I watch with interest!
Thanks Ian. I am getting ready to post some pictures of the lower Lozenge. You will see that I found I had been TOO SUBTLE ! Did not account for the width of the rib tape on the cookie cutter sheet, so not much shows although it is there. I went ahead with both the upper and lower wing undersurfaces for consistency. I then went back and got a LOT bolder with my method for the upper surfaces. We will see how that goes tomorrow or in a couple of days.
RAGIII
Awesome preshading technique, amigo! Gonna have to give that one a try. What's the drying time on the oils?
Cheers,
Bud
Read the above ???
RAGIII
What a nice build! Loads of useful tips too.
Thanks Rob, I appreciate you dropping in and the kind comment!
RAGIII
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Here are pictures of the lower lozenge. Too subtle on the shading so I changed to a less conservative approach for the uppers.
RAGIII
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(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNWDVIIF/preshadeandlozenge009_zps2bb9a17d.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNWDVIIF/preshadeandlozenge009_zps2bb9a17d.jpg.html)
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNWDVIIF/preshadeandlozenge008_zps470503c1.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNWDVIIF/preshadeandlozenge008_zps470503c1.jpg.html)
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNWDVIIF/preshadeandlozenge011_zpsb265ce37.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNWDVIIF/preshadeandlozenge011_zpsb265ce37.jpg.html)
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNWDVIIF/preshadeandlozenge007_zps5334d568.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNWDVIIF/preshadeandlozenge007_zps5334d568.jpg.html)
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The lozenge looks fantastic, Rick.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hello Rick,
Looking really fantastic. I must admit that at first I didn't like that much the lozenge, but now after seeing what you all do with that I must say I like it more and more. Your doing a great job Rick. Many congratulations and I look forward to see new pictures.
Kind regards
Patrick
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I think you have it right with the upper wing shading, Rick. The lower
was very good but kind of lost when the lozenge went on. I think the top will
look just the ticket when all is said and done. Do you plan on darkening
the lower shadows any more, or leave as is?
Needless to say your build is very enjoyable to follow. Well done, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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The lozenge looks fantastic, Rick.
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks Bud! I appreciate your support.
RAGIII
Hello Rick,
Looking really fantastic. I must admit that at first I didn't like that much the lozenge, but now after seeing what you all do with that I must say I like it more and more. Your doing a great job Rick. Many congratulations and I look forward to see new pictures.
Kind regards
Patrick
Thanks! Lozenge is really pretty cool, and thanks to Companies like Aviattic we now have top quality decals with excellent colors!!
RAGIII
I think you have it right with the upper wing shading, Rick. The lower
was very good but kind of lost when the lozenge went on. I think the top will
look just the ticket when all is said and done. Do you plan on darkening
the lower shadows any more, or leave as is?
Needless to say your build is very enjoyable to follow. Well done, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Thanks Ernie! I am going to post some pictures of the uppers. I am quite Happy with the change and results!!
RAGIII
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Here is the Upper surface Lozenge applied to the wings.. I still have to trim and touch up , also finish the Upper wing.
RAGIII
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(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20DVIIF/dvii002_zps6fe88f48.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20DVIIF/dvii002_zps6fe88f48.jpg.html)
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20DVIIF/dvii009_crop_zps8253173b.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20DVIIF/dvii009_crop_zps8253173b.jpg.html)
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20DVIIF/dvii016_zps6d9ff41d.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20DVIIF/dvii016_zps6d9ff41d.jpg.html)
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Oh my, Rick! Now that is lovely! The lozenge looks so good with the yellow. She's really coming together, now.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hi Rick,
Growing nicer and nicer. This is top modeling. I like it so much.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Great Rick,
The lozenge is perfect! I think you've nailed just the right amount of pre shading - not an easy thing to do!
Cheers
Guy
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Rick, you have certainly succeeded in getting a great effect with your pre-shading and the lozenge. I like it very much.
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Rick,
Magnificent works my old friend. I love the work you've done on the lozenge decalling.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Hello Rick: The preshading really shows up well on the upper wing and enhances the decal. Good on yer mate and thanks for the tips. Looking forward to the next update.
Best
Mark
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Rick,
This is an outstanding build. The complicated decaling and painting job you have done is truly amazing.
Phillip
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Holy cow, Rick, your model looks just super! The lozenge looks beautiful.
Really a first rate job!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Just catching up on this one. She's a great looking canary!!!!
Steve
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Thanks guys for all of your comments and interest! I have one more work day tomorrow and then 2 days to work on the DVII. I hope to get the wing mounted soon!
