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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Des on February 11, 2013, 04:00:55 PM
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My kit arrived today so I have decided to get straight into it. I will be doing mine with the Soviet markings, just to be different. First look at the kit revealed another brilliant kit from Wingnuts, the amount of detail is outstanding, and the mouldings are very crisp, clean and free of any flash. The parts I have removed so far did not require any clean up at all and fitted their respective locations perfectly, I can see I am going to have a lot of fun building this model.
Des.
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Can we have pics of your build please Des.
Cheers
Pete.
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You sure can Pete as soon as I have something to show. I have only base coated the timber for the cockpit and will be adding the oil paints later tonight.
Des.
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Get a move on, Des! ;D
This should be a fun watch.
Cheers,
Bob
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I can't wait to see the results!
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Hello Des:
I am looking forward to seeing how this turns out. I told my bride she could get me one for my birthday. Nothing special, just the Snipe.
Best
Mark
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Looking forwards to your progress and findinds on this one Des.
Once I get some of my far to many *in progress* builds out the way I may choose to do one of these in post war livery.
Keith
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Looking forward to your in-progress images Des.
Cheers,
Chris
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Like others have stated, I sure wish that WNW would've included markings for R. E. King. The Russian option is an interesting one though and I'll be looking forward to seeing your build log. I like the late version, post war schemes as well. Then there's this old favorite "What If" from one of the first LP's I ever bought.
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Des,
I'll be looking forward to seeing the first progress my old friend. I've got the early Snipe coming so I'll be following with great interest.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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i'm also looking forward to this, can't wait for the pics.
michael
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This will be a fun build to watch, as are all of your projects. I'm especially keen to see what you do with it since I will be getting mine today or tomorrow.
Cheers,
Bud
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I was going to wait a while, have just a few in the stash...........but the early version is playing on my mind. Guess it would be less stress all round if I just ordered one, willpower not being one of my strengths. (and "what if" it's a short run and goes OOP?!) ::)
Cheers,
Lance
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I was going to wait a while, have just a few in the stash...........but the early version is playing on my mind. Guess it would be less stress all round if I just ordered one, willpower not being one of my strengths. (and "what if" it's a short run and goes OOP?!) ::)
Cheers,
Lance
Lol
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Is it finished yet? ;D
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Is it finished yet? ;D
Lol!
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Is it finished yet? ;D
Lol!
No, really. Is it finished yet?
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last weekend i paid a visit to the Science museum in London. a you might know they have a Fokker EIII which was captured intact due to a pilot's navigational error. to my great fortune the museum also has a collection of early aviation engines among which i found a Bentley BR2. the lighting conditions are horrible in the display room i took a couple of detail photographs. i intend to upload the shortly
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Great! I'm on the fence about this kit but I 'm sure this will push me off to get one.
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Des,
Shall follow with keen interest as I have my eyes on this kit.
Good luck with the build, mate!
Regards
Dave
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There's a better lit one at the Graeme white factory at Hendon.
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I was going to wait a while, have just a few in the stash...........but the early version is playing on my mind. Guess it would be less stress all round if I just ordered one, willpower not being one of my strengths. (and "what if" it's a short run and goes OOP?!) ::)
Cheers,
Lance
You know that you're going to order both. ;) ;D
Cheers,
Chris
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I was going to wait a while, have just a few in the stash...........but the early version is playing on my mind. Guess it would be less stress all round if I just ordered one, willpower not being one of my strengths. (and "what if" it's a short run and goes OOP?!) ::)
Cheers,
Lance
You know that you're going to order both. ;) ;D
Perfect! I'll order the Early version and assure myself (and inevitably SWBO) that I'm taking a restrained approach by not ordering both! Then later I can, but wait, isn't there a DVIIF in the works? Oh good Gawd, I've hit the wall, too many good things happening to keep up with! I feel like Tiny Tim at Christmas, "God bless us one and all, and particularly Sir Peter"!
Cheers,
Lance ::) ??? ;)
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I will be watching this build with great interest as after getting caught up in the release excitment I ordered this late version! A metallic paint job I must be mad! ::)
Pam
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My birthday is coming up and SWMBO asked what I wanted, I told her the Late version of the Snipe. She laughed me to scorn and then asked what I really wanted! I then looked at her in my most serious/war face and repeated the request. I think she got the message. I shall have to wait and see.
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My birthday is coming up and SWMBO asked what I wanted, I told her the Late version of the Snipe. She laughed me to scorn and then asked what I really wanted! I then looked at her in my most serious/war face and repeated the request. I think she got the message. I shall have to wait and see.
