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Offline BigBlue

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Re: Wingnut Wings Fokker E.II/E.III Early
« Reply #90 on: September 19, 2014, 11:15:53 AM »
Rick, Martin, Justin & Alain, I appreciate your very kind comments. 

I have come to a bit of a halt on this build as I am conflicted about what to do about the reappearing top seam.  One one hand, I would be much happier if it was not there, on the other, I am reluctant to strip the upper surface down to repair it given the seemingly high risk that I will not be able to match the painting and weathering to what already exists.  (The idea of completely stripping the fuselage is too painful to consider).  One way or the other, I will need to make up my mind and move forward, but I guess I am fully ready to do that yet.

I have a request for the community: does anyone have a set of the decals required for this potential surgery that they do not foresee needing?  I have sent a request in to Wingnuts about replacements, but have not heard back from them.  The specific decals of which I am speaking are 20 & 22:



I thought about trying to print my own version, but as with painting, I expect that it would be close to impossible to match the blue.  My other option is to paint the blue all the way around the fuselage so that it is consistent, but that opens up a variety of ways for things to go wrong.  I hope to hear positively from New Zealand, and regardless of that, I may not have the nerve to strip down a finished paint job, but I thought I'd ask to see if there is a spare set out there before I make any decisions.  If there is some way for me to reciprocate, I will be happy to do so.

Thanks again to all, and sorry to impose.

Chris

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Re: Wingnut Wings Fokker E.II/E.III Early
« Reply #91 on: September 19, 2014, 12:15:08 PM »
Chris,
    I would think someone will come through for you with the decals you need. If so, consider using part of the blue strip to recover the top decking portion and thus covering the seam. For the rest of the seam, a small application of the base fuselage colour with some flat overcoat and even a bit of the spilled fuel stain extended over it should work. As for the re-surfacing of the Alclad problems, I must admit I'm totally stumped, don't know what were doing wrong.
Cheers,
Lance
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Re: Wingnut Wings Fokker E.II/E.III Early
« Reply #92 on: September 19, 2014, 12:24:55 PM »
I would do the repair in situ, filling the seam with paint. Lots of clear coats, polish til the blemish disappears. it's doable!

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Re: Wingnut Wings Fokker E.II/E.III Early
« Reply #93 on: September 19, 2014, 01:20:40 PM »
Hello Big Blue:

I have a set of those decals.  If you decide to strip it down and redo, I can send them to you.  No worries.

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Mark
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Re: Wingnut Wings Fokker E.II/E.III Early
« Reply #94 on: September 19, 2014, 01:27:12 PM »
Lance & Bo, thanks for the advice... you've given me hope! 

Mark, thank you VERY much for the offer.  Hopefully I won't need it!

I am deeply appreciative.

Chris

EDIT: I just heard from WnW and they are sending me the decals.  Thanks again for the offer, Mark. 
« Last Edit: September 19, 2014, 01:40:53 PM by BigBlue »

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Re: Wingnut Wings Fokker E.II/E.III Early
« Reply #95 on: September 19, 2014, 04:23:07 PM »
Yes, try filling that seam with paint. It should work on the fuselage part; the rest will be covered afterwards with your replacement decals. Good luck!

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Re: Wingnut Wings Fokker E.II/E.III Early
« Reply #96 on: September 19, 2014, 05:09:29 PM »
Chris this is your choice whether to effect a repair or not to the seam.  To my eye, it is barely visible, and by leaving well alone there is no risk of affecting the of your model. The model as a whole is excellent.

Of course, we are each our own strongest critics.  No doubt you will make a good repair :)

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Re: Wingnut Wings Fokker E.II/E.III Early
« Reply #97 on: September 19, 2014, 09:31:53 PM »
Beautiful work, Chris. Your paint work is inspirational.  Very well done.

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Re: Wingnut Wings Fokker E.II/E.III Early
« Reply #98 on: September 19, 2014, 10:35:40 PM »
I have the same "seam" issue, even thou it is not that severe. Do you used a monocomponent putty or a bicomponent putty? The monocomponent ones (like mr desolved putty or surfacer 500) have the tendency to continue shrinking long after you finished working with them and sometimes it leads to those cracks :(
Try repairing it, because the model looks great and this crack is ruining it :(
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Re: Wingnut Wings Fokker E.II/E.III Early
« Reply #99 on: September 19, 2014, 11:51:41 PM »
I completely missed your original comment on the seam, sorry about not reading carefully  :-[
It is not that noticeable but it seems to be an issue with you so I would go ahead and repair using  a method you are comfortable with.
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Re: Wingnut Wings Fokker E.II/E.III Early
« Reply #100 on: September 20, 2014, 09:16:46 AM »


