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[WarrenD]

No doubt, you've nailed the "see-through" effect. As others have said, I only hope I can do as well.

Warren

[rhallinger]

Wow! Very cool and convincing! Bravo!

Michael

+1.

Cheers,

Bob

[kornbeef]

Very nice work with the CDL

Keith

[eindecker]

I add my congratulations. Another technique to add to my inventory. Excellent effect!

[Des]

That is one of the best CDL transparencies I have ever seen, extremely well done.

Des.

[stefanbuss]

Really impressive painting of that CDL. I like it very much. One question, though, on the upper side of the lower wing: the Iron Cross was painted onto the lower wing's underside. When looking onto the upper side, would you be able to see the spar, where the Iron Cross was painted from below? I think the black colour would block any light coming from below, no?

Stefan

[Gisbod]

Thanks for all the kind comments  it does help the build along!

Really impressive painting of that CDL. I like it very much. One question, though, on the upper side of the lower wing: the Iron Cross was painted onto the lower wing's underside. When looking onto the upper side, would you be able to see the spar, where the Iron Cross was painted from below? I think the black colour would block any light coming from below, no?

Stefan

Hi Stefan, I think you're talking about this one?



It's meant to represent the light shining through the wing from above - hence the lighter spar outlines on the top surfaces - and the lower wing spar is darker than the surrounding fabric - it really depends on the ambient lighting - the look is very different depending on what period photograph you are looking at and what angle it's being viewed from! But I'm grateful for any feedback!

The look is a bit 2D - but I'm at a loss how to make it more 3D unless you painted it to look at the model from one specific viewpoint - but then it would look odd from every other viewpoint!

Guy

[Gisbod]

Ah yes,

I see what you mean - I've missed the tips - now you've mentioned it - I'll have to touch that bit up 

Thanks 

Guy

[IFF1418]

Hello Guy,

The wing looks absolutely magnificent and real. Wonderful work you did. A joy for the eyes!

Kind regards
Patrick

[uncletony]

The look is a bit 2D - but I'm at a loss how to make it more 3D unless you painted it to look at the model from one specific viewpoint - but then it would look odd from every other viewpoint!

This is the age old problem of Trompe L'oeil... To recall sell it, you must restrict the viewpoint...

[Michael Scarborough]

This is amazing. Bravo.

There's an interesting tie in to what Michel Gruson was doing with his Brisfit, and other builds, when he's talking about deciding on from  what direction the sun is hitting the object. It's a major consideration in figure painting and, increasingly spreading to armor modeling and now, all aspects of model building/painting. The other consideration is what Bo is referring to as restricting the viewpoint.
This is fascinating stuff to consider.

Cheers from NYC,
Michael

[uncletony]

This is the age old problem of Trompe L'oeil... To recall sell it, you must restrict the viewpoint...

Sorry, autocorrect fail -- meant "to really sell it…"

The style of enhanced shadow/light painting is often referred to as "zenithal lighting" (as Guy well knows, we've had this discussion before… )

[Michael Scarborough]

Is there a thread on the subject, Bo?

[uncletony]

Is there a thread on the subject, Bo?

I don't there is one, per se; Guy talked about it in conjunction with his Albatros build a year or so ago, and I probably blathered on about it a little bit when I was painting my Albatros fuselage too. I put some links to some examples near the beginning of my Alby thread I think. There is the so called "Spanish School" that takes it to extremes; that's been discussed too.

I come at all this from video game modeling, where it is called light mapping; another idea I borrow from that practice is "ambient occlusion" which many modelers do possibly without realizing what exactly they are doing, but it looks cool

[stefanbuss]

Right, I know what is troubling me - the white spar appears to go over the mid section of the cross, but not the tips in the same intensity.

Yes, this is exactly what confused me. It looks kind of .... weird, if you don't mind.

I ma looking very much forward towards the updated/slightly corrected version.

Stefan