Mark, perhaps what triggered her laughter was the name, "Snipe". Maybe it brought back memories of the legendary "Snipe Hunts" of our youth. ;) When I told my wife what I had ordered, it got a giggle.
Cheers,
Bud
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My birthday is coming up and SWMBO asked what I wanted, I told her the Late version of the Snipe. She laughed me to scorn and then asked what I really wanted! I then looked at her in my most serious/war face and repeated the request. I think she got the message. I shall have to wait and see.
Mark, perhaps what triggered her laughter was the name, "Snipe". Maybe it brought back memories of the legendary "Snipe Hunts" of our youth. ;) When I told my wife what I had ordered, it got a giggle.
Cheers,
Bud
I think you are on to something there Bud: She was incredulous that an airplane had that name. I told her that the Brits even named a destroyer "The Glow Worm". That brought more laughter. I don't think she understands the seriousness of it all. Oh well, that's the raspberries as they say. ;)
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Great start Des. That seat looks just great.
John
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OK guys, what's all this talk about - is it finished yet - geez, I only just took the lid off the box :) :) :)
I have made a small start, i have painted most of the 'wood' for the cockpit, I used a base coat of Gunze Yellow FS33531, for the darker wood I used burnt umber oil paint and the lighter wood is raw sienna with a bit of yellow ochre added, the timber on the sides of the fuselage is a combination od raw sienna, yellow ochre and a tad of burnt umber, as we all know it takes a while for the oils to dry. The inside of the fuselage was done with Gunze Hemp, the section forward of the timber will be a light grey. I drilled out the back of the seat to give the open weave look, I used a 0.5mm drill bit then finishod off with a broaching tool. The wicker is painted with Gunze middlestone and the cushion and padding is Humbrol Wine Red. I have just started to detail the instrument panel.
Des.
PS. NO, it's not finished yet...........
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Your off to a brilliant start, Des. Your wood tones look just right to me. I just got mine today, so I'll be using your build as a guide.
Cheers,
Bud
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Geez Bud, following me could be dangerous, how about you start building yours and I will follow you ;) ;) :)
Des.
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Excellent start, Des :)
Take your time... slow and steady wins the race ;)
vB
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Mine arrived today - looks like a beautiful kit. Will watch this one with interest :)
BC
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You're off to a great start Des. You build faster than anyone else I know so I reckon you'll have this one done by the weekend. Not to put any pressure on you though . . . ;D
Cheers,
Chris
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Hello Des:
The seat looks the business. It is amazing just a simple drilling out of the holes and the effect is well worth the effort. I too will be watching this with "keen interest". ::)
Best
Mark
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Geez Bud, following me could be dangerous, how about you start building yours and I will follow you ;) ;) :)
Des.
Following you has served me well since our days back on the 'drome, mate! I couldn't ask for a better tutor.
Cheers,
Bud
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Great stuff Des i love the work you done on the seat especially :)
michael
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been debateing on whether or not to get the wnw snipe. i must say not one of my all time favorite planes. kinda reminds me of a camel with downs syndrome.however i do have a hi-tech 1/48 snipe that i bought from lance recently. so i will view your build to see if the snipe grows on me. i like the salamander better especially the camoflaged ones. and they look a bit diff albeit slightly. upon reviewing the instructions from both early and late snipe online i thought right off i would get the late and do the russian one with the black stars so this should be a popular scheme. have fun knocking this one up . i am kinda waiting to see you get on with the caudron.
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Ooh bit un PC !
The Snipe has a lordosis and a rotund fusiform fuselage. ;)
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Thanks Bud for your vote of confidence in my model building ability, I just hope I can live up to it with this build.
Scott, The Caudron is still on my build list, it will probably be the next build after this Snipe, I'm still gathering information on the aircraft. Flip, one of our members, has been sending me some great close-up photos of a Caudron in a museum close to where he lives.
Dave, It may not be the prettiest aircraft ever built but it has a certain appeal about it, I think the post war colour schemes will be a big hit for this kit. I have opted for the Soviet scheme, it looks pretty cool and is something totally different.
Des.
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Des,
Outstanding first progress my old friend. As always I know I can look forward to more fine skill and Master Class craftsmanship from your bench. Before I forget I realy like the Hemp you've used for your interior.It appears a tad darker than what I would normally used but It certainly does give the appearance of the exterior paint showing through the fabric covering. Excellent choice in paint color.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Ooh bit un PC !
Seconded!
The Snipe has a lordosis and a rotund fusiform fuselage. ;)
Is Lordosis docspeak for lardarseis? enquiring minds etc......
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bent back, front to back, lumbar region.
