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Offline Borsos

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A third Nieuport XI, Copper State Models, 1:32
« on: January 12, 2025, 10:27:46 AM »
 Hello all

well then. . Let us start a new project: I had to set my Albatros D. I aside and get my hands on the long awaited Copper State Models Nieuport XI.
Since I saw it for the first time on Albin Denis fantastic site http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escadrille/page_centaine.htm where he collected incredible information on all French escadrilles of the Great War, I knew once I had to build Georges Peletier dOisys Nieuport 11 with a cat on the moon. His markings are also discussed here https://forum.pages14-18.com/viewtopic.php?t=49758



When Copper state announced their Nieuport XI early and revealed the decal variants, I was more than happy: It was exactly that machine . . . Well, actually not so much, as the kit represents an earlier Nieuport Pelletier-d'Oisys that also was painted in a similar way. I was not aware of the existence of an early, CDL version of these markings, I just had known the camouflaged one that had ended up in an uncomfortable way at Lemmes on 16 April 1916. Lemmes was one of the aerodromes that was used by the French during the battle of Verdun.

Georges Pelletier-d'Oisy was according to Albin Denis born on March 9, 1892 in Auch. I add all the information on him till his death in 1953 translated with deepl from French to English:

Enlisted in the 3rd Dragons regiment, May 23, 1910 - Pre-war profession Law student - Switched to aviation as a student pilot, October 14, 1912 - Brevet de pilote militaire n? 294 dated June 19, 1913 - Pilot of escadrille HF 19 from July 1, 1913 to March 1, 1915 - Appointed Mar?chal des Logis, October 3, 1913 - Appointed Adjutant, November 1, 1914 - Mentioned in the Army Order, November 2, 1914 - Military Medal and Mentioned in the Army Order, November 22, 1914 - Chevalier de la L?gion d'Honneur and Mentioned in the Army Order, April 8, 1915 - Appointed temporary Second Lieutenant, September 27, 1915 - Pilot of escadrille MS 12 from March 1, 1915 to May XX, 1916 - A citation in the Army Order, June 15, 1916 - Pilot of escadrille N 69 / SPA 69 from May XX, 1916 to February 18, 1918 - Ensured the delivery of a SPAD VII 150 HP, September 17, 1916 - Ensured the delivery of a SPAD VII 150 HP, October 20, 1916 - Ensured the delivery of a Nieuport, January 25, 1917 - Delivery of an aircraft, March 31, 1917 - Commendation in the Army Order, June 15, 1917 - Appointed lieutenant, September 27, 1917 - Hospitalized at VR 75 from XXX to February 18, 1918 - Assigned to the Fighter Group 16 staff, effective March 15, 1918 - 5 victories - Seconded to the French Air Force, June 15, 1917 - Appointed lieutenant, September 27, 1917 - Hospitalized at VR 75 from XXX to February 18, 1918 - Assigned to the Fighter Group 16 staff, effective March 15, 1918 - 5 victories in the Fighter Group 16 staff, effective March 15, 1918 - Seconded to the French Air Force, effective March 15, 1918.5 certified victories - Seconded to the French military aviation mission in Constantinople, March 1, 1919 Raid between Constantinople and Paris in 1919 - Non-stop raid between Paris and Vienna in 10 hours in 1920 - Non-stop raid between Paris and Bucharest in 19 hours in 1921 - Appointed to the Tunisian aviation group in 1922 - Raid between Casablanca and Tunis, 1700 km in 1922 - Appointed Officer of the Legion of Honor, December 30, 1923 - Raid of 19. 600 km in 20 stages between Villacoublay and Tokorosawa (Tokyo / Japan) aboard a Breguet 19A2 from April 24 to June 9, 1924 - Appointed Commander, March 25, 1930 - Appointed Commander of the L?gion d'Honneur in July 1931 - Took part in the Croisi?re Noire in 1933 - Assigned to the West African Aeronautical Command - Appointed Lieutenant-Colonel in late 1936 - Commander of the 25th Tunis Wing - Appointed Colonel, June 15, 1939 - Assigned to transport group no. 15 in May 1915 - Air brigadier general, May 1, 1945 - Died in Marrakech (Morocco), May 15, 1953 - General Georges Pelletier d'Oisy has been laid to rest in the Auch cemetery since March 29, 1958.

And after all, he obviously really loved cats and moons. Here is a later potograph of him stationed in Tunis in 1922:
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9022838p

I dug out all Nieuport 11 literature I could find. I do not think that I will really need them as this kit is fantastically researched. But hey, the books look good next to the kit in the photo, don?t they?


And I started to build. The detail in the cockpit alone is amazing, the fit is fantastic. And there is a little Zoukei Mura flair around that cockpit: Much of the details under the tank will never be visible again if you close the fuselage, what I intend to do. I painted these details anyway. But that took its time . . .

One thing I would highly recommend before painting or glueing something is to drill all those tiny plastic tongues (can one say that?) on the wooden fuselage frame parts for rigging.













