Author Topic: Nieuport 16, Verdun-Front 1916, Eduard 1/48  (Read 3186 times)

Offline Borsos

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3337
Nieuport 16, Verdun-Front 1916, Eduard 1/48
« on: February 13, 2016, 10:29:27 PM »
Hello,
I'd like to share some pics of my recently finished Nieuport 16 in 1/48 from Eduard. I portrayed N. 965 of Escadrille N23 in 1916, that was flown by Sergeant Marcel Garet, Adjutant Maxime Lenoir and Capitaine Louis Robert de Beauchamp at the Verdun-Front in 1916. As far as I could research, it took part in the first Le-Prieur-Attack against German Drachen-Ballons on May 21st. Again I used two photographs on the website of Denis Albin as reference: http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escadrille/page_centaine.htm. The figure is from Alley Cat, the rockets have scratch built tubes and the propeller. is carved from real wood.
 The kit is one of the best I've ever built and it's very sad, that Eduard is not offering it at the moment. I decided to use the 4 color camouflage according to the arguments of Alan Toelle.








Because I'm not able to paint plastic propellers making them look like real wood, I tried to carve my own propellers out of real wood. I find it much simplier... Sadly there are no French propeller logo decals in 1/48. LW, come on, add some to your great offerings of British and German logos!!
More in-progress-pics and a short article about the airbattle of Verdun (sadly only in German):
http://originalundmodell.de/bauberichte/nieuport_16.htm
I hope, you like it.
Borsos
"Deux armées aux prises, c'est une grande armée qui se suicide."
Barbusse.
"Ein Berg in Deutschland kann doch einen Berg in Frankreich nicht beleidigen. Oder ein Fluß oder ein Wald oder ein Weizenfeld."
Remarque.

Offline lone modeller

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5374
Re: Nieuport 16, Verdun-Front 1916, Eduard 1/48
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2016, 03:40:17 AM »
This is outstanding modelling - for a first scratch build it is amazing indeed. Beautifully finished and presented - I am totally carried away by this - and in 1/48 too where the minor mistakes show and details really matter. Brilliant.

Stephen.

Offline Borsos

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3337
Re: Nieuport 16, Verdun-Front 1916, Eduard 1/48
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2016, 07:45:59 PM »
Hi,
there's an issue I almoust forgot: What I left off are the cables that fired the rockets. I could find several pictures how these cables run from the rockets to the V-Struts, but not how they were lead from there into the cockpit. Has anybody an idea?
Thank you!
Borsos
"Deux armées aux prises, c'est une grande armée qui se suicide."
Barbusse.
"Ein Berg in Deutschland kann doch einen Berg in Frankreich nicht beleidigen. Oder ein Fluß oder ein Wald oder ein Weizenfeld."
Remarque.

Offline xan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 745
Re: Nieuport 16, Verdun-Front 1916, Eduard 1/48
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2016, 10:46:41 PM »
Hello Borsos.
Alfred! I of the plane I would like to represent!
Congratulations!
I did you do the drawing printing this:

Or with a cutting plotter ?
as I told you in my topic, According to Klaeylé the nieuport were painted in blue sky in underside after the n°900

The propeler is beautiful too but you should cut the extremity to represent a "Levasseur"


Xan
"Zwei Armeen, die sich bekämpfen, sind eine grosse Armee, die Selbstmord an sich übt."
Barbusse.
"Une montagne en Allemagne ne peut pas offenser une montagne en France. Ou une rivière ou une forêt ou un champ de blé."
Remarque.

Offline Borsos

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3337
Re: Nieuport 16, Verdun-Front 1916, Eduard 1/48
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2016, 11:21:00 PM »
Yes, and again: Waaah, I had a 50/50 chance to get it right and I coose the wrong path... Well, in this case Jon Guttmann and Bob Perason  in WDF Special Nieuport Flyers of the Lafayette seem also to be unaware of this because N. 11XX, N. 1120, 1131, 1290 and 1292 have CDL undersides there. And in Wilbergs book Reservats N. 959 has CDL undersides too. And so, if these specialists went wrong, I can live with it. Repainting the undesides of my "Alfred" seems impossible for me.  ... And I'm sure, on that special day in early 1916, when they finished N. 964 in the afternoon at the Nieuport factory and they had only one airplane to paint before dinner, their spraygun startet to spit and they sadly run out of blue paint. And because supply just arrived on the morning of the following day, they finished the undersides of N. 965 in clear doped linen ...  ;)

Regarding the symbol, I actually took this, printed it as big as possible, took a black pen, changed it according to the photos and scanned it again. I think there were teeth in this skull, not just a line and some letters seemed to be a little different, as the bones (I'll send a pic later!)

