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Title: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ssasho0 on July 04, 2014, 04:49:02 AM
Hello guys,

this is the second project I'm working simultaniously - the WnW's Fokker EIV.
The idea of the build came from a photo of Max Immelman standing next to Prince Boris III (later Tzar) and I willtry to add 2 figures representing them.
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/2293099001_01ec990724_o_zps6e12ce92.jpg)
The build is OoB with the exception of HGW seatbelts and gaspatch turnbuckles. Little to no detailing will be done as I really want to build something fast, with no hastle and for the fun of it. I was thinking of getting the Taurus models engine, but decided that it requires more from the build that I'm ready to put into it at the moment. Probably my next Eindecker will have the better engine and additional detailing and more aftermarket but the not this one, the aim here is pure recreational building with no intention the end result to be displayed at model shows.
While keeping in mind the things I said above, this is in no way a build that will be screwed! I will do my best to achieve an OK result, I just won't put 8 months into the build, but more like 2 and a half!
Special thanks to Des, Bertl, Bo Monroe and all of YOU guys and gals (hopefully) for the great tips and tricks that you sharing in your build logs!
So then Bertl started working on his Fokker and I decided that showing my work, while he shows his masterwork is just.... well ... a bit embarasing. At the end thou I decided to open the build log here - embarassing or not :-P So don't expect wonders, but be ready to show me the flaws and to give advice and constructive criticism!

Already most of the work is done, engine, metal cowling, wings and body, most of the undercarriage is also done. I plan to have the undercarriage glued by the end of this week and start rigging the next one. At the end I paln to carve the propeller from wood. If this doesn't work, then I'm going to paint the one supplied with the kit.
The hardest thing so far was the engine and specifically gluing the halves without the tiny edge where the halves meet, and I totally failed there! This issue alone is enough to get the Taurus engine, gluing the halves perfectl without a trace of the joint is very hard and for my level of skill totally impossible.
The rest of the kit is the usual WnW quality and easy of assembly.
Now the WiP pictures:

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_1899_zps13e98c00.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2005_zps18b53ddd.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_1998_zps50a05bfc.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2141_zps44b7b8d7.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2243_zps659e0e1b.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2293_zps30fb6af9.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2239_zpsdd0f20ad.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2301_zps3ebe8fa7.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2311_zps96230963.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/20140601_162831_zpsbdc52d7d.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/20140601_162819_zps0e7d4c5a.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2339_zpscbb9d6dc.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2367_zps1170a1dc.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2355_zps93c79c70.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2348_zps22db5149.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2359_zpsc0b10366.jpg)
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on July 04, 2014, 05:08:30 AM
Wow, what an update/build log beginning! I love your interior, construction, Metal work, and the finish of the scheme!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on July 04, 2014, 06:27:25 AM
Excellent work Ssasho0, looks superb.

What method did you use to paint the metal swirls?
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: coyotemagic on July 04, 2014, 08:45:27 AM
Wow, what an update/build log beginning! I love your interior, construction, Metal work, and the finish of the scheme!
RAGIII
Have to agree with my amigo, Sasho.  I couldn't have said it better.  Looking forward to the next update.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Alexis on July 04, 2014, 09:05:43 AM
Excellent work Ssasho0, looks superb.

What method did you use to paint the metal swirls?

Same question for me , your metal work looks fabulous !



Terri
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Steven Robson on July 04, 2014, 09:31:40 AM
Just beautiful, I love it.  :)

Great metal finish, can't wait to see this one rigged.
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Mark on July 04, 2014, 11:27:45 AM
Yes, SBS on the metal swirls, please!  :)  Wonderful job!

Mark G.
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: lcarroll on July 04, 2014, 12:59:33 PM
SsashoO,
    "little to no detailing, want to build something fast, Nice try! It's magnificent already, very impressive and I'd hate to see the results if you really went at this! Great start, and I'll be following this Build closely!! :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Steven Robson on July 04, 2014, 01:58:26 PM
I agree with Lance, SsashoO reckons this one's a quick build.

