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Title: News from WNW
Post by: jknaus on June 03, 2015, 12:30:08 PM
The news from Wing Nut Wings is that the next model will be the iconic Sopwith Camel.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Sopwith_F-1_Camel_USAF.jpg)

(http://www.modelersalliance.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10118/SC1.jpg)

(http://www.modelersalliance.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10118/SC2.jpg)

James
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: zavod44 on June 03, 2015, 12:40:42 PM
WNW is so strange sometimes....why tell people about this and some stuff is so secret, cool news nonetheless......
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on June 03, 2015, 12:54:32 PM
Yes, it is no secret, we have known about this for at least two years, probably take another year before it is released.

Des.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: RAGIII on June 03, 2015, 12:59:38 PM
Yes, it is no secret, we have known about this for at least two years, probably take another year before it is released.

Des.

Agreed Des! On the other hand nice to see it confirmed at last on their site!
RAGIII
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Jamo on June 03, 2015, 01:06:00 PM
And more news in their email today:

An update on recent, and not so recent, developments at Wingnut Wings. 

-Work continues on our new model of the iconic Sopwith Camel and we believe that the end result will be well worth the wait. We do not have a release schedule for the Sopwith Camel at this time. 

-New decals ideal for full size replica aircraft or enhancing model display bases (http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/decals).

9110008    1/1 Full scale Clayton & Shuttleworth factory decal    US$16 (As seen on propellers and aircraft manufactured by Clayton & Shuttleworth)

9110009    1/1 Full scale Admiralty Design propeller decal     US$12 (As seen on one blade of many British propellers, often paired with a Clayton & Shuttleworth decal on the other blade)

-We also have a limited number of spare decal sheets from our earlier models available to order for just US$10

Felixstowe F.2a N4291 USNAS additional photo-etch Scarff ring bracket parts available.

If you have purchased 32050 Felixstowe F.2a (Early) and you intend to build option C2 (N4291 USNAS) then you will require a 2nd set of photo-etched Scarff ring brackets. Please email [email protected] and request “0132050P2 Scarff ring brackets” and provide your mailing address and we will send these to you free of charge (while stocks last).

Recently sold out models;

-32015 1/32 Albatros D.Va is now sold out (32047 1/32 Albatros D.Va (OAW) is still available - http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3111).
-32016 1/32 Sopwith Pup RNAS is now sold out (32013 1/32 Sopwith Pup RFC is still available - http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=28).

We currently have no plans to re-release models 32015 & 32016 but at some time in the future they will reappear as Special Edition releases with resin figures, additional decal schemes and 100s of photo-etch detail parts. We do not have a release schedule for these Special Editions at this time. 

In other news...

-New June 2015 PDF Catalogue is now available for download from our website (http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/pdfcatalogue).

-New basic & advanced modelling hints & tips have been added to our website (http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/hintsandtips).

-We have added British wicker seat warnings for our SE.5a, Sopwith Pup, Sopwith Triplane models and, for good measure, the Felixstowe F.2a in an attempt to counteract some recent overly zealous 'after-marketing'. These aircraft DID NOT have wicker seats
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Dave W on June 03, 2015, 01:06:14 PM
Actually Wingnuts have not stated that the next model will be the Sopwith Camel. In the email issued today Richard Alexander states: "Work continues on our new model of the iconic Sopwith Camel and we believe that the end result will be well worth the wait. We do not have a release schedule for the Sopwith Camel at this time. 

While we might love the Camel to be the next release let's not get ahead of ourselves as to when it will be here.

Also of interest, the WNW email has this to say about the new wicker seats on the market: "We have added British wicker seat warnings for our SE.5a, Sopwith Pup, Sopwith Triplane models and, for good measure, the Felixstowe F.2a in an attempt to counteract some recent overly zealous 'after-marketing'. These aircraft DID NOT have wicker seats."       

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on June 03, 2015, 05:15:49 PM
WNW has surprised us before with unexpected releases - I would definitely NOT be surprised if there are several new models released before we see their Camel...
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on June 03, 2015, 06:37:46 PM
I'm still holding my breath waiting for a Be.2, I'm sure that there is one coming soon.

Des.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Ssasho0 on June 03, 2015, 06:45:41 PM
Th eimportant thing for me is that the specialeditions are not cancelled....I still hope for a LVG and probably it will be between the first ones, as pictures of teh PE frets leaked years ago :)
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Nigel Jackson on June 03, 2015, 07:35:40 PM
I'm still holding my breath waiting for a Be.2, I'm sure that there is one coming soon.

Des.

Me too!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: macsporran on June 03, 2015, 08:02:02 PM
What a let-down though!
I'd been hoping June might have brought something new from them - a Dolphin maybe - but instead we've just got a holding statement about very little. OK so there's a Camel F.1 coming sometime in the future - but what is next up? - and when?

I'd still dispute the statement that SE5's never had wicker seats. I've held the wicker seat at East Fortune with a label saying it comes from an SE5a!
(I will go back down there sometime soonish to check this (and Noth's Albatros) out, but much of the Museum is closed at the moment for refurbishment. My sons were down there recently and I asked them to take some pics of the Alb panel but it is off display at present.)

Hopefully the WNW announcement is another of their smokescreens and something juicy is round the corner.
Sandy

Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: uncletony on June 03, 2015, 10:06:25 PM
I'm still holding my breath waiting for a Be.2, I'm sure that there is one coming soon.

Des.

Be careful! We don't want you to turn blue!
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: boggie on June 03, 2015, 10:22:30 PM
Bo makes a very good point!

But I know you know a WNW Be.2 is coming Des.

Otherwise you would have built one from scratch by now.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Dave in Dubai on June 03, 2015, 10:40:57 PM
I wonder whether Ronny Bar's aircraft profiles give us a few clues as to what we can expect?

He has done the artwork for the profiles in the instruction books and there are a few on his website, including a Be-2 , Halbestadts amongst others, which have not been released by Wingnuts as of yet.

Expect we must be due for a mid-year release by now?.......

I won't be holding my breath for the long fabled special editions though, as I nearly have every subject I ever imagined could be kitted for WW1 in 1/32.

These are great years for WW1 model builders.

Dave
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on June 03, 2015, 10:42:19 PM
i am not sure if i will even buy a wnw camel. maybe i would i would have to flip thru the instructions and check out the decals schemes and decide. a while back one of our forum members i cant remember who said they wouldnt get a dfw c.v cuz it looked just like a rumpler. i disagreed but when i look at a camel it looks alot like my wnw pup. more so than a rumpler and a dfw to me. guess it just that i am a diehard central powers fan.my opinion is the german and a/h stuff is just so much neater looking,so many intersting color schemes and patterned fabrics . granted there are a handful of french and a couple brit planes i really like but with the fact that they (mainly brit) are all the same color with slightly diff markings i cant see building multiples of same or similar types.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: uncletony on June 03, 2015, 10:51:59 PM
Well at least we can be pretty sure WNW won't mount the Vickers upside-down.

