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Offline RAGIII

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Re: Eduard 1/72nd Nieuport 17 Batch Build
« Reply #45 on: October 15, 2024, 03:18:40 AM »
The pace is not important Warren! The build continues to be excellent.
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Re: Eduard 1/72nd Nieuport 17 Batch Build
« Reply #46 on: October 15, 2024, 04:23:52 AM »
Thanks Rick, I continue to experience a LOT of negative modeling because:
- It's hard relearning old skills
- I keep trying new things. Why? It's the only I'll get better.

I very foolishly snapped one of the interplane struts this weekend. So for I've managed to snap at least one from every one of these (3) I've been working on. Negative modeling!!! >:( >:( >:(

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Re: Eduard 1/72nd Nieuport 17 Batch Build
« Reply #47 on: February 10, 2025, 01:06:35 AM »
Forumites,
               A good Sunday morning to you, what a blessing today is. I haven't given up or shelved this build. In fact it went silent and deep because I've been working with Paul and Eric Fisher of Aero-Rarities to design and 3D-print some needed accessories to enhance my, and now your, build of this kit.

https://aerorarities.com/products/nieuport-xvii-survival-pack

One of the biggest stumbling blocks, to me at least, was the cowling included in this kit. It doesn't have the exhaust holes on the bottom and the sprue attachment points make it hard to clean up without buggering up the edge detail or the separation joint on the Type 2 cowling. Well, one thing has led to another and now we have a stupendously awesome set to enhance these builds. I only wish I was not as far along on mine so I could utilize the beautiful interior bits, but I sure will use them the next build.

I've been a really good boy and keeping my mouth shut about this.

Warren

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Re: Eduard 1/72nd Nieuport 17 Batch Build
« Reply #48 on: February 10, 2025, 08:27:17 AM »
Trying to replicate wood grain in our scale can be an exercise on frustration, doubly so on 1/72nd scale struts. I'm not satisfied with my efforts with artists oils. Here is an example of my efforts at this with water-color pencils on the right.
Feedback appreciated.

Warren

« Last Edit: February 10, 2025, 09:17:26 AM by WD »

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Re: Eduard 1/72nd Nieuport 17 Batch Build
« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2025, 03:01:33 AM »
It's really hard to see from the photos - I would say if you are happy then go for it! You might want to look at Tim's Mises-Aviatik build as he has done some nice woodgrain with oils in 1/72.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2025, 08:06:22 PM by NigelR »

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Re: Eduard 1/72nd Nieuport 17 Batch Build
« Reply #50 on: February 11, 2025, 03:48:47 AM »
Hi Warren
Nice to see some more progress on these. I know exactly what you mean about adding the holes and cutting the cowls without damaging the edge. I also broke one of the interplane struts on mine through my own clumsiness so I feel your pain (Incidentally I've probably got a few struts spare from the versions I've built so if you're short just let me know and I'll dive into the spares box)

FWIW the wood grain on the struts of mine was done using yellow ochre over an off white, but it's barely noticeable on the finished model so press on with what you've done because I'm sure it'll look fine

Paul
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Re: Eduard 1/72nd Nieuport 17 Batch Build
« Reply #51 on: February 11, 2025, 04:19:28 AM »
Thanks Nigel and Paul. Paul, I've already broken mine, twice!  >:( :P :-\

I'm still undecided about this, might change it.

Warren

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Re: Eduard 1/72nd Nieuport 17 Batch Build
« Reply #52 on: February 27, 2025, 04:02:22 AM »
Great progress Warren! Keep on going!!
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Re: Eduard 1/72nd Nieuport 17 Batch Build
« Reply #53 on: February 27, 2025, 06:18:08 PM »
Goof choise etween the Tarascon zigomar...
Do you know this picture ?





