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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Pete Nottingham on July 24, 2013, 08:02:34 PM
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Ok guys, I've returned, I feel the need to get started modelling again.
A new project to renew the interest, the Roland is placed on the back burner for a while, but it will get finished eventually.
A WNW Albatros DV with the colours of Fritz Oppenhorst who served with Jasta 5 from December 1917 until August 1918, one small question as to whether the Albie would be fitted with a Mercedes DIII or a DIIIa engine, I'm tempted to go with the DIIIa but I'm open to suggestions on this.
The Kit.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/brodiedog/Fritz%20Oppenhorst/dv01_zps2e2e686c.jpg)
The Colour Scheme.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/brodiedog/Fritz%20Oppenhorst/Untitled-1_zpsd4dd2706.jpg)
Some Additional Parts.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/brodiedog/Fritz%20Oppenhorst/WWA32005_zpscd1e4476.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/brodiedog/Fritz%20Oppenhorst/WWA32004_zps591d5db3.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/brodiedog/Fritz%20Oppenhorst/WWA32003_zps05a8216e.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/brodiedog/Fritz%20Oppenhorst/spandaus_zps6e333895.jpg)
Cheers.
Pete.
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Nice. Wood&Wire upgrades?
Yes, since all the trouble with Tigermodels exhausts and they then finally went out of business, but fortunately Wood and Wire (Old Propeller) do the same exhaust, so hopefully there won't be any trouble getting hold of these.
Cheers
Pete.
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You have chosen a lovely scheme to go with a lovely kit! The aftermarket parts will certainly enhance your model! I am looking forward to your progress!
RAGIII
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Nice to see you back behind the wheel, Pete!
Nice livery - I will be keeping two eyes fixed on your progress. Good luck!
Von Buckle
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Thanks guys,
Don't look too closely von B.
Cheers
Pete.
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Hi Pete,
very nice choice, Albatros is very nice aircraf. Do it wanted accessories for motor from Taurus, safety belts HGW and it will be a perfect model.
Cheers,
Vladimir
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Good to see you starting another Thread, Pete, and especially on one of my favorite subjects. I just completed an order with Old Propeller/Nordland yesterday and seriously considered the seat and engine bits; I'm looking forward to your comments on them and to following your Build.
Cheers,
Lance
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What a stunning scheme you've chosen, Pete! With all the added goodies, this one will be a real show stopper.
Cheers,
Bud
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My D.V waits on the shelf, perhaps mobilize watching your workshop :D
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Never enough Albatrossen for me, looking forwards to this build
Keith
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Thanks guys,
I'm going to try one or two different techniques on this build, lets hope they turn out ok.
Cheers
Pete.
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Great to hear you are starting another build, Pete.
I have one of these Alby's in the wings and will
enjoy seeing your progress.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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First update of the build, not much to show, preparing the bulkheads for some paint.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/brodiedog/Fritz%20Oppenhorst/fo01_zps6fae4de5.jpg)
Cheers
Pete
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Hi pete,
good start, but I would rather all parts sanded, glued edges for Tamiya tape. Then he started to spray paint.
Cheers,
Vladimir
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Hi pete,
good start, but I would rather all parts sanded, glued edges for Tamiya tape. Then he started to spray paint.
Cheers,
Vladimir
Hi Vladimir;
Having built several DV's and DVa's, I find it better to paint first, then sand the edges to make sure the bulkheads fit in the slots of the fusilage sides OK as they are a very precise fit.
Cheers
Pete.
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Hi Pete,
I have to admit that all of my WNW models rest in boxes. The year is going to build the Albatros, but no time.
Cheers,
Vladimir
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Hi Pete,
I have to admit that all of my WNW models rest in boxes. The year is going to build the Albatros, but no time.
Cheers,
Vladimir
Hi Vladimir;
Try to get an Albatros built, they are a great kit, but you have to be very precise with the bulkheads or you find that the fusilage sides won't fit properly which means lots of filler, but if you get the bulkheads precise you don't need any filler at all.
Cheers
Pete.
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Hi Pete,
I have to admit that all of my WNW models rest in boxes. The year is going to build the Albatros, but no time.
Cheers,
Vladimir
Hi Vladimir;
Try to get an Albatros built, they are a great kit, but you have to be very precise with the bulkheads or you find that the fusilage sides won't fit properly which means lots of filler, but if you get the bulkheads precise you don't need any filler at all.