Maybe we can start speculating how many boxings of the Camel there will be. I'm not expert enough to know what the demarcations might be, except Comic and I suppose the various powerplants?
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on June 03, 2015, 11:01:43 PM
i am not sure if i will even buy a wnw camel. maybe i would i would have to flip thru the instructions and check out the decals schemes and decide. a while back one of our forum members i cant remember who said they wouldnt get a dfw c.v cuz it looked just like a rumpler. i disagreed but when i look at a camel it looks alot like my wnw pup. more so than a rumpler and a dfw to me. guess it just that i am a diehard central powers fan.my opinion is the german and a/h stuff is just so much neater looking,so many intersting color schemes and patterned fabrics . granted there are a handful of french and a couple brit planes i really like but with the fact that they (mainly brit) are all the same color with slightly diff markings i cant see building multiples of same or similar types.

I think you make a fair point.  Some folks will buy every WNW kit come what may - others pick and choose.  Unless there is a specific reason such as completing a collection, favourite type etc I will get a model of something that catches my eye.  Many of the WNW releases over the last 2 years or so haven't interested me, despite the obvious quality.

Would I buy a Camel?  Maybe, as it is an iconic type - as is the Dr1..
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on June 03, 2015, 11:31:07 PM
i would also buy a dr.1 although i personally have gone on record as saying i think the roden kit is sufficient . would the wnw be better yeah, and due to the fact that there are like a hundred diff schemes sure why not. but i didnt buy a wnw se5a for the longest cuz i had already gotten the encore kit and didnt see the need in having 2 1/32 se5a kits, cuz they all basically look the same.i came across a guy locally last year who flipped me a wnw se5a for $40 so i said why not.as far as the former i have 4 1/32 dr.1 kits unbuilt and 1 built. and yes i would buy a wnw one although i wish they would do many of the craft that have no kit in 1/32 before they start doing things like that. ok the hobbycraft old tool and academy need some real work and replacement guns. the later hobbycrafts not as much but are fairly accurate in profile and i have seen some really nicely done ones. so to me why even do a camel anytime in the near future? we need so many neat craft kitted why rehash something else. i know some guys want the latest and greatest and i understand it would be nicer. but i truly dont mind doing some actual old school sand test fit sand test fit. to me its more fun to have to find creative solutions to problems, i enjoy scratch building parts that are missing or not quite right in an older kit . its just what each person likes and everyone has a right to that. some guys like to concentrate on the painting and do a quick easy build its all about whats fun for each individual.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: RAGIII on June 04, 2015, 12:18:30 AM
Well at least we can be pretty sure WNW won't mount the Vickers upside-down.

Maybe we can start speculating how many boxings of the Camel there will be. I'm not expert enough to know what the demarcations might be, except Comic and I suppose the various powerplants?

I will bite on this one! My speculation is we will see:
1.RFC boxing
2. RNAS boxing
3. A 2F1 boxing
4. Duelist( Perhaps with one of the OOP German fighters, or my wish, a DR1  8)
5. Longshot for a Comic boxing
RAGIII
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: boggie on June 04, 2015, 12:46:42 AM
Your speculation sounds pretty much spot on to me RAGs.
I seem to recall Airfix did a duellists Camel and DRI.
I think the Camel was the first WWI model I built.
No doubt it wasn't too classy as I was about 8yrs old, but I recall it, along with the albatros
and others, hanging proudly from my bedroom ceiling.   
Ah! Nostalgia.  :)
Probably why I would buy all Camel versions WNW produce.  ;D
Of course that doesn't say much for my maturity, but it does make me a good customer Hahaha.
 
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: coyotemagic on June 04, 2015, 02:26:03 AM
WNW always has a June/July release, so I'm sure we'll have a surprise in store soon.  I recently read a list of Pup kills and a large percentage of those were Halberstadt D.II's.  I wouldn't be surprised if our friends in Wellington were to sneak one of those in on us.  I'm betting on this December as the Camel release date.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: News from WNW
Post by: James on June 04, 2015, 02:34:54 AM
A camel would be cool, but I'm holding out for a surprise, a Friedrichshafen G.III
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Michael Scarborough on June 04, 2015, 02:46:47 AM
Will someone please explain what a COMIC is? At least in terms of Sopwith A.C.

(Yes, the potential for humor is great.) (But I will resist.)

Cheers from NYC,
Michael
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: coyotemagic on June 04, 2015, 02:59:40 AM
All jokes aside, Michael, this might give you some idea.
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=2680.msg44321#msg44321
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Pgtaylorart on June 04, 2015, 03:00:47 AM
This is what is referred to as a Sopwith Comic;

(http://imageshack.com/a/img661/9823/TUV46K.jpg)
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: eindecker on June 04, 2015, 03:02:48 AM
Certainly some interesting replies to Wingnut Wings's Camel announcement. Having failed years ago to adequately assemble and paint an Eduard Camel F.1 (although I do have another of those in the box, just in case I want to try again), I am looking forward to a Wingnut Wings version. I believe everything is going to fit, be more than reasonably accurate, well engineered for assembly and be supported by a plethora of source images. I expect an enjoyable and historically relevant modeling experience that will result in an important addition to my little collection.

Yes, it's "iconic", been done before, yet another Camel and put down as ordinary and passé by many people. Some modelers already have Camels done by other makers, as I do, yet none promise to be the drop-dead amazingly well done effort that I expect from Wingnut Wings. I will keep my Eduard Camel since we still have a grudge match to fight in the distant future, but if I had Encores, and other large scale Camel kits, I'd dump them as fast as possible and buy some Wingnut Wings Camel kits. Just as I would any Dr.1 or F.1 Wingnut Wings kits.

I suppose some modelers prefer to attempt the "silk purse from the sow's ear" projects, but I'm not one of them. I like to add bits and bobs, lines, hoses, and a few other do-dads to spruce up an engine or cockpit now and then, but really, I am not interested in scratch building entire assemblies or correcting design, accuracy or production mistakes just to get a reasonable kit. Each to his own, however.

I hope that we see another kit or two before Wingnut Wings releases the Camel. So, to that end, I cast my votes for the Dr.1/F.1 and  1903 Wright Flyer.

Might as well dream big.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: dr 1 ace on June 04, 2015, 03:18:03 AM
All jokes aside, Michael, this might give you some idea.
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=2680.msg44321#msg44321
Cheers,
Bud

Wonderful work on that Comic Bud, don't know how I missed it !!

Ed
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: lcarroll on June 04, 2015, 05:44:13 AM
Well at least we can be pretty sure WNW won't mount the Vickers upside-down.

Maybe we can start speculating how many boxings of the Camel there will be. I'm not expert enough to know what the demarcations might be, except Comic and I suppose the various powerplants?

I will bite on this one! My speculation is we will see:
1.RFC boxing
2. RNAS boxing
3. A 2F1 boxing
4. Duelist( Perhaps with one of the OOP German fighters, or my wish, a DR1  8)
5. Longshot for a Comic boxing
RAGIII

   Matches my thoughts and desires on the topic exactly. I'd buy 4 out of 5 and perhaps a "Duelist" set as well if the German Type really appealed. (A new DR.1 or and OAW D.VII for eg.)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: KiwiZac on June 04, 2015, 08:08:50 AM
I'm not a Camel fan - even after seeing Sir Peter's Gnome-powered replica fly a dozen or so times since 2004, I can't explain it but I prefer the Pup - but it's great to see this is coming. I may even get one! There's ample options for decals and boxings in my view. If they do end up doing a Dr.I then you can guarantee a Brown v MvR Duellists kit would be a major best-seller.

I also hope to see a BE2 series - TVAL has to be sharing information on their real F and numerous reproductions with WNW for this to happen! If we're taking wishlist orders then I'd like a C and F.

