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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Completed models => Topic started by: DaddyO on July 05, 2025, 04:27:11 AM
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Bit of disaster getting some models out for the show on Sunday :'(
Glass shelf collapsed onto the shelf of models below. A few minor damaged models which I'll get round to repairing, but sadly this lot bore the brunt of the impact and are probably for the scrap heap (or at least in need of major rebuilds) Represent about 12 months worth of modelling . . . .
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And the other couple
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Couple of figures on the Jasta diorama were damaged and the odd wheel on a couple of others which can be repaired with a bit of care, but sadly these are looking the worse for wear
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That is a catastrophe without a doubt - a modellers nightmare. I do hope that you can restore at least a couple of them.
I also have glass shelves but I have made sure that they are stable - and now I know why!!
Stephen.
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That is a catastrophe without a doubt - a modellers nightmare. I do hope that you can restore at least a couple of them.
I also have glass shelves but I have made sure that they are stable - and now I know why!!
Stephen.
Cheers Stephen, These things happen ( I dropped a box of packed figures at a show many years ago causing some damage that was repairable) This little lot sadly will take some effort. As you say a couple should be repairable without the damage being visible, others are likely to be broken up for parts or re-built in other ways (I'm thinking the LVG is going to end up in a minor crash diorama . . . maybe) ???
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Noooooo! That stinks! And it seems neither puppies or kittens were involved. Small consolation might be that even broken they still look pretty amazing.
Warren Q
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Noooooo! That stinks! And it seems neither puppies or kittens were involved. Small consolation might be that even broken they still look pretty amazing.
Warren Q
:D thanks Warren.
(Puppies and kittens definitely banned from the workroom, although I am wondering why) Still the sun will keep shining and they've given a lot of pleasure even if they can't be repaired (and I think a couple can without it showing)
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As you say Paul, these things happen.
The V.23 looks repairable and it's the rarest of them, and a scrach build if I remember correctly...
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Don't scrap them! If they cannot be repaired one of two things could be done. A crash schene diorama or alternatively a post armistice scene whereby aircraft were piled up in a field. I saw an archive picture of this, it was in Italy or the former AHE and the aircraft piled up were war reparations to Italy. There must have been similar pictures elsewhere of both aircraft and equipment if googled.
Alan.
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As you say Paul, these things happen.
The V.23 looks repairable and it's the rarest of them, and a scrach build if I remember correctly...
Cheers matey
Yep the V23 was a scratchbuit. Undercarriage is brass and can be straightened out with wheels being drilled out and brass axle fitted. Wing should bend back into position and hopefully won't need too much touching up. I've started with the Floh which has similar damage; once that's done I'll tackle the V23. :D
Don't scrap them! If they cannot be repaired one of two things could be done. A crash schene diorama or alternatively a post armistice scene whereby aircraft were piled up in a field. I saw an archive picture of this, it was in Italy or the former AHE and the aircraft piled up were war reparations to Italy. There must have been similar pictures elsewhere of both aircraft and equipment if googled.
Alan.
Good idea Alan (When say scrap I'm thinking more of complete rebuilds rather than break up for pieces)
I'll start with the two simple repairs and then look at the Albie and Pfalz. Suspect both will need top wing/rigging removed so these may give the opportunity to give them a repaint in different schemes :-\ (I was rooting through various books this morning to see how much extra work would be involved)
The LVG and DR1 took most of the impact. The Dr1 is the first model I built and all the plastic struts need replacing (I've got some spares) - time for a new scheme on this one methinks ;) The LVG is a tricky one, but liek you I'm thinking a rebuild into a landing 'crash' will work. I'll sort the others out first and then take a closer look
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How shockingly devastating for you, Paul! What a mess to have to deal with. A terrible event in the life of a modeller (and it's happened to me a few years ago in a smaller way but luckily nothing was un-fixable). Good luck with your repairs!
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How shockingly devastating for you, Paul! What a mess to have to deal with. A terrible event in the life of a modeller (and it's happened to me a few years ago in a smaller way but luckily nothing was un-fixable). Good luck with your repairs!
Cheers Gary
An opportunity for some different schemes on the Albie and Pfalz maybe . . . :-\
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OMG!! I go away for a few days and this happens! You clearly cannot be left without adult supervision......
Seriously, what a disaster. I'm gutted for you. I hope it doesn't dent your mojo too much......
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OMG!! I go away for a few days and this happens! You clearly cannot be left without adult supervision......
Seriously, what a disaster. I'm gutted for you. I hope it doesn't dent your mojo too much......
Sadly not safe to be left alone for 5 minutes ;D
Sh*t happens, as they say, matey. I'll get the easy ones repaired first and then back onto the Tripe because I'd really like that one off my workbench (None of the allied aircraft were damaged so should be okay for the upcoming show)
Per aspera ad astra
Paul
ps - First job was actually fixing teh shelf supports which has now been sorted pretty thoroughly ;)
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Oh my, I am so sorry... Try to save as many as it can be. Good luck!
