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Title: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on February 25, 2015, 11:58:58 PM
(http://www.britmodeller.com/reviews/revell/fokkerdr1/boxtop.jpg)

Having finished (finally) the Revell VW Samba Bus a few days ago, I looked at my stash for the next build.  I haven't got (yet) a model for the main GB, and couldn't decide (yet) what scheme to do with my WNW DV, in order to join the mini group build.

Therefore I opted for Revell's Dr1 in 1:48.  This is the one that is a re-boxed Eduard molding, but in bright red plastic!  I have the Eduard Weekend version and the extra PE set, but will use those at some other time.

I will do this one OOB bar the rigging.  As much as it seems corny to build this kit in the MvR scheme, it appears to me that folks avoid doing so, in the belief that everyone does.  I have read several "debates" on the markings for this particular aircraft, ie when the cross style changed, the interior colour, was the red paint applied at the factory or over the original streaking etc etc.

I decided to avoid falling into the trap of trying to get a truly historically accurate model, as I was getting a headache with the inconclusive research - what the heck, it is only a model that will sit on my shelf!  I'll do the all red scheme, and probably darken the final coat with some black weathering powder to avoid a toy-like finish.

Pics may be few and far between as I am in between cameras and laptops, but will show progress when I can,  I have cut out some of the major components to do a bit of test fitting ie fuselage halves, mid and lower wing etc and with minimal fettling all should be fine.  So far the components exhibit a little flash, but not so much that can't be cleaned up with a sharp blade.

I am expecting this to be a relatively quick assembly.
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Modelnut on February 26, 2015, 09:17:53 AM
I say go for the MVR scheme. I debated a long time before adding the all red plane to my shelf. I have Lothar 's yellow plane so his brother HAD to be wingman.
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: petrov27 on February 26, 2015, 09:36:20 AM
Fantastic - will be following this one! I actually have the same build of MvR's tripe underway in 1/32 with many of the same thoughts you mention about how to do it
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Alexis on February 26, 2015, 12:38:15 PM
Looking forward to your build Ian  :)




Terri
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Naimbs on February 26, 2015, 05:53:10 PM
A Triplane! Yes!!!!  ;D!
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on February 26, 2015, 07:35:09 PM
Thanks for the comments folks :)  When I do the Eduard version I'll pick a different scheme.

A little progress last night.  I painted the interior of the fuselage halves, initially using a white primer spray.  The inside of the linen received a light tan coat, and the wooden panel was done with several brown pencil shades covered in a satin mid-brown wash.  The metal framework has been primed with Mr Metal Aluminium - this brushes on very thin and retains all the details so makes an excellent primer for "metal" components that are painted later.  I'll choose a suitable blue/green/grey colour to wash over for the framework.  Applying a thin top coat allows some of the metal effect to come through.  I primed the engine components and the cowling in the same way.

The Revell kit has no instrument decals - not even for the instrument (is it a fuel gauge?) on the bar between the guns.  Fortunately, the PE set I have for the Eduard version has some parts duplicated, one of them being this gauge.  I will use a spare instrument decal from a WNW sheet for the compass face - it isn't a compass decal but will be so small as to make no difference.  I also have some spare PE seatbelts from the Mirage Halberstadt, not exactly identical to the set on the Eduard PE set, but close enough to make little difference.

So much for OOB then!  I may even look to do control rigging in the cockpit and engine spark leads, but maybe not any interior frame rigging.

The best news for me so far is the fit.  The fuselage halves match very well, and the mid/lower wings and cowling look to be a good fit too - in alignment as well as the fit itself.  Flash is present but minimal, especially compared to Airfix for example.

As long as I don't make too many mistakes, this may be better than I expected.
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on February 27, 2015, 10:20:51 AM
First pics showing starboard side cockpit frame added to fuselage.  Not my best wood effect but will be virtually hidden.

Second pic shows how the fuselage fits together well, and with the map(?) case fitted.  I cut out some other components such as the floor and seat bulkhead - everything fits.  I learned with WNW to test fit at every available opportunity!

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/ianfromdoncaster/dr1/first%20frame_zps80zmaspe.jpg)

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/ianfromdoncaster/dr1/test%20fit_zpsjpndjsyb.jpg)
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Alexis on February 27, 2015, 11:41:17 AM
Looking good Ian , nice wood !



