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Offline Ian from Doncaster

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Re: WNW Sopwith Tripe - N5376 Black Sheep
« Reply #90 on: March 08, 2014, 08:11:13 AM »
Slow progress in recent weeks, been away on business, then busy at work and took a while to get going again.

Since the last update, I painted the tailskid, pre-drilled the holes for the tail rigging etc and threaded EZ Line through the holes.  The interior fuselage halves were painted and then the fuselage was buttoned up around the cockpit assembly.  The top coaming and engine firewall went on ok, not perfect, but good enough.  A little filler on the under fuselage seam, bottom wing on, then masking for painting.  A first coat of primer is on for me to check the seams, then go to town with the painting proper.  Before that however I need to prep the other wings, elevators, ailerons etc.

The marks you can see on the primer are where I sanded down the slightly rough primer finish.


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Re: WNW Sopwith Tripe - N5376 Black Sheep
« Reply #91 on: March 08, 2014, 12:24:25 PM »
Looking good, ! Sorry if I missed this but are you doing PC 10 or PC 12 finish and if PC 10 what are you using. I am asking because I am now facing a decision on my Snipe!
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Re: WNW Sopwith Tripe - N5376 Black Sheep
« Reply #92 on: March 08, 2014, 07:35:08 PM »
Thanks Rick.  The references to whether this aircraft was PC10 or 12 are uncertain, but it is implied that Tripes could be either.  I chose PC10 for aesthetic reasons - I just prefer it, notwithstanding the excellent PC12 models seen on here.  I am using Humbrol #86, which is possibly on the greener end of the scale but lends itself more to a factory fresh scheme.  This means I need to be careful not to make too many mistakes as I will do minimal weathering, but weathering is an ideal way to disguise my errors!

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Re: WNW Sopwith Tripe - N5376 Black Sheep
« Reply #93 on: March 08, 2014, 07:39:06 PM »
Hi Ian,

Lokking forward to see it painted in PC10! You are up to a beautiful, well made a/c. Thanks for sharing.

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Patrick

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Re: WNW Sopwith Tripe - N5376 Black Sheep
« Reply #94 on: March 09, 2014, 02:27:41 AM »
I'm looking forward to seeing the Tripe in PC10.  With your talents, Ian it will be
great, my friend.

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Re: WNW Sopwith Tripe - N5376 Black Sheep
« Reply #95 on: April 17, 2014, 07:09:42 AM »
Been away for a while, but had a bit of time with the model this week.  The fuselage and wings etc are painted, then buffed up with a cloth.  After decals are applied, I coated the surfaces with Klear.  Then I masked up where the ribs/edges are as these need to be glossier where the material is more stretched, then sprayed satin varnish over.  Removing the masking strips shows the glossy ribs - the decals survived the masking, just!


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Re: WNW Sopwith Tripe - N5376 Black Sheep
« Reply #96 on: April 17, 2014, 08:10:37 AM »
Ian,
Your rib work looks terrific! Well done!!
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Re: WNW Sopwith Tripe - N5376 Black Sheep
« Reply #97 on: April 17, 2014, 10:31:05 AM »
Gotta agree with my amigo, Ian!  I really like the looks of that.
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Re: WNW Sopwith Tripe - N5376 Black Sheep
« Reply #98 on: April 17, 2014, 03:45:13 PM »
Ian that's a real artist's touch!
Fantastic!!!

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Re: WNW Sopwith Tripe - N5376 Black Sheep
« Reply #99 on: April 17, 2014, 05:38:00 PM »
Hello Ian,

I am glad your back on the tripe. And with magnificent results. Enjoyable to look at. Well done!

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Re: WNW Sopwith Tripe - N5376 Black Sheep
« Reply #100 on: April 17, 2014, 07:55:02 PM »
Thank you for the comments everyone - the technique is quite simple (it must be, if I can do it) and is aimed at replicating the finish I see on aircraft in museums where the material appears glossier where stretched.

In my model, I think the contrast between the ribs and the spaces is perhaps overdone, and may be toned down with a coat of Klear, but I am tempted to leave well alone.  The hardest part is getting the tape I used (Bob's strippers - 1mm width) not to pull up the decals, even though they had been previously sealed with klear.  I had a few mishaps, but managed to save the minor tears and patch up with the original decal.  The undersides in CDL will get a bit of shading/weathering to further highlight the ribs and edges, but not too much, I want this model to have an "almost new" appearance.

I have found that buffing up the wings (like polishing shoes), after the main colour is painted, will highlight the raised parts such as ribs etc whilst leaving the remaining material a slightly uneven satin finish.  The uneven-ness can give a bit of variation and texture, rather than stark and completely even painted surfaces.  I would ideally then leave the wings alone, but the decals then are too glossy, hence the klear/tape/satin varnish process.  The solution to that would be to paint the national markings instead of decals, but that is another problem altogether.....
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Re: WNW Sopwith Tripe - N5376 Black Sheep
« Reply #101 on: April 17, 2014, 10:37:35 PM »
Excellent progress, Ian.  Thanks for the buffing tip.  That will really prove useful.  Despite
the difficulty with the decals, you are doing a wonderful job recreating the "next to new"
appearance of the Tripe.  Nicely done, my friend.  Looking forward to the next updates.

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Re: WNW Sopwith Tripe - N5376 Black Sheep
« Reply #102 on: April 21, 2014, 06:03:52 PM »
Thanks Ernie :)

Here are some more progress pics.  The lower wing has yet to have the ribs masked and satin overspray, and the fuselage also needs a coating.  Horizontal tailplane is just positioned for the pics, and the rudder/fin are also loosely attached.  The mark you can see on the corner of the cowling to the rear of the cockpit is just the masking lifting up.

One more session of rib masking and spraying will finish the lower wings and fuselage.




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Re: WNW Sopwith Tripe - N5376 Black Sheep
« Reply #103 on: April 21, 2014, 08:19:11 PM »
Very nicely done Ian, I like your technique of the glossier ribs, gives a very realistic appearance.

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Re: WNW Sopwith Tripe - N5376 Black Sheep
« Reply #104 on: April 21, 2014, 11:17:01 PM »
Thanks Des, this is what I have seen on museum aircraft, although I have perhaps exaggerated the difference between the ribs and the material in between, for effect.

I have now done the lower wing and fuselage underside.  I accidentally knocked one of the wingtips which caused a partial separation of the lower wing component and a crack at the join with the fuselage underside.  In trying to tidy this up (still visible just), the paintwprk on the fuselage underside was deteriorated a bit, so I decided to weather this a little more than I had planned.  In addition to the wing rib shading, I added some oil staining/dirt using a selection of brown pastel powders, on the fuselage as well as the wings.  I put some pastels on the underside of the undercarriage spreader too.

Because I am now adding a little staining, I put some on the undersides of the middle wings, but not as much as the bottom set, and only rib shading on the top wing.  I will of course need to remember to add some dirty staining to the upper surface of the lower wing and forward fuselage, but this and the fuselage upper sections are the last to treat.

The metal cowling components, painted black, can get a dry brush from my mr metal polishing brush, which will add a metal edge to raised bits such as rivets, edges etc.

Taping and shading, before overspraying with satin varnish.



Tapes removed



Wing undersides compared