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Oh my, I am so sorry... Try to save as many as it can be. Good luck!
Thanks Prze
I'm pretty sure they'll all reappear in some form or another, but some are a little more involved so may need top wings removing, complete re-rig etc. I'll add pics to the repaired versions to this thread as they are (re)done
Paul
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I feel your pain. The same thing happened to me after returning from vacation. I got rid of the cabinet and purchased a new one. Repaired all of them but still need to repair rigging on the Ago C.IV. A chance to practice my repair skills.
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I've actually had this very same accident happen to me twice over the years so really feel your pain .........
Regards
Dave
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I'm so sorry to hear about the shelf collapse! What terrible luck. Your models are beautiful - I have a couple of questions about them: what's the background on the Albatros D.V with the Star of David on the side? Do you know which Jasta it was from? And the Hannover CL.II -- what's your source material for this bare plywood machine (a great subject for a modeler!).
Best wishes,
Jason
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I feel your pain. The same thing happened to me after returning from vacation. I got rid of the cabinet and purchased a new one. Repaired all of them but still need to repair rigging on the Ago C.IV. A chance to practice my repair skills.
Cheers RVP :)
Shelf supports are now fixed in this cabinet and repairs have started . . .
I've actually had this very same accident happen to me twice over the years so really feel your pain .........
Regards
Dave
Thanks Dave, appreciate it although good chance to practice my repair skills I'd rather be building something new if I'm honest ;)
I'm so sorry to hear about the shelf collapse! What terrible luck. Your models are beautiful - I have a couple of questions about them: what's the background on the Albatros D.V with the Star of David on the side? Do you know which Jasta it was from? And the Hannover CL.II -- what's your source material for this bare plywood machine (a great subject for a modeler!).
Best wishes,
Jason
Appreciate it Jason, but soon have them back looking spic and span again . . . 8)
The DV is from Jasta 12. Pilot's name is as yet unconfirmed. There was a Micro scale decal sheet with this aircraft on it in a slightly later guise with a black tail and nose, but I found a picture of what looks like the same aircraft on the internet whilst trawling for schemes in which the tail has not yet been painted and, since I wanted to practice my painted wood effects, I decided on this slightly different version. There were several german aircraft that used the same star which crop up from time to time (I'm sure others will chip in with the pilots names)
The 'Hannover' is actually an LVG VI which probably explains the confusion about the scheme (lots of these with bare wood fuselages)
Good news is the repairs have started and the Floh is now sitting pretty again.
Using brass for the struts is a real bonus since the undercarriage was easily straightened and repainted with a new axle replacing the old one (now with added bungee cords) ;) . The port wing struts also had a slight kink which was straightened and retouched in situ without affecting the rigging and the tail skid needed a tweak with pliers to get it back to the correct shape. Only the undercarriage wires needed replacing ;D
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The other one I've started to repair is the old DR1 (my first model) Every strut was broken or bent and needed replacing along with the undercarriage, so this one is in for a full refit and will appear is a slightly different guise sometime soon
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Hello Paul,
Thanks for your reply on the color schemes -- if you've got digital photo of the Jasta 32 Albatros D.V, I'd be grateful if you sent it....right, I see now that the two-seater is an LVG, not a Hannover -- my error! Great paint jobs all around -- very realistic and convincing.
Good luck with the restoration project,
Best wishes,
Jason
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I admire how well you seem to have picked up the pieces (in more ways than one :)) and tackled with the rebuild. It must have been a really shocking thing to happen. I once dropped a pusher (DH2) accidentally a short while before it was finished and it was bad enough. Stay strong!
Cheers, Skyhook
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Hello Paul,
Thanks for your reply on the color schemes -- if you've got digital photo of the Jasta 32 Albatros D.V, I'd be grateful if you sent it....right, I see now that the two-seater is an LVG, not a Hannover -- my error! Great paint jobs all around -- very realistic and convincing.
Good luck with the restoration project,
Best wishes,
Jason
Hi Jason it's a Jasta 12 aircraft 8) (I've had a look and have deleted the original pic, but have printed a copy off somewhere which I'll see if I can find. The later version is easily available with a quick search)
I admire how well you seem to have picked up the pieces (in more ways than one :)) and tackled with the rebuild. It must have been a really shocking thing to happen. I once dropped a pusher (DH2) accidentally a short while before it was finished and it was bad enough. Stay strong!
Cheers, Skyhook
Cheers Matey - onwards and upwards as they say (Reminds me I really must get round to a DH2, which I'll try not to drop . . . ) :o
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Good to see progress being made here. I'm not sure I could summon the mojo to repair so much damage, so good on you!