I like that some of the decal sheets from their kits are now being offered separately, and at reasonable prices. Imagine if they did an Eduard Overtrees type deal, offering certain kits for sale as sprues-only without decals or instructions...

I must say I like the new catalogue, with photos of built-up kits included. A great motivator for prospective buyers like myself. How long have the late Ninak and Brisfit been in "development"? I'm not likely to buy either but I'm curious.

As for what I'd like to see next? (If I'm out of line for posting this please let me know.)
BE2 and BE12 series (TVAL have/have built half-a-dozen or so)
Airco DH.4 (TVAL have a Liberty-engined flying repro and a static original Boeing mailplane)
Avro 504K (TVAL have flying original and repro)
Curtiss JN-4
Standard J-1
Fokker E.V/D.VIII (TVAL have two flying repros)
Sopwith Tabloid/Schneider/Baby series
Vickers Vimy
Vickers Gunbus

And regarding the Wicker Seat Debate, the TVAL-built SE.5a I crawled over in 2007 didn't seem to have a wicker one:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/TVAL%20shows/DSC06887.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/TVAL%20shows/DSC06887.jpg.html)
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: RAGIII on June 04, 2015, 08:15:08 AM
Here are some thoughts on Markings options for the RFC Camel:
1.Woolets 43 sq. Camel with the White? blotches on the upper wings.
2. Cobbys' Camel
3. McClarens Camel
4. A night fighter,(but not a comic), from the 1st pursuit  groups 185th Aero Sq., AEF.
 ;D

RAGIII
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Doug Mace on June 04, 2015, 09:15:07 AM
Or another interesting Camel would be one of the Camel pilot writers, Victor Yeates. They got Arthur G. Lee's Pup, so why not?           -M
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Thumbs up on June 04, 2015, 09:29:35 AM
Or another interesting Camel would be one of the Camel pilot writers, Victor Yeates. They got Arthur G. Lee's Pup, so why not?           -M

Yeate's Winged victory,wonderful book! It was passed round the pilots of fighter command, commanding £5 a copy,as the only book on fighting worth reading.Cundalls camel would be worth modelling,and what about Cecil Lewis's Morane Parasol from Capricorn rising?
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: coyotemagic on June 04, 2015, 09:35:30 AM
Breadner's and Barker's kites seem to be crowd pleasers, as well.
Zac, your wish list is almost identical to mine.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: rhwinter on June 04, 2015, 04:45:42 PM
My personal Camel-wish-list contains some colourful trainers, twin-seaters and also a version in USAS markings - apart from the Comic, actually!
Teasers for the twin-seater:
http://www.crossandcockade.com/Blog.asp?Display=118#sthash.SZgQq0m6.dpbs
http://www.adf-gallery.com.au/gallery/Sopwith-Camel/P921741
Or Google "colourful Camels"...
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: KiwiZac on June 05, 2015, 07:15:12 AM
Zac, your wish list is almost identical to mine.
Cheers,
Bud
Great minds think alike...and so do we  ;)

I imagine the Jenny, Standard and DH.4 would do great business with US modellers.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: eclarson on June 05, 2015, 10:10:03 AM
Bah...who needs WNW.  The definitive Camel has been available for several years now.   :) 

(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg61/elarson1123/LEGO%20Camel/P6170019.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/elarson1123/media/LEGO%20Camel/P6170019.jpg.html)

Cheers,
Eric
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Doug Mace on June 05, 2015, 10:48:07 AM
Now, how ya gonna do a better pre-shading than that?
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: KiwiZac on June 05, 2015, 12:09:43 PM
I saw that on the shelves a year or two back, it's criminal they let it onto the market with the lack of lower wing dihedral, not to mention the shape of the wingtips. Looks more like a bad imitation of a Pup. Disgraceful.  :P
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Michael Scarborough on June 05, 2015, 12:16:00 PM
I would like to thank Bud and George for pointing out the difference between a comic and a comedian.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Pgtaylorart on June 05, 2015, 01:15:27 PM
I would like to thank Bud and George for pointing out the difference between a comic and a comedian.

Always here to help, Michael ;D
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: fredjocko on June 19, 2015, 10:52:16 PM
My personal Camel-wish-list contains some colourful trainers, twin-seaters and also a version in USAS markings - apart from the Comic, actually!
Teasers for the twin-seater:
http://www.crossandcockade.com/Blog.asp?Display=118#sthash.SZgQq0m6.dpbs
http://www.adf-gallery.com.au/gallery/Sopwith-Camel/P921741
Or Google "colourful Camels"...

I would love to see a Camel with markings from the USS Texas. I have Revell's 1/28 scale kit and I hope to work on that once I finish the other WWI subjects that I keep getting distracted from.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Michael Scarborough on June 20, 2015, 12:09:34 PM
Agreed...USS TEXAS. That is the diorama my Pup build was a warm up for.

MS
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: fredjocko on June 20, 2015, 01:04:06 PM
Agreed...USS TEXAS. That is the diorama my Pup build was a warm up for.

MS

Really? Is it in this forum. I'll like to see it. Every time I visit the U.S. Naval Aviation Museum I stare at their Camel in Texas' markings. I don't know why it looks so interesting.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: dr 1 ace on June 21, 2015, 08:49:43 AM
Agreed...USS TEXAS. That is the diorama my Pup build was a warm up for.

MS

Really? Is it in this forum. I'll like to see it. Every time I visit the U.S. Naval Aviation Museum I stare at their Camel in Texas' markings. I don't know why it looks so interesting.

I think it is Snoopy in the cockpit-- seriously, neat color- light grey w/ red-white-blue National Stars, large lettering, some exposed plywood, shinny cowl and all the stuff on the "deck" ...


ED
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: janh on August 26, 2015, 02:11:17 AM
Francisco Guedes has an exploded view from WNW that's viewable on the LSM forum
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: RAGIII on August 26, 2015, 09:45:42 PM
Francisco Guedes has an exploded view from WNW that's viewable on the LSM forum

I am attaching the link(I hope) to the exploded parts page)

http://forum.largescalemodeller.com/topic/3998-sopwith-camel-parts-illustration-exclusive-lsmwnw-fans/

RAGIII

PS: It seems that doing the upper wing in 3 sections will give options for multi versions with different center panels and different outer panels for ships camels etc.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on August 26, 2015, 09:52:04 PM
I'm afraid that I am not one bit interested in the Winguts Camel, I'm very happy with the one I built years ago.

Des.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: dr 1 ace on August 27, 2015, 10:02:19 AM
One piece lower wing will ensure proper dihedral, so you Camel fans will be happy.


Ed
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Eric Armstrong on August 27, 2015, 11:40:17 AM
I'm afraid that I am not one bit interested in the Winguts Camel, I'm very happy with the one I built years ago.

Des.
Oh come on now.  Surely you are just one little teensie bit interested. ;)
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Nigel Jackson on August 27, 2015, 08:07:06 PM
Hello All

WNW have, in the past, often caught us by pleasant surprise with their releases. So, how about whilst our attention is focused on the Camel, they sneak out a BE2, as well. The Camel would be the money spinner and maybe could support the BE2. With a BE2 that would surely leave Des, me and some others, happy bunnies?

