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Fokker D.VII (OAW) WNW by Kornbeef.
« on: March 04, 2013, 06:43:04 AM »
Okay I've been busy working on this for Aeroscales Knights of the Sky III campain but I thought I'd share with those that don't frequent Aeroscale.when time has allowed. a few mods to the kit so far including those below. I have gleaned and took a lot of pointers from the great builds of this kit I've seen here so thought it only fair to share my findings too.



the rad on my reference seems deeper, fuller so I set about modding it using of all things a spare rad from the Hanover kit as the core panels, shortening the cooling pipes a little and reattaching the mountings and fixing the complete assembly to the chin panel. The chin panel has been quite heavily modded, extended to the rear the over scale sides trimmed thinner and sanded to a more scale thickness. the panel behind has been flattened in shape thinned and the front undercarriage/strut mount made sjightly more to scale. Other mods were to the top cowl and fuselage sides to facilitate the lip seen on ALL pics of D.VII's I don't know how or why WNW failed to pick this up.





Okay a brief rundown on the construction of the fuselage.
I constructed the rear section seperately, built it compleyely without the interior module inside. Using Gaspatch 1/48th turnbuckle as terminalls for the control cables (sadly I dropped her on her tail and pulled most these free sighs. NVM)
The WNW fuselage decals were used, cut down to suit the scheme, markings and rigging diagram and the weight table applied along with serial no's taken from profile C then once dry versprayed with blue till the loz and details just shows through, Careful sanding brings the underlying setails out in high wear areas.

Now to the main inner assmbly.

I built this up in skeleton form at first just the firewall and rear panel and side structures with some of the smaller details added and fited everything else one by one finding the fit of the ammo and belt containers to be the cheif culprits on making the assembly bulge. sanding and shaving mounting points and stubs and thinning the top of the rudder support where it fits between the ammo can and the belt container helped. Added the throttle and spark advance rod, the bowdens for the MGs and the secondary throttle cables to both the stick and the throttle quadrant. The seat belts are WNW's but the shoulder belts will be scratche and draped over the turtledeck. One point that had me flumoxed for a while. WNW dictate to use the Albatros Style Dash panel layout. The D.DII anthology states OAW used the Fokker style and theres pics of the NASM OAW machine in th anthology supports this so I went the Fokker route. Luckily the Fokker version has optional decals for the fuel taps I could use from the spares. Airscale decals for the guages and she was good to go.

Now the bone of contention with WNW Lozenge, I had a nightmare, maybe its just me but WNW's lozenge refused to play ball, lifting, cracking and peeling so I soaked it off and purchased some Wood and Wire faded loz. Pics below show the comparisons between the two.
Wod and Wires isnt the easiest to use but the difference in appearance speaks for itself I feel.




I've been working on the motor too but thats top secret in development stuff. :D A broken in transit cabane is my main concern a time to fit them comes close. Still though much to do in the engine bay before that day comes.

All comments and critique welcome, any queries I'll gladly let you know what i did.

Keith
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Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW) WNW by Kornbeef.
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2013, 07:34:28 AM »
Awesome Keith, your builds always have so many well thought out details.

Looking forward to seeing your mercedes, I am sure it will be stunning.

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Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW) WNW by Kornbeef.
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2013, 08:11:01 AM »
Doing some very good work here, Keith.

I like the simple idea of extending the bottom of the chin cowl - a simple and effective solution to a poor fit in this area.  I'm surprised you had problems with the kit decals though - this was one part of kit I found to be excellent.

I will follow your build carefully as I a may go for and build another WNW Fok DVII (in the future) to see if I can improve on the problems I encountered during my build.

Good luck for the remainder of your build.

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Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW) WNW by Kornbeef.
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2013, 08:40:11 AM »
Excellent progress Keith, your modifications are well worth the effort. The Wood and Wire faded decals certainly look a lot better then the Wingnut lozenge, i have never been happy with the Wingnut lozenge colours. I'm looking forward to seeing what magic you perform on the engine, I'm sure it will be spectacular.

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Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW) WNW by Kornbeef.
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2013, 09:02:12 AM »
Added the throttle and spark advance rod, the bowdens for the MGs and the secondary throttle cables to both the stick and the throttle quadrant.
Yes, nice that you have been doing those too.

Pictures show a very nice D.VII. I do not completely understand your modifications to the chin cowl and panel with the oil hatch though. And also I am puzzled about the lip at the top cowls and/or side panels. Could you please explain? I might add these on my D.VII if I know what it is.

Now we can't wait for the engine.