Hmmm, this is aspirational modelling for me.  Keep going ShashoO and please spill all your secrets on the polished metal finish. 
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Nigel Jackson on July 04, 2014, 04:59:14 PM
Well, I suppose it's all relative. Whether a fast build  pretty much out of the box or not, this seems a wonderful piece of work to me Ssasho0, and I can only admire your skills. Thank you for sharing this build with us.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ssasho0 on July 04, 2014, 07:00:02 PM
Thank you guys for hte nice words!

Regarding the metal finish at the begining at wanted to try few different approaches to this "Swirl" issue and on the metal cowlings, inside the fuselage I tried the following 2 things":
1) Painted with Alclad II chrome then a relatively thick layer of Mr Colour Stainless. After a day I put a toothpick (the end was rounded first) in my dremel and tried to peel only the first layer of stainless and show the chrome bellow, this way achieving as real effect as possible. It was a total failure as the toothpick is too hard and goes right thru all layers to the plastic too easy. Probably this can be done and I will try it again on another project, but I will put a layer of varnish over the chrome, use something with rubber end instead of toothpick and final but not least important, I will have to get a flexible shaft extension as, while the dremel is small and not heavy tool, this particular task requires very light touches that are hard to execute.
2) Painted stainless and then made the swirls with a silver pen - this looked relatively OK, but I decided that it is a no as the swirls were too thick, too regular and the silver particals too big and visible.

So after rendering both those techniques useless (at least for now) I went with the usual way of handbruhing the swirls as on the "tips" page at the WnW site. I needed 5 attmepts till I found the best combo of paints and brush and got the swirls to look more or less OK! In the end I used Mr Surfacer 1500 black, then polished it and applied Alclad II stainless steel. Buffed this one slightly with cotton bud and made the swirls with Mr Colour Chrome SIlver. Lessons learned are:
- Use a good quality brush, I attempted this in the begining with some very small but not so good brushes and failed miserably. Then I got my best brush (W&N #7 with Kolinsky hairs)and while the brush is a little big bigger then the previous ones, the swirls were way finer and way more controlled!
- Always take the paint from the cap and not from the bottle itself. Reshake the bottle every few minutes as the thinner evaporates and the paints get too thick
- clean the brush every several swirls with thinner (Mr. leveling thinner in my case) as the paint is getting thick on it and the quality of the swirls is going down.
After that it was just Alclad Aqua gloss for protection

Hopefully this explains everything but if you have question I will gladly answer them!

Best regards,
Sasho
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Steven Robson on July 04, 2014, 07:21:10 PM
Excellent Sassho0, thanks for the tips on the polished metal finish.  :)

I also like the mottled effect on your wings.
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: radio on July 04, 2014, 08:27:01 PM
A very good build Sasho.
Martin
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ernie on July 04, 2014, 10:30:42 PM
I so admire your work, Sassho0!  The Eindecker is looking superb and I
am looking forward to the next updates.  Thank you for your excellent
explanation of the swirling technique.  That is very helpful and makes it
seem less daunting.

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on July 04, 2014, 10:57:46 PM
Thanks for the explanation Ssasho0, especially the details of what didn't work!

At least with this model the interior surfaces provide an experimental area that doesn't ruin the overall finish of the model.
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: dr 1 ace on July 09, 2014, 08:05:24 AM
Wow, what an update/build log beginning! I love your interior, construction, Metal work, and the finish of the scheme!
RAGIII
Have to agree with my amigo, Sasho.  I couldn't have said it better.  Looking forward to the next update.
Cheers,
Bud

Dittos to my 2 Amigos' comments !1
Ed
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Alexis on July 09, 2014, 08:52:22 AM
How is the Alclad Aqua gloss and how much does it distort the original sheen of the Alclad ? I haven't had much luck with using lacquers or even acrylic flat and glosses . It really effects the out come and not a good way .