RAGIII
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Wow! Great work with the lozenge.
The yellow painting with the lozenge in the wings makes the model very eye catchy... superb Rag!
Cheers
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wooow...
you're doing a beautiful work on those wings!!!
I'm somewhat intimidated from the lozenge scheme, I save this wip as reference, if you don't mind. ;)
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Wow! Great work with the lozenge.
The yellow painting with the lozenge in the wings makes the model very eye catchy... superb Rag!
Cheers
Thanks Zabu I appreciate the comments! I think that the yellow is certainly an Eye Catcher, I am glad you agree!!
RAGIII
wooow...
you're doing a beautiful work on those wings!!!
I'm somewhat intimidated from the lozenge scheme, I save this wip as reference, if you don't mind. ;)
Do Not be intimidated by Lozenge! Aviattic has made this process very easy with their Cookie Cutter Sheets for the DVII. I might also add that the 4 and 5 color joined sheets also make applying Lozenge easier if not quite as easy as the Cookie Cutter approach!
RAGIII
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Hi RAGIII
I just wanted to add my congratulations on the convincing fuselage yellow. I've really struggled in the past to handle that particular colour, without it ending up like a bunch of daffodils or lemons.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Hi RAGIII
I just wanted to add my congratulations on the convincing fuselage yellow. I've really struggled in the past to handle that particular colour, without it ending up like a bunch of daffodils or lemons.
Best wishes
Nigel
Thanks Nigel, your comments are always appreciated! Here is a small update. Not a lot of progress(Spent a Lot of Time with My Gran daughter on my off days :D
RAGIII
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(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20DVIIF/wmwdvii018_zps7ca895a8.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20DVIIF/wmwdvii018_zps7ca895a8.jpg.html)
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20DVIIF/wmwdvii003_crop_zps70398670.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20DVIIF/wmwdvii003_crop_zps70398670.jpg.html)
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20DVIIF/wmwdvii007_zps6652c912.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20DVIIF/wmwdvii007_zps6652c912.jpg.html)
And the gear is now on:
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(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20DVIIF/wnwdvii002_zps0764929f.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20DVIIF/wnwdvii002_zps0764929f.jpg.html)
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Outstanding Rick. This is really a handsome bird. The wings are terrific. Decals are masterly applied. Great modeling!
Kind regards
Patrick
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She's really starting to look the business now, Rick. Better and better
all the time. You will have quite a striking model when you are done.
Wonderful work!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Great work so far, Rick
The lozenge on the upper wing looks spot on.
Regards
Dave
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Outstanding Rick. This is really a handsome bird. The wings are terrific. Decals are masterly applied. Great modeling!
Kind regards
Patrick
Patrick, thank you for your very Kind words and again for following my build! Aviattic has made the Lozenge very nice to work with!!
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She's really starting to look the business now, Rick. Better and better
all the time. You will have quite a striking model when you are done.
Wonderful work!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Thanks Ernie, I appreciate all of the support and encouragement! Finished soon.... I hope ???
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Great work so far, Rick
The lozenge on the upper wing looks spot on.
Regards
Dave
Thanks Dave, Your comments are always greatly appreciated!!
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Looks great Rick!
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really!
the wings pop up from the screen!!
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Rick,
Man do I love your lozenge decal work. Keep up the first class works my old friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Rick this model looks really great. One of the reasons I like the German offerings is for the interesting colour variations and this is a prime example...
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Looks great Rick!
Thanks Bo! I can't say enough about the Aviattic Decals! They are great to work with and the colors are spot on.
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really!
the wings pop up from the screen!!
Thanks! I appreciate your following my build.
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Rick,
Man do I love your lozenge decal work. Keep up the first class works my old friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Thanks Gregory! I always appreciate you looking in on my builds and your comments!
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Rick this model looks really great. One of the reasons I like the German offerings is for the interesting colour variations and this is a prime example...
Ian, I agree completely about the schemes! Yellow and Lozenge seem to make a particularly nice combination :)
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Looks really great Rick! I love yellow schemes, and you have nailed ths one.
Your airframe appears to sit level and well on the landing gear. I put the top wing on first, and I am having trouble getting my bird to st level. Should have followed the directions like you! ;) Maybe the rigging will help level her up. ;D. As you know, the scale thickness of the struts make them somewhat fragile.
I'm looking forward to seeing your bird with its top wing in place!
Regards,
Bob
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Looks really great Rick! I love yellow schemes, and you have nailed ths one.
