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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #150 on: September 28, 2015, 10:24:01 AM »
 Ian,
Absolutely awesome project my old friend.
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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #151 on: September 28, 2015, 11:17:27 AM »
Thanks to all for the comments, they're very much appreciated!
 Stephen, the kit comes with a little large selection of manufacturers stencils. I used the ones for the prototype and removed the airframe number. The only part I printed was the S130.

Ian

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #152 on: October 01, 2015, 01:16:48 AM »
A little more progress, due to the fact that I've been off work with a sore throat and hacking cough...hopefully I'll be back at work tomorrow!

oh, and the obligatory "step back" too - I managed to knock the torpedo off! I'd thought long and hard about the order in which to do things, and I think the torpedo should have gone on last, just because it's so difficult to handle the fuselage with it sticking out along the underside. No major damage though, it came off cleanly, even if I did lose a couple of the small brackets. Nothing that's not repairable.

 I've got the upper centre section fitted and, finally, square! It seemed that no matter what I did, there was a slight twist to the piece and I couldn't get it to square up. In the end I made another simple jig by gluing a small piece of plastic rod to a piece of card. I made 2 of those, then clamped them to the fuselage sides, one with the rod at the front, the other at the back, to push the centre section square. Then I tightened the stagger wires, clamped them with small clothes pegs, and CA'd them in place. When the jigs were removed the joints held so I made sure the holes through the wings were filled with  thin CA to give the joints as much grip as possible. All now dried and trimmed, I just need to touch up the wing surfaces. A little heat treatment sorted the cabane wires underneath which had slackened due to the twist. This is why I prefer to use the drill and thread method of rigging - it adds so much structural strength, just like the real thing.



The elevators and rudder are now rigged. I had to use .004" wire instead of the .002" as I couldn't get the thinner wire to roll straight. It's too springy, and too thin to heat. It doesn't look bad, in fact it's hard to notice the difference except at certain angles.






I still need to add some more wires to the fin - there should be 2 more each side from the top of the rudder post to the horizontal stabiliser (1 each side of the elevator horn) which will of course need to be duplicated on the underside, and 1 more from the front rib to the fuselage. Then I need to add 4 bracing wires to each of the wing locking bars.

Finally I added the last of the detail to the radiator in the form of the front and rear pipework. Unfortunately I didn't notice until the fuselage was all together that there should be slots in the top of the cowling through which the coolant manifold extends slightly, to join the radiator plumbing. It's way too late to change that now so it will just look as though the pipes go straight down through the cowling top.



and of course I had to place it in position to see how it looked.....



Today I hope to get the tail rigging finished off.....


Thanks for looking in!

Ian




« Last Edit: July 04, 2017, 01:03:20 AM by IanB »

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #153 on: October 01, 2015, 01:25:46 AM »
Brilliant work, Ian!  She's shaping up beautifully.
Cheers,
Bud
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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #154 on: October 01, 2015, 03:51:35 AM »
That is first class modelling there. Never mind about the radiator pipes as I bet that 99% of people would not even notice - even less know!

Stephen.

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #155 on: October 01, 2015, 10:02:40 PM »
Brilliant work, Ian!  She's shaping up beautifully.
Cheers,
Bud

I agree with Bud! Beautiful work!
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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #156 on: October 02, 2015, 05:14:29 AM »
Outstanding work, Ian.
Cheers
Martin

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #157 on: October 02, 2015, 07:35:06 AM »
Superb work with the tail rigging Ian, I didn't realize that the rigging was so complex, the rigging always brings the model to life. The radiator sitting in position really shows its size, sort of blocks the forward view for the pilot, excellent work to date Ian.

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #158 on: October 02, 2015, 09:43:29 AM »
Thanks, Gents, all your feedback is greatly appreciated!

Des, the tail rigging is indeed complex, although it's nothing compared to what's to come on the wings..... it's also now finished!
The last of the fin bracing wires and the wing locking bar brace wires are all now in place - let's hope they stay that way....I've spent much time on this one replacing and repairing previous work. I need to plan much better next time!









Thanks for following.


Ian

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #159 on: October 02, 2015, 11:54:46 AM »
The tail rigging looks great, Ian. It's very much in-scale and adds a lot of interest!

George
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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #160 on: October 02, 2015, 01:08:07 PM »
Beautiful work on that tail rigging Ian! This is such a stunning piece of work. I am really looking forward to the next update!
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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #161 on: October 02, 2015, 11:18:27 PM »
Outstanding tailrigging!
Cheers
Martin

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #162 on: October 04, 2015, 12:15:24 PM »
George, Rick, Martin - thanks so much for the feedback - it's always good to get a second (or 3rd) opinion!

 The fuselage assembly is now complete! The torpedo has been refitted and all missing rigging lines and mounts have been replaced. Hopefully it will stay that way! The radiator is also now permanently mounted. All that is left is to add the prop and the sling over the upper centre section, those will be added after the wings are on.





I've now started on the wing struts....a first dry fit:



 This shows the struts are a fraction (about 0.5mm) too long so they will be trimmed and a second dry fit done to check the fit against the fuselage/centre section. If that shows the lengths to be ok I will then angle the ends correctly and shorten the rear strut "fairings" (ie plastic strut) to leave the brass rod exposed for a couple of mm at the lower end. The rear strut fairings stopped short on the real thing, especially the centre one, which allowed it to fasten to the wing locking brace when folded.

Ian
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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #163 on: October 04, 2015, 04:59:46 PM »
Been following closely.Wow! this is truly a labour of love,your doing a great job sir!

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #164 on: October 05, 2015, 02:20:22 AM »
Exellent update, Ian.
Cheers
Martin