Terri
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on March 03, 2015, 10:32:26 AM
A bit more work on the cockpit interior.

I assembled the rudder bar and its support and control column, and the little yoke for the aileron control.  Wires (ez line painted steel) were attached for controls, and also for the frame rigging that will be visible.

I used a spare instrument decal for the compass.  It isn't a compass, but will suffice at this scale, and is sealed with a drop of klear.

The metalwork is painted Mr Metal Aluminium then coated with blue/grey paint, showing metal where worn.

The parts still fit well, and I keep closing the fuselage to check the tolerances etc.  Next up is the seat/seatbelt assembly, the ammo boxes and closing up the fuselage.

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/ianfromdoncaster/dr1/controls_zpsfyhnk5nv.jpg)

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/ianfromdoncaster/dr1/compass_zpsgydjjagz.jpg)
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: coyotemagic on March 03, 2015, 10:41:54 AM
Great start, Ian!  Looking forward to watching this come together.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Alexis on March 03, 2015, 10:54:25 AM
She is starting to come together nicely , looking forward on the next up-date .




Terri
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on March 05, 2015, 10:18:14 AM
Thanks Bud, Terri.

The cockpit is now done.  I made the seat assembly including the robbed seatbelts.  Once the seat was in place I threaded the elevator and rudder control cables through a hole I made in the frame beneath the seat, then tightened the rigging before fixing with CA.

The ammo boxes and cross member to support the guns are not fixed yet at both ends, I can do that from the top.  The rear gun supporting frame is also yet to be added, but I will fit that with the guns later as the assembly will be too fragile to press the guns into place otherwise.  The fuselage halves are now glued together and the fit is still good.  I also started the engine, there are only 2 kit parts - the main engine body and a spider-like set of pipes.  I think I will make push rods from brass tube as these will be visible.  No pics yet, but the engine fits nicely inside the cowling.

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/ianfromdoncaster/dr1/controls%20rigged_zpswdrqxf10.jpg)

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/ianfromdoncaster/dr1/cockpit%20done_zpsd7vxyuvp.jpg)
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: BigBlue on March 06, 2015, 11:35:00 AM
Very nice so far, Ian!

Chris
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: RAGIII on March 06, 2015, 02:07:07 PM
Ian,
Really well done interior! I am looking forward to your further progress! By the way I like your choice of red!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: radio on March 06, 2015, 07:36:31 PM
Great work to the interior Ian.
Martin
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on March 07, 2015, 01:50:47 AM
Looking really slick, Ian.  Amazing all that detail in such a small space.

Well done!

Dan
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on March 08, 2015, 11:18:25 AM
A little more progress in the last few days.  The fuselage and lower wing are glued together, painted and decalled.  I used a grey primer under thin coats of red paint - I had read that the red colour should be quite dark, so a darker primer would help.  The fuselage/wing has been coated with Klear for the decalling, but I will spray satin varnish later, but not on the cowling as I want this to retain a more glossy finish to differentiate from the fabric. 

I also painted the cowling but after priming with mr metal iron.  The kit engine has minimal detail so I added L shaped bits of .4mm brass tube to represent push rods.  There is no detailing on these, but they are only visible from underneath.  The engine and cowling are sat just for the pics.

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/ianfromdoncaster/dr1/cowling_zpsgtg9gxqb.jpg)

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/ianfromdoncaster/dr1/pushrods_zpsomitrckf.jpg)
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: WarrenD on March 08, 2015, 11:20:46 AM
Some great progress there Ian.

Warren
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: RAGIII on March 08, 2015, 04:26:17 PM
Ian,
Looking great and as I said before I love the red shade!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Des on March 08, 2015, 05:29:58 PM
Just caught up with this build and I'm glad I did, it is looking really good so far Ian, the interior work is excellent.

Des.
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on March 08, 2015, 06:54:45 PM
Thanks folks :)

The red paint is Revell Aqua Carmine Red no 36.  I read elsewhere a lengthy debate on how dark the red on the original aircraft was, and the strong argument was for a darker blood shade.

In natural light rather than camer flash, this has applied quite dark, especially over the darker primer, and I am quite pleased with the colour achieved.  I had one mishap with the port side (after painting and Klear coating) with a very careless mr metal fingerprint, but with careful cleaning with micromesh and touch up paint and Klear, this is all fixed.  Good job I missed the decals - but only just!