Your airframe appears to sit level and well on the landing gear. I put the top wing on first, and I am having trouble getting my bird to st level. Should have followed the directions like you! ;) Maybe the rigging will help level her up. ;D. As you know, the scale thickness of the struts make them somewhat fragile.
I'm looking forward to seeing your bird with its top wing in place!
Regards,
Bob
Bob, First thanks for the compliment! Second....
I know what you mean by the struts being scale and fragile! I came very close to breaking an N strut on my first DVII build. As for the "Following Directions thing" that doesn't always work! On my first build I miss located the Struts from the gear that butt up against the Tripod struts. While attempting to fix/take off the gear, I broke the right front Landing gear strut. My DVII sits just a tad cock eyed and there is a very slight repair noticeable if one looks closely :-[
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Repair or no repair, your Fritz Friedrich Fokker looks very good. I think she is a nice companion to Löwenhardt's all yellow Fokker.
Stefan
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Despite what you say about repairs, this is a great piece of work RAG. I guess we all have our mishaps and are so close to the model being made that we are aware of blemishes and problems that others may never even notice. Woods and trees?
Best wishes
Nigel
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Hi Rick,
Absolutely marvellous bird. No repairs to be seen (tell me about struts, remember the SE5a). You did such a wonderful job. Great Rick!
Kind regards
Patrick
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What repairs, Rick? All I see is a beautiful model. The two D.VII's
will look amazing together. That, I'm waiting to see. Keep up the
good work, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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I have to say that you made a very good repair because i can't see it.
The model it's fantastic, love the look of it. Great modeling work.
Cheers
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Very sharp looking!! No repairs noticed.
Steve
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Thanks for all of the compliments on my first Fokker build! I have found the photo that shows the repair, actually on the Left front strut, not right! I am plugging along on the current build. Now doing some touch up, and finesse work on the wings before mounting the upper to the fuselage. Pictures later in the week, or so I hope!
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Hello Rick:
This is a tough bird to get to sit level. On my first I did it after 5 attempts. On the second it took three. It is a very neat aircraft and you did a great job on this one. I am starting on number three. Maybe I will get the thing to sit level the first go around. Outstanding work my friend.
Best
Mark
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I would echo the comments on getting the landing gear level on this kit - really tricky for some reason. I am in the same boat that hoping the rigging will true it up (and strengthen it - very wobbly right now)
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Hello Rick:
This is a tough bird to get to sit level. On my first I did it after 5 attempts. On the second it took three. It is a very neat aircraft and you did a great job on this one. I am starting on number three. Maybe I will get the thing to sit level the first go around. Outstanding work my friend.
Best
Mark
Mark, again you are correct! My current build seems to vary from one sitting ( Literally) to the next ???
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I would echo the comments on getting the landing gear level on this kit - really tricky for some reason. I am in the same boat that hoping the rigging will true it up (and strengthen it - very wobbly right now)
Yes a wobbly gear at best!
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Just as a small update I have Mounted the upper wing with little or no difficulty! I mounted the Tripod struts to the fuselage and the rear cabanes to the upper wing. I then attached the wing using liquid cement. When this had begun to set up I inserted the N Interplane Struts. Now all that is left is the many areas to be touched up, lift handles ,wind screen, and the rigging. I will post some pictures later.
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RAG III, will you fly with this aircraft?
I'm joking...
Great work, really!
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Here are the photos I promised earlier:
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This model looks superb topped off Rick, you can be delighted with your work :)
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Very fine work. Looking forward to the final steps!!
Steve
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Beautiful work Rick! Another very fine Fokker. ;D. Well done my friend!
Regards,
Bob
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What a wonderful build so far Rick, it's been a delight catching up with it ;)
Your log is/has been informative and inspiring.
Andrew
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Just a super job, Rick. She's looking really good...a very eye-catching
paint scheme. I've certainly enjoyed your informative build and look
forward to the final bits. Sweet little aeroplane! 8)
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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What a lovely piece of work Rick! It's a pleasure to view.
I always struggle with the colour yellow, outside certain-well defined shades such as that used by the RAF in WWII for leading edges, but you have done a magnificent job here.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Gorgeous, Rick! Almost finished. What a show stopper she's turning out to be.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hello Rick,
This is a joy for the eye. Wonderful build my friend. Many congratulations
Kind regards
Patrick
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This model looks superb topped off Rick, you can be delighted with your work :)
Ian,
Thanks for your compliment! I have progressed a bit in that I have started the MINOR rigging and attatched the tailplane struts. Could be done in a couple of days 8)
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Steve, Bob, Andrew, Ernie and Bud,
Thanks for your continued support! As I have said before it is support from my fellow modelers that keep me going!
