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Re: TP's WNW 1/32nd Scale Biff
« Reply #120 on: December 13, 2012, 12:54:52 AM »
  Steve,
If you're interested in ordering Xtracolour paints I would suggest giving Roll Models a call. They've been in business for years so I'd imagine they could tell you whether or not they could ship paints to Canada. Hope this helps you a bit my old friend.
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Re: TP's WNW 1/32nd Scale Biff
« Reply #121 on: December 14, 2012, 05:53:36 AM »
If you revisit Post 98 on this thread, you'll see that I fitted both the upper and lower vertical fins to the fuselage, then painted them. Subsequently I painted the horizontal stab as well, upper and lower colours, and today I fitted it to the fuselage.

Pay attention. Don't do it this way!

I found that the portion of the horizontal stab that fits into the rear slot in the fuselage doesn't fit all that well. I had to file out the opening and sand down the centre stab area to get it to fit. As well, the two "pins" on the stab that fit into the fuselage were three kinds of beggars to get into place, with resultant damage to my paint job as I had to force them down into their respective openings. Nothing serious, but I'll have to sand the affected areas lightly and repaint, plus fill the slight gap between the stab and fuselage surfaces.



I recommend that you fit the horizontal stab before you paint either the stab or fuselage: this won't damage the plastic, and you'll save time painting. Apply the CDL to the underside, mask that off, then do the PC10. Also, be wary of the diagram in Step 10 regarding the fitting of the elevators. The unwary might get them on "inside out." Refer to any of the colour drawings at the back of the instruction booklet to be sure of just how the elevators fit.

Hope this helps. Thx for visiting!
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Gary

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Re: TP's WNW 1/32nd Scale Biff
« Reply #122 on: December 14, 2012, 08:37:50 AM »
Thanks for the tip, Gary, it's filed for future use.  It looks like the recovery process is underway, mate.  You must have been a tad miffed when the stab's didn't slot in.

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Re: TP's WNW 1/32nd Scale Biff
« Reply #123 on: December 14, 2012, 08:55:14 AM »
Gary,
    Thanks for the "Heads up" on this, I knew there had to be some good to being so far behind you! Just about finished with the painting/fixing task on the Daughter's place, getting an hour here & there daily on my Build but very little progress overall. I'm adding just a few more controls and plumbing to the cockpit module, once that' complete I'll post an update with photos.
   Nice recovery, I'll be real careful when I get to that stage.
Cheers,
Lance

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Re: TP's WNW 1/32nd Scale Biff
« Reply #124 on: December 14, 2012, 09:00:37 AM »
  Gary,
Great recovery my old friend. Looks as if you've everything squared away now.
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Re: TP's WNW 1/32nd Scale Biff
« Reply #125 on: December 14, 2012, 10:07:55 AM »
Pay attention. Don't do it this way!

I'm 'a listening!

This is developing into an exceptionally good build log Gary. Especially since I'm one fellow who will prosper from your experience when the going got rough.

Hmmm . . . what to do when it comes time for PC10. My only other kick at the cat was decidedly more green than brown.

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Re: TP's WNW 1/32nd Scale Biff
« Reply #126 on: December 17, 2012, 09:45:02 AM »
Lance, Chris and I have been looking at which of the five kit variants (A-E) would equate to Captain McKeever's aircraft. We opted for the "A" variant for the following reasons:

a. McK’s a/c was serialled “A-7288”
b. On Page 6 of the WNW instruction, the kit “A” version is the only one that uses what appears to be an earlier version of the undercarriage. The rest use a possibly later, stronger u/c version.
c. Page 21 shows the colour schemes. The kit “A” version is serialled “B1112,” which is obviously later than McK’s A-7288. The remaining four a/c are all serialled further along in the sequencing: B1330, C814, C4619 and D8084. If the “A” version is the earliest of the five marking options offered, then McK’s Biff must have been built earlier than the kit “A” version.
d. By comparison, then, McK’s a/c must be of the same vintage as the kit “A” version, and therefore would be a kit “A” version build.

McK was posted to 11 Sqn May 1917. 11 Sqn converted to Biffs in June 1917. It is almost certain that the squadron received several, if not all, a/c bearing an early series of serial numbers, hence A-7288, A-7127, A-7231, as shown on pages 2 and 3 of the Windsock Datafile for the Biff. The old Profile on the Biff provides the following quote: "Two hundred more Bristols, numbered A7101 – A7300, had been ordered in November [1916].” These were the first F.2B variants, after the initial batch of fifty, A3305 – A3354 (F.2A variant) had been delivered. A further reference indicates that the RFC serial allocation for B901 - B1500 was the first major block assigned for the year 1917. We find the kit "A" version (B1330) in this block of serials. We believe that these references further substantiate the use of the “A” kit variant as the way to go for McK’s a/c.