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I have made a couple of tiny steps. The interior is getting close to being finished, instrument panel is done, fuel tank still needs painting and all the rigging has to be fitted. I replaced the Tacho drive with one that looks more like a flexible drive. Instrument panel still needs a coat of satin clear.
Des.
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Des,
What kept you so long ;D
Lovely looking pit ;)
More!
vB
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Nice looking cockpit. Fine progress! And encouraging to a purchase at a certain website from a far-off country... ;)
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You've got a great looking cockpit going there Des. I particularly like the instrument panel. Is the seat identical to the one supplied in the Bristol Fighter kit? If so, I'll have to break out the grinder again to remove the extra plastic on the back of the caning.
Cheers,
Chris
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Nice! Tach cable really looks the part ... What is it? guitar string?
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fantastic craftsmanship as ever Des.
michael
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Hello Des:
This is shaping up nicely and looking good to boot. Thanks for the update. I will be checking it out as I am thinking I will be seeing this under the "birthday tree" next week, and I too am planning on the Russian scheme.
Best
Mark
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Thanks guys for your comments, all very much appreciated.
Chris - Wingnuts have improved their wicker seat, it no longer has the extra thickness of plastic at the back of the seat covering the crossed open weave section, so drilling it out was very easy as the plastic between the weave was only very thin, made life a lot easier.
Bo - the Tacho drive is a very small spring, it is 0.5mm in diameter and 20mm long, easy to fit and very flexible, also the correct colour.
Des.
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Well its looking very promising so far I have to say. Looking forwards to further updates.
Keith
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Coming along beautifully Des. I may have to order this earlier then I planned, and following this build further may just lead to impulsive behavior in that regard!
Cheers,
Lance ;)
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I like what you have done . I might have to rethink my next purchase from WNW .this may be the first none German kit I buy ;)
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I managed to get the cockpit all together tonight, and all the rigging and control cables are also fitted. Assembling the components for the cockpit proved a little frustrating, apart from holding the rear fuel tank and floor boards, I had to align the control column, the rudder bar, the instrument panel and the forward fuel tank all at the same time, and while doing this trying to keep all the rigging and control wires out of the way. It all eventually went together with everything fitting perfectly, the rigging was finished off after the cockpit was assembled. The whole lot was given a spray of Humbrol Satin clear. Seat belt still needs to be added.
Des.
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great interior there - very nice - very complicated!
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I managed to get the cockpit all together tonight, and all the rigging and control cables are also fitted. Assembling the components for the cockpit proved a little frustrating
Oh, oh . . . if you found it frustrating, I'm more than a little apprehensive about how I'll fare with it. :-\
Cheers,
Chris
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Wow - pretty good - so youve built a model before?.... ;)
Steve
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Brilliant work on the office, Des! I'm a little disappointed to read that cockpit assembly is a bit tricky. Like Chris, I hope I'm up to it.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hello Des:
Looks good. A little taken aback to read about your difficulties with the cockpit interior. It looks complex and I am sure that is part of the problem. To quote Julias Ceasar: "Vini, Vidi, Vici", Looking forward to the next update.
Best
Mark
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Thank you for all your comments.
Don't be put off by what I said about assembling the cockpit, it was probably just me. Other modelers will find a different way to get things together and probably a lot easier, I tend to do things the hard way. One thing I will say though, the fit of parts is brilliant, every locating pin aligned with the appropriate hole perfectly and everything ended up square and true. A trial fit between the two fuselage halves show it as being very exact, the fuselage closes up with no gaps or any interference with the cockpit frame work, another one of Wingnuts expertly engineered kits.
Des.
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Great build, as always Des :-)
Can't wait for my Snipe to arrive (will have to hold back on it though... 3 other builds to finish first :-))
Regards
Flip
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Some more photos showing where I am up to at the moment. I did a trial fit of the cockpit coaming, it fits beautifully, the machine guns are also fitted and slotted into their positions perfectly. I have done the tail skid assembly with some rigging as well, the stringers on the inside of the fuselage sides have been painted so now the fuselage is ready to be buttoned up. I fitted the cockpit assembly to one side of the fuselage to see how the fit would be, as per Wingnuts usual standards it fitted exactly.
Des.
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Brilliant build as usual Des, well done mate, look forward to more updates.
Cheers
Pete.
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Beautiful work. Looking forward to the next stages.
Steve
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Absolutely tip top as usual Des.
Do you ever botch a model? ;)
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Thanks for all the very kind comments.
Ian - Yes, I have my fair share of dramas, some builds are easy, some are a real pain in the butt, but I have never tossed a model,yet......
I have the fuselage buttoned up and the cockpit coaming fitted, it all went together so easy, the cockpit fitted perfectly and the two fuselage halves matched up without any gaps.
