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Re: Lukgraph Albatros D.III (Oeffag)
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2023, 03:40:08 AM »
I believe the engine is the most significant difference.  If I recall, the engines do look different - the manifold and maybe the valve timing gear.

Hi Ken, You may be right.
The engine advertised for the kit is the Daimler 225 hp engine, which was fitted to the 253 series.
If the kit is a 253, it would seem strange to supply decals for 153 series schemes.
It would be interesting to find out the visible differences between the 200 and 225 hp engines.

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Re: Lukgraph Albatros D.III (Oeffag)
« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2023, 04:39:05 AM »
These are not the best pics, the first one lacks detail, the other ones are done in blender.

200 HP




220 HP

But I think they are good enough for a first assumption that there are not too many differences between a 200 HP Austro-Daimler and a 225 one (that are visible under engine covers on a 1:32 scale model).
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Re: Lukgraph Albatros D.III (Oeffag)
« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2023, 10:10:19 PM »
After some researching, I was thinking of the 160 hp version compared to the 225 hp version.
The 200 hp version and 225 hp version may very well look similar, just changing the bore or stroke to get a higher compression ratio and more horsepower.

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Re: Lukgraph Albatros D.III (Oeffag)
« Reply #33 on: May 04, 2023, 07:41:04 AM »
After some researching, I was thinking of the 160 hp version compared to the 225 hp version.
The 200 hp version and 225 hp version may very well look similar, just changing the bore or stroke to get a higher compression ratio and more horsepower.

Hi Ken,
I've managed to obtain a copy of the Windsock data file No.19 (Albatros D.III (OEF) by P.M. Grosz).
It has a few, if indistinct, shots of the Daimler 200 hp engine (Series 153).
Nothing of the 225 hp Daimler though.
It seems the initial 53 series (45 aircraft in total) were fitted with the 185 hp Daimler engine.
Once the 200 hp Daimler became available, they were fitted into the 153 series aircraft.
The 225 hp Daimler powered Series 253 aircraft started to be delivered in May of 1918.
By October 1918, all but 29 were delivered.

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Re: Lukgraph Albatros D.III (Oeffag)
« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2023, 07:32:47 PM »
Hi all,
Latest from Lukgraph,

Mike

Albatros D.III Oeffag 253 in Polish Service - update
This will be a separate model set next to the Austro-Hungarian set.



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Re: Lukgraph Albatros D.III (Oeffag)
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2023, 08:54:51 PM »
According to lukgraph‘s homepage preorder starts next week.   :)

Dear Edgar, what about a double Austro-Hungarian release with the Oeffag D. III AND the Copper State Hansa Brandenburg D. I?
An irresistible idea? Yes, I agree….  ;)

Andreas
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Re: Lukgraph Albatros D.III (Oeffag)
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2023, 09:00:05 PM »
According to lukgraph‘s homepage preorder starts next week.   :)

Dear Edgar, what about a double Austro-Hungarian release with the Oeffag D. III AND the Copper State Hansa Brandenburg D. I?
An irresistible idea? Yes, I agree….  ;)

Andreas
Hi Andreas
once we will be ready with the HB D.I we will announce it once again
and after, the OEFFAG will follow, no doubts

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Re: Lukgraph Albatros D.III (Oeffag)
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2023, 10:47:08 PM »
Nice!!!

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Re: Lukgraph Albatros D.III (Oeffag)
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2023, 11:54:07 PM »
Hi all,
Engine shots and this time separate 3D printed parts,

Mike

"Albatros D.III Oeffag - update
The first castings are ready - everything is perfect.
Time for the A-D engine and 3D parts - this time the engine will be divided into several elements - for easier access to painting.
We will start pre-ordering next week."



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Re: Lukgraph Albatros D.III (Oeffag)
« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2023, 10:08:09 PM »
Preorders have started:

https://lukgraph.pl/

Andreas

Edit: I can see the nose as a separate part here:

https://lukgraph.pl/en_GB/p/Albatros-D.III-Oeffag-132-scale-Pre-order/239#galleryName=productGallery,imageNumber=3-copied

Could be a hint for a 153 and/or 53 version in the future.
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Re: Lukgraph Albatros D.III (Oeffag)
« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2023, 10:02:44 AM »
According to lukgraph‘s homepage preorder starts next week.   :)

Dear Edgar, what about a double Austro-Hungarian release with the Oeffag D. III AND the Copper State Hansa Brandenburg D. I?
An irresistible idea? Yes, I agree….  ;)

Andreas
Hi Andreas
once we will be ready with the HB D.I we will announce it once again
and after, the OEFFAG will follow, no doubts

Edgar , with your quality and unbeaten prices, for sure competitors will be wiped off . Looking forward to your statement that more AH subjects will be announced in the near future

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Re: Lukgraph Albatros D.III (Oeffag)
« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2023, 06:46:30 PM »
Stumbled on this site by accident -looks like a treasure trove of drawings and profiles, even showing nail lines and such:
https://flyingbat.web.fc2.com/series153_late.html
There are also cockpit and seat views, engines, factory markings and stencils, etc, and sources quoted. The navigation is not very intuitive but somehow I never found out about this site before.

And for the first time I've been weak, and pre-ordered one...  :o
(the A-H version, though the Polish one is really tempting, too!)
I have been tempted to add a 185Ps A-D engine as well to see if I could do a 53.x aircraft but after reviewing the total cost I resisted :D

Jeroen

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Re: Lukgraph Albatros D.III (Oeffag)
« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2023, 07:48:50 PM »
Hi Jeroen,
That's a great find.
Thanks for posting the site link,

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Re: Lukgraph Albatros D.III (Oeffag)
« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2023, 09:49:58 PM »
Happy to share, hope it's useful! :)
In case there are Linux users that want go do a quick grab of the whole thing for saving it offline, here's what I did to make a quick copy before my kids get home:

Code: [Select]
wget -r -p https://flyingbat.web.fc2.comfrom for example your download directory. Will only work on Linux, though. And you'll also get the rest of the site. You can alter the URL to get only specific parts if you like.

Jeroen

PS While having a quick look I did notice some interesting little things (that seem easily fixable), such as the different instrument panel of the Lukgraph kit that does not seem to have space for the internal guns and that the stencil for the 153 series should probably read DM200 instead of DM225.
Also AFAIK the 153 did not have scalloped ailerons and elevator.
I'm doing a 253 anyway, but if you want to do both a 153 and strive for accuracy some further research might be needed.

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Re: Lukgraph Albatros D.III (Oeffag)
« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2023, 11:35:11 PM »
That’s a great find, thanks for sharing!
Andreas
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Barbusse.
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