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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #165 on: October 05, 2015, 07:08:24 AM »
Those wings look excellent Ian, the CDL colour looks really good, glad to see the torpedo hanging in position again.

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #166 on: October 05, 2015, 01:03:32 PM »
The wing looks awesome! Truly looks as though you are seeing ribs through linen!
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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #167 on: October 06, 2015, 06:02:38 AM »
I agree about the wings looking translucent - just the kind of finish that I would like to achieve but cannot!!!

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #168 on: October 11, 2015, 10:35:18 AM »
Thanks for the comments gents, much appreciated.
 Not much in the way of photogenic progress, but progress is being made. I spent this afternoon drilling holes....40 in each of the upper wings! Lower wings still to do.

 I also had one of those "eureka" moments....I was trying to work out how the ailerons were rigged but couldn't for the life of me see how they were done. Then I reread the Datafile and one single sentence led to the light coming on - it referred to the prototype 184 which had ailerons on the upper wing only and no return spring so they drooped when the plane was sitting on the ground. This caused too much drag during taxi and the takeoff run so bungees were fitted to return them to the neutral position - the comment was made that they then only had downward movement - that was the key! Even when the ailerons were added to the lower wings they still only had downward movement! There is one single control line exiting the cockpit just behind the lower wing hinge and running along the upper surface of the wing to a couple of guide wheels by the mid and outer rear struts which angle the line up to pull the upper aileron down. This aileron has cables attached to its upper side which run forward to the leading edge, down through both wings and back to the underside of the lower aileron. Thus when the upper aileron is deflected down, it pulls the lower one down too! There are 2 bungees connecting the top of the lower aileron to the upper wing which then pull the lower aileron up to neutral when control pressure is released, and through the same linkage, therefore pull the upper aileron up to neutral too! Very simple, but it took me a while to figure it out...now I can rig them correctly!

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #169 on: October 11, 2015, 11:23:54 AM »
 Ian,
Your wings are a thing of beauty my old friend.I can hardly wait to see her all rigged.Keep up your outstanding progress.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette


 PS: Almost forgot to mention your outstanding work on her fuselage,floats and that awesome torpedo.
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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #170 on: October 12, 2015, 02:32:02 AM »
That aileron control system reads like a real Heath Robinson job……..but it worked! So much of that early aviation was relatively simple but no less effective.

Excellent model.

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #171 on: October 14, 2015, 10:07:38 AM »
Thanks Gregory and Stephen, much appreciated!

I'm determined to finish this before the deadline next month...looking good at the moment!

 I now have all the rigging holes drilled - and I only broke 2 drill bits! I spent a couple of hours this afternoon setting up the right wings in the jig and making sure they aligned with the fuselage and centre section.



The upper wing was then removed, the struts epoxied into place in the lower wing, and the upper wing replaced to hold the struts while they dried. Once they were secure the upper was was removed again and the struts were painted. The jury strut at the inboard end which supported the wings when folded will be added later.

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That's it for tonight, I hope to get the upper wing permanently attached tomorrow....

Thanks for looking in!

Ian
« Last Edit: July 04, 2017, 01:09:18 AM by IanB »

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #172 on: October 14, 2015, 10:54:51 AM »
Looking better and better with each update Ian, looking forward to seeing the wings mounted to the fuselage.

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #173 on: October 15, 2015, 04:04:19 AM »
Very good work, Ian.
Cheers
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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #174 on: October 16, 2015, 04:19:33 AM »
Very interesting and more very good modelling. This gem really is nearing completion now.

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #175 on: October 16, 2015, 08:09:46 AM »
    Very impressive, Ian, you are doing some REAL MODELLING here! I struggle with a regular Kit when it comes to alignment and using a jig for assembly (same one as yours), a Scratch Built like this amazes me in that perspective.
    Wonderful work, and a pleasure to follow your progress.
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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #176 on: October 17, 2015, 05:16:58 PM »
Great work Ian
The jig looks suspiciously like the Aeroclub one. I too am really looking forward to seeing the wings one it.
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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #177 on: October 29, 2015, 05:01:39 AM »
Thanks for all the feedback folks - it is indeed an Aeroclub jig.

Well, as you can probably guess, the upper wing did not go on "tomorrow"....in fact it still isn't on. After I'd posted the pic above I realized that the struts looked far too thick...or more accurately, they WERE too thick. So yesterday, when I finally had a day off, I removed them and sanded them all down. I am now back to where I was, but with struts that are much more acceptable!




Ian

« Last Edit: July 04, 2017, 01:04:54 AM by IanB »

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #178 on: October 29, 2015, 09:08:40 AM »
Great!!
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Martin

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #179 on: October 30, 2015, 11:20:37 PM »
Cudos for taking the time to get it right!

Cheers from NYC,
Michael