Des.
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Hello Des:
You are certainly going to town on this one. So far looking real good. Typical of your craftsmanship Des, a nice clean, well detailed build.
Looking forward to more.
Best
Mark
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Des,
As always your projects are the finest examples of excellence and the highest levels of craftsmanship. Looks as if this project is moving along at a fast clip too. The Snipe fuselage is outstanding my old friend. As always looking forward to seeing even more .
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Looks to be one beautifully engineered kit from where I'm sitting.
;)
vB
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I splashed a bit of colour on the fuselage today, I used Gunze Brown Violet for the darkish green and Gunze Barley Gray for the front bits. The engine cowl is only just sitting in position for a trial fit. I also did some very subtle shading under the wing.
Des.
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That kit fits like it grew that way. Looking great, Des.
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I agree Lindsay, so far the fit of parts has been nothing short of perfect, this would have to be the best engineered kit on the market, I have never built a model where absolutely no sanding or filing is needed to make parts fit properly, well done Wingnuts.
Des.
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I agree Lindsay, so far the fit of parts has been nothing short of perfect, this would have to be the best engineered kit on the market, I have never built a model where absolutely no sanding or filing is needed to make parts fit properly, well done Wingnuts.
Des.
Now, that's an impressive statement. How much better can they get I wonder? The review and "re-visit" process WNW uses during final Kit development as mentioned by Richard A. in the interview here is certainly working. Very impressive, got to get moving on my order of this one sooner rather then later. Any forecast on availability date for Barker's Early version decals, Rowan?
Cheers,
Lance
Cheers,
Lance
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It's turning into a real beauty Des. Everything looks so clean and precise as always.
Cheers,
Chris
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It's turning into a real beauty Des. Everything looks so clean and precise as always.
Cheers,
Chris
Couldn't agree more, Des!
Cheers,
Bud
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Des, I follow your Snipe-build log very eagerly! I'm really happy, someone tackles "my topic", the "Post-Great-War-Lotsofsmallerwars-Period"! Besides, I like the shape of the Snipe. And if I should ever get me one, I will do it the Russian style too - although I could have a more personal version, building one of the two offered versions of the occupation forces in Germany, as I live and work close to Bickendorf (which nowadays is Cologne, Butzweilerhof).
Richard
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Des,
Your usuall stunning work! Your contribution to our hobby as a role model for excellence is greatly appreciated! I am looking forward to your further progress and also the arrival of my Snipe!
RAGIII
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I have added some decals which went on extremely well. The scheme I'm using is sheme A in the instruction book, 1st Soviet Fighter Aviaotryad, 1920 (5 victories), very plain markings but quite different to what I am used to. I don't like the big gap between the rudder and fin so I will remove the rudder and deepen the holes where the hinges locate, this should rectify the problem.
Des.
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Beautiful work Sir!
Pam
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That is so sweet and pure Des! Great work. ;D
Regards,
Bob
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Beautiful work Sir!
Seconded.
Question about the colour: do the instructions refer to it as Soviet PC 10, or is it just British looking because it was a British machine on duty in Russia?
Lindsay
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Beautiful work Sir!
Pam
Yep!
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Excellent, Des -
I'm amazed at how quickly you are progressing as well!
Regards
Dave
PS - my wife has ordered this kit for my upcoming birthday present today
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Nice work!! I know you work at an amazing speed but does the kit help that process along? Where does this one fit in the "buildability" ranking of WNW? You mentioned earlier how well it went together. Interesting that the gestation period for this kit was far shorter than others in the range but builds better than the DVII for example.
Steve
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Thanks for all the nice comments, much appreciated.
Lindsay - The instructions call for Dark Green Semi Gloss and they give Humbrol No.88 or Tamiya XF70 as a colour guide. I have Humbrol No.88 (Deck Green) and in my eyes looks nothing like the colour profile in the instructions, so I used Gunze H421 Brown Violet.
Steve - The buildability of this kit would have to be as near to perfect as you can possibly get, the fit of parts is exceptional and no fiddling at all is needed to assemble the kit. The engineering in this kit, and the previous Hannover, has to be the best that Wingnuts have produced. They say they make their kits to be user friendly, well, this one certainly is, and being so easy to assemble makes the build time a lot quicker. The only process on this kit that will take as long as any other kit is the rigging, this is something that can't be rushed and there are no short cuts.
Des.
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Looks awesome Des. :D
I hope to order the snipe kit soon myself. Thanks for showing us all, Chuck.
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Thanks Des. This one wasnt high on the list for me originally but it has now tempted me based on your notes.