Terri
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: youngtiger1 on July 09, 2014, 03:43:02 PM
Wow Sasho, this is some wonderful work you are doing. I love the rigging work on the cockpit frame. Btw, on the engine cowlings...are those tiny markings decals or hand painted? TIA.

Mike
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Dave in Dubai on July 09, 2014, 04:33:43 PM
Nice build Ssascho0,

One observation is that it looks like you have partially crushed the potoetch jackets of the Spandau lmg's.

Did this happen whilst inserting them through the upper cockpit cowl?

I guess it would be too difficult to correct without assembling the jackets after the gun body is placed through the cowling slots?

I have had similar problems assembling photoetch jackets and the problem is that they are very fragile.

Usually resolve it by heating and annealing the brass before rolling it round the jacket former and then quenching it quickly in water which seems to make it a bit stronger and resistant to handling .

I like the fabric effect you have acheived on the wings and the engine cowl swirls.

Best wishes

D in D
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ssasho0 on July 09, 2014, 05:14:45 PM
Thank you again people, this one is nearing the rigging more and more with every day and I will be on that favorite stage of mine pretty soon!

@Terri: Alclad Aqua Glos is actually an acrylic gloss and it is very thin. I haven't worked with Future floor polish as this product is not available in my country, but according to the guys in my club that used both products, Aqua Gloss is a little bit thicker, but still the thinnest acrylic gloss available around here. I usually put some in a small cup and dip the canopies and other clear parts in it and then let them dry. For normal parts I just airbrush it, but at the first pass it makes the surface grainy (maybe it is the pressure or something) and you have to add one more heavy layer to make it glossy. I sometimes dip small non clear parts as the results are excelelnt and it is easier than airbrushing 10sec and cleaning 10mins :-/. Ofcourse it distorts the shine of Alclad, but this is normal and cannot be avoided. I just prepare the surface before alclad and make it more shiny than required, so after the gloss it bacomes as shiny as I want it. The better you prepare the surface, the shinier the result, unfortunately on small parts with many curves etc it is not always possible. Still Aqua gloss distorts the shine less than any other gloss I have tried up to now and generally it is an excellent product.
@youngtiger: if you mean the swirls, those are handpainted :)
@Dave in Dubai: yes, I crushed them a little bit and I will have to straighten them somehow. Probably I will have to remove the gunsights and use thin metal rod to push the jackets from the inside. This damage was done while while I was working on the underside of the fuselage and didn't handled the model carefully :( Unfortunately the parts were already glued and detaching them completely is not possible. Thanks for the tip with the cold water!

I started working on the tail skid, the undercarriage and the tail. There is one comment that I would liek to make. I really like the clever engineering of WnW kits and I'm sure they are really proud with it - it is visible from the kits. Still, sometimes this urge for clever design of the parts fails them and they are going to the desired effect by a longer way than the way easier and staright forward "classic' way. Why am I saying all this, you may wonder - well the tail (sorry I don't know the right English words, but I will try to describe it) where the control cables are exiting the fuselage and going to the tail control surfaces, WnW decided to add small part in a "hole". This all sound pretty clever and everything, but mating the small part and the fuselage without a trace is quite upsetting. It is not hard just annoying, but while you spend few putty - sanding sessions you start to wonder "Why?". Ofcourse, there is a lot of fault on me, as I left this for after painting instead of doing this on an earlier stage as it is in the instructions, still it would have been way easier if those were just part of the halves. Rant over!
ANyway this is a very minor issue, even thou a bit frustrating and will be dealt with on my 4th putty - sanding session tonight :) Meanwhile here is a picture of the model as it is right now :) Please excuse the mess on my working bench, but I had no time for decent session this morning before going to work. The wings and tail details are not glued.

Additional question for the figure painters: how do you paint realistically looking gogles?

