Author Topic: 1/48 Eduard Albatros DV (Read 18256 times)

TobyCoulson · « **Reply #45 on:** January 27, 2016, 02:08:46 AM »

Thanks Drew. I must admit trying to work out the lozenge pattern and how they marry up is going to be the most time consuming I think after the rigging so all help is gratefully welcomed.

TobyCoulson · « **Reply #46 on:** January 27, 2016, 02:13:42 AM »

Quote from: ALBATROS1234 on January 27, 2016, 01:16:09 AM

Nice job so far.you have made much progress since the last time I checked in.I was reading above about the engine debate so I thought I would clarify.there is no good Mercedes d.iii engines for the Eduard/special hobby/etc kits in 1/48. The Roden d.vii engine won't fit without major surgery. The pavla and vector engines are based on the Rosen engine block buy spruced up to look better .Karaya does a Mercedes which is based on the Eduard block but to me is only a little better than the Eduard and has a couple of weird things about it. Someday maybe a company will do a series 160hp d.iii/ 180hp d.iiia /200hp d.iiiau for 1/48 that will fit Eduard/etc kits and we will be saved.til then we have to just detail the Eduard engines or chop up the kit to make the vector/rodens work.cheers

I have to say I'm finding the whole engine saga fascinating. Much more fun that the WW2 fighters and Cold war jets I'm used to building where very little can be seen. I've got a Fokker EV from Eduard and an after market engine for that from CMZ for that so I'll have something to look forward to.

ALBATROS1234 · « **Reply #47 on:** January 27, 2016, 04:09:43 AM »

Unfortunately the saga continues. The cmk resin engine which claims to be an oberursel made for the Eduard Fokker is wrong it looks like a French clerget.so in this case the Eduard engine is better than the cmk engine.try copper state ,Taurus ,or vector if you need a more detail resin oberursel 110hp

TobyCoulson · « **Reply #48 on:** January 27, 2016, 06:44:14 AM »

Quote from: ALBATROS1234 on January 27, 2016, 04:09:43 AM

Unfortunately the saga continues. The cmk resin engine which claims to be an oberursel made for the Eduard Fokker is wrong it looks like a French clerget.so in this case the Eduard engine is better than the cmk engine.try copper state ,Taurus ,or vector if you need a more detail resin oberursel 110hp

Damn. Thanks I thought I'd cracked it

ALBATROS1234 · « **Reply #49 on:** January 27, 2016, 11:28:55 AM »

its easy to see what i mean just google 2 things and click on the images tab.... 1.oberursel u.r.2 110hp engine..... 2. clerget 9b

then look at the cmk engine. it is definately a clerget, not really a bad one so you can use it in a sopwith camel , strutter , triplane ,a bristol m1.c,some other brit or french planes.so it will not go to waste you just use it later on another build

RAGIII · « **Reply #50 on:** January 27, 2016, 07:09:08 PM »

Toby,
You are moving along at a great pace. Your DV is looking very nice. As for lining up the Lozenge on my 1/32nd kit I just placed the wing on top of where I wanted the center to be in the pattern and drew a light colored pencil line around the wing. I cut the lozenge out then divided it into three sections using ribs as a guide. IHTH,
RAGIIIPS: The above is of course for the trimmed and joined Lozenge sheets!
RAGIII

TobyCoulson · « **Reply #51 on:** January 27, 2016, 07:34:41 PM »

Quote from: RAGIII on January 27, 2016, 07:09:08 PM

Toby,
You are moving along at a great pace. Your DV is looking very nice. As for lining up the Lozenge on my 1/32nd kit I just placed the wing on top of where I wanted the center to be in the pattern and drew a light colored pencil line around the wing. I cut the lozenge out then divided it into three sections using ribs as a guide. IHTH,
RAGIIIPS: The above is of course for the trimmed and joined Lozenge sheets!
RAGIII

Thanks. It's something I'm going to take a lot of care over. What's the saying? Measure 45 times and cut once

RAGIII · « **Reply #52 on:** January 27, 2016, 08:13:47 PM »