Steve
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Hello Des:
My wife (God Bless her) got me the WNW Early Snipe for my birthday. I thought she would, but you never know with women. She wrapped it and gave it me before we went out last night. What a lady! I will be following your build closely.
Best
Mark
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Just popped in Des
Looking good . . . Awesome in fact
Cheers
DAVE
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Hello Des:
My wife (God Bless her) got me the WNW Early Snipe for my birthday. I thought she would, but you never know with women. She wrapped it and gave it me before we went out last night. What a lady! I will be following your build closely.
Best
Mark
Mark,
An "Early" Snipe for your Birthday......................hard to beat. She's a "keeper" Mark! My wife gave me all three DVII's for Christmas, they have either figured us out or have decided it's pointless to try to change the way it is......what it is!
Cheers,
Lance
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I assembled the engine last night, it is beautifully engineered, very well detailed and goes together like a dream. I added the ignition leads, for these I used 0.07mm plated copper wire, the forward leads run between the cylinders and the inlet manifolds. I painted the engine following Wingnuts recommendations, Humbrol 27003 Steel, I gave it a good buff when it was dry. The engine is now fitted to the airframe.
Des.
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Des,
Great looking engine. Did you add plugs or are the one's seen here original? This kit looks like a real prize, I'm looking forward to mine (Early Version) arriving and a chance to examine it first hand. Nice work on this one, the colour scheme should make it unique and a real conversation piece.
Cheers,
Lance
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Thanks Lance. The plugs are the originals, they are very well done and didn't need changing, just a simple matter of adding ignition leads.
Des.
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This just keeps getting better!!
Steve
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Des,
Her engine is nothing short of awesome my old friend. I'm amazed at the detail straight from the box. As always this is another outstanding project from your most talented bench.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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The struts have been painted and trial fitted, the locating pins are excellent especially for the cabane struts. The metal brackets on the struts are not painted black on this particular aircraft, they were the same grey as the struts. The engine cowl is painted and fitted, it has been painted with Humbrol 27001 aluminium, as you can see the engine cowl hides most of the beautifully detailed engine. The entire model, apart from the engine cowl, has been sprayed with a 50/50 mix of Humbrol Satin and Matt clear, gives a nice satin finish.
Des.
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Thanks for all the nice comments, much appreciated.
Lindsay - The instructions call for Dark Green Semi Gloss and they give Humbrol No.88 or Tamiya XF70 as a colour guide. I have Humbrol No.88 (Deck Green) and in my eyes looks nothing like the colour profile in the instructions, so I used Gunze H421 Brown Violet.
Steve - The buildability of this kit would have to be as near to perfect as you can possibly get, the fit of parts is exceptional and no fiddling at all is needed to assemble the kit. The engineering in this kit, and the previous Hannover, has to be the best that Wingnuts have produced. They say they make their kits to be user friendly, well, this one certainly is, and being so easy to assemble makes the build time a lot quicker. The only process on this kit that will take as long as any other kit is the rigging, this is something that can't be rushed and there are no short cuts.
Des.
Des,
You are the second persom I have seen comment on the outstanding engineering and buildability of this kit! From what I gather not even the Tamiya Spitfire is any better. I am looking forward to your further progress and eagerly awaiting the arrival of my Early Version Snipe.
RAGIII
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She's really looking stunning with the markings, Des. As always, a beautiful, clean, flawless project. I really am looking forward to seeing her finished.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thanks for all the nice comments, much appreciated.
Lindsay - The instructions call for Dark Green Semi Gloss and they give Humbrol No.88 or Tamiya XF70 as a colour guide. I have Humbrol No.88 (Deck Green) and in my eyes looks nothing like the colour profile in the instructions, so I used Gunze H421 Brown Violet.
Steve - The buildability of this kit would have to be as near to perfect as you can possibly get, the fit of parts is exceptional and no fiddling at all is needed to assemble the kit. The engineering in this kit, and the previous Hannover, has to be the best that Wingnuts have produced. They say they make their kits to be user friendly, well, this one certainly is, and being so easy to assemble makes the build time a lot quicker. The only process on this kit that will take as long as any other kit is the rigging, this is something that can't be rushed and there are no short cuts.
Des.
Des,
You are the second persom I have seen comment on the outstanding engineering and buildability of this kit! From what I gather not even the Tamiya Spitfire is any better. I am looking forward to your further progress and eagerly awaiting the arrival of my Early Version Snipe.
RAGIII
It is an interesting scheme all right. It is coming along nicely Des; too bad that cowling hides all the work you did on the engine. I have the early version and will be reviewing your build as I do mine. Probably next or next to next.
