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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: gedmundson on July 26, 2023, 07:42:50 AM

Title: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: gedmundson on July 26, 2023, 07:42:50 AM
After picking up the kit of Max Immelmann's Fokker E.II during the last rash of available Wingnut Wings hit the hobby shops, I broke open the bag containing the resin figure to examine the quality of the casting. I did paint it up and posted it here: https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=13929.0

Realizing I'd basically started the model by opening the package, I decided to put it on the bench and work on it alongside of finishing my recent E.IV model.

I did notice a different in the quality of the parts with this later stamping compared to earlier releases I have of the Eindecker models. More flash, and some small parts weren't properly formed - more later.

So here are a few photos of the work on the propeller, which I usually start with. The propellers were fairly dark on these aircraft, but there was definitely evidence of lamination on the Germania propellers. To mimic this I base coated the part in a Tamiya acrylic tan colour, masked it and sprayed on a darker shade. After a gloss coat, I added/touched up the curved lines with Vallejo acrylic mixed to match, then added a diluted oil paint to stain it darker and add a wood grain look. It took a couple of oil paint applications before I was pleased with the dark colour.

Cheers,
Gary

(https://i.imgur.com/zjQUIm9.jpg)
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Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: pepperman42 on July 26, 2023, 07:54:17 AM
Nice start. Very curious about the quality difference...

Steve
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: KiwiZac on July 26, 2023, 02:44:43 PM
That prop is gorgeous Gary, I'll need to try that method for myself.
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: Edo on July 26, 2023, 03:04:48 PM
the prop is super!
now waiting for the rest...
can’t wailt!

ciao
edo
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: gedmundson on July 27, 2023, 12:35:50 AM
Nice start. Very curious about the quality difference...

Steve

Well, Steve - one of the legs for the seat didn't quite make it properly in the molding process and I had to add one using styrene rod. Also the small spent-cartridge deflector had not been formed properly, so luckily there was a spare part A15 from my previous E.IV kit. And there's more flash on this one than the same sprues from my E.IV kit.

The engine was airbrushed Flat Black, and as with the previous build I added a metallic look using Uschi metal polishing powder Steel type. For the ignition wires I used Mike Norris' methos of EZ-Line, which works great. As can be seen in the photos...one of the lines was knocked off, so that was repaired just now.
Cheers,
Gary

 (https://i.imgur.com/8THHyCg.jpg)
repaired seat

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Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: Dutch522 on July 27, 2023, 03:56:46 AM
Absolutely beautiful work. That prop is a work of art in itself!

Dave V.
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: KiwiZac on July 27, 2023, 07:48:52 AM
Outstanding start Gary! Inspirational and aspirational.
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: RichieW on July 27, 2023, 08:22:44 AM
Terrific start Gary with you customary magical painting skills!

I found the top of the fuselage halves on this kit bowed downwards on mine and needed a lot of work to get the top level.

Richie
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: Tim Mixon on July 27, 2023, 10:24:03 AM
Beautiful work Gary.  Always a pleasure to see your work. 
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: pepperman42 on July 28, 2023, 04:24:02 AM
Engine colours are spot on. Love the variations that give each part a distinctive look.

Steve
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: gedmundson on July 28, 2023, 05:01:10 AM

I found the top of the fuselage halves on this kit bowed downwards on mine and needed a lot of work to get the top level.

Richie

This is the case with all three models I've tackled so far, Richie. At least for this one I took a bit more time to try and align the spine when setting the glue.

Work on the cockpit included adding a seat harness from HGW and a few switch handles from the ANYZ 3D printed parts. I enhanced the pulsimeter with a clear reservoir on top, and also added a copper wire for the impulse line to the gage on the panel. The interior rigging is EZ-Line with 1/48 Gaspatch resin turnbuckles.

