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Offline lcarroll

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Re: Sopwith Pup - RNAS : WNW's 1/32
« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2014, 12:15:48 AM »
I really like the effect you've achieved with the masking and pencil work, Andi. I agree with Mark, once the markings are added and you've done the final overcoat it will really come together. Nice work!
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Re: Sopwith Pup - RNAS : WNW's 1/32
« Reply #46 on: February 19, 2014, 12:28:55 AM »
Looking absolutely great :) How do you did those "pencilled lines" - you just draw them with a pencil? Seems to easy for such excellent result :)

Regarding the metal cowlings - Tamiya XF16 (is this the correct number) have too big particles and really looks bad. You should try something else - Alclad II over black gloss for example or Mr Colour's SM (super metallic) series. With those paints (especially alclad) the parts really look like made from metal. Bertl was showing his great way of representing metal cowlings in his Pfalz DIIIa topic over at the GWITA forum.

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Re: Sopwith Pup - RNAS : WNW's 1/32
« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2014, 07:42:01 AM »
I like the use of pencil and subtle shading, Andi  ;)
Well done!
Keep those updates rolling!

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Re: Sopwith Pup - RNAS : WNW's 1/32
« Reply #48 on: February 19, 2014, 10:09:15 AM »
  Andi,
Outstanding project my friend. Your shading and pencil line rigging is excellent.Looking forward to seeing more.
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Re: Sopwith Pup - RNAS : WNW's 1/32
« Reply #49 on: February 23, 2014, 04:38:37 AM »
Hey Cheps! ..............

You all have been so terribly kind, and don't think it goes unappreciated, however my attempts they do flatter to deceive: and thankfully most all of you will never see them in the flesh!?

I've been firkling away, making a muck-up of those nose panels (pic's to follow soon), but to give mine head a bit of a rest? Thought I'd make a start on the engine - some rest that turned out to be. Most everything I'd been made aware of came to pass - as in the push-rods do stand proud of the cylinders, as do the copper intakes fall short of the heads by a half a millimetre or so.
Of course absolutely non of this can be seen once the cowl goes on ... so I decided to wire the spark plugs - bliddy idiot!
No, truth be told I wanted to have a play and see if I could do it - knowing full well if I jiggered it up completely it was going to be largely hidden ................. it went rather well actually, although it took mine eyes a few days to recover.

Here you go then ............. nothing that hasn't been seen before. But it is my own dashing attempt ................







What do you reckon to my groovy engine stand - bought a packet of craft sticks (I think they're tongue depressors really) and finally found a use for one of 'em!


Oh! ps ................... I had to turn up a new crankshaft for this as I think the carpet monster ate the original - or the dog!!!

The chief suspect .......................




See ya'.........................
KBO ............. Andi.

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Re: Sopwith Pup - RNAS : WNW's 1/32
« Reply #50 on: February 23, 2014, 05:48:41 AM »
Andi,
   I think your engine work is great. I believe the key to modelling an engine well (assuming the basic assembly is done well, which you have done) is in the painting. Your photos indicate that you have used different tones here and there, and the shading of the cooling fins on the cylinders as well give great contrast. Last, you've obviously put some extra effort on the copper manifold pipes, they are outstanding.
   I thought I had the only Dog in the free world that uses a pillow as does a human, apparently not! Nice dog you have and a nice Pup on the way! ;)
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Re: Sopwith Pup - RNAS : WNW's 1/32
« Reply #51 on: February 23, 2014, 08:00:49 AM »
Andi, you are definitely too modest!  I think the engine look superb.  I particularly like
the manifold pipes.  What colour did you use to paint them?  They look great.  As Lance
mentioned, the staining etc. on the cylinders is first rate. Keep this up and you will have
a show-stopper!  By the way, I like the big Pup as well. ;) ;D

Cheers,
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Re: Sopwith Pup - RNAS : WNW's 1/32
« Reply #52 on: February 23, 2014, 06:09:54 PM »
Hi Andi,

Great engine you produced and the presentation is top too. What a lovely doggy you have! Keep up the great work my friend.