Too bad Tamiya isn't forward thinking enough to do a 1/32nd scale WW1 kit. I think it would be a big seller for them.
Best
Mark
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Thanks everyone for your kind words, as always very much appreciated.
Mark - Tamiya would produce a brilliant 1:32 scale WW1 aircraft kit but they would have a very high price on the product, no company could compete with Wingnuts on price and now quality.
RagIII - I can't say enough about the buildabilityof this kit, it is superb. Wingnuts have eased up a bit on their customary very tight tolerances making this kit so much easier to put together.
Des.
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Exceptional work Des... As expected from your workbench!
I wasn't taken by this kit at first, just because of the look of it, but your build is making me change my mind :)
How on earth do you keep your models so pristine? You must handle them wearing the kind of gloves that butlers wear for handling silver or museum curators with ancient artifacts!
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Hello Des, lovely work as usual. How many hours a day do you get to model as your output is astonishing.
I'm interested in your comments on the colours as the Xf-70 doesn't look right either to their profile. I sometimes use the brown violet for pc10 so I have some of that and this scheme was my first choice although I might go silver as you can't go wrong with that.
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Great looking build Des, your engine is superb and I love the colour scheme, I'm seriously thinking of having a go at this kit myself.
Cheers
Pete.
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Des,
Really looking the part now - I'm very pleased to read that this kit goes together well. My wife has ordered for my upcoming birthday. Wingnuts have dispatched today so should receive it in good time!
I'm mainly an OOB kit builder - do you think this will still look good without any super detailing work?
Regards
Dave
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Looks fantastic Des. Looking forward to the next installement! ;)
Forgive my ignorance, but how are you planning on simulating the buckles for this bird? The don't look like what I've seen on other WW1 aircraft so I'm kind of curious.
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Looks like it is being produced by the Master himself. Excellent progress and beautiful build. On the stage it is now in I have only one question: how do you align all the struts: at what angle to the bottom wing and in line, or does the fit of the struts in the holes in the bottom wing leave no room for errors?
regards,
Ivo
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She's really looking stunning with the markings, Des. As always, a beautiful, clean, flawless project. I really am looking forward to seeing her finished.
Cheers,
Bud
I'll echo what Bud said Des. She looks pristine.
Cheers,
Chris
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Thanks guys for all your wonderful comments, I will try and answer some of your questions.
Ian - I don't wear gloves when handling the model, what I do is to wrap a tissue around the fuselage and tape it to itself, this gives me a good place to hold and manhandle the model without causing any marks on the paint work. No matter how clean you might think your hands are there is always marks left on the model if handled too often.
GCN - I found the Gunze Brown Violet to be a pretty good match to what is shown in the instruction book, it does not show up as the true colour in the photos, it appears to be more green where in actual fact it is leaning more towards brownish green.
Pete - Definitely get one, it is a brilliant kit and is so easy to build, you will not be sorry.
Dave - If you built this model OOB you would have a fantastic looking model, Wingnuts have everything you need in the box apart from rigging lines. All I did was to add fuselage rigging lines inside the fuselage, control column, rudder control cable and ignition leads to the engine. The only bit of detailing I have done, but this was for my own benefit only, was to hollow out the venturi and add cross pieces to the inlet.
Chuck - The control cables at the rear end, rudder and elevators, had turnbuckles, these will be added using my own home made variety. The wing rigging will be done using 0.12mm monofilament, I don't like the flat rigging material now available. The top wing will have small eyelets glued into the underside of the wing, the bottom wing will have a new idea I am still playing with, a short length of 0.4mm brass tube with the mono glued inside and a small brass nut to look like the adjusting nut, the brass tube will have a slight bend and be glued directly into the wing - this is an experiment so I will keep you informed if it works.
Ivo - The struts on this model have excellent locating pins and holes, each pin and hole is a different shape so the struts can't be mixed up and placed in the wrong hole. I fitted the two forward cabane struts first, these are an excellent fit and sit exactly where they are supposed to be, I then fitted the rear cabanes but checked the top wing fitment before gluing the struts just to make sure they line up with the holes. Once the cabanes are fixed in position the rest of the struts are very simple, glue each strut into position and with a straight edge run it along the top of the struts, they should all line up as a straight line. Wingnuts have made this task very easy as most of the struts lined up without any need of adjustment.
Des.
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Des,
Thanks for the explanation. It is nice to follow your routine. Especially because it is almost thesame as what I did with my D.VII. That way I feel less a beginner ;) Perhaps there it was even a little bit easier on the D.VII as the forward cabane struts have 2 (or even 3) connections to the fuselage, leaving little room for misplacement. And after these were placed, the rest followed just as you described with your Snipe.
regards,
Ivo
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Wow - sounds like WNW have eliminated all the possible little 'traps" like mixing up struts and locating holes. This one keeps calling........