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/Fokekr%20EIV/20140707_0511410_zps8f5f94d7.jpg)
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: frame on July 09, 2014, 07:56:11 PM
Hello Ssashoo
Oh plane found buddy.
Very nice job as aircraft and on figure.
I love how you made the fabric on the wings I think it's pretty realistic.
Of course, the metal finishes are wonderful. And it was all very nice.
Keep up the good.

Best Regards
Hristo
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on July 09, 2014, 08:33:20 PM
Absolutely Lovely painting and detailing! The figure looks outstanding!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: mgunns on July 10, 2014, 04:21:18 AM
Hello Ssashoo:

Truly and outstanding build to date.  I am doing the early EIII and am seriously thinking of getting this one too and doing it in Immelman's markings as you.  Your work is inspiring Ssashoo and I am enjoying your work and your comments.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: vincentm on July 10, 2014, 07:41:17 AM
Great work. Thanks for posting the time pic.
I was just going to ask you how you got this galvanized metal effect, so thanks for the explanations.
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: jknaus on July 10, 2014, 11:28:20 AM
Looks gorgeous. That figure is fantastic too. For goggles I have painted the glass white then used a clear blue. Vallejo makes one for the episcopes on armour models. Not at home right now to give the name and part number.
James
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Kreston on July 10, 2014, 11:53:59 AM
Nice work!  I would paint the lenses of the goggles the same color as the leather flying cap underneath them and, when dry, add a couple drops of a clear gloss to represent the lenses.
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: uncletony on July 13, 2014, 11:26:24 PM
Just catching up on this one Ssashoo...

Really nice all around, bravo!
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Alexis on July 14, 2014, 03:40:28 AM
Thanks for the reply back Ssashoo  :) I'm going to see if my LHS can order this in for me . I do like the effect far better then using future .





Terri
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: xmald on July 14, 2014, 08:52:02 AM
A great build mate!!!
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: mgunns on July 18, 2014, 05:08:24 AM
Hello Sasshoo:

This is really looking great.  Your figure looks great as well.  Like has been mentioned.  I would paint the goggles the color of the helmet, maybe a little darker and when dry, fill the void with a gloss clear.
Looking forward to seeing you continue your updates and progress through the build.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ssasho0 on July 19, 2014, 09:26:30 PM
thank you very much for the goggles advices :) I really appreciate those and will follow them!
Meanwhile I was working on the fuselage stains, mainly on the two sides, but will continue with the upper and lower sides asap. I just lack pictures of Immelman's aircraft top and bottom. If someone can help it would be great, if not, I will use the so called "artistic license" :)
Any comments and recommendations ar emor ethan welcome!

Best regards,
SAsho

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2622_zpsb5ae7960.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2627_zps3a786048.jpg)
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Alexis on July 19, 2014, 11:03:32 PM
Can't help with the photo's SsashoO , but I can say what you have done with the weathering really looks the part . Hard to tell though the picture is very dark . Do you have another light source to high light your excellent work ?




Terri
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ssasho0 on July 20, 2014, 02:23:07 AM
You are absolutely right Terri,

The pic is too dark, I should have increased the ISO and used dark background. The picture was taken in daylight around 14:00 on my terrace, so it is not the amount of light but the settings of the camera

I will take new ones tomorrow and post, together with the some archive photos

Best regards,
Sasho
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Umlaufmotor on July 20, 2014, 05:32:58 AM
Yes, the pictures are dark, but no matter - the thing looks excellent.  :o
Excellent weathering, in the right place and in the correct relationship to the original.
Really great work Sasho!!!