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/ianfromdoncaster/dr1/daylight_zpslunqs7lf.jpg)
(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/ianfromdoncaster/dr1/cowling_zpsgtg9gxqb.jpg)
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Ernie on March 08, 2015, 09:30:09 PM
Great work, Ian!  The picture of the "true colour" in natural light
is gorgeous!  It gives a good look at the superb job you have done
on the red.  Terrific progress, my friend, and I look forward to the
next updates. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Nigel Jackson on March 08, 2015, 10:16:56 PM
It's coming along very nicely, Ian, and I agree with Ernie about the natural light colour.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: WarrenD on March 09, 2015, 12:22:07 AM
Thanks for posting which red you used Ian. I think it looks spot on compared to a photo I saw of one of the struts from MvR's tripe in the AWM.

Warren
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: radio on March 09, 2015, 02:58:40 AM
Exellent painting Ian.
Martin
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on March 09, 2015, 08:43:48 AM
Thank you.

Today I prepared and painted the rest of the control surfaces.  These are the same as the fuselage, ie painted red and coated with Klear.  All except the metal parts will get a satin spray before final assembly.

I deliberately left the top cowling a shade darker than the rest for a bit of variety.  The engine cowling will look different still as it will stay glossy.  Here again the pics are with the flash, so the colour reproduction isn't true to life, however the colour matched that shown above.

The mid and upper wings, tail and elevator and the engine and its own cowling are only sat in place here for the pics.   For a cheap kit, the fit is excellent - there is no tape or temporary glue holding this all together, and no cabanes yet.

The model is sat on my Revell Carmine Red paint pot to show the size. even in 1:48 this is a tiny model.

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/ianfromdoncaster/dr1/test%20fit%202_zpsqxmc0ba0.jpg)

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/ianfromdoncaster/dr1/test%20fit%203_zpsbtpfj61p.jpg)

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/ianfromdoncaster/dr1/test%20fit%201_zpsdcr30bik.jpg)
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Ernie on March 09, 2015, 09:17:19 AM
The DR.1 looks great, Ian!  It sounds like Revell has done well with their
engineering as you have mentioned the excellent fit of parts. Very good
update and I look forward to your next.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Alexis on March 09, 2015, 09:24:00 AM
The DR.1 looks great, Ian!  It sounds like Revell has done well with their
engineering as you have mentioned the excellent fit of parts. Very good
update and I look forward to your next.

Cheers,
Ernie :)


Not Revell engineering Ernie , this is Eduards Molds just re-box by Revell .

Super job on this little guy so far Ian .  :)



Terri
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on March 09, 2015, 09:39:14 AM
Thanks Ernie, Terri.

Yes this is a re-box of the Eduard kit.  I think the sprues even have Eduard stamped on them.  I have the Weekend version but I doubt I could do it in a weekend!  I don't think I can avoid streaking on my next Dr1.
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: coyotemagic on March 09, 2015, 09:50:30 AM
She's really coming along quickly, Ian.  Marvelous job thus far.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: radio on March 09, 2015, 10:23:49 AM
Wonderful working to this build Ian.
Martin
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on March 10, 2015, 06:10:23 PM
Thanks Bud, Martin.

Last night I assembled and rigged the tail assembly, all bar the tailplane struts.  Went together reasonably well.  Having painted the control surfaces and applied decals, I prepared the very simple control horns by painting in mr metal iron.  The rigging is similarly coloured ez line - first the lines were glued onto the airframe, and the top of the horizontal stabilizer.  Then once the assembly was glued, I put a drop of ca on the end of each control horn, and stretched the rigging over the horns, and trimmed when dry.

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/ianfromdoncaster/dr1/tail%201_zpsfgjk08di.jpg)

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/ianfromdoncaster/dr1/tail%202_zpsfscujdde.jpg)
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: radio on March 11, 2015, 04:57:03 AM
Very well done.
Martin
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on April 29, 2015, 08:25:00 AM
Calling this one done, see completed model thread http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=5596.msg100378#msg100378 (http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=5596.msg100378#msg100378)
Title: Re: Revell Fokker Dr1 in 1:48 MvR
Post by: RAGIII on April 29, 2015, 12:55:02 PM
Your control rigging came out quite well!
RAGIII