Cheers
Pete.
I'll add the same caution Vladimir; the edges of the bulkheads and the slots in the fuselage that they go into are critical, any paint at all and the fuselage won't close. I spent hours cleaning them up as a result of sloppy masking of the slots, a real challenge getting layers of wood grain and clear yellow out of them. Beautifully done Kit though, and a fun build. Looking forward to following your progress.
Cheers,
Lance
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good luck with the build Pete :)
michael
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Thanks Michael.
Cheers
Pete.
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Wood and Wire parts arrived today from the Czech Republic, many thanks Vladimir, they look very good indeed, I would definitely recommend them.
Cheers
Pete.
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The crossmembers have been painted with Vallejo Model Air Sand and I've tried to put the grain on with a darker Vallejo Old Wood using the RB woodgrain PE stencils, I'll now apply an oil glaze.
The inside fusilage sides have been painted with Vallejo Model Air Sand.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/brodiedog/Fritz%20Oppenhorst/fo02_zps1a066d79.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/brodiedog/Fritz%20Oppenhorst/fo03_zps4b06ee91.jpg)
Cheers
Pete.
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Pete,
Man am I ever looking forward to following this latest project of yours. Outstanding first progress too. I'm interested in the RB woodgrain stencils. Will they conform to the curve of the interior and exterior fuselage without much problem? Are the stencils easier to use rather than the standard method? Best of luck to you with this new project and all other matters.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Hi Gregory,
The stencils seem very flexible, however I don't think they will bend to very tight curves without damaging them, I will see how they work out.
A close up of one of the crossmembers.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/brodiedog/Fritz%20Oppenhorst/DSC01059_zps162668cf.jpg)
Cheers
Pete.
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Looks good! I am looking forward to the rest of your build.
RAGIII
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Thanks RAGIII
Cheers
Pete.
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A quick question guys, does anybody know where I can get any decals for the 4 figure white ref. no. that goes round the front of no. 1 cylinder?
Cheers
Pete.
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Good start, Pete and thanks for the update! I really like the
woodgrain on the bulkheads. Nicely done. :) Until next update.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Another update, coming along slowly but steadily.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/brodiedog/Fritz%20Oppenhorst/fo04_zps30bdde45.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/brodiedog/Fritz%20Oppenhorst/fo05_zps8d9db9b6.jpg)
Cheers
Pete.
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Albatrosses are my favorite aircraft of WWI. In my future plans I'm going to build this model in 1:32 scale.
I'll be watching.
Adam.
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Hi Adam;
The WNW Albie is a great model to build, apart from being very careful with the precise fit of the bulkheads, there are no real problems with it.
Cheers
Pete.
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Hi Pete, im new here so just read this through from the start.
I love the Albatros and the scheme you have chosen is just gorgeous, will be watching this one all the way with great interest.
Off to a great start and looking forward to plenty more.
Regards,
Martin.
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Thanks Martin.
Cheers
Pete.
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Excellent start Pete, I'm really looking forward to see what you do with this build, it is a great kit and in your hands you will turn it into a beautiful gem.
Des.
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Your woodgrain treatment is really great Pete. I'm wondering in the fuselage
pictures, the grey strips...are they to be painted or something to keep paint
out of the former slots. I haven't dealt with WnW's close tolerances yet, but from
what I've read we really don't have much leeway. Looking forward to your next
update.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Hi Ernie;
The grey strips are the slots that the bulkheads fit in to, as the fit is so precise I put some liquid mask in to the slots, painted the interior of the fusilage then cleaned the masking out of the slots, this then leaves the slots as bare grey plastic ready for the bulkheads to be fitted.
Cheers
Pete
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The grey strips are the slots that the bulkheads fit in to, as the fit is so precise I put some liquid mask in to the slots, painted the interior of the fusilage then cleaned the masking out of the slots, this then leaves the slots as bare grey plastic ready for the bulkheads to be fitted.
Cheers
Pete
Thanks for the explanation, Pete. That's a good idea about the liquid mask. I will certainly file that
away for future use!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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A quick question guys, does anybody know where I can get any decals for the 4 figure white ref. no. that goes round the front of no. 1 cylinder?
Hi Pete:
The decal sheet for the Pfalz DXII has several of the numbers you are looking for. You could probably order the sheet from WNW. Check out my Pfalz DXII build in the built section.