By the way, be careful when you turn back the Gate-Visor of the gun.  ;)

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ssasho0 on July 21, 2014, 04:34:55 AM
Thank you for the nice comment Bertl, I'm trying to work according to the pictures, but the lack of any painter's skills makes the things ahrder or not as close to the original as I would liked. Maybe I overdid the weathering, so I will add some of the main colour to the next layer of varnish to decrease the effect a little bit.
I also worked on the engine cowling, but still I haven't finished repairing the spandau's. I actually haven't started repairing them :)
Here are the pictures, any comments or recommendations are most welcomed.
Contrary tot he sides, the belly seems to need more weathering, but I'm not quite sure where and how much, so for now it stays the way it is. A bit of advice for this will be most appreciated

best regards,
Sasho

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/1_zps0170a9c1.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/2_zps2f31dd62.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2644_zps3d4f6f81.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2638_zps2bb1dd82.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2633_zps1fa40a4a.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/SAM_2634_zpse5d571ff.jpg)
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Steven Robson on July 21, 2014, 03:18:52 PM
Ooooohhh  Ahhhhh  That's really nice on the finishes SsashoO.

Very beautiful indeed.
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: mgunns on July 21, 2014, 10:16:58 PM
Hello Ssashoo:

The finish is outstanding in my estimation.  I think you nailed the oil staining quite well.  I am looking forward to your next update.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ernie on July 21, 2014, 10:53:18 PM
Hello Ssashoo:

The finish is outstanding in my estimation.  I think you nailed the oil staining quite well.  I am looking forward to your next update.

Best

Mark

I completely agree with Mark.  The staining looks spot-on.  Lovely work, Sasho!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: eindecker on July 22, 2014, 02:10:06 AM
From the photos it appears the oil staining on the lower fuselage sides have seeped up from underneath, so I would consider applying more staining to the bottom of the fuselage than you now have. My understanding is that the E types stained quickly and extensively. I believe you have captured the side staining superbly.
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on July 22, 2014, 08:18:16 AM
The Staining looks beautiful to my eyes! A little more on the lower Longeron , perhaps, but beware as you could take this beauty from a tastefully weathered beauty to an overdone relic.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: jknaus on July 23, 2014, 11:24:44 AM
Absolutely fantastic weathering.  ;D
James
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: kornbeef on July 23, 2014, 04:10:08 PM
The Staining looks beautiful to my eyes! A little more on the lower Longeron , perhaps, but beware as you could take this beauty from a tastefully weathered beauty to an overdone relic.
RAGIII
Rick thinks like I do too.  I love what you've done so far.


Keith
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Alexis on July 23, 2014, 09:46:54 PM
Very nice job on the weathering Ssashoo and thank-you for redoing the pic's . Your weathering really stands out , very impressive !




Terri
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Nigel Jackson on July 24, 2014, 12:32:32 AM
This looks first rate work to me, Ssasho0. Thank you for sharing it.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: guitarlute101 on July 24, 2014, 12:45:55 AM


Very nice!

Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ssasho0 on August 02, 2014, 07:38:29 PM
Hello,

thank you very much for the nice words and for the recomendations, I was very carefull not to overdo the weathering as this was what got me scared also - making her too dirty and ugly.
Well after staining the wings I think this phase is over, I iwll probably add some more in the tail area and just a tad more on the wings, thou I haven't decided on this for now.
On a side note, at the moment, we have 5 Eindecker builds and at elast 3 of them are on the same stage - undercarriage rigging :) My build is also there and I keep an eye on the others, so I will adhere to the advice of colour coding the turnbuckles red/green/blue, but just in the central area of each turnbuckle as I think the paint on the " eyelet"area will peel off and so I doubt it was painted at all. I used several photos of the undercarriage from the instruction booklet and WnW website to get the right location of the turnbucles as I don't want to screw this aspect of the model.
I also finished the tailskid, glued it and then got it broken, so I had to replace the plastic pin with some brass tubing, but that was easily fixable! I glued the wings and I will be working on the tail in the next days, I also have few decals tro put here and there :(
Here are the pictures, as usually any questions, comments, reccomendations or constructive criticism are welcomed

