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Offline Gutzer

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Sopwith Camel 1:16
« on: March 26, 2015, 07:01:16 PM »
I have started working on a few bits and pieces for a 1/16 Sopwith Camel using the Model Airways kit as a base.  I have seen a few of these builds and recognise that whilst the kit is far from perfect, with a bit (probably more like a lot...) of work can be made into something special.  I take my inspiration from Rizzo Pez's fantastic build at http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234925788-116-sopwith-camel/

Waiting for the kit to arrive in Oz, I thought I might make better Vickers than the supplied brittania metal guns. I started by modifying a 3D Vickers machine gun I had to allow for 3D printing.



Then uploaded the STL file to Shapeways for printing.









https://www.shapeways.com/product/5CHFHM2EW/vickers-machine-gun-1-16-scale

This is in Shapeways frosted detail material and is quite detailed.  I also got them to make one in stainless steel, which is good, but requires a bit of polishing to remove the rough texture.

Next up making a laminated prop...
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Re: Sopwith Camel 1:16
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2015, 07:39:29 PM »
I remember following Rizzo Pez's build years ago so I am now really looking forward to seeing your build. You have started off really well with the Vickers MG and the laminated propeller should be a joy to watch unfold.

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Re: Sopwith Camel 1:16
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2015, 03:54:58 PM »
First attempts at prop making. 








I used 1mm mahogany and lime sheets cutting the eight laminate layers according to a pattern from Pez Rizzo.  Surprisingly easy to sand back using a Dremel and some fine sand paper.  Two coats of sanding sealer, sanding back between each coat then three coats of french polish (and ultimately cutting back the gloss with wood wax and 0000 steel wool after a week of drying...not done yet).

Not completely happy about the shape...the centre hub should be circular and a bit bigger.  >:(  Also, using two starkly different woods accentuates any irregularity in the layer shapes.  I think I prefer the all mahogany version. 

At 1/16th (6.25%...) the prop dimensions are 166mm high x 9mm deep at the hub, which is 13mm in diameter according to plans by David Bathe at  http://www.davidbathe.com/uploads/4/5/5/2/455275/prop-measurmentsv4.jpg 

I'll practice making a few more to get that hub right, this time using David's plans if I can work out the layer shapes ???  Anyone have any better plans?

Still waiting for the kit to arrive hopefully before the start of Easter... :P
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Re: Sopwith Camel 1:16
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2015, 03:57:28 PM »
Outstanding work on the prop and the Vickers! I am looking forward to your progress!
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Re: Sopwith Camel 1:16
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2015, 12:16:20 PM »
Thanks for the encouragement  RAGIII.  Finally got the Model Airways kit, but wanted to get the prop right before moving on.  So I made another one with eight laminated layers of 1mm mahogany, sanding sealer and several coats of french polish finally ending with a light going over with 0000 superfine steel wool to get the satin, not so gloss, finish.  Shape is much better this time with a larger round hub.



Also working on a brass 'wicker' seat for the Camel which I'll post soon...
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Re: Sopwith Camel 1:16
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2015, 12:27:34 PM »
Beautiful work on the propeller Gutzer, the finish is superb.

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Re: Sopwith Camel 1:16
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2015, 12:27:49 PM »
Wow!  That is a truly gorgeous prop!
Cheers,
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Re: Sopwith Camel 1:16
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2015, 12:34:14 PM »
Yes! Beautiful.
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Re: Sopwith Camel 1:16
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2015, 12:47:32 PM »
Quote from: coyotemagic on April 13, 2015, 12:27:49 PM
Wow!  That is a truly gorgeous prop!
Cheers,
Bud


What Bud said  :)


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Re: Sopwith Camel 1:16
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2015, 01:20:07 PM »
Thanks all. Practice makes, well, better..
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Re: Sopwith Camel 1:16
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2015, 03:23:49 PM »
Yes, I echo what everyone's saying, nice prop! Makes 1/16 scale very tempting.

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Re: Sopwith Camel 1:16
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2015, 03:54:44 PM »
Quote from: Pgtaylorart on April 13, 2015, 03:23:49 PM
Yes, I echo what everyone's saying, nice prop! Makes 1/16 scale very tempting.

George

You know, I was thinking that if Hasegawa or someone else started 1/16th regular injection kits this aging Modeler might have to give it a go....  ::) seriously though, I couldn't afford the scale price  ;D
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Re: Sopwith Camel 1:16
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2015, 04:26:11 PM »
RAGIII,
          Less than a WNW Felixstowe for the Hasegawa 1/16 museum kit Sopwith..........and it is Injected moulded.....

Just saying.... :D


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Re: Sopwith Camel 1:16
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2015, 05:00:10 PM »
Quote from: ctefehinoz on April 15, 2015, 04:26:11 PM
RAGIII,
          Less than a WNW Felixstowe for the Hasegawa 1/16 museum kit Sopwith..........and it is Injected moulded.....

Just saying.... :D


Ctefeh

Note I said "Regular" kit meaning not just a structural framework  ;D Besides, the WNW Felix, and AEG are way above my normal price range. I stick to the  $69.00 to $99.00 range.... and only s couple of those per year.

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Re: Sopwith Camel 1:16
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2015, 11:56:28 AM »
Nice work on the prop.I like the solid color better it ever so slightly shows the laminate process and as it ages may show it more.
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