Thanks to Chris and Lance for their input into our discussions. Happy to hear from any Forumite who has anything further to add!  :)
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Gary

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Re: TP's WNW 1/32nd Scale Biff
« Reply #127 on: December 20, 2012, 05:06:21 AM »
Another mini-update today:



Clockwise from top: fuselage now pretty much painted; wheels done save for dullcoting and a bit of weathering; elevators painted; undercarriage parts painted; rudder CDL'ed in preparation for decalling; and first coat of CDL applied to the wing undersurfaces (one errant aileron being done separately).

Rib taping, gunner topdecking and underwing "framing" to come shortly. In the meantime, I may cast a surreptitious glance or two at the engine assembly: nothing like "concurrent activity" to keep us active.

Lance, Chris and I are trying to pin down a few details of Andrew McKeever's a/c: propeller, exhaust pipes, number of Lewis guns and so forth. A-7288 was apparently the last Biff that he flew (November 1917), and was the one on which he and his observer/gunner scored four victories in one action on 30 November 1917. We'll get these posted as soon as we can.
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Gary

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Re: TP's WNW 1/32nd Scale Biff
« Reply #128 on: December 20, 2012, 05:19:02 AM »
Gary, coming along nicely, now -

We all have those moments when things go wrong, but it's how you deal with them that's the real trick!

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Re: TP's WNW 1/32nd Scale Biff
« Reply #129 on: December 20, 2012, 05:35:05 AM »
Thanks, Dave. "The Season" certainly cuts into the available time, so I'm glad to have made a bit of progress over the last several days!
Cheers!
Gary

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Re: TP's WNW 1/32nd Scale Biff
« Reply #130 on: December 20, 2012, 06:56:46 AM »
Gary,
   It's looking mighty fine! At this rate you'll be ready to enter another in the Group Build by New Years............ the tortoise and the snail, in the interim, continue to plod along. This is day #3 of "I'll finish up the cockpit today" for me, just keep finding more little "things" to add. Ah well, that's the fun of it!
Cheers,
Lance ::)

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Re: TP's WNW 1/32nd Scale Biff
« Reply #131 on: December 20, 2012, 09:29:34 AM »
You're making great progress Gary and it's all looking top drawer! I'm lagging way behind but am definitely enjoying seeing how you're approaching your build.

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Chris
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Re: TP's WNW 1/32nd Scale Biff
« Reply #132 on: December 21, 2012, 09:53:46 AM »
Hello Gary:

Indeed you are making progress and that is the key.  Progress.  I get a kick out of the window into the "Bench" area too.  I see you and others using similar products and procedures.  The obligatory piece of styrofoam, tooth picks and the like.  All part of the modeling experience.
Looking forward to the next update.

Best wishes for the Christmas season and New Years.

Mark
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Re: TP's WNW 1/32nd Scale Biff
« Reply #133 on: December 21, 2012, 11:39:08 PM »
Thanks, gentlemen, for your kind words and support. I'm in to something of a "Piece Work" phase right now as I wait for the wings to dry. Got the wheels dullcoted and weathered a bit, started the basics of the engine, and finally sorted out the "errant aileron!" All small stuff, but they keep the build lurching and bumping along. Next big thing is the wing undersurfaces, then some major assembly can go ahead. But, as noted elsewhere, It's "The Season," so "going ahead" doesn't mean at any great rate of knots! Plus which, today is December 21: if the Mayans did get it right, this might be my last posting on this thread. Stay tuned!  ;)
Cheers!
Gary

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Re: TP's WNW 1/32nd Scale Biff
« Reply #134 on: January 02, 2013, 07:34:09 AM »
...and we've survived the Mayan Apocalypse, Christmas and New Year's. By the way, Happy New Year to all Forumites!  ;D

Just a short note to say that I'll really be slowing down on this build for a few weeks. I put another project on the shelf to start this one, but it's a contract build and the due date starts to loom ahead. I expect to get it done by no later than the end of the month, notwithstanding a few exercises on the schedule. So I'll bid you all a "see you soon," and wish you all the very best as you progress with your respective builds. And I will drop by from time to time to see how you are all doing, perhaps to filtch a few hints and tips if the opportunity presents itself! Good luck to everyone!  :)
Cheers!
Gary

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