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Offline Squiffy

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Albatros D.III rudder and tunic of Capt. Albert Ball V.C.
« on: February 16, 2015, 05:11:12 AM »
Today I visited the IWM in Manchester. There was very little on display that was associated with WW1 in the air but these may be of interest.



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Re: Albatros D.III rudder and tunic of Capt. Albert Ball V.C.
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2015, 01:24:44 AM »
Thanks for posting these Squiffy.

Warren

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Re: Albatros D.III rudder and tunic of Capt. Albert Ball V.C.
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2015, 02:58:01 AM »
Thanks for posting these Squiffy.

Warren

Hear, hear...small, but interesting display.  Thanks, Squiffy.

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Ernie :)
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Offline Nigel Jackson

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Re: Albatros D.III rudder and tunic of Capt. Albert Ball V.C.
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2015, 03:12:39 AM »
Yes, thanks, Squiffy and wow! One of Ball's tunics. I thought he was a Nottingham lad so, in a way it's a pity it can't be there, especially since the coty had such pride in him.

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Nigel

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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2015, 04:19:57 AM »
I'd like to know more about the goggles and what appears to be a camera too.

Back home in Birmingham, Ala. we had a small aviation museum out by the B'ham Municipal Airport. One weekdays, I'd go hang out because the curator was a neat old WWII fighter pilot vet. (A friend of mine once said I collected vets like some people collect Franklin Mint plates.)  :o

In any event, they had the prop hub from Roy Brown's Camel and MvR's flight gloves. I don't know where the flight gloves came from, or whose collection they were from, but it was neat nevertheless for such a tiny museum.

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Re: Albatros D.III rudder and tunic of Capt. Albert Ball V.C.
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2015, 04:38:03 AM »

...Back home in Birmingham, ...

Warren

Warren, I'm a Brummie, born and bred, living for the first thirty odd years of my life and this amazing, vibrant city. For a  while we lived near enough to the airport to walk our dog in the park in the end of the main runway and, occasionally, to see pilots bringing their aircraft down in ferocious crosswinds.

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Nigel

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Re: Albatros D.III rudder and tunic of Capt. Albert Ball V.C.
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2015, 04:42:28 AM »
Well Nigel, I guess that makes us some kind of weird cousins.  ::)  As I posted, I lived in Birmingham, Alabama, but I believe you're talking about Birmingham in England, correct?

Warren
Who just started watching Peaky Blinders this past weekend.

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Re: Albatros D.III rudder and tunic of Capt. Albert Ball V.C.
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2015, 04:52:33 AM »
Oops, yes, I remember you saying now!  Enjoy Peaky Blinders. I thought it excellent and series 2 is even better.

Just to get back on thread, I'm about to start reading a biography of Albert Ball.

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Re: Albatros D.III rudder and tunic of Capt. Albert Ball V.C.
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2015, 05:13:11 AM »
I'd like to know more about the goggles and what appears to be a camera too.


The display did say who the goggles had belonged to but I can't remember now. There were a few other small items from airmen, including a log book and letters home, but none of these could be easily photographed.

In another cabinet was a gun camera, shaped like a Lewis gun but, unfortunately, that was too dark to photograph through the glass.

I'd like to know the opinion of the knowledgeable on the Albatros rudder - The lozenge appears to be the type as used on the undersides of wings, or is it simply faded upper side lozenge?

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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2015, 06:44:38 AM »
It sure does look like underside lozenge, doesn't it Squiffy?  Hopefully the lozenge-aratti will chime in and let us know "the rest of the story".

Warren

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Re: Albatros D.III rudder and tunic of Capt. Albert Ball V.C.
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2015, 07:01:57 AM »
Thanks for posting these interesting photos squiffy, any display, regardless of how small, always has some significant objects.

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Re: Albatros D.III rudder and tunic of Capt. Albert Ball V.C.
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2015, 07:18:24 AM »
It's underside 5-color lozenge, the rudder if it is from a D.III, has to be from an OAW built machine. Or it's mislabeled and it's from a D.V or D.Va... The provenance would be interesting to hear...