Quote from: TobyCoulson on January 27, 2016, 07:34:41 PM

Quote from: RAGIII on January 27, 2016, 07:09:08 PM
Toby,
You are moving along at a great pace. Your DV is looking very nice. As for lining up the Lozenge on my 1/32nd kit I just placed the wing on top of where I wanted the center to be in the pattern and drew a light colored pencil line around the wing. I cut the lozenge out then divided it into three sections using ribs as a guide. IHTH,
RAGIIIPS: The above is of course for the trimmed and joined Lozenge sheets!
RAGIII
Thanks. It's something I'm going to take a lot of care over. What's the saying? Measure 45 times and cut once

I think you have the right approach

By the way I just looked at this review posted by Des:
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=6662.0

Looks as though the Engine issue for a 1/48th DR1 or EV/DVIII is solved

RAGIII

TobyCoulson · « **Reply #53 on:** January 27, 2016, 09:10:17 PM »

Thanks for the heads up I think you can probably guess what I've just done

ALBATROS1234 · « **Reply #54 on:** January 28, 2016, 01:07:40 AM »

And that is a gorgeous engine that I forgot has been recently released

TobyCoulson · « **Reply #55 on:** January 29, 2016, 07:33:28 PM »

Abut to start to cut the decals but I realised that the top has 5 colour lozenge and the bottom 4 colour. The ones I ordered from Aviattic aren't quite right so I've ordered some more. If nothing else it's keeping Richard at Aviattic busy

TobyCoulson · « **Reply #56 on:** February 01, 2016, 06:48:18 PM »

Tail now on and painted as are the m/gs which were a nightmare to fit as they didn't align correctly but I hope I've fixed that....

RAGIII · « **Reply #57 on:** February 02, 2016, 12:06:48 AM »

Quote from: TobyCoulson on January 29, 2016, 07:33:28 PM

Abut to start to cut the decals but I realised that the top has 5 colour lozenge and the bottom 4 colour. The ones I ordered from Aviattic aren't quite right so I've ordered some more. If nothing else it's keeping Richard at Aviattic busy

Just asking here, are you sure about the 4 color Lozenge? I have not seen any 4 color on an Albatros other than in old profiles before the more learned Historians researched the pre printed fabric. Again, just asking not criticizing in any way.
RAGIII

TobyCoulson · « **Reply #58 on:** February 02, 2016, 03:18:47 AM »

Quote from: RAGIII on February 02, 2016, 12:06:48 AM

Quote from: TobyCoulson on January 29, 2016, 07:33:28 PM
Abut to start to cut the decals but I realised that the top has 5 colour lozenge and the bottom 4 colour. The ones I ordered from Aviattic aren't quite right so I've ordered some more. If nothing else it's keeping Richard at Aviattic busy

Just asking here, are you sure about the 4 color Lozenge? I have not seen any 4 color on an Albatros other than in old profiles before the more learned Historians researched the pre printed fabric. Again, just asking not criticizing in any way.
RAGIII

I'm going by the instructions from Pheon but they do say the underside could just be a plain blue grey colour as well.

RAGIII · « **Reply #59 on:** February 02, 2016, 08:15:35 AM »

Quote from: TobyCoulson on February 02, 2016, 03:18:47 AM

Quote from: RAGIII on February 02, 2016, 12:06:48 AM
Quote from: TobyCoulson on January 29, 2016, 07:33:28 PM
Abut to start to cut the decals but I realised that the top has 5 colour lozenge and the bottom 4 colour. The ones I ordered from Aviattic aren't quite right so I've ordered some more. If nothing else it's keeping Richard at Aviattic busy

Just asking here, are you sure about the 4 color Lozenge? I have not seen any 4 color on an Albatros other than in old profiles before the more learned Historians researched the pre printed fabric. Again, just asking not criticizing in any way.
RAGIII
I'm going by the instructions from Pheon but they do say the underside could just be a plain blue grey colour as well.

Rowan has done much more study on these schemes than I have so lacking any evidence that differs I would go with his instructions.
RAGIII