Best regards,
Sasho

PS: I just realized that I got too much pictures, but I will post them anyway

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/Fokekr%20EIV/SAM_2690_zpsb2d3d8f3.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/Fokekr%20EIV/SAM_2715_zpsb6ab5651.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/Fokekr%20EIV/SAM_2711_zps08ea10e9.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/Fokekr%20EIV/SAM_2710_zpscdc64327.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/Fokekr%20EIV/SAM_2707_zps313c960d.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/Fokekr%20EIV/SAM_2706_zps6f08fa0e.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/Fokekr%20EIV/SAM_2705_zpsf58c8cd3.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/Fokekr%20EIV/SAM_2704_zpsa1899c35.jpg)

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Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: radio on August 02, 2014, 10:11:29 PM
A wounderfull build.
Martin
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: guitarlute101 on August 02, 2014, 10:22:52 PM


Excellent workmanship Sasho. The weathering looks very good.

Mark
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on August 02, 2014, 10:52:40 PM
The rigging on the undersurface and gear looks terrific! The weathering is awesome!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: lcarroll on August 02, 2014, 11:00:39 PM
Sasho, your photos of the gear rigging are excellent, I'll be referring to them often when I start my build. Your weathering is superb!
Very nice work all round.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: jknaus on August 03, 2014, 12:43:40 AM
Awesome work. I am watching this with great interest. The staining and oil soaking looks fantastic.
James
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: coyotemagic on August 03, 2014, 01:01:52 AM
Truly lovely work, Sasho!  Makes me want to build one of these.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Umlaufmotor on August 03, 2014, 01:18:55 AM
Beautiful, realy beautiful work, Sasho!!

On the top view, it looks in my eyes, as if the left-hand elevator bent forward....... ???
Be careful when bending back. :-\

By the way, I' m also working currently on the landing gear with my WNW Fokker E.I  ;D

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: lone modeller on August 03, 2014, 04:02:56 AM
I have missed this up to now. This is a truly first class model with a standard of weathering and worn finish that I have rarely seen matched. This will be a winner when it is finished - no doubt.
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Adam on August 04, 2014, 05:19:12 PM
Everything   what you done looks perfectly it looks like real plane.

Adam.

Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ssasho0 on August 05, 2014, 06:08:22 PM
Thank you guys for the coments, I really appreciate them!

@Bertl - the tail elevators are not glued yet and by the way I got the part broken, but it is no isue and even makes the things easier. The left one is juts not fitted good enough but I will come to this ssoner than later :)
In the last days I was working on the rigging of the upper part. I made some changes ot the original parts G12 and A33: First I cut th epin of part A33, made a hole in the middle of the reel and with a bit of steel wire I made it working and with a hole behind in which the cables go. Then I cut the moulded turnbuckles in part G12 and replaced them with Gaspatch 1:32 turnbuckles. I used 1:48 Gaspatch bukles for the rest of the build so they look pretty much in scale :) To tighten the cables I used streched earbuds/cottonbuds. Unfortunately I don't have of this nice tubing Bertl, Bo and some others use.
Still there are 4 cables to be rigged and then I will have to fix all the small issues around the build and proceed with the tail rigging.

Best regards,
Sasho


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Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: FIREFOX1 on August 05, 2014, 07:12:25 PM
Ssasho0 wow really great build, shame I've only just found it, taking notes......
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Nigel Jackson on August 05, 2014, 09:36:35 PM
Lovely work on the cowling etc Ssasho0. It's all coming together beautifully. Not far to go now.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: mgunns on August 06, 2014, 12:05:14 AM
Hello Ssashoo:

The weathering really turned out nice.  I tried some on mine, but still no where as nice as yours.  Your metal work, the weathering and rigging are all outstanding and this is progressing into a very nice build.  Looking forward to your next update.  I too am taking notes and will be following your build when I get to  my Immelman EIV.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on August 06, 2014, 11:21:28 AM
Great progress Saasho! Everything is coming together nicely!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ssasho0 on August 23, 2014, 11:18:27 PM
Hello guys and gals,

a small update for my Fokker. The rigging in nearly complete, I broke one line at the tail and will have to re-do it, but otherwise rigging is complete. I have to finish the wheels, airspeed indicator (got the gaspatch one) and few small details here and there. Then I will call this one ready. Here are the pictures, any comments, constructive criticism or questions are more than welcome!