Steve
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Thanks Des. When I built my first WNW model - the RFC Pup - I deliberately painted all the surfaces in CDL "colour" first, before the PC10 representation. Then, if by over handling the model there was any wear on the PC-10, this would show the underlying CDL as if the real paint had faded.
That said, your work is spotless.
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Interesting! I will for sure keep my eyes on how this all come out.
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The top wing has now been fitted, alignment with the struts was perfect and was so easy to fit, the locating pins on top of each strut give a really good secure fit. I have also rigged the cabane struts, wing rigging is next on the agenda. I fitted the windscreen as well, it has a hole through the middle for the Aldis Sight to pass through.
Des.
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Fantastic as ever Des realy coming along now
michael
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Hello Des:
This really is a neat looking airplane. Seeing it unfold on your bench really brings out the uniqueness of it. Glad to see too that the upper wing fit is an easy task. The NINAk was too. One would think with all those struts it would be a bit of a chore.
I like the Russian scheme as well. Not real colorful, but neat.
Best
Mark
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She's really looking the part now, Des. The more I read of the excellent fit and the ease of construction, the more I want to get started on mine. Just have a couple things to clear of the bench first. I'm looking forward to seeing her fully rigged.
Cheers,
Bud
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Lovely build Des, neat colour scheme as well, looks good.
Cheers
Pete.
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Great looking bird and as about as sinister looking as a Snipe can get!!
Steve
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Are you going to close the gap between rudder & fin?
I'm not sure you need to - the bottom illustration on the datafile 46 shows a gap big enough to drive a bus through!
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Dekenba - I have moved the rudder forward a little which closed the gap quite considerably, but I couldn't lower the rudder so it will have to do the way it is.
I did all the wing rigging today, it was pretty straight forward but two bays meant twice the work. I used 0.12mm monofilament and once each line was fitted I painted them with Mr Metal Color Stainless, then buffed them lightly. Undercarriage rigging is next then the tail end rigging.
Des.
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I don't know what your day job is, Des, but from the looks of the rigging, I'd have to say surgeon!
A question, if you don't mind: do you have a system for where to drill the holes for your eyelets? Is it just as simple as "drill as close to the strut locating hole without encroaching on it"?
Thanks,
Lindsay
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Say Des, not that I have any particular reason to ask ::), but am I correct in believing that I don't see double flying lines bisected by a landing line? You know how it is . . . just wondering . . . ;D ;D
Cheers,
Chris
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Say Des, not that I have any particular reason to ask ::), but am I correct in believing that I don't see double flying lines bisected by a landing line? You know how it is . . . just wondering . . . ;D ;D
Cheers,
Chris
Chris, when the Reds got their mitts on the ship, they considered the extra flying wires redundant and had them removed for use on their farm equipment.
Brilliant work, by the way, Des!
Cheers,
Bud
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A question, if you don't mind: do you have a system for where to drill the holes for your eyelets? Is it just as simple as "drill as close to the strut locating hole without encroaching on it"?
You can ignore that question, Des. I realized I actually had a WnW kit to refer to. Turns out the rigging points are provided! Who'd a thunk. They really did think of everything ...
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Lindsay - you are correct, all the rigging holes are pre-drilled, but they do need to be deepened, I use a 0.4mm drill bit and drill about three parts of the way into the wing. My day job is building model aeroplanes :) :) (I'm retired)
Chris - no double flying wires on this beast, this makes life a bit easier when rigging.
For those who are interested, the wing rigging took me in total four hours to complete, I still need to do the aileron cables but I always leave those until the final job.
Des.
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Excellent work as per usual Des. What do you buff the flying wires with after theyre painted?
Steve
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Steve - Once the paint is dry, it only takes a matter of seconds, I buff the wires with a medium size soft paint brush, I just rub the brush up and down the wire a few times to achieve a nice sheen.
Des.
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Chris, when the Reds got their mitts on the ship, they considered the extra flying wires redundant and had them removed for use on their farm equipment.
That works for me Bud!
Cheers,
Chris
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Des,
This looks great. The Russian scheme is quite striking. Yet another WNW temptation... sigh!
John
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Looks great Des! http://
Any chance we can see a close up picture of one of your rigging buckles? I would love to see how the brass tube and nut all came out.
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Looks great Des!
Any chance we can see a close up picture of one of your rigging buckles? I would love to see how the brass tube and nut all came out.