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: macsporran on August 27, 2015, 08:16:56 PM
It's got to be a Dolphin. Just finished rereading Winged Victory and it's full of references to SEs and Dolphins taking care of the Huns at higher altitudes while the Camels are stuck with ground attack. Has to be one of the most underrated but vitally important aircraft. Fabulously quirky, but deadly, looking too.
My tuppence.
S
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Dave Brewer on August 27, 2015, 11:00:14 PM
Hope you're right,I'd love a Dolphin too.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: dr 1 ace on August 28, 2015, 12:11:58 AM
Hope you're right,I'd love a Dolphin too.

Make that a 3rd and Amigo Bud will certainly chime in too !

Ed
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: RAGIII on August 28, 2015, 02:19:04 AM
Hope you're right,I'd love a Dolphin too.

Make that a 3rd and Amigo Bud will certainly chime in too !

Ed

Your other Amigo is all in for a Dolphin!
RAGIII
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: coyotemagic on August 28, 2015, 03:18:44 AM
Hope you're right,I'd love a Dolphin too.

Make that a 3rd and Amigo Bud will certainly chime in too !

Ed

Your other Amigo is all in for a Dolphin!
RAGIII
You're absolutely right, Amigos!  Gotta have a Dolphin.  A real Hun getter.  The Germans seemed to be truly frightened by it, by all accounts.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: lcarroll on August 28, 2015, 10:09:59 AM
    As much as I'd be "all over" a Dolphin I think Nigel's on the right track; I'd bet on a Be2 "surprise" just prior to the advertised Camel......
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on August 28, 2015, 11:25:52 AM
Regardless of the currency exchange rates I would certainly be buying the Be.2, I am waiting very patiently  ;) ;)

Des.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: FarEast on August 28, 2015, 11:52:29 AM
Likewise I will not bother letting the exchange rate effect my purchase of the Wingnut Wings W.4
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Dave in Dubai on August 28, 2015, 08:12:37 PM
No more Camels for me either, plenty here in land of sand already.

Don't want to even consider the exchange rate just now :(
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: bobs_buckles on August 29, 2015, 12:12:16 AM
Coming this fall....April Fool!

 ;D ;D

(http://bobsbuckles.co.uk/WW1forum/bobwith.jpg)
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Doug Mace on August 29, 2015, 12:18:00 AM
Pretty nutty, alright, Bob...but I bet you did that on porpoise.                      -M
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: bobs_buckles on August 29, 2015, 12:37:01 AM
Pretty nutty, alright, Bob...but I bet you did that on porpoise.                      -M

 ;D ;D
Title: News from WNW
Post by: James on August 29, 2015, 08:29:56 AM
Really good interview.

http://forum.largescalemodeller.com/topic/4007-interview-with-richard-alexander-wnw-coordinator-everything-you-want-to-know-about-wnw/
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: PrzemoL on August 29, 2015, 08:45:13 AM
Very fine reading, though, typically for WNW, full of question marks. One thing hits me, though, as the real news - the announced end of free shipping worldwide... Or is it just a hidden encouragement to order some more before the end of the year? Only time will tell... But it might just have made me buy that SE5a special deal...
Title: News from WNW
Post by: James on August 29, 2015, 08:50:41 AM
Yeah, the Free Shipping ending, I bet they will have a lot of orders. I'll have to convince the wife I NEED to get the A.E.G. now.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: uncletony on August 29, 2015, 08:56:48 AM
Agree that the end of free shipping is the only real news.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: RAGIII on August 29, 2015, 09:27:40 AM
The free shipping has been a real deal for all. I can only take a WAG at the cost to ship a relatively heavy kit like the Gotha , AEG, or even a kit like the DVIIF  from New Zealand to the US but would guess at best it will add $20.00 to the cost, maybe more? I will have to scrape up some dough and make an order soon  :-\
RAGIII
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Derrick on August 29, 2015, 09:28:17 AM
With the end of free shipping and the low value of the Canadian Peso, going to mean some hard decisions  :'(
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: FarEast on August 29, 2015, 09:52:06 AM
Same here in Japan - although we all know that when the crunch hits we will find some way to justify our purchases :D
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on August 29, 2015, 10:23:05 AM
Agree that the end of free shipping is the only real news.

I agree with Bo, the end of free shipping is the only news, but an interview with Richard way back when they first started he did say that the free shipping was not a permanent fixture and would end in time. Like others have said, it could be just a ploy to get modelers to buy kits as their sales would be suffering because of the global currency exchange. This news will not get me racing out and buying kits from them.

Des.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Beto on August 29, 2015, 11:14:28 AM
For me the best sentence of the whole interview is this one:

"The first interview that I saw online was on Hyperscale back in 2010 and Peter Jackson ends saying that “there’s lots more to come”
Now in 2015, that sentence still applies to nowadays?
 ------
Absolutely, there is lots more to come. So long as there is continued support and we are able to recoup enough from sales to cover our costs, Wingnut Wings will continue to release exciting new models."

So if you keep your faith, rewards will come  ;)
Title: News from WNW
Post by: James on August 29, 2015, 11:22:42 AM
For me the best sentence of the whole interview is this one:

"The first interview that I saw online was on Hyperscale back in 2010 and Peter Jackson ends saying that “there’s lots more to come”
Now in 2015, that sentence still applies to nowadays?
 ------
Absolutely, there is lots more to come. So long as there is continued support and we are able to recoup enough from sales to cover our costs, Wingnut Wings will continue to release exciting new models."

So if you keep your faith, rewards will come  ;)

That gives hope still for a Friedrichshafen G.III
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on August 29, 2015, 11:35:20 AM
I still remember in one of the very first interviews we were told that Wingnuts had 50 kits in various stages of development, many have been released since then but it still leaves quite a few to be released, good times ahead (bring on the Be.2)

Des.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Dave W on August 29, 2015, 06:14:39 PM
As the person who wrote the 2010 Wingnuts feature, I can say Wingnuts has been predicting the end of free shipping since way back then. I told them then that axing free shipping would have a serious impact on potential sales. Now, with global exchange rates killing the market, I think WnW would be very foolish to impose postage costs which would be like everything else they sell and be priced in U.S. Dollars.
They are in a way stuck with the free post deal. Add another $US 30 or so to each purchase, plus the exchange rates and Parcel Force fees etc etc and watch customers walk away.
Diehard WW1 fans might buy at any price but a big slice of the more general WW1 market would be dissuaded by higher costs,

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: bobs_buckles on August 29, 2015, 07:40:39 PM
I've got plenty of 'Nuts' waiting to be tickled  :P By the time I get round to building them all free postage will be the last thing on my mind!

The loss of free postage will have an impact on WNW and this could also have a knock-on effect for future development due to lower sales returns. Die hard fans will always stump up the costs, but the casual 'dipping their toe' into the field of WW1 aviation may have second thoughts about shelling out those sorts of funds. Time will tell.

I hope WNW can remain at the top of the pyramid for many years to come, but I also hope that other players come to the market.

VB  :)
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: mike in calif on August 30, 2015, 01:20:51 AM
This tells me I might want to make some decisions regarding which kits I want by Dec.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: fredjocko on August 30, 2015, 01:36:57 AM
With the possibility of free shipping ending I wonder if the kit price will drop. I highly doubt that the shipping is truly free and that there isn't some price mark-up to accommodate the cost.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Eric Armstrong on August 30, 2015, 02:33:24 AM
We are in the realms of pure speculation now, but if they do decide to end free global shipping, perhaps they will offer free shipping for purchases over a certain amount, say $200.00.  The wisdom of such an approach is that it allows them to recoup some of their shipping expenses while at the same time encouraging larger orders. 