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Patrick

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Re: Sopwith Pup - RNAS : WNW's 1/32
« Reply #53 on: February 23, 2014, 09:45:25 PM »
Hello again.............

A quick post for Ernie and anyone else who is curious? I can't help but feel as though I'm teaching my granny to suck eggs by explaining how I did things on these pages, but seeing as I've been asked!

I learnt quickly that a lot of what I'm familiar with won't make the transition into this genre or scale, and I find I'm second guessing a lot of the time - eg, the overscale flake of XF16 aluminium (thanks Red Baron for your PM on this). My local hobby shop crashed and burned a couple of years ago now and it's not so easy to source new paints and colours on a whim. I do however have probably the best one day show on my doorstep (East Mid's @ Hinckley-UK) So this is where I do a lot of my shopping: although they still don't have everything I'd want or have been recommended.
Anyhoo ... I digress, I'm still wary of experimenting for fear of cocking stuff up (check out the cockpit of the Morane I stuck together - it still hurts) but I am more able to judge what it is I'm looking for and how to achieve it with materials to hand now?


A couple of engine pic's for illustrative purposes..................






Unfortunately it's a grim old day here today so I'm forced to use flash and it has bounced - somewhat bleaching the colours I'm trying to show - but with a bit of squinting you might see it?

What is worth pointing out is the really shortfall in the intake-manifold to head union - it's a good half mil' shy.
The manifolds themselves ... it's an old, and a bit obscure colour from "Citadel" paints "Tin Bitz" a games workshop colour with a dopy name. But, it actually is a very good paint amongst some bad ones "Boltgun metal is another good one. They have a very tiny flake and apply very well.
The Tin Bitz is actually more of a warm bronze, perfect for a patinated copper, using Alclad "brass I've painted a line across the seam for accent and then dusted a little around the broad inboard end of the manifold, to take the yellow off this I've then dusted a further "Mr metal - Iron" over that ... this has provided the "bounce" and it looks softer in the flesh: curse this macro enlargement.
When I'm a bit further along I shall give it a coat of castor oil for effect and this should help to pick out the detail a bit more and give the whole thing more depth??


More soon hopefully .......................
KBO ............. Andi.

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Re: Sopwith Pup - RNAS : WNW's 1/32
« Reply #54 on: February 23, 2014, 10:40:14 PM »
Nice looking engine, Very well done!
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Re: Sopwith Pup - RNAS : WNW's 1/32
« Reply #55 on: February 23, 2014, 11:10:05 PM »
It's already looking good Andi and I really appreciate you telling us how you have achieved things.  I may have tinkered around for years, but I'm always learning things from this great forum. This is one "granny" who wants to learn new ways to suck eggs!

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Nigel

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Re: Sopwith Pup - RNAS : WNW's 1/32
« Reply #56 on: February 24, 2014, 12:31:17 AM »
That engine looks like heated metal to me, Andi!  There was an earlier thread where Bo or Justin listed some Citadel metallics that worked well, and you have ablely demonstrated this.  :D.  The manifold color is very convincing, and to my eye as good as I've seen.  ;D. Very nice ideed.  Thanks for sharing this.

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Re: Sopwith Pup - RNAS : WNW's 1/32
« Reply #57 on: February 24, 2014, 02:32:38 AM »
Just catching up. Splendid work so far Andi, both interior and engine are awesome.

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Re: Sopwith Pup - RNAS : WNW's 1/32
« Reply #58 on: February 24, 2014, 03:15:19 AM »
It`s a nice engine Andi.
Martin

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Re: Sopwith Pup - RNAS : WNW's 1/32
« Reply #59 on: February 24, 2014, 07:30:17 AM »
Andi, the pre-shading on the fuselage has worked out brilliantly, mate.  Very nicely done.  I really like the colours you used on the engine, you've really captured the "burnt brown" look on the manifolds.

Yer doing great work, mate.

Dal.