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Like you Rick I get a lot of encouragement from the members which gives me the incentive to keep going. What you have done with your Fokker is amazing, the colours are so appealing and eye catching, I look forward to seeing the rigging fitted and the model completed, this is a real stunner.
Des.
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Thats really looking great - as with the others I agree that the yellow is perfect with just the slight amount of lozenge showing through
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Looking great Rick.
A little encouragement it's very few compared to the joy i get when seeing what many of our fellow modelers can achieve... and your model it's a very fine example of that. Model on.
Cheers
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Like you Rick I get a lot of encouragement from the members which gives me the incentive to keep going. What you have done with your Fokker is amazing, the colours are so appealing and eye catching, I look forward to seeing the rigging fitted and the model completed, this is a real stunner.
Des.
Thanks Des. I always appreciate you looking in on my builds!
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Thats really looking great - as with the others I agree that the yellow is perfect with just the slight amount of lozenge showing through
Thanks Petrov! I appreciate your comments!
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Looking great Rick.
A little encouragement it's very few compared to the joy i get when seeing what many of our fellow modelers can achieve... and your model it's a very fine example of that. Model on.
Cheers
Thanks Zabu! I have finished the construction and rigging on this one! Just a little final touch up and weathering to go!! I am not going to post further pictures here but will shoot the model and Post in Completed Models soon!
again I appreciate all who have followed and encouraged my build,
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OK, I know I said I wouldn't post any further pics here but.... I was doing some final work and the fuselage cracked behind the cockpit. I NEED some Mister Kit Jasta 10 Yellow to touch up the repair! Before I post in Completed Models I don't want the odd looking patch seen in the accompanying photos.
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Sorry to hear about the mishap Rick, but I am sure you will resolve this to your satisfaction.
This is an affliction I experience with almost every model - in making the final touches something breaks or goes wrong. This is why I wind up weathering when I hadn't planned to - hides a multitude of sins. Sometimes I decide to live with it - a slightly skew wing or undercarriage geometry may not be ideal but it is better to have a 90% "almost" model than a 100% broken one! I am not that good at getting it right first time.
Is this to be part of a diorama? If so, you could drape a map, or the pilot's coat etc over the area of concern?
However only you will know when you are happy with the build. Despite this minor setback, you still have an outstanding model there Rick...
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Hello Rick,
So sorry for you. I am sure you will recover that splendidly. What Ian said is so true for me too. 90% good can quickly degrade to a broken plane when trying to get it better. Yours is still looking fantastic and I like it very much. You have done a marvellous job Rick.
Kind regards
Patrick
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The broken joint or slight mis-alignment seems to afflict many of us - no less annoying for that though. That is a simply wonderful model with a superb finish: I am keeping my fingers crossed for you in the hope that you can rectify your problem but not cause another in the process. Keep trying as you are certain to succeed.
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Sorry to hear of the difficulty with the fuselage split - mine did exactly the same thing in the same spot. Next one I build I am going to somehow reinforce that area on the inside....
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Sorry to hear about the troubles Rick. With your talents, I bet you will have
a satisfactory fix before long. I'm wondering with others mentioning the
same problem, when I get to my D.VII, I should just use a bit of CA in that
area as a back up. She's still a stunner though, my friend!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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I have absolute confidence in your modeling skills, my Amigo. I know that when your finished, no evidence of this accident will remain.
Cheers,
Bud
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This sort of accidental damage happens. What matters is having the modelling skills to retrieve the situation and from what I've seen of your work, Rick, yours are top notch.
Best wishes
Nigel
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The rear bulkhead that the seat attaches to is a mighty tight fit - I will probably sand the heck out of the edges of that on the next build so that it is not stressing the join of the fuselage any....
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Thanks to everyone for the support and especially the confidence you have in my modeling skills 8)
This isn't a major catastrophe but it is an annoyance ! Matching the paint is my issue as I am COMPLETELY out of Misterkit Jasta 10 Yellow.
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Hello Rick:
I know your frustration and annoyance! You really want to get this one little piece fixed and you look, and there it is, that crack! Hopefully Mike at Mr. Kit will come through in rapid fashion and you can put this setback to rest. Best of luck with the repair.
Best
Mark
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Hello Rick:
I know your frustration and annoyance! You really want to get this one little piece fixed and you look, and there it is, that crack! Hopefully Mike at Mr. Kit will come through in rapid fashion and you can put this setback to rest. Best of luck with the repair.
Best
Mark
Ditto to the above Amigo,
ED