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Hi Chuck,
Why not pop along to Des's website. Plenty of rigging pictures to feast your eyes on.
http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/ (http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/)
vB
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Thanks Bob. I have gone on there but didn't notice this style of buckle being shown in an of the write ups.
Does he now have a write up on the buckle with a nut on top?
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Also, would you mind sharing where you sourced the brass nut for your buckles? I have this same kit on order and would like to glean as much wisdom as possible from the master! ;)
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Lovely Des
How is the under fuselage seam? I always have trouble with these box section seams underneath as sanding pushes them down. I haven't managed a seam free join yet. I am about to start mine as a post war silver scheme from Rowan, so the seams are important, as the silver will show every blemish.
Any news on Hgw masks yet?
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Chuck - Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. The little rigging connectors I fitted to the Snipe are made from 0.4mm brass tube cut to 2.5mm long. The small brass nuts are from http://www.rbmotion.com/ and the nuts I used are P/N 1280B (0.026" hex). The nuts have a 0.4mm hole so the brass tube slips over them nicely, a small srop of CA holds them in place. I then inserted a length of 0.12mm monofilament into the brass tube, again CA will hold it very well.
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The photo of the fittings in the wing are not very good photos, my camera is not good at taking close-ups. To fit the connectors I drilled a 0.4mm hole into the wing in the same position as the pre-marked rigging holes, I drilled these holes on the same angle as what the rigging line will be when connected to both wings. I drilled about 0.75mm into the wing, this allows the connector to sit nice and snug and at the correct angle, a small drop of CA will give an excellent bond.
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Dave - The under fuselage seam is an excellent join, no misalignment at all and no gaps, all I did on mine when the glue was set was to run a very fine bead of correction fluid along the seam then gave it a very light sanding. If you are concerned about the seams pushing down while sanding you could reinforce the seam before the fuselage side go together. On one fuselage half glue a length of plastic card on the bottom of the fuselage and allow it to overhang the seam by about 5mm, use reasonably thick card for this. Once the glue has fully set you can assemble the two fuselage sides as normal but this time there is a good solid fixing poit on the bottom of the fuselage. I have used this method on a lot of my models and it gives a very good seamless join.
Des.
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Ah, fantastic! ;D
Thanks as always for sharing, Chuck.
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All the rigging is done including the undercarriage and tail, I'm still waiting for fresh supplies of Mr Metal Color Stainless so I can finish off painting the rigging. The prop is painted grey on the front surface and black at the back, a small section of laminated wood is still visible near the hub. I also managed to fit the Aldis sight, a bit tricky getting it into position as it passes through a hole in the windscreen, not a lot of room to work between the top wing and the top of the fuselage. She's nearly done.
Des.
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She looks fantastic, Des.
Well done.
Cheers,
BvB
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Fantastic!
And nice rigging technique :)
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A real beauty Des! ;D Thanks for choosing this interesting scheme and sharing your exemplary work with us. :D
Regards,
Bob
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Very nice.
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Beautiful work!
Pam
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Very sharp
Steve
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Absolutely stunning, Des. Congratulations on another masterpiece.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hi Des,
I am curious why you chose to rig using this method as opposed to rigging with eyelets. Was rigging different on the Snipe or are you using a new technique?
Looks absolutely fabulous, regardless.
Cheers,
John
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Thank you gentlemen for the kind comments.
John - The Snipe used the RAF aerodynamic wires for their rigging (flat rigging) but I don't use the products available and stick with monofilament. The connection of the flat wires to the wings is a different method tp the usual rigging wires so I tried to simulate what the connections looked like, it is only an experiment so I only did it on the bottom wing. It turned out not bad but the nuts I used are a tad too large, but they are the smallest I could find. Under the top wing I used my normal method of eyelets, which are hard to see anyway. Looking at the model from a viewing distance the bottom wing connections are hardly noticeable, so it was probably not worth the effort to make them, eyelets would have looked just as good with the small brass sleeve pushed down onto the eyelet, we live and learn.
Des.
This model is now completed and photos are in the Completed Model section.
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Nice work, model turned on lovely sight!
Surprisingly and pleased that you have chosen the option of Sapozhnikov, I thought that the West is more popular machine Barker.
Now itself in anticipation of this great model will do, of course, the plane Sapozhnikov)))
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Des, I'm late to the party again, but I have to say you've made a fine job of this one. I disagree about one point though: from your pics, I see just a hint of bulk to the lower wing wires, and that makes me want to look closer to try to SEE what is going on. I think that that subtle detail is what makes a model worth adding those details to. Non-modellers look; the wee details draw them in for the "how do you do that?" which is a nice question.
Perhaps I'm not so eloquent as I'm trying to be.
Nice build!