Zigomar 3 is not ad too:





If you are interested, in Tarascon plane's, following this link in this french WWI modelers forum, you will find those decals a friend of mine did, with all the zigomar markings at any scale:



https://1914.forumactif.com/t497-decals-de-l-ensemble-des-avions-zigomar-de-tarascon-a-toute-echelle-1-72-1-48-1-32-1-24?highlight=Zigomar

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"Une montagne en Allemagne ne peut pas offenser une montagne en France. Ou une rivière ou une forêt ou un champ de blé."
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Re: Eduard 1/72nd Nieuport 17 Batch Build
« Reply #54 on: February 28, 2025, 07:43:05 AM »


If you are interested, in Tarascon plane's, following this link in this french WWI modelers forum, you will find those decals a friend of mine did, with all the zigomar markings at any scale:



https://1914.forumactif.com/t497-decals-de-l-ensemble-des-avions-zigomar-de-tarascon-a-toute-echelle-1-72-1-48-1-32-1-24?highlight=Zigomar
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Xan! Yes, that photo is part of my inspiration to do Zigomar 4. I got Bruno's decal set a good while back, but unfortunately, when he printed it he cut off the rooster's head.  :'(  I loved the colors of his roundels, but he made the ones for he upper wing far too large.  :'(

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Re: Eduard 1/72nd Nieuport 17 Batch Build
« Reply #55 on: February 28, 2025, 07:44:58 AM »
Goof choise etween the Tarascon zigomar...
Do you know this picture ?





Xan, help me out with the windshield here please. I thought it was the later one that curved and wrapped around, but now I'm not so sure.

Warren

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Re: Eduard 1/72nd Nieuport 17 Batch Build
« Reply #56 on: February 28, 2025, 05:25:34 PM »
Hi, I do not know no more pics of this plane.

It seems to be a clasical wind shield...

"Zwei Armeen, die sich bekämpfen, sind eine grosse Armee, die Selbstmord an sich übt."
Barbusse.
"Une montagne en Allemagne ne peut pas offenser une montagne en France. Ou une rivière ou une forêt ou un champ de blé."
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Re: Eduard 1/72nd Nieuport 17 Batch Build
« Reply #57 on: February 28, 2025, 10:58:09 PM »
Xan, that's what I was thinking as well looking at that image.

Warren

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Re: Eduard 1/72nd Nieuport 17 Batch Build
« Reply #58 on: March 09, 2025, 06:53:04 AM »
My apologies for being so silent on this build, but experiments take time, don't they? I have spent a few months working with Aero-Rarities to come up with some helpful things in building the 1/72nd Eduard Nieuport 17. I cannot say enough good things about Paul and Eric Fisher, the two brothers that are the proprietors of the business, they are so enthusiastic and easy to work with. After much back and forth of test fitting, reworking, test-fitting again, and months of work on their part, they've come up with a Nieuport 17 Survival Pack. It started out with me wanting a new cowling to replace the one from the kit. Long story short, the package contains two different cowlings, a couple of tailplanes (much thinner and more to scale than the kit part) seat and framework, fuel pulsator, tachometer, etc. Here are some images of the latter Nieuport 17 cowling, which is SO much better than what's in the kit. (Also my first time ever spraying metallics, that was quite an experience.)

Note the very fine rivet detail around the front opening, impossible for Eduard to achieve with injection molding. Also, much finer and riveted joints on the upper side


We now have a recess indicating the retaining strap on the back as well as the reinforcements around the landing gear leg cutout, missing entirely from the kit part.





The upper view shows the much refined cowling joints and the filler cap for the oil tank, completely missing from the kit part.

I have no connection to Aero-Rarities other than being an extremely satisfied customer. I look forward to buying more of their products and hopefully working with them on future projects.

https://aerorarities.com/

Warren

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Re: Eduard 1/72nd Nieuport 17 Batch Build
« Reply #59 on: March 09, 2025, 09:24:49 AM »
That New Cowling is excellent as is your paint work on both the engine and cowling!
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