It may have been on the Hannover sheet now that I think about it. If you scope out the decals for the kits on the WNW web site you should be able see which sheet they are one and order it.
Best
Mark
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You're off to a nice start Pete!
You missed snipping off the little buggers on the upper left side of the cockpit opening, I noticed because I made the same mistake :)
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A quick question guys, does anybody know where I can get any decals for the 4 figure white ref. no. that goes round the front of no. 1 cylinder?
Spares from a Pfalz D.XII sheet? But check your references, the white numbers are kind of a D.IIIaü thing. You can find examples of earlier engines so marked, but the style seems different.
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You missed snipping off the little buggers on the upper left side of the cockpit opening, I noticed because I made the same mistake :)
Hi Bo;
Which little buggers are you refering to?
Thanks for the eng ref numbers info.
Cheers
Pete.
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You missed snipping off the little buggers on the upper left side of the cockpit opening, I noticed because I made the same mistake :)
Hi Bo;
Which little buggers are you refering to?
Thanks for the eng ref numbers info.
Cheers
Pete.
page 11 of the manual... not sure what the bumps are for... they aren't used on the D.Va kit either. Maybe supposed to be a lug for mounting an accessory altimeter in the yet-to-be-seen deluxe version?...
(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh640/UncleTony1917/ScreenShot2013-08-20at122412PM_zps339f11d9.png)
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Oh! them little buggers, damn I forgot them, I will soon remove them, many thanks.
Cheers
Pete.
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Pete, sorry late to the party but do you have a serial number for this machine? Or, failing that, a date when it was taken on? That might help you sort out which motor to build. D.IIIa's seemed to have been fitted to the last batch or so. Somewhere there is a table (WS Albatros Fighters maybe? -- I'll have to dig or Keith knows :) ) Otherwise D.III would be likely. D.Vs from the last batches were arriving at staffels in late fall (oct/nov?) 1917.
Cheers
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DV motors = minefield. ;D
IMHO without any other reference I'd be tempted to go for the 160 with upright airpump at the front. Likelyhood it arrived in the same batch with Rumeys & others that seem to sport the 160.
I've got similar issues with my D.V which I'm building(stalled) von Schliech's DV as to whether it had a forward mounted air pump or not. At least I knw this has a 160 of one sort or another.
Keith
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Pete, sorry late to the party but do you have a serial number for this machine? Or, failing that, a date when it was taken on? That might help you sort out which motor to build. D.IIIa's seemed to have been fitted to the last batch or so. Somewhere there is a table (WS Albatros Fighters maybe? -- I'll have to dig or Keith knows :) ) Otherwise D.III would be likely. D.Vs from the last batches were arriving at staffels in late fall (oct/nov?) 1917.
Cheers
Hi Bo and Keith;
According to Rowans ref material, Fritz Oppenhorst was with Jasta 5 from Dec 1917 until Aug 1918, so it is possible that he could have had the DIIIa motor fitted. Although it seems that details of the aircrafts specific equipment are unknown.
Cheers
Pete.
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According to Rowans ref material, Fritz Oppenhorst was with Jasta 5 from Dec 1917 until Aug 1918, so it is possible that he could have had the DIIIa motor fitted. Although it seems that details of the aircrafts specific equipment are unknown.
In that case the D.IIIa motor is plausible at the very least. Go for it!
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According to Rowans ref material, Fritz Oppenhorst was with Jasta 5 from Dec 1917 until Aug 1918, so it is possible that he could have had the DIIIa motor fitted. Although it seems that details of the aircrafts specific equipment are unknown.
In that case the D.IIIa motor is plausible at the very least. Go for it!
In fact I'd opted for the DIIIa from the beginning Bo, but I won't be putting a Ref no on the no 1 cylinder.
Cheers
Pete.
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Next stage, installing the seat in to the cockpit bulkheads, some sanding was required as the Wood & Wire seat doesn't have a cut out to accept the base unit which fits across the side bearers.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/brodiedog/Fritz%20Oppenhorst/fo06_zps4ac781b3.jpg)
Cheers
Pete.
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Hi Pete,
nice wood and progress.
Cheers,
Vladimir
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Thanks Vladimir.
Cheers
Pete.
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Pete,
Excellent wood work on the formers. Looking forward to your progress!
RAGIII
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Pete,
Outstanding progress my old friend. Great wood graining on her framework too.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Also a big fan of Airplane,but that's not important right now.
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Thanks guys.
Cheers
Pete.