Eindecker Rigging

[eindecker]

This may have been answered elsewhere, but, following this thread by Dirk http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=1567.135 I am not clear on his procedure. It appears he has drilled through the wings twice at each rigging point, one hole for running the top rigging line through so that it can be tensioned with a hanging weight, and the same for the bottom lines. Are the turnbuckles just "slide on" bits? Anyone have info on this?

[uncletony]

I believe he drilled thru the wing at each rigging point (top and bottom) in order to weight the lines. He tensioned the underside first, then flipped it over and rested the model on the wing tips so the rigging would remain under tension while he did the top. His turnbuckles are the customary pre-Gaspatch method -- twisted wires shoved into a brass tube to build up a representation of a turnbuckle.

[eindecker]

I followed his thread pretty closely, but I can't picture it. My blank spot is this: if I have run a piece of mono through a hole, under tension, then glue the mono in place through the hole, what need of a twisted wire eye & tube turnbuckle? If the turnbuckle arrangement is glued into the hole, how does the mono going through the (or another) hole in the wing under tension become attached to the turnbuckle?

I know I am missing something here, but what?

[uncletony]

lol, I think I'm missing what you are missing. The turnbuckle is purely for looks. It is attached to the run before it is tensioned.

His approach makes total sense to me.... The whole point of the weighted lines is to not overtension anything...(which would be easy if you were just tensioning the line in situ against the turnbuckle...

[eindecker]

I agree. That's one reason I am interested in his method. I dug around in Wingnuts Wings reference photos and found this one of Von Althaus' plane. It's hard to find a decent closeup of the wing rigging with turnbuckle.
http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/vCBAA8476/www/products/model_kitsets/32018/archive_photos/Fokker%20E.II%2036~15%20Ernst%20Freiherr%20von%20Althaus%20(0443-019).jpg
There is a definite eye-to-eye connection between the turnbuckle and the warp wire, something I can't see being able to duplicate with his method.

One possible way to ensure equal tension, "accurate" (I use that term advisedly, with no expectation of true achievement) turnbuckles and attachments, would be to build a solid, straight wing/fuselage connection and EZ Line (or similar) for the wires.

Still considering options. I have an E-I in the queue. I am heading for a lengthy medical treatment that will require a modeling road kit with no opportunity to airbrush except on the weekends, so working on rigging, engines and such like will be the order of the day for a while. Must admit, this research is also the fun part.

[dirk]

This may have been answered elsewhere, but, following this thread by Dirk http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=1567.135 I am not clear on his procedure. It appears he has drilled through the wings twice at each rigging point, one hole for running the top rigging line through so that it can be tensioned with a hanging weight, and the same for the bottom lines. Are the turnbuckles just "slide on" bits? Anyone have info on this?

Hi,

I try to explain my method:

I began with the underside and for example with the left wing.
1. One hole has been drilled and the monofilament has been fixed with CA.
2. The selfmade three piece buckle was fixed (A slide on one as you mentioned) with CA.
3. Another buckle was fiddled in and the monofilament was guided through the buckled in the landing gear and fiddled back again through the same buckle. No Ca at this stage!
4. The monofilament was guided through another predrilled whole in the left wing. Don't forget the final three-part buckle before guiding the monofilament.
5. For tensional integrity/symmetry repeat this procedure for the same monofilament on the right wing  and use weights for the loose ends of the left and right wing monofilament.
6. Control the tension and fix both monofilaments with CA. Fix the buckle at the landing gear at last.
7. Repeat this method for the next left- and right wing monofilaments...

Cheers, Dirk