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Offline Dirigible-Al

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Vickers Bullet with skis - 1/48 kit bash
« on: February 12, 2015, 05:49:14 PM »
The Vickers E.S.1 (Bullet) was tiny but its almost circular fuselage and somewhat rounded shape gave it exceptional speed due to the lack of drag. This along with its manoeuvrability should have been enough to regard it as an exceptional fighter however the war in the air over the Western Front was changing. As the war progressed it became more commonplace for there to be dogfights involving numerous aircraft all at the same time. The pilot’s views of his surroundings were of paramount importance to the airmen in this theatre. Vickers improved their design with this in mind by fairing in the fuselage to flat sides behind the pilot to give him better downward and rear views but this still was not enough for the new F.B.19 (Bullet) and the aircraft was not liked. A dozen went off to serve in Mesopotamia, then a dumping ground for obsolete aircraft but even there they were not popular despite Vickers giving them staggered wings for even greater pilots’ vision. By 1917 all had been replaced by other aircraft on this front. A much bigger dumping ground for obsolete aircraft or in some cases planes that were to crap to even begin service on the W.F. was Russia. When the Vickers F.B.19 Bullet was demonstrated to the Russians they placed an order with Vickers and the Bullet went into production. Russian pilots’ opinion of the Bullet could not have been any more different to those of the British. The plane was loved by many who flew it for its speed and handling, they finally had an aircraft that could catch the German planes they hunted and considered the Bullet more than a match for their quarry. From 1917 skis were fitted experimentally on some Bullets. The aircraft went on to see action in the Russian Civil War and in the 1920’s served as a trainer in Russian Aviation schools.

Before the days of the internet the only 1/48 kits I could get were Smer offerings. This was of no issue at the time because there were no websites like this one to see how inaccurate and shoddily built my own efforts were compared to others. Since the internet and the AMS it inflicted on me the stash of Smer kits along with some completed models were banished to the attic. More recently I took out the Smer kits and saw that with a little TLC  and tweeking some decent builds can be made of them, it must also be remembered that these cost peanuts so even if two or three are needed to build one plane that is still good value for money compared to Roden and Eduard offerings. I therefore began my Smer Bash. The first was a re vampted SE.5a but this was unfortunately knocked off the shelf at an advanced stage by my very elderly Father in Law who then accidently trod on it. The second attempt went much better when I converted an Avro 504K into a 504L and this is now one of my favourites in my collection. I was going to go thru a load more Smer builds but got distracted building Gasbags.

Here is what I plan to do here: I will use a Smer SE.5a (wings), a Smer Sopwith Camel (engine, cowling and rear fuselage) and Smer Avro 504K (decals). Struts, seat and various other bits will probably also come from the leftovers from these kits. The cowling is the correct width and depth but the opening is too large, there was however a Bullet that had the cowling modified to a larger opening so I will look into this rather than muck around with it too much. The rear of the camel behind the turtle deck from the flat sides down matches very closely to the Bullet so I will use this. The curved canopy above will be scratch built as will the rudder, stabiliser and rear wings. The area around the pilot will be a real challenge and I am not sure how I will do this. I could build up all the wooden runners with plastic card and skin it with 5 thou which will look the best but be as hard as hell or just carve out the shape using dense foam and heat mould plastic card around it using Harry Woodman’s method, I would then need to detail this inside and out. The front wings should be real easy as they match perfectly the SE.5a wings in chord but are considerably shorter meaning I just need to carve the ends to shape and add the ribs.

But hey this is just my plan, if any of you have any better suggestions I would be delighted to hear them. Half my plans tend to end in the world of balls up making me look for another plan and hope that works. This hobby would be really easy if I built the same thing each time, then I would only use plans that worked!

Thanks for looking in Alan.
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Re: Vickers Bullet with skis - 1/48 kit bash
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2015, 04:32:13 AM »
I am looking forward to your build! Having seen what you can accomplish on your 2 previous builds that I am familiar with, I have no doubt you will accomplish this one with style!
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Re: Vickers Bullet with skis - 1/48 kit bash
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2015, 07:19:27 AM »
I will be following along closely Alan to see how you put this all together, it will be interesting.

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Re: Vickers Bullet with skis - 1/48 kit bash
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2015, 03:00:30 PM »
ive seen some of your work and dont see any reason why you cant knock this out of the park. neat build

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Re: Vickers Bullet with skis - 1/48 kit bash
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2015, 05:59:50 PM »
Cheers Rick, Des and Albatros1234
I do not know about knocking it out of the park, there are alot of really good subjects in this Group Build. The bullet is a fairly ordinary looking aircraft so it will be a challenge to make it look good. I have done very little weathering as most of my stuff has an out the factory look so this will be a good education for me. I have some finishing work to do on the envelope of the Drachen I am building, once I have done that in one or two weekends time I will crack on with this one.
Cheers, Alan.
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Re: Vickers Bullet with skis - 1/48 kit bash
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2015, 03:08:08 AM »
Looking forward to following this one, Al.  I know it will be brilliant.
Cheers,
Bud
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Re: Vickers Bullet with skis - 1/48 kit bash
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2015, 04:57:06 AM »
Yes! More skis!

