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Offline Gisbod

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Flying Fokker!
« on: December 23, 2018, 05:11:02 AM »
Hello all,

Following on from my idea about a model in flight encased in resin:

https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=10013.0


My first attempt will be a Flying Fokker. Or to be more precise, the 1/72 Eduard Fokker Dr.1 (although I will experiment on something old first). As it’s in flight I would need a pilot of course, so I’ve got a couple of very nice WW1 pilots from PJ Productions. These really are super for scale. The next problem will be a spinning prop - happy to listen to ideas on this?















Not sure of the scheme yet, the Eduard decal sheet gives some lovely options! I wouldn’t normally be drawn to the obvious Red Baron one, but it may look good in resin?





Guy

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Offline krow113

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Re: Flying Fokker!
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2018, 05:54:29 AM »
Cut clear plastic subtle airbrushing and a blured terrain print worked for this display:

A wooden prop offers some unique challenges , I did about 7 diff props before deciding on this method (and still would do it diff today ) . I also researched the idea as well and still chose this method.

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Re: Flying Fokker!
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2018, 06:13:12 AM »

Thanks Steve, that was my initial thought too.. looks good!



and still would do it diff today



How so?

Guy
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Offline krow113

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Re: Flying Fokker!
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2018, 06:24:10 AM »
Guy
 I would add more dynamic motion to the props by curving the blades and making the end like a 'whipsaw' with a tapered end. But thinking about this 2 things come to mind; the Tempest is moving at 400 mph and is obviously a much diff aircraft.
 This is an effective method as I watched at shows guys doing double takes thinking the prop is spinning!
I'll think about the diff here , wooden prop , slower speed. Still concerned about the heat generated , how will that affect rigging , and thin clear prop blades, hmmmmm....

Offline Gisbod

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Re: Flying Fokker!
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2018, 06:37:39 AM »
Yes Steve, it may not work, but I am at least going to try!

I think you’re right about a very thin clear plastic prop melting with the resin curing. I’m going to speak to some resin companies about how best to go about it - but they’re all shut for Xmas at the moment..

But feel free to keep the ideas coming!

Guy
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Re: Flying Fokker!
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2018, 04:06:52 AM »
My pilot (Manfred) just wanted to say hi...

As good as I’m likely to get him in 1/72  ::)









I think I’ll add a fluttering scarf at some point.


Christmas cheer


Guy
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Offline aliluke

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Re: Flying Fokker!
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2018, 10:40:51 AM »
Hi Guy
I will watch this with interest. At 1:72 Manfred looks incredible. Not sure how he'll feel about being encased in resin... 8)

Cheers and Merry Christmas,
Alistair
It ain't a hobby if you have to hurry.

Offline Gisbod

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Re: Flying Fokker!
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2018, 06:20:19 PM »
Thanks Alistair,

I probably ought to paint his jacket black? What about his helmet?

Bit further on. The great fun about these kits is they go together so quickly!

Guy




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Offline RAGIII

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Re: Flying Fokker!
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2018, 08:40:55 PM »
You are certainly moving along quickly on this project. I hope all works out with the resin!
RAGIII
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Offline Gisbod

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Re: Flying Fokker!
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2018, 10:19:37 PM »
I’m pleased with the guns!

Tbh they look better than most of my 1/32 efforts..  ???


Guy



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Re: Flying Fokker!
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2018, 05:39:34 AM »
really gorgeous guns! they really semm 1:32....
can’ wait to see how it will unfold!
ciao
edo

Offline Rob_Owens

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Re: Flying Fokker!
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2018, 02:41:33 PM »
Great attention to detail, but since the engine is a rotary it will be spinning along with the prop. . .

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Re: Flying Fokker!
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2018, 05:09:46 PM »
Thanks Edo  :)

Rob - I completely forgot that! But I think it may be beyond my technical abilities...

I’ve got a layer of Red on!





Christmas morning here...  8)



Guy


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Re: Flying Fokker!
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2019, 01:09:20 AM »
Thought I’d post back in the ‘under construction’ section as it seemed more appropriate..

3rd attempt at a prop. What do you think?





Bear in mind the ‘prop’ part isn’t stuck down yet to the disc.


In another corner of my workbench (kitchen) I’ve started on the resin. I’ve filled up the interior to prevent air bubbles in the final casting. Little bit over an ooze out, but I don’t think that will be a problem once encased in resin. It took a fair time to fill - by drip feeding with the pipette - as it finds its way around the nooks and crannies. It takes 24-48 hrs to set. The long setting time reduces the heat produced in curing - so I’m (reasonably) confident it won’t melt...








The resin is a slow curing epoxy.. and very expensive!  :P


Guy
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P.O. John Gillespie Magee 1941

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Re: Flying Fokker!
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2019, 06:21:08 AM »
    I like your new approach to the prop Guy, looks much more realistic and "subtle' compared to the earlier one.
Cheers,
Lance