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Offline Suffolk Lad

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Life before the Camel
« on: November 24, 2015, 10:45:18 PM »
Hi All, Hope this won't offend any ones sense of propriety on here  :)

On the thread about the Hobby Craft Camel I posted a pic of a previous model held in a building 'fixture' to accompany the text. Said fixture unfortunately contained a model of a F8-E Crusader which may possibly be considered somewhat heretic on such a dedicated site as this.

That said, Michael(Scarborough) has asked for a few more so I hope this won't be seen as further heresy but merely acceding to a request  :)

Though I have made the odd prop driven aircraft to date it has always been the jets that have provided 'modelling motivation'





The Crusader, a 'favourite' aircraft, was the first 1/32 model made. I did find it large to handle at times and said I wouldn't do another but couldn't resist doing this F-100D another particular favourite




And this is what was finished off before starting the Camel. It's a bit 'orangey' in the pics but is meant to be faded Dayglo Orange. The camera has not picked out the lighter areas and to be honest I do think it needs revisiting to tweak the highlights.


Other than the information stencilling all the markings are masked and sprayed. Paints are Tamiya and Alcad on the first two and Vallejo Game colours on the F-104

There are some more pics here should anyone want
https://picasaweb.google.com/Tug423/F8ECrusader?authkey=Gv1sRgCJSJ1Lnz1cHlUQ

https://picasaweb.google.com/Tug423/F100ModelBuild?authkey=Gv1sRgCL3Jysrb4YyIew

https://picasaweb.google.com/Tug423/QF104AStarfighter

There are others of course but I'm sure this will suffice  ;)

Hope that's of interest Michael

Regards - Tug

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Re: Life before the Camel
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2015, 10:50:21 PM »
Some nice work on the hairdryers Tug. The f-8 is really a beast in 1/32. It sounds like you are enjoying the skill-set crossover in coming to WWI planes. it will be good to see some of your work.

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Re: Life before the Camel
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2015, 11:36:23 PM »
Beautiful work Tug! I also love the F8!
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Re: Life before the Camel
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2015, 12:30:00 AM »
I've never been into building jets, but having seen these and some of your work "in the flesh" at Telford, Tug, iit's mightily impressive.

Best wishes
Nigel

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Re: Life before the Camel
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2015, 12:41:01 AM »
Well, if there is blame to suffer I will do so gladly!

I just love good models, regardless of subject, but I have to say these older jets really get to me.

Tug, you have a wonderfully deft hand! Really wonderful paint and weathering. So subtle yet totally believable. And I think the consistency of the base style is super, as well. IMHO these things really matter.

I look forward to seeing the Camel brought to a finish and to see what you jump into next. You clearly have the skills to do it all and do it well!

Cheers from NYC,
Michael

 

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Re: Life before the Camel
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2015, 12:50:21 AM »
Beautifully done Tug! A good model is a good model, regardless of subject. I have an old Revell 1:32 Mirage at home somewhere which I'm tempted to dig out next time I'm back over the pond. Although from what I remember the fit was terrible....

Ian

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Re: Life before the Camel
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2015, 12:59:35 AM »
Really impressive models, Tug, thanks for posting them. I really like the finish on the F100, a real beauty!
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Re: Life before the Camel
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2015, 04:01:24 AM »
Well, if there is blame to suffer I will do so gladly!

I just love good models, regardless of subject, but I have to say these older jets really get to me.

Tug, you have a wonderfully deft hand! Really wonderful paint and weathering. So subtle yet totally believable. And I think the consistency of the base style is super, as well. IMHO these things really matter.

I look forward to seeing the Camel brought to a finish and to see what you jump into next. You clearly have the skills to do it all and do it well!

Cheers from NYC,
Michael

I couldn't agree more! Good modeling is good modeling regardless of subject matter, although I do love these jets too! It's a real pleasure to see such fine craftsmanship, painting and weathering. :)

Thanks, Tug, for posting these pics and links. And thanks, Michael, for requesting the pics.

George

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Re: Life before the Camel
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2015, 04:41:57 AM »
Well, if there is blame to suffer I will do so gladly!

I just love good models, regardless of subject, but I have to say these older jets really get to me.

Tug, you have a wonderfully deft hand! Really wonderful paint and weathering. So subtle yet totally believable. And I think the consistency of the base style is super, as well. IMHO these things really matter.