Hopefully, there will be no end free shipping.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: macsporran on August 30, 2015, 03:28:05 AM
FWIW I think they'd be crazy to change their winning formula at this stage.
They have created a new market for modellers who maybe never thought of building WWI aircraft and have brought many, I'm sure, like me, back to a hobby I had forsaken years ago. I think the kits are a tad expensive but generally worth the price, with the exception - for me - of the AEG. The last price raise made me buy a bundle of kits before the deadline, but I now have more than I'll probably ever build. I can buy excellent Roden 1/32 kits for about 25GBP via Poland and I cannot see why people are clamouring for a WNW Dr 1 when the Roden kit is so good already at half the price.
At $69 and $99 I'll probably buy any scouts or two seaters they release in future. If there were a hefty price hike I would only pick and choose something really special.
My tuppence again.
S
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: lcarroll on August 30, 2015, 05:43:04 AM
   "FWIW I think they'd be crazy to change their winning formula at this stage."

   +1, the global exchange rates have got to be hurting their sales already; adding another $20 US (or more) to every transaction would really have people backing away. It would be a terribly timed effort on their part.......
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: FarEast on August 30, 2015, 07:18:47 AM
The thing is with global exchange rates though is that its swings and roundabouts - one minutes its against they buyer and the market wains, the next its against the seller and the buyers have a glut of purchases.

Exactly the same happens with the cycling industry.

However what we do know is that WnW is not really about the profit but sustainability of the business and it exists for Sir Peter Jackson's personal pleasure. So as long as the company can be somewhat self sustaining, and I don't think it  ever really can be as they really don't sell enough kits to cover the unique molds and castings then I think they will be around for a while longer yet.

Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: dr 1 ace on August 30, 2015, 07:54:17 AM
Reality Check :  Compare these 4 Tamiya 1/32  kits: Mosquito US $ 280 retail ($224 discounted), P-51 $185 to 216 retail ($146-170 discounted), Spitfire $ 172 to 189 ($137-151  discounted), F4U Corsair $199-213 retail ($160-190 discounted) PLUS shipping of anywhere from $11 to $23 depending on from whom and to whom ( sure there is an occasional great deal, but are not to be counted on).

Do you really think there are that many more Mossie buyers out there versus WNW builders? WNW big bombers are priced right -including the free postage- and IMHO the single & 2 seaters are truly underpriced at current levels. I remember in 1967 that same caterwauling and predictions of doom when Monogram 1/48 kits went to the "unheard" of price of $1.49 for the P-47 that was the first totally detailed kit inside and out and no "toy" (dropping torpedoes, folding wings/landing gear) features.

As noted in a previous post, the "free" postage is currently hidden in the price  so separate out the postage and I doubt the price will not go up more than $15 total, also to be noted is that the kits keep getting better and there is no free lunch. If WNW kits went thru the same distribution process as the other kits, the price would be truly astronomical. WNW has established a standard for quality/value that will keep people coming back. True, price is always a consideration, for some it will mean more time between purchases, but we all find a way to get what we want.

Thank you know who that WNW is owned by Sir PJ  and we are the benefactor of his "hobby", say a prayer that he sticks around for a long, long time and not worry about a few bucks price increase. Boll's Law # 1- "Money is only as good as the things it will buy, if it can't get you what you want it is no %$#%^() good". Followed by Boll's Law #2- "Nobody has figured out a way to take it with them--even the Pharaohs tried, but everything they had is in somebody else's museum".
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: coyotemagic on August 30, 2015, 12:39:41 PM
Well stated, Ed!  Bravo!  I couldn't agree more.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: uncletony on August 30, 2015, 12:42:05 PM
Well stated, Ed!  Bravo!  I couldn't agree more.
Cheers,
Bud

+2, my sentiments exactly, Ed
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: RAGIII on August 30, 2015, 02:02:22 PM
Well stated, Ed!  Bravo!  I couldn't agree more.
Cheers,
Bud

+2, my sentiments exactly, Ed

Ed, Bud, and Bo,
You gave me something to think about and my conclusion is that Ed is quite right. Seeing as I can only buy 1 or 2 a year this won't make a big difference and relative to other Tamigawa like kits WNW will still be a bargain.
RAGIII
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Jim on August 30, 2015, 06:19:03 PM
Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but if shipping is separated from price, those living in eNZed and Oz might see an overall price drop that takes some of the sting out of the currency exchange...at least, I sure hope so!
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: radio on August 30, 2015, 11:38:00 PM
To all WNW are very great kits and not heavy in price.
Only for me is it the wrong scale.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: lcarroll on August 30, 2015, 11:43:04 PM
Ed,
    I gotta say you've put this issue into very clear perspective; good points all and no disagreement from this "cowboy"!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: ondra on August 31, 2015, 05:06:30 PM
I agree with the previous posts as to the fact that WNW kits are still a bargain compared to other kits in 1/32 scale.

Talking about the free shipping, from my point of view this step actually makes sense in terms of the KPI called value per order. If an e-commerce retail company switches from free shipping to postage fees, this will probably have a positive effect on number of kits per order. If the customer sees he would have to pay e. g. 20 dollars for postage, this incentivises him to order less frequently, but put e. g. 2 or 3 kits into the basket. In this respect I can understand what WNW are going to do and it makes sense in terms of financial result without having severe impact on customers.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: macsporran on September 01, 2015, 02:04:07 AM
“Do you really think there are that many more Mossie buyers out there versus WNW builders?”

Yes. I really do think there are that many more Mosquito buyers out there. Does this really need to be said?
A glance at the tables at any model show or club meeting will show lots of high-value WW2 kits. Even with WNW, we WWI modellers are still a comparatively rare breed.

(Hell, I might well pay $300 and much more for a good Mossie - as my dad was in a Mosquito Squadron in WW2 – but I won’t buy the AEG because the subject is just not worth it to me at that price point. If it were sub-$200 and contained “standard” night lozenge then I’d get one for the stash.)

Five years in there’s maybe a perceptible shift at WNW towards more financial accountability that patently wasn’t there when they released the Tin Donkey. We’ve seen the first Special Offers. (The double Fee offer must have gone down like a lead balloon to be so quickly revised.)
Conclusion, they have some kits that are not selling well enough at $99.
They are trying to shift stock on the SE5a - presumably they made too many initially - but this shows there is at least one kit of a very popular WWI subject - I bought three - that isn’t selling well enough at $69.
Also, they initially said they wouldn’t make a Camel, now they have bowed to financial common sense and hyped up a forthcoming release.

I respect the postings and views of everybody else on this subject and understand and empathise completely with the viewpoint that you have to pay more for something good and we need to support the good guys who are producing such fantastic kits.

My worry though is that we appear to be sending a message to WNW, (if they read Des’s wonderful forum,) that we will pay any price they decide to charge in future. Some of us might but then some (a lot?) of us might not.

I’d hate them to vamp up the price or the shipping and see a sizeable section of their hard-won clientele melt away like snow off a dyke (as we say up here in Bonnie Scotland - where we know the worth of a bawbee!)
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Dave W on September 01, 2015, 07:06:13 AM
Well said Macsporran and I agree with everything you say. As someone who has bought the Tamiya 1/32 Mosquito ($A249 in Australia) , but has also been a solid supporter of Wingnuts since their launch, I put myself in that section of the market defined as modellers who love WW1 subjects but who do other subjects too.

