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Re: Roden Nieuport 24 BIS SPA. 124 1/32nd, CSM Nieuport XVII N124 1/32nd
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2018, 08:09:33 AM »
Nice project! I am sure I will learn no less from following your build of these kits  :)
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Andreas

Thanks Andreas, I appreciate you following along!
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Re: Roden Nieuport 24 BIS SPA. 124 1/32nd, CSM Nieuport XVII N124 1/32nd
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2018, 08:10:53 AM »
Got a message today mine are at the front door....I may need to join you fine fellows in building one of them.

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Re: Roden Nieuport 24 BIS SPA. 124 1/32nd, CSM Nieuport XVII N124 1/32nd
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2018, 08:12:19 AM »
Got a message today mine are at the front door....I may need to join you fine fellows in building one of them.

Ryan

Great news. Please do join in as the more the Merrier and we all can see different approaches
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Re: Roden Nieuport 24 BIS SPA. 124 1/32nd, CSM Nieuport XVII N124 1/32nd
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2018, 01:16:36 PM »
A very small update just to show work is being done:

Interior parts being painted. In particular working on the wood parts. Windsor Newton Acrylic Oils over a Tamiya Beige base coat.

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Re: Roden Nieuport 24 BIS SPA. 124 1/32nd, CSM Nieuport XVII N124 1/32nd
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2018, 04:11:47 PM »
Yep. That's where I'd start but I still can't bring myself to acrylics for wood finishes. I have to work on that because the waiting time for the oils to cure is so long. But my tries with acylics never look as good as the oils...?? Your work looks just perfectly fine in acrylic. I will have to learn.

Looking forward to more. I have started a Fokker EIV but the CSM Nieuport is next after that. One at time for me!

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Re: Roden Nieuport 24 BIS SPA. 124 1/32nd, CSM Nieuport XVII N124 1/32nd
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2018, 12:01:12 AM »
Yep. That's where I'd start but I still can't bring myself to acrylics for wood finishes. I have to work on that because the waiting time for the oils to cure is so long. But my tries with acylics never look as good as the oils...?? Your work looks just perfectly fine in acrylic. I will have to learn.

Looking forward to more. I have started a Fokker EIV but the CSM Nieuport is next after that. One at time for me!

Cheers
Alistair

 Alistair,
     Have you tried this product? I prefer using oils as well, over an acrylic base color.



   Our local paint dealer has a small Winsor & Newton selection and was able to order this for me from his supplier. It solved the drying problem for me, reduces drying time to 24 hours or less. It's a gel of sorts, you just mix a "blob" of it about 1 part Liquin to 2 or 3 parts oil paint straight out of the tube and away you go! The bottle illustrated is a lifetime supply, I'd recommend the smaller one.
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Re: Roden Nieuport 24 BIS SPA. 124 1/32nd, CSM Nieuport XVII N124 1/32nd
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2018, 12:51:11 PM »
One thing I want to emphasize is that the WN Acrylic Oils are different than Straight Up Acrylics. I cant work with Acrylics for wood grain either. They have the fast drying properties of Acrylics but can be blended more like Oils! That being said I only use them for interior wood grain as I STILL PREFER OILS for overall wood finishes! Now for a small update on the Roden 24 BIS. I used the same Tamiya base in the same spraying session and had this reaction. Most likely Mold Release. Didn't even think about the possibility as the kit has been in my possession for years!




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Re: Roden Nieuport 24 BIS SPA. 124 1/32nd, CSM Nieuport XVII N124 1/32nd
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2018, 09:07:59 PM »
Hi RAGIII,
I use 'DecoArts' Crafters Acrylics for all of my modelling wood effects.
They are acrylic oil paints that have a smooth creamy texture and after application by brush (over a acrylic base colour), fully dry in around ten minutes.  They can be blended together and also sealed with the usual acrylic or lacquer clear coats.  The range of colours is good to.

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Re: Roden Nieuport 24 BIS SPA. 124 1/32nd, CSM Nieuport XVII N124 1/32nd
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2019, 04:41:27 AM »
Working in Retail December was not a Month with a lot of Modeling time. I have finally begun to assemble things in the CSM cockpit. JMHO but I have found things a bit tricky to align. Others have flown through this kit so I know it is simply my mediocre skills at fault. I have completed the first 3 or 4 steps and will get more done today. As for the Roden kit I managed to strip the bad interior paint today and will re do soon.

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Re: Roden Nieuport 24 BIS SPA. 124 1/32nd, CSM Nieuport XVII N124 1/32nd
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2019, 07:54:35 AM »
Looking good!
No worries about going a little slower.

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Re: Roden Nieuport 24 BIS SPA. 124 1/32nd, CSM Nieuport XVII N124 1/32nd
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2019, 08:08:39 AM »
Looking good!
No worries about going a little slower.

Agree, your skills are definitely not lacking Rick as is evident with your other builds.

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Re: Roden Nieuport 24 BIS SPA. 124 1/32nd, CSM Nieuport XVII N124 1/32nd
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2019, 09:07:53 AM »
Rick,
    What color are you using on the metal cockpit frame components? It certainly looks the part and nice work so far.
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Re: Roden Nieuport 24 BIS SPA. 124 1/32nd, CSM Nieuport XVII N124 1/32nd
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2019, 09:53:39 AM »
Rick,
    What color are you using on the metal cockpit frame components? It certainly looks the part and nice work so far.
Cheers,
Lance

Thanks Guys! Lance, the blue is a Valejo color. UK PRU blue.
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Re: Roden Nieuport 24 BIS SPA. 124 1/32nd, CSM Nieuport XVII N124 1/32nd
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2019, 12:05:30 PM »
Thanks Rick; the more queries I make the more Valejo gets mentioned. I need to get busy and try this line!
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Re: Roden Nieuport 24 BIS SPA. 124 1/32nd, CSM Nieuport XVII N124 1/32nd
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2019, 08:39:01 PM »
Thanks Rick; the more queries I make the more Valejo gets mentioned. I need to get busy and try this line!
Cheers,
Lance

I use Valejo a lot for items that I hand brush, mostly parts in the interior that will barely be seen. It brushes quite well. I have sprayed Valejo mixed with Future as an overall color, like my Dr1, and Jasta 11 DVII and Albatros, but still prefer Tamiya Acrylics or Drooling BUlldog for spraying.
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