Best regards,
Sasho

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/Fokekr%20EIV/SAM_2985-3_zps08e54cc4.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/Fokekr%20EIV/SAM_2984_zps562605ee.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/Fokekr%20EIV/SAM_2979_zps899cbeb6.jpg)

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Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on August 23, 2014, 11:22:54 PM
Simply beautiful from the painting to the soaked in oil and spatters, to the rigging!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: BigBlue on August 23, 2014, 11:30:52 PM
You have done a beautiful job with this build.  I'll be thrilled if my Eindecker comes out anywhere close to this.

Congratulations,

Chris
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: uncletony on August 23, 2014, 11:46:17 PM
Nice job Sasho!
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: mgunns on August 24, 2014, 12:24:18 AM
Hello Ssasho:

I like the way this turned out.  You did an excellent job on the weathering, oil spatter and the swirls.  I am presently in the throes of doing this one before i head to the GB.  Looking forward to seeing you post this in the completed builds.

Best

mark
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: lcarroll on August 24, 2014, 02:55:41 AM
Sasho,
    Wonderful work on the weathering, your oil spatters etc are beautifully done. There's been some incredibly good modelling done on this Series here of late, and this one is included at the top end of the pile! Well done.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Adam on August 24, 2014, 04:13:17 AM
Beautiful  :)

Adam.
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: lone modeller on August 24, 2014, 04:19:20 AM
What can I add? Modelling of the highest quality is being displayed here. The finish is just fantastic. Very many congratulations.
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: coyotemagic on August 24, 2014, 05:46:34 AM
I've never been much of an Eindecker fan, Sasho, but, damn, if I don't want to build one now!  Beautiful work all 'round.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Alexis on August 24, 2014, 11:18:17 PM
Like Bud , not a big fan on the Eindecker , but you really hit a home run on this one ! Looking forward on the final pic's  ;D




Terri
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Umlaufmotor on August 24, 2014, 11:42:04 PM
For my taste far too little rubber on the rims, but the rest is excellent ...............  ;D
Very good work, Sasho!!  ;)
Good idea with the 1/32 gas patch turnbuckles on the pylon.

This idea I will use shamelessly at my E.I.

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ernie on August 25, 2014, 01:32:24 AM
Catching up on my reading.  Sasho, you have a superb model here.  I am an
Eindecker fan and yours is wonderful!  Thank you for explaining many hints
and tips that I will be able to use in my to-be built EII/III kit.  Very enjoyable
build log, my friend. :)

Cheers,
Ernie :)



Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: radio on August 25, 2014, 06:52:33 AM
great building, painting and rigging.
Martin
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: bobs_buckles on August 25, 2014, 07:52:30 AM
Great looking EIV, Sasho  ;)
Very nice!

vB  :)
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ssasho0 on August 27, 2014, 01:25:18 AM
Thamk you very much for the extremely nice comments :).
@bertl: I used shamelessly so many of your ideas that I just don't know w5to say :)
 The enxt updaye will be probably final

Bst regards,
Sasho
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Jamo on September 06, 2014, 04:05:40 PM
Fantastic detailing, more eye candy. Great stuff SsachoO!
Thanks for sharing
Regards from Wellington
James

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/WWI%20posters/JagdfliegerImmelmann.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/WWI%20posters/ImmelmannMeineKampffluge.jpg)
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: xmald on September 06, 2014, 04:27:49 PM
I simply love the weathering on this one. Congrats mate!
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ssasho0 on September 06, 2014, 07:59:26 PM
@ Jamo: wonderfull posters again :) I have no idea where do you dig those things out, but please, keep them coming> I'm sure most of us really enjoy looking at them :)
@xmald: thanks mate, it is a learning experience for me and I'm trying to improve

