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Offline TobyCoulson

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Fokker DR1 fuselage colours
« on: January 09, 2018, 08:10:55 PM »
I'm currently building the 1/48 Eduard DR.1 flown by Lt. Werner Steinhauser and I'm in a bit of a quandary as to the colour of the fuselage under the MGs forward of the cockpit but prior to the engine cowling. The instructions aren't clear. It looks like a light charcoal grey going by the box art but does anyone have a definite idea of the actual colour used
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Re: Fokker DR1 fuselage colours
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2018, 11:15:59 PM »
Is the rest of the 'plane in stripy camouflage? If so, it's probably going to be the same across the top

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Re: Fokker DR1 fuselage colours
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2018, 11:44:35 PM »
Is the rest of the 'plane in stripy camouflage? If so, it's probably going to be the same across the top

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Re: Fokker DR1 fuselage colours
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2018, 11:50:39 PM »
OK, that is showing the top panels from the cowl to behind the pilot to be grey

There are other interpretations:



https://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?135031-Classic-Fighters-Air-Show

Have you got a period photo of his DR.I?

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Re: Fokker DR1 fuselage colours
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2018, 11:56:21 PM »
Here you go:





http://www.fokkerdr1.com/564_17.htm

Now you can make your own interpretation!

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Re: Fokker DR1 fuselage colours
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2018, 11:57:50 PM »
Pretty common color for Fokker Aircraft Cowlings and the coaming/ area in front of the cockpit. Fokker Olive Green. Same for the Axle wing and struts, although sometimes the struts were the light blue. In this case the struts are Jasta 11 red.

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Re: Fokker DR1 fuselage colours
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2018, 01:10:11 AM »
Thanks all. Cerise it will be then  :)
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Re: Fokker DR1 fuselage colours
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2018, 01:18:24 AM »
Interesting isn't it. That first picture is probably all that the various colour profiles are created from, plus some knowledge like the Jasta 11 colours. There is precious little period information to work from

I'd say on top of the fuselage, behind the pilot, the 'cross' is actually two triangles.

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Re: Fokker DR1 fuselage colours
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2018, 01:48:09 AM »
Interesting isn't it. That first picture is probably all that the various colour profiles are created from, plus some knowledge like the Jasta 11 colours. There is precious little period information to work from

I'd say on top of the fuselage, behind the pilot, the 'cross' is actually two triangles.

Richard

Interpreting colors and patterns from ortho film can be a slippery slope to say the least. One should remember that red and an orange..ish yellow  both photograph very dark. One can "Just" make out the outline of the X on the upper deck. I would stand by the profiles personally. JMHO and No controversy intended.
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PS: I think the second photo is of the Hans Weiss DR1 but I could be mistaken.
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Re: Fokker DR1 fuselage colours
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2018, 02:33:19 AM »
Pretty common color for Fokker Aircraft Cowlings and the coaming/ area in front of the cockpit. Fokker Olive Green. Same for the Axle wing and struts, although sometimes the struts were the light blue. In this case the struts are Jasta 11 red.

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    I interpreted it as does Rick, solid Fokker olive green using the same colour as the "stripes" on the wings and fuselage. That's the best interpretation I could get from the black and white photos of "striped" DR.1's in the various references. That's just my humble opinion as well!
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Re: Fokker DR1 fuselage colours
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2018, 03:36:11 AM »
Interesting isn't it. That first picture is probably all that the various colour profiles are created from, plus some knowledge like the Jasta 11 colours. There is precious little period information to work from

I'd say on top of the fuselage, behind the pilot, the 'cross' is actually two triangles.

Richard

Interpreting colors and patterns from ortho film can be a slippery slope to say the least. One should remember that red and an orange..ish yellow  both photograph very dark. One can "Just" make out the outline of the X on the upper deck. I would stand by the profiles personally. JMHO and No controversy intended.
RAGIII

PS: I think the second photo is of the Hans Weiss DR1 but I could be mistaken.

Agreed both on the attribution of the second image and of the dangers of interpreting WWI colours

On the other hand, I am beginning to find more comfort in Peter Grosz words on colour. If someone disputes what you do, ask them to prove you are wrong....

Have you got what you need, Toby?

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Re: Fokker DR1 fuselage colours
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2018, 04:59:31 AM »
Interesting isn't it. That first picture is probably all that the various colour profiles are created from, plus some knowledge like the Jasta 11 colours. There is precious little period information to work from

I'd say on top of the fuselage, behind the pilot, the 'cross' is actually two triangles.

Richard
Thanks. I agree it does look that way.
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Re: Fokker DR1 fuselage colours
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2018, 05:02:17 AM »



Agreed both on the attribution of the second image and of the dangers of interpreting WWI colours

On the other hand, I am beginning to find more comfort in Peter Grosz words on colour. If someone disputes what you do, ask them to prove you are wrong....

Have you got what you need, Toby?

Richard
Yes thanks Richard. I've found a fresh pot of Misterkit Fokker olive green and will use that
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Re: Fokker DR1 fuselage colours
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2018, 05:13:39 AM »

Yes thanks Richard. I've found a fresh pot of Misterkit Fokker olive green and will use that

You seem to have come through your first brush with WWI colour uncertainty unscathed

 ;D

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Re: Fokker DR1 fuselage colours
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2018, 05:49:08 AM »

Yes thanks Richard. I've found a fresh pot of Misterkit Fokker olive green and will use that

You seem to have come through your first brush with WWI colour uncertainty unscathed

 ;D

Richard
My first public case of it yes.  ;D
I’ve had numerous behind closed doors.  ;)
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