Wingnuts has to compete with increasingly state-of-the-art large scale offerings such as the Mosquito and the HK Models Mossie, their B17, forthcoming Lancaster, sundry Tamiya Spitfires and Corsairs etc. The novelty has worn off the Wingnuts brand and they have to compete for sales in a tough market. Diehard WnW fans and WW1-only modellers do not constitute that big enough a world market, I would guess. It's the big mass of more mainstream modellers branching out into WW1 that has helped drive WNW sales. But don't forget, the WnW success story is at the cost of Roden's WW1 production policy as they are retreating from WW1, sadly.

I will still buy Wingnut kits- if they are a subject I want to have in 1/32 scale and they are within my wider hobby budget. I also do 1/48th scale and am excited by the Copper State Models projects coming along, the Eduard SE5a, the various new Airfix kits and especially the 1/48th Defiant. This is a golden era for modelling, no question, and Wingnuts play a key role - but they are not the only model company out there and they have to compete for my dollar with other model companies.

The potential imposition of shipping charges is economically understandable but they need to be very careful they don't turn the customers away with sudden price rises. It can cost $50 or so to post a 1/32 kit from Australia to America, so unless WNW has a special deal with NZ Post, what would they charge ( in US Dollars) to post to the world?

Would they charge a subsidised postage fee?, or maybe gradually introduce postage costs? or just a flat rate or the actual cost? Depending on how they play this one it could be a deal breaker to international sales- not the postage per se but the economic impact on customers caused by other factors too such as exchange rates, customs and VAT fees and so on.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: uncletony on September 01, 2015, 07:35:13 AM
Well of course they could move to a different distribution model -- instead of shipping everything onesy-twosy from NZ. The latest note from RA hints that they might be moving in that direction...

And while the "novelty" of WNW may have worn off, it seems to me they have done a pretty good job of maintaining the interest and excitement. For example the WNW Fans FB page has over 3000 members last I looked, with so many new posts every day that I for one cannot keep up with it.

IMO they have managed to build a brand like Apple. Everyone here knows a WNW release is a special event, driving the crowd to a frenzy in anticipation both of the announcement and actually receiving the kits. Like the latest iPhone, these products are aspirational in nature, and thus relatively insensitive to pricing.

Heck, just read the new member comments here -- it seems like 75% percent start with something like "...and then I got a WNW kit and I was hooked... will never go back... etc."





Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Pgtaylorart on September 01, 2015, 08:55:56 AM

Heck, just read the new member comments here -- it seems like 75% percent start with something like "...and then I got a WNW kit and I was hooked... will never go back... etc."

Yes, this is my story. I was modeling trains until a few years ago when a buddy showed me this new WNW kit he just bought. I'd never heard of them. That was a few years ago and I haven't built a train since. In fact, that buddy regrets showing me the WNW kit, haha. ;D

Now I need to get back to work on my iWings.  ;)

George
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: stefanbuss on September 01, 2015, 08:33:00 PM
Quote
That gives hope still for a Friedrichshafen G.III

James, a partial answer for your wish might be derived from R.A.'s answer here:
Quote
It will not be possible to create any new twin engined aircraft models to the same sort of cost as the Gotha G.IV released in 2010. Overall production costs have gone up, models are more detailed & complex (as anyone who has built both the Gotha G.IV and AEG G.IV models can testify) and it is no longer 2010.
Which might mean "no further twin engine aircraft at all", or possibly "much more expensive twin engine aircraft".

S.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Captain Slower on September 02, 2015, 06:40:18 AM
On the SE5a, I am surprised that they did not follow the Hisso quickly with a Viper version given the subjects available in that configuration.

On twin engines, I read that to mean that any future twins would in the pricier bracket.   
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: RAGIII on September 02, 2015, 10:29:57 AM
On the SE5a, I am surprised that they did not follow the Hisso quickly with a Viper version given the subjects available in that configuration.

On twin engines, I read that to mean that any future twins would in the pricier bracket.

Agreed!
RAGIII
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: rhwinter on September 02, 2015, 03:05:17 PM
On the SE5a, I am surprised that they did not follow the Hisso quickly with a Viper version given the subjects available in that configuration.

I hope(-d) for a Viper-powered SE5a too.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on September 08, 2015, 08:45:19 AM
On the SE5a, I am surprised that they did not follow the Hisso quickly with a Viper version given the subjects available in that configuration.

On twin engines, I read that to mean that any future twins would in the pricier bracket.

I agree as well and ask the question, why not a Viper powered Se.5.

Even though the large twin engined models are very impressive the price of these kits will undoubtedly rise and this is fully understandable. It just depends on Wingnuts, if they want to turn-over a lot of kits a single seater is the way to go, if they want to turn-over a heap of kits then release a Camel and a Dr.1, but large bombers will be very slow movers (excuse the pun) and may sit on their shelves for a long time.

Des.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Edo on September 08, 2015, 07:28:10 PM
Well, I think that we will be surprided very soon!
How do I guess? ::)
Because a new flag is just something to cheer about!  ;) with a new kit as well!

(http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af290/Edo0606/Cattura_zps7pmf2owi.jpg)

Don't you agree?

ciao
edo

p.s. I personally like the second from left best...
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Jim on September 08, 2015, 08:01:15 PM
This is the flag I would have voted for...

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Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on September 08, 2015, 08:18:37 PM
Not that I would have a vote but I prefer No.2 but leaning ever so slightly towards No.4

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g5jr3aM02KY/Ve61krPRpOI/AAAAAAAAS9A/9XIJlbjgMTk/s769-Ic42/NZ%252520Flag.jpg)
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Tony Haycock on September 08, 2015, 08:59:46 PM
I'm going for no. 2. but I won't bore you all with me reasons why i support the flag change, and I think I may be in the minority in our little part of the world...
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Ernie on September 09, 2015, 12:20:27 AM
If I were a New Zealander, I would lean toward no.2.
Good wishes to you Kiwi's on the historic decision. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: lcarroll on September 09, 2015, 12:57:15 AM
   This year marks the 50th Anniversary of the official proclamation of our national Canadian Flag, an event which was long overdue IMHO and it's great to see a New Zealand national flag being established. Like the Canadian experience it will not happen without a lot of emotion and anguish, we still refer to the "great flag debate" and partisan political sniping still refers! As a bystander I like option #2 as well, good luck with the issue, you have a beautiful country and rich heritage that deserves it's own unique and hard earned symbol of nationhood. Just label me as meddling if you so wish..........!! ;)
Cheers,
Lance (a proud Canadian!)
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Chris Johnson on September 09, 2015, 01:31:59 AM
Now this is interesting. I'm going to have to do a bit of research to find out what the different flags represent. As Lance said, as an outsider looking in and just seeing the graphic design, I lean towards #2 as well. After I educate myself a bit, that might change.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: KiwiZac on September 09, 2015, 07:33:11 AM
Number 2's my favourite, but I was most upset to hear that Lazer [sic] Kiwi wasn't a finalist! The debate is VERY heated here in NZ, with the Returned Services Association running a major campaign to keep it as is.