Thanks about the propeller, you are right, the tips are too round. I should have taken a picture of an actual Levasseur, not the drawings in the datafile...
"Deux armées aux prises, c'est une grande armée qui se suicide."
Barbusse.
"Ein Berg in Deutschland kann doch einen Berg in Frankreich nicht beleidigen. Oder ein Fluß oder ein Wald oder ein Weizenfeld."
Remarque.

Offline Borsos

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3337
Re: Nieuport 16, Verdun-Front 1916, Eduard 1/48
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2016, 11:43:01 PM »
"Deux armées aux prises, c'est une grande armée qui se suicide."
Barbusse.
"Ein Berg in Deutschland kann doch einen Berg in Frankreich nicht beleidigen. Oder ein Fluß oder ein Wald oder ein Weizenfeld."
Remarque.

Offline xan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 745
Re: Nieuport 16, Verdun-Front 1916, Eduard 1/48
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2016, 01:09:59 AM »
I have just found my new avatar, thanks!

Xan
« Last Edit: February 16, 2016, 01:15:36 AM by xan »
"Zwei Armeen, die sich bekämpfen, sind eine grosse Armee, die Selbstmord an sich übt."
Barbusse.
"Une montagne en Allemagne ne peut pas offenser une montagne en France. Ou une rivière ou une forêt ou un champ de blé."
Remarque.

Offline Epeeman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1419
Re: Nieuport 16, Verdun-Front 1916, Eduard 1/48
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2016, 02:48:56 AM »
Borsos,

Your Nieuport model looks great!

Regards

Dave
As we say in fencing, what's the point?

Offline Borsos

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3337
Re: Nieuport 16, Verdun-Front 1916, Eduard 1/48
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2016, 03:29:56 AM »
Thank you Dave!
Hi Xan, it's an honor  :)
"Deux armées aux prises, c'est une grande armée qui se suicide."
Barbusse.
"Ein Berg in Deutschland kann doch einen Berg in Frankreich nicht beleidigen. Oder ein Fluß oder ein Wald oder ein Weizenfeld."
Remarque.

Offline xan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 745
Re: Nieuport 16, Verdun-Front 1916, Eduard 1/48
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2016, 04:02:47 AM »
"Zwei Armeen, die sich bekämpfen, sind eine grosse Armee, die Selbstmord an sich übt."
Barbusse.
"Une montagne en Allemagne ne peut pas offenser une montagne en France. Ou une rivière ou une forêt ou un champ de blé."
Remarque.

Offline Borsos

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3337
Re: Nieuport 16, Verdun-Front 1916, Eduard 1/48
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2016, 04:50:54 AM »
Yes, that's one of the two pictures I had  :)
"Deux armées aux prises, c'est une grande armée qui se suicide."
Barbusse.
"Ein Berg in Deutschland kann doch einen Berg in Frankreich nicht beleidigen. Oder ein Fluß oder ein Wald oder ein Weizenfeld."
Remarque.

Offline Borsos

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3337
Re: Nieuport 16, Verdun-Front 1916, Eduard 1/48
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2016, 05:01:57 AM »
The other one
"Deux armées aux prises, c'est une grande armée qui se suicide."
Barbusse.
"Ein Berg in Deutschland kann doch einen Berg in Frankreich nicht beleidigen. Oder ein Fluß oder ein Wald oder ein Weizenfeld."
Remarque.

Offline coyotemagic

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7710
  • "Here's to not buggering it up." -Winston Chuchill
    • My Models
Re: Nieuport 16, Verdun-Front 1916, Eduard 1/48
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2016, 01:47:28 AM »
One of the sweetest Nie.16's I've ever seen.  Spectacular!
Cheers,
Bud
"All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream in the dark recesses of the night awake in the day to find all was vanity. But the dreamers of day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, and make it possible." -T. E. Lawrence

Offline Epeeman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1419
Re: Nieuport 16, Verdun-Front 1916, Eduard 1/48
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2016, 02:46:15 AM »
Truly great Niueport model with excellent standard of finish.  Love the flying helmet and goggles!

Regards

Dave
As we say in fencing, what's the point?

Offline Ernie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3961
  • "Once more into the breach"
Re: Nieuport 16, Verdun-Front 1916, Eduard 1/48
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2016, 03:09:55 AM »
Beautiful job, Borsas!  The little Nieuports are great and your model is
as Bud said, spectacular!  Well done, my friend.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
The new old guy, take two...