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Offline ALBATROS1234

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Re: Help, I'm having engine trouble!
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2015, 07:36:37 AM »
i didnt take it as you were doing anything but agreeing with me george. from other postings i have gathered from some others that true scale is the only thing that counts. and thats fine, to each his own. i do strive for this as much as is possible. but to me and again i say "to me" what is important is if it looks right. when i put the vector in the dr.1 cowl even if i cut off a few rockers to my eye i can tell that the exposed rockers wouldnt clear the cowl. i only mean to say so what if an engine is 28mm across or 29mm across if i can put it in my kit without wasting hours trying to force a round peg in a square hole and if it looks the part thats my goal. it should be enjoyable and fighting a fit problem is annoying not fun. its like the 1/48 mercedes engine issue. the roden engine(closer to true scale) looks better than eduards. am companies(vector,pavla,etc.) use rodens block to make their resin engine masters. they dont fit in eduard,special hobby,mirage,etc.etc.kits. i dont see why someone cant make an engine that fits 90% of 1/48 kits without having to compromise this that or chopping up the kit or engine to make it fit. i would rather compromise scale and have an engine thats 1/49 or 1/50 but looks great and i dont have to fight to get it in. you have to compromise its just what you choose to compromise.

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Re: Help, I'm having engine trouble!
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2015, 07:54:05 AM »
Meanwhile, maybe these installation drawings are of possible interest...




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Re: Help, I'm having engine trouble!
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2015, 08:05:27 AM »
Monosoupape in pup :





... it seems the special cowling is bulged to accommodate the slightly diameter larger motor... (?)

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Re: Help, I'm having engine trouble!
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2015, 08:13:19 AM »
Great drawings, Bo. Thanks. The WnW kit comes with the 80 hp Le Rhone, not the Gnome. The photos you just posted explain everything. Either I build a whole new cowl with the bottom open like a DR.1, or I use the Gnome.

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Re: Help, I'm having engine trouble!
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2015, 08:18:28 AM »
that does make sense. what a fancy cowl. i knew they had both versions and knew they had diff cowls but never investigated it to the point where i could see there was that much of a size diff.

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Re: Help, I'm having engine trouble!
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2015, 08:21:24 AM »
Well, thanks to Bo, the problem is solved. My Gnome is going in a DH.2 and I'm building the WnW Le Rhone for the Pup. I think a good paint job will do the Le Rhone justice, and I can get on with my build. :)

George

PS: Bo, you are an encyclopedia!

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Re: Help, I'm having engine trouble!
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2015, 08:25:44 AM »
PS: Bo, you are an encyclopedia!

not hardly, but i do know how to do an image search  ;)

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Re: Help, I'm having engine trouble!
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2015, 10:02:24 AM »
The fancy cowl is available from Brian Fawcett patterns.

Oh really? Well that changes things again. Flip flop, flip flop, oh what to do! ;D

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Re: Help, I'm having engine trouble!
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2015, 11:27:45 AM »
Personally, I think your idea of doing the Pup on skids is really great and I hope you will stick with that. Considering you're amazing painting skills the WnW engine will be just fine once it's hidden in the cowling.

Further,  I really look forward  to seeing you do the DH2 using the amazing engine you have already completed.

Lastly, I would love to see you do this other Pup with the aftermarket cowl  and another engine from Taurus.

 So that's the word from the president of your fan club.

Cheers from NYC,

President Michael

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Re: Help, I'm having engine trouble!
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2015, 12:54:23 PM »
Personally, I think your idea of doing the Pup on skids is really great and I hope you will stick with that. Considering you're amazing painting skills the WnW engine will be just fine once it's hidden in the cowling.

Further,  I really look forward  to seeing you do the DH2 using the amazing engine you have already completed.

Lastly, I would love to see you do this other Pup with the aftermarket cowl  and another engine from Taurus.

 So that's the word from the president of your fan club.

Cheers from NYC,

President Michael

Thank you, Michael! :D

And I was wondering what I was going to do with the rest of this year. You have it all planned out for me! ;D

I actually ordered a DH.2 the day I discovered the engine didn't fit. Gotta have a backup plan!

BTW, my Pup on skids is still the plan. I'm posting in the wrong GB thread if I add wheels instead of skids. In fact, I was just looking at good plan drawings of the skids from the Windsock Datafile last night. I'm also ready to solder the fuse frame together which is made from 1/32 square brass bars. I'll post pics if my weekend of soldering is successful.

George

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Re: Help, I'm having engine trouble!
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2015, 04:06:17 PM »
Sorry, only just seen this. The cowl for the mono-engined Pup is, as Justin says, available from Brian Fawcett, part number BLF32005

http://www.fawcettmodelsandpatterns.co.uk/1-32-scale-resin-detail-correction-parts

The markings for the profile that Bo posted are in our decal set 32013

http://www.pheondecals.com/32013-sopwith-pups-rfc.html

With Brian's cowling you will still not be able to get the Mono to fit without modification to the rockers on the hidden bits of the engine. The benefit of this cowling is that, being cut-away at the bottom, it allows at least a part of the engine to be seen - you won't be able to make it turn, though (or fly it around the house making brrr noises...). The Mono was fitted to many Home defence Pups as it gave improved climb performance to intercept German raiders - though I'm not sure a Mono Pup ever shot any down.

In 1/48th scale, John Adams does a Monosoupape version of his excellent Aeroclub Pup kit.
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There is a crack, a crack in everything – that’s how the light gets in

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Re: Help, I'm having engine trouble!
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2015, 04:43:03 PM »
Well, if I can't make the brrrr noises, what good is it? ;D

Thanks for the info, Rowan :)