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Re: Vickers Bullet with skis - 1/48 kit bash
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2015, 05:13:23 AM »
Hello Des, Rag III, Bud and George.

I thought I would start this off by doing something familiar, and that is build a Clereg engine. I want to use as many of the Smer parts as possible from the two aircraft so I can call this a Smer kit bash so rather than build one entirely from scratch or use a metal one I decided to re vamp the Smer one. Now the easiest way to do this is simply to turn it the other way round so the push rods face the back, this will leave clean cylinders that will take new push rods. I did not relish the thought of cleaning all that flash from those cylinder rings and also suspected that impatience would eventually get the better of me and I would end up carving more and more of the detail off as I went around it. Instead I cut off the 9 cylinders. The egg size nuts on the hub were removed and some heat stretched sprue was run around the edge because on the full size thing there is a rim going round the edge with 18 nuts on it. Speaking of the nuts I did a little experiment and filed longitudinally 6 sides along some thin copper wire straightened in a drill chuck. I then snipped off dozens off nuts to stick on the hub. The only trouble here was although I think the principle was sound I just could not see the dam things properly even under a magnifying glass. I put them on anyway with white glue and I am happy with how it looks but because they are just too dam small most of them are probably lying sideways rather than flat and showing their 6 sides, I probable went a bit too far with those. For the cylinders I copied one of Harry Woodman’s tricks and got a length of sprue, filed it a little and tightly wound very thin wire around it. I then stuck it under the grill for a few seconds. Both the wire and the plastic expand in the heat and press against each other with the soft plastic forming the inside shape of the wound wire. It buckled a little bit, maybe it should have been in there for less time or maybe put in a tighter wooden groove than the one I made but anyhow I was delighted with the effect when I unwound the wire and there was just enough sections of good bits to do the 9 cylinders. In fact I will go as far as to say these are the best cylinders I have ever made! Better looking than my usual method of winding wire around a cocktail stick. The push rods were heat stretched sprue just glued on. Two plastic card strips were put on top of each cylinder and to these the push rods rested. I then went on to make the hinges on the ends of the push rods but fortunately managed to stop myself because I was going a bit too far again, besides these will not be seen. For the pipes that curve into the rear of the cylinders I used copper wire spun in a drill chuck 20 times to maker it perfectly straight. I then laid it flat on a sledge hammer and hit it with a lump hammer to give it the proper flattened pipe look. I discovered a neat way of curving the ends to all the same lengths. I put a strip of sticky foil on the inside of a pincher and used the width of this to gauge how far in the copper goes. I then had 9 pipes all bent the same. The rear of the engine will not be seen so there is no point in doing anything more here.
   I used the Camel engine cowl and boy the plastic is thick. What you see in the picture is one that I have thinned and another from the spares box I have not. This must have the scale thickness of the armour plating on the Bismarck! I used a shaped blade to get the excess plastic out. As you can see in the picture it now fits inside the cowl. Speaking of the Cowl this is what I will tackle next. There are 2 openings in the bottom of it and in the front opening it is strangely folded inwards around its rim. Although the opening is too large there is a picture of a Bullet with an enlarged opening and it is one with skis so I will copy this one.

Thanks for looking in, Alan.
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Re: Vickers Bullet with skis - 1/48 kit bash
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2015, 05:39:24 AM »
Nice little Clerget, Alan! I really like your technique of winding the wire around plastic rod and heating it to leave the impression. That's a new one to me. I'll have to try that.  :D

Thanks,
George

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Re: Vickers Bullet with skis - 1/48 kit bash
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2015, 06:54:26 AM »
Very nicely done with the engine Alan, a technique I have not heard of before.

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Re: Vickers Bullet with skis - 1/48 kit bash
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2015, 07:11:51 AM »
Great build Alan... like in the old days that now have gone.
I remember those converted Smer Kits and the engines made up from screws.
There was a book about scratchbuilding 1/48 scale models in balsa
and the Felixstowe was there... it may be that also sir PJ was inspired by that reading.
I will follow this thread with attention
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Re: Vickers Bullet with skis - 1/48 kit bash
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2015, 11:55:56 PM »
Will be following along on your build Alan




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Re: Vickers Bullet with skis - 1/48 kit bash
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2015, 03:17:36 AM »
Only just catching up with this. Excellent bit of scratch-building on the Clerget and I can see what you mean by the armoured cowling! This is a really exciting and original idea - never heard of a Bullet on skis - going to be very interesting to follow.

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Re: Vickers Bullet with skis - 1/48 kit bash
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2015, 08:48:33 AM »
Alan great beginning.
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Re: Vickers Bullet with skis - 1/48 kit bash
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2015, 04:15:41 PM »
Nice work on the Clerget! Looks great!
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