Best regards,
Sasho
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ssasho0 on September 11, 2014, 03:55:40 AM
Micro update, showing the first try for carving a Garuda propeller. The attemt was unssucesfull, but I hope that with the next try I will get a more satisfying result. The new lamination is already prepared :)

Regards,
Sasho

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/Fokekr%20EIV/SAM_3142_zps64ac82a7.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/Fokekr%20EIV/SAM_3141_zps5bdabadf.jpg)

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Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: mgunns on September 11, 2014, 04:22:25 AM
Hello Ssashoo:

It looks like you are on the right track!  Looks good.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: BigBlue on September 11, 2014, 06:50:06 AM
If that Garuda is a reject, I can't wait to see the acceptable version!  Would you mind sharing some details about your laminate materials?

This is a lovely build Sasho.

Chris
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: lcarroll on September 11, 2014, 09:39:15 AM
Sasho,
   My first attempt (and several more!) ended in failure as well, and Garudas, like Niendorf's, are a little trickier then some of the less curved ones such as the Axials. Looks like you are already skilled at this but if it helps I've got a Tutorial in "Hints and Tips" on how I do mine. What sort of veneers did you use for this one? Oh, and the Eindecker is spectacular!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: uncletony on September 11, 2014, 03:58:28 PM
Darn good try, and if first you don't succeed try try again as they say... I suspect you will be a master of this in no time...
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ssasho0 on September 11, 2014, 04:59:31 PM

@Bo and Mcgunnis: thank  you guys for the comments
@Bigblue: I enjoy your Eindecker build also :). I am using vaneer, the light one is Beech or at least the guy at the shop told me so. The dark one was given to me by a fellow modeller, together with another lighter shade. He didn't know what kind of timber was used for them, but looking at it, I think that it is possible to be a Peаr. I cut some stripes with appropriate dimensions of the 2 types of vaneer and glued them together with with glue for wood. I constricted (is this the right word?) them overnight between two solid wooden blocks, locked with tongs. On the next day I just started sanding with my dremel. By the way, I found that using Beech makes the whole thing way sturdier and a bit harder to work with. The Beech is just too stout, but actually this is a good thing in the end as the final result just loooks better than what I was using before fo rhe light laminations (maybe ash tree)
@Icecarroll: I know your tutorial by heart already :), it was THE thing, that gave me the confidence to try carving a propeller for my Roland some time ago. Now, I'm going for the same thing again with this build. Yeah probably simplified and modified it a bot so it works for me.
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: jknaus on September 12, 2014, 01:29:27 AM
You guys with your hand made props. Just amazing work. Watching with interest.
James
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Ssasho0 on October 21, 2014, 12:54:23 AM
Not ready yet, around 99% at the moment so I am damn close :)

Just few pics of the a/c


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Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: radio on October 21, 2014, 04:06:20 AM
You make a stunning build. ;D
Martin
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on October 21, 2014, 08:45:43 AM
Another Lovely build from your talented hands!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: BigBlue on October 21, 2014, 10:11:00 AM
Looks great Sasho!  Your build continues to inspire me.

Chris
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: eindecker on October 21, 2014, 02:58:44 PM
As you may note from my forum name, Eindeckers are probably my favorite aircraft. Yours is exceptionally well done and I especially like the staining, fading and oily gunk you managed on the fuselage and wings. Very artistic.
I now have the Eindecker IV on my short list.
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: Nigel Jackson on October 21, 2014, 03:33:25 PM
So nearly there Ssasho0 and such an accomplished build. Well done!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Max Immelman's Fokker EIV - 1:32
Post by: stefanbuss on October 21, 2014, 04:41:33 PM
Very very impressive weathering on the airframe. I hope you can provide some detail shots to admire.

Stefan