I look forward to seeing the Camel brought to a finish and to see what you jump into next. You clearly have the skills to do it all and do it well!

Cheers from NYC,
Michael

I couldn't agree more! Good modeling is good modeling regardless of subject matter, although I do love these jets too! It's a real pleasure to see such fine craftsmanship, painting and weathering. :)

Thanks, Tug, for posting these pics and links. And thanks, Michael, for requesting the pics.

George
Wow!  To see these two agree on something is, well, something.  Still, I must concur.  Easy to see how your first venture into WWI modeling is proving to be so successful.  You're an artist, regardless of genre.  By the way, the Crusader is one of my favorites, as well.  Built the old Monogram F8 before I went into my 20+ year hiatus.  Didn't turn out nearly as fine as yours.  Wish I still had it, though.  It fell victim to hurricane Holly. (see bio in Featured Modeler, if interested)
Cheers,
Bud
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Re: Life before the Camel
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2015, 06:08:41 AM »
"To see these two agree on something is, well, something."

Oh, Budro, you have no idea just how much we agree on behind the scenes. Haven't your ears been burning lately? LOL!  ;D 8) :-[

Tug, I have to say looking at these really makes me want to go out and get a jet model. I've always thought they were pretty lifeless but maybe it's the models I have been looking at that were lifeless. Every time I look at these pictures I see more detail...like the spills on the tarmac under the F-100...it is so subtle yet so convincing.

Bravo!!!

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Re: Life before the Camel
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2015, 06:17:59 AM »
  Tug,
Outstanding brace of jets my old friend.Admittedly I'm not much of a jet fan,however I'm ever so impressed with your Crusader.Brings up a lot of fond memories of my boyhood growing up as a Navy Brat. Thanks you very much for sharing these outstanding builds and for the good memories.
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Re: Life before the Camel
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2015, 06:32:27 AM »
Lovely stuff. Really like the finish on these and looks like your Camel will be just as good.

Nick

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Re: Life before the Camel
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2015, 06:50:06 AM »
A great collection of models Tug, thank you for posting them.

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Re: Life before the Camel
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2015, 06:59:29 AM »
Tug, your second link has photos of what looks to be a very effective yet dangerous paint shaker! Very creative, but I'm not sure I would try that. :o ;D

George

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Re: Life before the Camel
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2015, 09:13:43 AM »
Hi guys, to say I'm a mite surprised at your responses would be an understatement - enormously pleased as well of course and so glad I haven't offended the system with such diversity from the mainstream.

I much prefer a 'weathered' subject but kept it fairly low key on the Crusader as I wanted it to be more representational with as much open as possible. There was a lot of extra work on this plane over several months but it was all well worth it. It hasn't been entered in any competition as I have not done so since 2008.

I love using Alclad paints and really enjoyed their brilliant effects on the F-100, something which, of course, will not have much exposure on the WW1 subjects. Though not directly entered into competition it was judged Best in Show at the Peterborough East of England Show last March.

A couple of points from your comments -

Michael - the bases are from fire resistant MDF board which gives this pinkish tone when sealed with Cellulose sealer. The lower base usually gets painted in some matching colour and is there primarily to support a protective card cover which is made to suit each base. The surface areas, up until the Crusader, were always made using PolyFilla wall crack filler which can make for a heavy base. These were all made from artists mountboard, in the case of the latter two the segments were cut from the whole and distressed with coarse sandpaper before painting individually then gluing back with thick PVA. Once set the joins are accented and the oil stains applied.

George - It's perhaps not quite as bad as it seems. The jig saw blade has had all the teeth ground off. This then has a silicone tube extension (half as long or so again as the blade) pushed on to which the bottle is held by a rubber band. The right hand just stops the tube coming off and does not suffer in any way. It certainly works well - a well separated bottle of Vallejo paint is fully homogenised within 30 -40 secs. I haven't tried it with Tamiya bottles not Humbrol tinlets so that's unknown territory.

I'm glad you liked the pics but will concentrate on matters closer to hand in coming days  ;) - hope to get a full day on the Camel tomorrow.

Thanks once again for your kind comments - coming from such a great bunch of such talented guys, I assure you, they're all very much appreciated  :)

Regards - Tug