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Offline Gisbod

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Re: 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2014, 12:23:35 AM »
Very ambitious project, Guy.  I was also thinking of doing one of the prototypes.  You'll have to reshape the nose and remove some engine panel louvers in addition to adding the wing mounted radiator.  If you can't wait till after the holidays, maybe you can use the Roden D.III.
https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagories/Objects/mercedes-d-iii-160hp-engine/ROD00000623/product.php?s=3-6&t=1&u=4&pg=1&ppp=48&sb=stocknumber&so=a&era=5&sc=32
I'm looking forward to following this build.
Cheers,
Bud

You're putting me off now Bud!

Just glued the top wings together - quite surprised they took this approach - gives some major seams to fill in the most obvious places - not even along the spar line - I'll post a picture later..

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Re: 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2014, 12:27:02 AM »
Ps thanks for the link Bud - that's a very good option.. Are they up to scratch compared to Wingnuts?

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Re: 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2014, 01:43:51 AM »
Ps thanks for the link Bud - that's a very good option.. Are they up to scratch compared to Wingnuts?

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Not as detailed, but the overall dimensions and shapes are basically correct. The little bit that shows can be dressed up with Taurus stuff.

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Re: 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2014, 03:56:09 AM »
Thanks again Bo, I'll have a think on that.

Here's what I was talking about re. the seams - easily enough fixed but other one's I've built have a single piece wing eliminating any joins - maybe it's just too big to fit in the box...









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Re: 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2014, 04:05:27 AM »
Maybe done to provide a nice razor thin edge at the cut-out?

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Re: 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2014, 07:53:47 AM »
Yep, maybe Bo,

They are super thin - see through in fact!

Re. the engine - I still wouldn't have an exhaust as the kit one's are the wrong way round and the Wingnut engine kits don't come with exhausts (and even if they did - wouldn't be upright like the prototypes) - I'm beginning to think I either go for an 'upgraded engine' prototype or resort to a standard scheme, or I guess I could do a production one unpainted!

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Re: 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2014, 10:14:50 AM »
It's your model -- you get to build it any way you want!

But if you do decide to go all in, I am sure you will find plenty of advice and encouragement here :)

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Re: 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2014, 12:16:03 PM »
Thanks again Bo, I'll have a think on that.

Here's what I was talking about re. the seams - easily enough fixed but other one's I've built have a single piece wing eliminating any joins - maybe it's just too big to fit in the box...

Guy

Hi Guy!!!

I love the idea of prototype!!! And as Bo said, there will be plenty of encouragement here. Although this is first time I've heard of it I myself thinking about buying one extra box now :D well, I think It might be that wing isn't in single piece because there are two different options for cut-outs, maybe? And I wouldn't give up on that engine/exhaust too, maybe try ask here, I'm pretty sure there might be some spare exhausts around forum/fans that left after builds as there is quite few kits with few different options for exhaust :) and that on on prototype looks quite familiar :)

Happy modelling!!!
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Re: 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2014, 03:42:04 PM »
Very ambitious project, Guy.  I was also thinking of doing one of the prototypes.  You'll have to reshape the nose and remove some engine panel louvers in addition to adding the wing mounted radiator.  If you can't wait till after the holidays, maybe you can use the Roden D.III.
https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagories/Objects/mercedes-d-iii-160hp-engine/ROD00000623/product.php?s=3-6&t=1&u=4&pg=1&ppp=48&sb=stocknumber&so=a&era=5&sc=32
I'm looking forward to following this build.
Cheers,
Bud

You're putting me off now Bud!

Just glued the top wings together - quite surprised they took this approach - gives some major seams to fill in the most obvious places - not even along the spar line - I'll post a picture later..

Guy
Please don't be put off, Guy.  It's an excellent idea for a project and, as Lukas has said, there are plenty of folks here willing to help. 
Cheers,
Bud
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Re: 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12
« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2014, 05:36:46 PM »
Hello Lukas  ;)

Thanks for the encouragement everyone :)

I got all excited for a moment looking at a DFW with a similar exhaust on the right side* - until I realised its on a Bz.IV engine :( so won't be the right size - can anyone think of another aircraft that uses an upright exhaust on a D.III Mercedes?

If I can get one, then I'll go for it, but if not - I'm thinking plan 'B'...

Guy

*and it had an over the engine mounted radiator!
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Re: 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12
« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2014, 12:19:23 AM »
"Don't Give up the Ship". 

As has already been stated, with the help and encouragement of all of the talented model builders on this site, there is a way around this.
I for one hope you will press on with the plan. There will be plenty of production builds but it will be neat to see the prototype come to life and especially, as one of the first builds.

Cheers from NYC,
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Re: 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12
« Reply #26 on: December 25, 2014, 12:34:14 AM »


I got all excited for a moment looking at a DFW with a similar exhaust on the right side* - until I realised its on a Bz.IV engine :( so won't be the right size -

I wouldn't be so sure it couldn't be adapted to a Mercedes D.III -- all those German 6 cylinder engines were roughly the same size

I could measure for you, but not for a couple of days... My DFWs are at the remote stash ;)

maybe someone else can get to it sooner.

Roland C.II might also be a candidate for exhaust?

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Re: 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12
« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2014, 12:49:36 AM »
Hi Guy,

maybe you can use the exhaust of the WNW LVG C.VI?
Here are some pictures to compare. He does not fit exactly in the cylinder spacing, but I think it can be fixed easy.
He is slightly curved at the end, ................ but this is also not a big problem to fix.
The intermediate tube in the middle must also be inserted, -this also can be done.
I do not need this exhaust, -- if you need this exhaust, please send me your postal address.






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Re: 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12
« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2014, 01:51:16 AM »
Bertl,

You absolute star!  ;D that would be super kind of you...

I'll send you a pm  ;)

Guy
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Re: 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12
« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2014, 01:56:38 AM »
What a great forum..

I don't suppose anyone's got a spare Merc D.III and/ or an overhead radiator? Would be more than happy to pay whatever and postage..

Guy  ;)
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