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Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW) WNW by Kornbeef.
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2013, 09:48:26 AM »
Hello Keith:

You are really knocking this one out.  I was looking forward to your Hannover, apparently that is on the back burner whilst this is underway.  I have never had any problem with the WNW lozenge, except like you, I find their colors a little 'off'.  I am using the Wood and Wire lozenge on my LVG, but, they don't give you enough to complete it!  So I had to order another sheet from Roll Models who handles it as well.
I have the OAW DVII and will be following closely as you progress through this build.  It appears as if you have managed to overcome some of the hurdles in "True Kornbeef Fashion".

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Mark
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Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW) WNW by Kornbeef.
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2013, 11:33:08 AM »
thanks for the feed back guys, it really is appreciated.

Mark yes the Hannie is on the back burner along with a tripehound EIII and a few others.

Ivo
hopefully this will explain a little better what I did. On the OAW at least, maybe all types the rear of the chin cowl extends back a little further between the front undercarriage legs, I added a strip of plasticard and filled it the edge lip where the side cowls fit are much thinner in depth than the kit parts and I thinned them so the overlap with the radiator isnt quite so pronounced. Now thepanel behind the chin cowl with the access panel in lookes flatter in section than the kit part in many pics so I reprofiled and also trimmed the front part till it was flush with the cross tube between the front undercarriage legs. I sanded it thinner to acheive a more scale look to while working with it In fact I've thinned most the tinware that will be on the aircraft as most will be visible through the side panels anyway.

I hope this clarifies things some for you. my brain and fingers are already asleeep.

Keith
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Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW) WNW by Kornbeef.
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2013, 12:23:49 PM »
Excellent work so far Keith. Your comparative photos of the WNW and Wood and Wire Lozenge has convinced me; I've been meaning to order the latter for some time, now I'm just going to do it! I'm still a long way from starting my DVII's however I'll be following your progress closely.
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Lance

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Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW) WNW by Kornbeef.
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 11:55:56 PM »
Excellent work so far Keith. Your comparative photos of the WNW and Wood and Wire Lozenge has convinced me; I've been meaning to order the latter for some time, now I'm just going to do it! I'm still a long way from starting my DVII's however I'll be following your progress closely.
Cheers,
Lance
Hi Lance:

Be sure to order two sheets.  One sheet wasn't enough to do the LVG I am working on.

The stuff is real transparent as well, so a solid white undercoat is essential.  Had I rad the directions first; always a good thing, I would have realized that and been able to do some shading.  As it is, it looks real nice, a little fragile, but nothing untoward.

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Mark
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Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW) WNW by Kornbeef.
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2013, 04:38:52 AM »
Keith, your cartridge chutes look great. Are these modified kit parts or did you scratch 'em?


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Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW) WNW by Kornbeef.
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2013, 04:47:29 AM »
I modded the kit parts Bo. cutting out the centres with the cartridges I thinned everything then chamfered the inner edge to give an impression it was hollowed out. I made the backs of the chutes ot of thin plasticard. I thought it something a little different, I wasnt over impressed with the representation of cartridges really and was thinking of replacing with some old 1/35th  ammo belts that I have laying around somewhere but as I worked I thought empty looked different... and easier to paint.  :P

Having 2 spare ammo cans with the kit made me braver knowing I cold bodge something if I messed up. Any one considering modding really needs to the the ammo can sides, I'm really surprised how thick they are and how prominent they look when the kit's assembed.

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Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW) WNW by Kornbeef.
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2013, 07:27:21 AM »
I have been considering the ammo belts too. Also because they are difficult to paint correct. So I wondered whether or not there would be an aftermarket product from HGW Webgarten for instance to produce canvas ammo belts with separate ammumition rounds to slide into. After all there are seat belts, rocker arms, valve springs, etc.

I have made some pictures of the front cowls to compare them with your result. I'll not further soil this thread with my questions, but I will post them in mine. I think I do see what you mean and it is specifically apparant if you leave some of the cowls off (which I am planning to do).

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Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW) WNW by Kornbeef.
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2013, 12:10:26 PM »


Be sure to order two sheets.  One sheet wasn't enough to do the LVG I am working on.

The stuff is real transparent as well, so a solid white undercoat is essential.  Had I rad the directions first; always a good thing, I would have realized that and been able to do some shading.  As it is, it looks real nice, a little fragile, but nothing untoward.

Best
Mark
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Thanks for the feedback Mark, I'll use it!
Cheers,
Lance

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Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW) WNW by Kornbeef.
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2013, 07:04:05 PM »
Ammo belts are available from Taurus Models and should fit here.

Stefan

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Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW) WNW by Kornbeef.
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2013, 08:26:16 AM »
This is looking really good, plus the scheme is the one I've selected for my OAW when I get around to starting in a few weeks!  I googled the Wood and Wire decal range & they're available here in the UK from Hannants (under the manufacturer "Old Propellor").  It appears that they are not shaped/sized to any specific model so presumaly you have to cut to shape?  Is this why you state thay are not easy to use or are they of rather dubious quality!?