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Really pleased to see salvaging under way and good luck with it. Perhaps some of the models will be evn better as a result - at least that is some consolation.
PS if you do not have at least one pusher in your collection, then it is incomplete....!
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Good to see progress being made here. I'm not sure I could summon the mojo to repair so much damage, so good on you!
Thanks Nigel (Be nice to get back to the Tripe, but these are bugging me) ;D
Really pleased to see salvaging under way and good luck with it. Perhaps some of the models will be evn better as a result - at least that is some consolation.
PS if you do not have at least one pusher in your collection, then it is incomplete....!
Cheers matey.
Plan is for a couple to be updated slightly whilst they're being done so the DR1 has newer thinned wing ties, scope on the Spandaus and I'll add a hatch under the nose (especially for Nigel) ;)
Definitely feel guilty about the lack of pushers at present, but will be rectified soon - promise
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Power was off all day today so managed to get a sneaky few extra hours in on the workbench :)
The V23 is all sitting pretty again
Straightforward repair needing the brass undercarriage removing, straightening and new axleadding for the wheels, the left wing was eased back into position and glued again; fuselage was slightly split, but thanks to the wonders of thin superglue you can barely tell 8) Couple of other tiny details repaired and it's nearly as good as new
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A couple of extra details have been added to the DR1 along with a change of colour scheme including a scope from three pieces of stretched sprue and some wire and the underbelly hatch from 5 though card with stretched sprue again being used for the hinge and rivets
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Good to see things progressing here. And those tiny details! Too small for my shaky hands.....
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Man alive, that's rough.
I'm glad to see you're working through the snap, crackles and pops.
Keep going!
BB
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I agree with Nigel - that is some very tiny extra detail being added to the Dr 1. Good to see the V23 is repaired.
Stephen.
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Thanks gents ;D
At a show today so didn't get time to finish all the little jobs on the damaged triplane, but did get a little bit done when I go home so it now has three wings again! Will post a couple of pics of the new scheme when it's sorted later this week
Paul
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Bravo Paul! It's great to see you tackling these repairs so well and so quickly.
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Bravo Paul! It's great to see you tackling these repairs so well and so quickly.
Cheers Zac ;D
Finding the time to get any modelling done is a struggle at the moment (We've all been there), but eventually got around to sorting this one out :P
It's the third model rebuilt after the great glass shelf disaster. Because this one was pretty much a full rebuild I decided to change the scheme (Sorry Nigel, you'll now need a new label) ;).
It's now a model of Hans Besser's aircraft (Jasta 12) In photo's at their airfield in Mesnil these show them to be rather war weary (The white cowls appearing a dirty matt grey is some pictures) Unsurprising really since some were probably cast offs from Staffeln 13 & 19 when they upgraded and they were still in service in mid June 1918 in spite of problems with poor quality oil and well worn engines.
Just spotted in a close up photo that I still need to add a rear view mirror and Morell airspeed indicator on the wing strut, but for the moment it's back in the cabinet. Markings from the spares box or cut from decal sheet and the streaking is done using acrylic paint.
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Nice repair job and a good choice of scheme, a bit different. The streaking turned out really well.
Not allowed on the SIG table until it has a rear view mirror and airspeed indicator though..... ;) ;D
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Nice repair job and a good choice of scheme, a bit different. The streaking turned out really well.
Not allowed on the SIG table until it has a rear view mirror and airspeed indicator though..... ;) ;D
Cheers Nigel (Only realised that I had a set of Pheon decals for this one after I'd finished it) ::)
Will make sure I've added the extra details before bringing it out in public ;) ;D
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Well done on yet another repair, and a nice choice of markings. She certainly has the war weary look! Great stuff!
Cheers,
BC
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Well done on yet another repair, and a nice choice of markings. She certainly has the war weary look! Great stuff!
Cheers,
BC
Thanks Brad ;D
Now where's that Albatros box . . . .
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Good work Paul! It was wise to begin with the relatively easy ones.
The V.23 and Floh looked simple enough to fix, the Dr.I is looking great in its new markings.
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Super restoration.I bet you think that perhaps the great glass shelf disaster may have had a silver lining after all.
Stephen.
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Good work Paul! It was wise to begin with the relatively easy ones.
The V.23 and Floh looked simple enough to fix, the Dr.I is looking great in its new markings.
Thanks enathan ;D
The last three are tricky, but for the moment I've decided to press on with some new stuff and other projects that have been hanging about. Will revisit the repair shop when I've regained a bit of mojo for them 8)
Super restoration.I bet you think that perhaps the great glass shelf disaster may have had a silver lining after all.
Stephen.
Cheers Stephen.
It's certainly a way of learning some new skills (although I wouldn't recommend it) ;) Quite like how this one turned out in the end; who knows there may be another one or two on the horizon (A mate from the club display joked that I will have built more Dr1's than there were originally . . . )