I have the same "seam" issue, even thou it is not that severe. Do you used a monocomponent putty or a bicomponent putty? The monocomponent ones (like mr desolved putty or surfacer 500) have the tendency to continue shrinking long after you finished working with them and sometimes it leads to those cracks :(
Try repairing it, because the model looks great and this crack is ruining it :(

Sasho, I used mono-component putties (Squadron Green and Mr. Surfacer), so perhaps that is the issue.  I'd guess that the broad, flat surface is more likely to show flaws than a rounded fuselage would be.  I know of at least one other person who had the same issue of the seam re-appearing after some period of time, so apparently it isn't too uncommon.

I am going to see if I can make some progress with a couple of clear coats as it seems like a pretty low risk place to start.  I am cautiously optimistic after reading through the advice here.  Thanks to everyone for the supportive comments, they are sincerely appreciated.

Chris

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Re: Wingnut Wings Fokker E.II/E.III Early
« Reply #101 on: September 23, 2014, 06:51:33 PM »
I myself use SSP putty that stuff doesent shrink and sands great.

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10115769

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Re: Wingnut Wings Fokker E.II/E.III Early
« Reply #102 on: October 09, 2014, 07:51:43 AM »
Well,

It has been a while since I have updated this build log as I have largely been on hold while awaiting decals from WnW... which arrived this afternoon!   In honor of the delivery, I thought I'd share a couple of pictures of my now completed Taurus Oberursel::



I built the engine following the "detailed instructions" on Taurus' website.  I used Mr. Color Stainless Steel, Iron, and Brass, as well as Gunze Off-White for the spark plugs, and a mix of Tamiya Red & Hull Red for the bakelite.  At various stages I used 2-part epoxy, and both thin and thick CAs.  Finally, I weathered the engine using Tamiya Smoke and Flat Black as well as a bit of AK Engine Oil, and MIG Black Smoke pigment.

This is the first time that I have undertaken an aftermarket item even remotely this complex, and it was a learning process for me.  I will preface my comments by stating in the clearest possible terms, that this kit is an amazing piece of artistry, and when completed it is absolutely beautiful (even in the hands of a butcher like myself, let alone in the skilled hands of someone like Bertl and many others on these forums).  It is just not in the same league as the kit engines (Wingnuts, Tamiya, etc.) that I have built since returning to the hobby, and in fairness, requires a significantly higher effort than they do.  In addition, I am a big fan of Lukasz, and am extremely thankful for his help; his customer service is on par with the quality of his products... as good as it gets.

That said, while I am very happy to have this completed engine to include with my build, I can't say I am eager to repeat the experience.  The engine has been on my desk in various states of completion for a bit over two weeks as I found that I could only get through little chunks of work at a time before stepping away.  The problems, for me, came from the small size and fragility of many of the critical parts.  With my middle-aged eye sight I needed an strong magnifier to see what I was doing, and even with that help, found that I had not done a great job replicating alignment symmetry from cylinder to cylinder only after moving to the next stage (for example, some of the rocker arms are not square, some of the spark plugs are not at precisely the same angle as the others).  I also needed to find ways to safely handle the piece during construction in order to avoid damaging the delicate work I had already completed, but even still, repairs were necessary from time to time.  This kit confirmed for me that there is a fine line between holding a part firmly in place in tweezers while the CA sets, and squeezing hard enough to break it (or worse launch it into oblivion), and that line exists somewhere near the edge of my patience and skill set.

Please note: these comments are about my abilities rather than any shortcoming of the product.  I'd encourage anyone with an appetite for detail work to invest in this little gem of an engine, it will not disappoint you.  I have a handful of Taurus bits to add to my D.VII's BMW engine, and am looking forward to this smaller scale project; the full engine replacement may have been a bit too much for me to bit off at this point in my modeling "career".

Anyway... I am hopeful to put the replacement decals to work in the near future, and then get this build back on track and into rigging.

Thanks for checking in,

Chris

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Re: Wingnut Wings Fokker E.II/E.III Early
« Reply #103 on: October 09, 2014, 07:59:02 AM »
Considering your tribulations in the building process I must say that your engine looks superb! I love the painting/variations in tone!
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Re: Wingnut Wings Fokker E.II/E.III Early
« Reply #104 on: October 09, 2014, 12:20:13 PM »
Thanks, Rick.  You are (as always) a gentleman.

Chris