Anyway. Wingnut Wings!
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: mike in calif on September 09, 2015, 12:34:59 PM
#4, but with a slight lean to the left at #2.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: stefanbuss on September 09, 2015, 02:27:57 PM
I would like to get back to the flag of Imperial Germany...

 8)

Stefan, who feels a bit distracted
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: kornbeef on September 09, 2015, 03:12:53 PM
Hmmmm this thread seems to have gone off on a tangent. I thought it was for WNW news related stuff not"Flagspotters'R'Us"  ;D

The elusive Kornbeef.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: stefanbuss on September 09, 2015, 03:37:59 PM
Indeed. But maybe the news are there aren't any?

Stefan, on topic again  8)
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on September 09, 2015, 06:37:11 PM
You are exactly right Stefan, there is no news from Wingnuts, yet, but time will be coming soon when Christmas surprise releases makes headline news, I'm still tipping a Be.2  :) :)

Des.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Ernie on September 09, 2015, 07:32:12 PM
You are exactly right Stefan, there is no news from Wingnuts, yet, but time will be coming soon when Christmas surprise releases makes headline news, I'm still tipping a Be.2  :) :)

Des.

I hope you're right, Des.  The long awaited Camel is accounted for so I think the
"Christmas surprise" may be just that...only God and Sir Peter know and neither
one is talking. ;) ;D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: dr 1 ace on September 10, 2015, 07:57:33 AM
You are exactly right Stefan, there is no news from Wingnuts, yet, but time will be coming soon when Christmas surprise releases makes headline news, I'm still tipping a Be.2  :) :)

Des.

I hope you're right, Des.  The long awaited Camel is accounted for so I think the
"Christmas surprise" may be just that...only God and Sir Peter know and neither
one is talking. ;) ;D






Well, there is a Be.2 (f) in New Zealand,  since they were used throughout the whole war ( I may be wrong- but probably the most shot down a/c  -called:"Fokker Fodder", kaltes Fleisch ("cold meat"), Albert Ball summed it up as "a bloody awful aeroplane", from Bloody April 1917-Lee, the pilot of the only aircraft to arrive safely, wrote in a letter to his wife:"I felt rather a cad not crashing too because everyone is glad to see death-traps like Quirks written off, especially new ones.",  of the war so that makes for a macabre honor) many units used it and the home success against the Zeps makes for appeal.

Despite all that it would be a pass for me, waiting for a Dolphin.

Ed

Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on September 10, 2015, 08:25:23 AM
The reason I would like to see a kit of the B.E.2 is because in 1912 the Central Flying School was established at Point Cook in Victoria, Australia and two of the aircraft they received were B.E.2a aircraft designated CFS-1 and CFS-2, these were used as advanced trainers. I would like to make a model of one of these aircraft, even though the kit, if released, probably will not be the B.E.2a but more than likely the B.E.2c I can make modifications to convert the plane to a 2a. Naturally, this is all a dream and depends on Wingnuts releasing a kit.

Des.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: KiwiZac on September 10, 2015, 09:52:09 AM
I want to see a BE.2 because when I saw the original F uncovered on "Restoration Row" in 2005 it was gorgeous, and seeing it fly four years later was a revelation. A beautiful machine, and such history. The only other one from the TVAL stable I've seen fly so far was the C, which is in a class all of its own.

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/cf09/DSC_0626.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/cf09/DSC_0626.jpg.html)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/cf09/DSC_0015-1.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/cf09/DSC_0015-1.jpg.html)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/cf09/DSC_0412.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/cf09/DSC_0412.jpg.html)

I really do hope a BE of some kind is imminent from WNW!
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on September 10, 2015, 01:04:40 PM
Thanks very much for the images, a beautiful aircraft.

Des.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: drdave on September 11, 2015, 06:33:57 AM
I would like to venture a guess, that WNW may be about to surprise us with a Starstruttter. There's a new Hansa Brandenburg book out by Colin Owers. Remember what happened around the Whalfisch and the W12? These books often share artwork from Ronny and profile etc. I am just speculating mind....
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: dr 1 ace on September 11, 2015, 07:30:28 AM
Des, Kiwi-(Thanks for the photos!) and Drdave, all excellent reasons, let's hope all our wishes come true....  And so, TWO Be's down there !!

Ed
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on September 11, 2015, 08:36:08 AM
The Hansa Brandenburg D.I Star-Strutter would be an unusual addition to the Wingnuts line-up of kits, admittedly it would make a great 1:32 scale model and totally different in appearance to what we are used to, you just never know, Christmas is approaching, we will see.

Des.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on September 13, 2015, 06:12:35 AM
maybe a bit late for the flag discussion but i like #3. its different and elegant in its simplicity
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: eclarson on September 13, 2015, 07:36:09 AM
An Avro 504c from WNW would be really cool!   :)

Eric
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on September 13, 2015, 07:38:45 AM
An Avro 504c from WNW would be really cool!   :)

Eric

True, along with the Curtiss Jenny, would make a great pair.

Des.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 13, 2015, 07:27:27 PM
It's got to be a DR.1. I will accept nothing less!!  ;D

Von Triple Ripple
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Jim on September 13, 2015, 08:27:59 PM
I'd settle for some of the sold-out kits I thought I read somewhere would be re-released with additional PE/detailing.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Nigel Jackson on September 14, 2015, 02:03:57 AM
It's got to be a DR.1. I will accept nothing less!!  ;D

Von Triple Ripple

Don't hold your breathe, VTR!

Besides, there must be nearly as many different kits of the wretched Triplane as were actual examples of the real thing built. Now, as for a BE2........

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Eric Armstrong on September 14, 2015, 02:16:56 AM
It's got to be a DR.1. I will accept nothing less!!  ;D

Von Triple Ripple

Yes!  A man of principle.  I say Fokker triplane or bust! ;)
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Pgtaylorart on September 14, 2015, 04:10:32 AM
It's got to be a DR.1. I will accept nothing less!!  ;D

Von Triple Ripple

You've got Wingnuts shaking in their boots now, Von Triple Treat! ;D

George
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Doug Mace on September 14, 2015, 11:15:00 AM
It's got to be a DR.1. I will accept nothing less!!  ;D

Von Triple Ripple

You've got Wingnuts shaking in their boots now, Von Triple Treat! ;D

George
More like Von Triple Threat, eh wot?
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Malteser on September 14, 2015, 07:55:03 PM
I'd settle for some of the sold-out kits I thought I read somewhere would be re-released with additional PE/detailing.

Yes, this is what I was also told by WnW in response to a question about the possibility of re- releasing an oop kit.
Suzanne
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on September 14, 2015, 08:47:38 PM
Wingnuts have been talking about releasing special edition kits for many years now, a bit like their figures. The special edition kits are supposed to have quite a bit of PE, better decal options, figures etc. If and when it ever happens is anyones guess.

Des.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Kai on September 15, 2015, 06:14:39 AM
The mythical "Special Editions".

I read a magazine interview from 2009 or 2010, where Richard Alexander said that the special editions were "imminent".

Five years later......
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: mike in calif on September 15, 2015, 12:26:43 PM
"Imminenterer"
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on September 15, 2015, 02:16:42 PM
they are waiting to release the special editions until the botoom drops out of the ebay market on the lvg and w-29 one these prices stablize and no-one is interested in spending a tonne of cash on them anymore they will release the special editions with 5 new must have decal schemes and huge bag of goodies photo-etch,aviattic lozenge and resin details.lol
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: FarEast on September 15, 2015, 04:30:42 PM
I really don't think they care about the ebay grey market, even non-OOP kits sell for silly prices. 