Au revoir (Hey, it is a French plane!)
Andreas
« Last Edit: January 12, 2025, 10:35:47 AM by Borsos »
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Offline Monty

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Re: A third Nieuport XI, Copper State Models, 1:32
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2025, 07:53:30 PM »
That is a truly great start, Andreas! Your lovely touch brings out the finesse and fine detail in the superb mouldings... Oh, dear, I can see myself acquiring this magnificent kit... Regards, Marc

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Re: A third Nieuport XI, Copper State Models, 1:32
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2025, 07:57:47 PM »
Lovely start Andreas

The kit looks an absolute beauty and I would be sorely tempted but for my display space available (even a tiddler like this is considerably bigger than my usual fare) ;)

Looking forward to seeing the different routes taken by the various modellers as the builds progress  8)

Paul
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Re: A third Nieuport XI, Copper State Models, 1:32
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2025, 08:33:15 PM »
Excellent start, Andreas! And nice that you are now also building the CSM Nieuport, which makes things even more interesting.
Many thanks also for the comprehensive information on the pilot and aircraft.
Greetings
Joerg

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Re: A third Nieuport XI, Copper State Models, 1:32
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2025, 06:13:35 AM »
Lovely start Andreas, it looks like you are racing ahead of me! Lovely tones on the wood and everything is coming together very nicely so far....

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Re: A third Nieuport XI, Copper State Models, 1:32
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2025, 08:43:12 AM »
Thank you Marc, Paul, J?rg and Nigel! Marc you will not be disappointed if you purchase this kit!

Some minor progress on the seat. The backrest with its lightening holes is difficult to reproduce as an injection molded part


CSM sell a 3D printed upgrade. Despite I had ordered some of their 3D printed upgrades, I had not ordered a printed backrest.
So I made my own

I took some magic sculpt and a punch-and-die set to make a cushion
« Last Edit: January 20, 2025, 11:58:50 PM by Borsos »
"Deux armées aux prises, c'est une grande armée qui se suicide."
Barbusse.
"Ein Berg in Deutschland kann doch einen Berg in Frankreich nicht beleidigen. Oder ein Fluß oder ein Wald oder ein Weizenfeld."
Remarque.

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Re: A third Nieuport XI, Copper State Models, 1:32
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2025, 07:22:34 PM »
Nice work! I cheated and got the 3D part....... ;)

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Re: A third Nieuport XI, Copper State Models, 1:32
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2025, 12:51:38 AM »
I like it very much. Well done, Andreas!
Joerg

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Re: A third Nieuport XI, Copper State Models, 1:32
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2025, 02:15:05 AM »
Excellent start Andreas! Lovely wood tones and terrific work on the seat back!
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Re: A third Nieuport XI, Copper State Models, 1:32
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2025, 05:22:11 PM »
great job on the seat!
need to remember your procedure for future builds!

ciao
edo

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Re: A third Nieuport XI, Copper State Models, 1:32
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2025, 11:56:54 PM »
Thanks Joerg, Nigel, Rick and Edo!

Yesterday morning French military police rung my door. Given my nationality, they said, I would be quite suspicious to delay intentionally important armament production. It was January and around Verdun the enemy would show various signs of preparing for a large scale offensive. So they needed fighters and they needed them fast. The other producers, one from England and another guy from Hamburg were faster than me. This was their last warning....

Well I think you can just imagine my worries, so I got myself on the workbench last evening and finished the cockpit. Here I am now...(and I do not know why my camera has this tinge of red again):















Superflouus to repeat: Fit has been excellent all arount yet.

"Deux armées aux prises, c'est une grande armée qui se suicide."
Barbusse.
"Ein Berg in Deutschland kann doch einen Berg in Frankreich nicht beleidigen. Oder ein Fluß oder ein Wald oder ein Weizenfeld."
Remarque.

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Re: A third Nieuport XI, Copper State Models, 1:32
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2025, 04:18:17 AM »
Beautiful and precise work, Andreas, I like it very much. Now you've done the most time-consuming work. I'm already looking forward to your next update.
Greetings
Joerg

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Re: A third Nieuport XI, Copper State Models, 1:32
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2025, 07:33:11 AM »
Cool here in this forum a complete Nieuport 11 squadron is being built.
Nice work on the little bird Andreas - and the Albatros D.I has to wait?

Servus
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Re: A third Nieuport XI, Copper State Models, 1:32
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2025, 04:16:41 PM »
really cool!
i think that the leather seat turned out really well!

as for the red tint, it could be the white balance of your camera. maybe the light you use is a filament bulb? that will shift to the red the white balance of the camera. there should be the way to change that directly on the camra or, if you shoot in raw, you should be able to adjust it in post production.

ciao
edo

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Re: A third Nieuport XI, Copper State Models, 1:32
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2025, 07:18:56 PM »
That looks great! It's come together really well and looks very convincing. It was worth drilling those extra holes in the seat as it looks as good as the 3D part now. Lovely work.

I'm worried the French military police will be turning up at my door soon as I am spending too much time looking for photos and references for the paint job..... I had better get a move on!  ;) :)