I think what will happen is that they will do what they always do, release them when they are ready to do so.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: uncletony on September 15, 2015, 06:18:21 PM
I really don't think they care about the ebay grey market, even non-OOP kits sell for silly prices. 

I think what will happen is that they will do what they always do, release them when they are ready to do so.

No doubt.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Edo on September 16, 2015, 06:11:52 PM
True enough, Bo!
Nevertheless I envy their working condition as they don't seem stressed at all! Maybe it is all due to a downunder-mediterranean attitude, but compared to the pace other manufacturer in central Europe turn out models is seems to me they do enjoy a lovely work enviorment...
Here in Italy we say that "Perfection is Good's enemy" and, even if I like WNW to notch quality, I am turning to other manufacturers as I don't like all the subjects in their catalougue and no new one is coming out (not considering the price issue).
So maybe, they should consider this threat in their business model: a too long waiting for a perfect model could divert part of their demand to other manufacturer....
not wanting to teach nothing to anyone, just a stream of consciousness of mine...

ciao
Edo
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on September 17, 2015, 03:27:50 AM
I was just horsing around by saying that.i was implying that the WNW employees are selling oop kits that they personally  stashed and were going to wait unttil that market died out before they give us the special editions .I was just kidding around though
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: uncletony on September 17, 2015, 05:29:01 AM
ah... that went over my head :)
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Kai on September 17, 2015, 06:49:57 AM
What's that, WNW are doing a horse?

Is it 1/32 or 1/35?
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: jamieg on September 22, 2015, 02:47:47 PM
They just announced the postwar Bristol fighter as their newest release.

Jamie
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Nigel Jackson on September 22, 2015, 02:56:26 PM
They just announced the postwar Bristol fighter as their newest release.

Jamie

And at the same price as their original Brisfit.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on September 22, 2015, 02:59:31 PM
Same price and still with free post.

Des.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: janh on September 23, 2015, 07:29:21 PM
It's been a week since the release, i ordered the instant is was available. Up to now i've had NO confirmation of my order nor a notice of the box being shipped. Has anyone received a notification??
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: fredjocko on September 23, 2015, 07:55:57 PM
I received notice that mine shipped Tuesday morning, 09/22/2015, and when I checked the status on the NZ Post website it was already enroute to the USA. Usually it says its being transported to the post office for a few days.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on September 23, 2015, 09:05:18 PM
From past experience the NZ post tracking system is highly unreliable, I have received my order before the tracking says the parcel had even left NZ, about as reliable as a two bob watch.

Des.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Russell on September 23, 2015, 10:23:08 PM
It's been a week since the release, i ordered the instant is was available. Up to now i've had NO confirmation of my order nor a notice of the box being shipped. Has anyone received a notification??

I ordered two kits last week & received the posting notification on Monday this week.

Regards
Russell
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: janh on September 24, 2015, 03:24:32 AM
I've alerted their shipping department
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: FarEast on September 25, 2015, 11:24:01 AM
From past experience the NZ post tracking system is highly unreliable, I have received my order before the tracking says the parcel had even left NZ, about as reliable as a two bob watch.

Des.

Same here - My latest kit (Roland C.IIa Late) only showed it had been picked up from the warehouse for delivery..... it arrived on Wednesday and then after signing all the tracking data was populated.

To be honest though I really can't understand what all the fuss when people start screaming blue murder when kits don't suddenly appear after 4 days or about delayed shipping, it's shipped tracked with insurance, if it goes missing Dave will contact the postal service AFTER the required time stipulated by the post office for claims has passed. If it can not be tracked Wingnut Wings will send out a new kit.

I don't think anyone in the history of WnW has lost out financially, although I know a few have benefited from it when kits thought lost have suddenly arrived on the doorstep 5-6 weeks after being shipped.

Yes you may need to wait an additional few days but in the grand scheme of things you haven't missed out on anything, nor have you lost money. Maybe use the time for some self awareness and gratitude meditation?
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: oldalbie on September 25, 2015, 12:02:23 PM
I've had a very positive experience so far with NZ post with the exception of decals for the Pfalz D IIIa.  Since they're not tracked through NZ post, I waited quite a while before contacting WNW for replacements.  Now I don't know if the loss was due to NZ Post or the USPS, but when I contacted WNW they were very helpful in sending new decals.  Since I live in California the usual time between ordering and receiving isn't that long a wait.  In fact, the last kit I got arrived in 1 week total time which included a day held up in customs in LA. 
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: fredjocko on September 25, 2015, 09:49:45 PM
I have had only one kit go missing and Dave and his team did an awesome job and sent a replacement. While I have fondled the plastic many a time it is still in the box waiting to be built.

If it wasn't for US Customs I would have my kit in three days. Usually it sits in Customs longer than it took to ship the kit.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: coyotemagic on September 26, 2015, 01:44:47 AM
Living on the US west coast, I've never had a WNW kit take longer than 7 days to get here.  I'm fairly certain that any shipping issues that any of us have, have been on the receiving end.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on September 26, 2015, 03:16:29 AM
I have the same results in new orleans bud.there was one time when the Christmas release held up because they didn't have enough in stock but they alerted everyone that they would run out of dh 9a and W 29 kits so when me and my buddy Jack ordered like six kids the one kitthat he wanted wasn't around other than that a week or less
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on September 26, 2015, 08:21:39 AM
Living just across the pond from New Zealand here in Australia most of my kits have landed here within 4 days, but there has been the odd occasion where it has taken up to two weeks due to unknown circumstances, but I have never had a kit go missing, just a matter of waiting I'm afraid.

Des.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: 15badcats on September 26, 2015, 08:38:49 AM
I had 2 go missing in customs and had to file with paypal to get my money back Of course it was 2 that went out of production so WNW couldn't send replacements
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Kai on September 26, 2015, 09:05:48 AM
A few kits delayed, but entirely the fault of Parcelforce.

There was the time I ordered a Felixstowe & a W.12. Opened the box, I had a pair of Felixstowe's, early & late.

I didn't complain.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Russell on September 26, 2015, 06:19:19 PM
It's been a week since the release, i ordered the instant is was available. Up to now i've had NO confirmation of my order nor a notice of the box being shipped. Has anyone received a notification??

I ordered two kits last week & received the posting notification on Monday this week.

Regards
Russell

Further to the above - yesterday a demand for the expected VAT arrived from Parcelforce so the kits have obviously arrived in the UK. Not lightning fast but more than quick enough.

Regards
Russell
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Des on September 27, 2015, 09:08:34 AM
My local post office man told me that with the massive increase in internet sales the parcel delivery services worldwide has been finding it difficult to manage the huge influx of parcels, hence delivery times have slowed down somewhat. I have noticed this with parcels coming form interstate within Australia, what used to be a two day delivery time has now stretched out to 4 days, annoying but at least the parcel does eventually arrive.

Des.
Title: Re: News from WNW
Post by: Thumbs up on September 27, 2015, 11:12:53 PM
A few kits delayed, but entirely the fault of Parcelforce.

There was the time I ordered a Felixstowe & a W.12. Opened the box, I had a pair of Felixstowe's, early & late.

I didn't complain.

 :o Why does'nt that ever happen t me!