Cheers,
Gary

(https://i.imgur.com/ytopWzb.jpg)

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Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: KiwiZac on July 28, 2023, 07:36:43 AM
I'm lost for words. This is inspirational and aspirational, and to an exquisite level of detail. I'm rather enjoying this and the Eindecker purchase itch is getting harder to avoid scratching!
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: kensar on July 29, 2023, 04:44:45 AM
Nice start on this, Gary.  I actually didn't realize you started another Fokker E type.
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: RAGIII on July 30, 2023, 05:06:50 AM
OK, Prop, Seat, Belts and seat installation , Turned Metal and IP are all absolutely Fantastic! I hope I didn't miss something to praise  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: AngryJazz on August 01, 2023, 09:17:57 PM
Inspiring work! Taking notes and enjoying the build  :)
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: gedmundson on August 02, 2023, 04:26:09 AM
Zac, Ken, Rick and  Ben - thanks so much!

The fuselage was given a pre-shaded of the framework before applying the base colour. I tried a couple of different things with this build, with doing the squiggle pattern for the aluminium cowls in a more jagged pattern to match how I interpreted the photos of the real one. I also carved out the part below the floor of the cockpit to show more wood and added a couple of rigging lines, as per a period photo and also confirmed by James Fahey's photos of the TVAL Eindecker recently posted in the Forum.

(https://i.imgur.com/JnPfWZb.jpg)

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Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: RichieW on August 02, 2023, 08:20:26 AM
I really like your more jagged turned metal cowling Gary. It looks very convincing.
I was cannibalising my scrapped kit today and couldn't help noticing how superbly molded the wings are. I needed a thin but rigid pieces of plastic and the rudder was a perfect source. It made me feel a bit misty eyed!

Richie
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: gedmundson on August 05, 2023, 02:25:26 AM
When I put in an order to Copper State Models for their nicely detailed 3D printed resin aircraft wheels, I bought a set of 610X85 said to be for the Eindecker series. In retrospect I needn't have bothered since photos of aircraft in service rarely had their fabric covers off. One thing you do see many photos of are Eindeckers with their over-size transport spoked wheels on.

The set I received from CSM were slightly flawed in their print-out, but certainly not noticeable at first glance. So I decided to paint them up and photograph the model with them on before installing the covered wheels from the kit for my final display. A clumsy mistake while handling the model had one of the wheels slip off the axel and hit the tiled floor. Hopefully it survived....but no. Seven of the spokes were damaged. Rather than forget the whole exercise I attempted to fix the spokes by cementing in sections of fine copper wire. Painted up, and with plenty of squinting it worked not too badly.

I've also included a couple of photos here of rigging in progress. And the control cables for the tail need to go on BEFORE the tail skid is installed.

Cheers,
Gary

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Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: KiwiZac on August 05, 2023, 07:22:04 AM
It's nice to see the CSM wheels but I'm sorry to read of your accident! Good save.

The rigging (and woodgrain on the tailskid) is looking fantastic. A great lesson for those of us with an Eindecker in their future.
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: Europapete on August 05, 2023, 11:18:06 PM
Good Morning all, Fantastic work here Gary, well done.  Looking at Jamo's photo's, I was noticing how the rig lines attatched to the wings and thinking that Gaspatch's Albatros-style buckles with the ball on one end would work rather nicely.  I haven't looked at period photo's yet though to compare. Regards, Pete in RI
Hi Zac!
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: KiwiZac on August 06, 2023, 05:01:40 PM
Hey Pete!!
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: RichieW on August 06, 2023, 08:16:11 PM
Good save on the wheel spokes Gary. Tiled floor means no carpet monster to devour stray small parts but the downside seems to be the occasional broken spoke. The fix is really neat though.

Richie
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: kensar on August 06, 2023, 11:49:07 PM
I still like the spoked wheels more than the covered ones.
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: gedmundson on August 07, 2023, 12:02:37 AM
I still like the spoked wheels more than the covered ones.

Well here you go Ken (I try to strive for how it looked in the period photos ;) ) Hopefully some pics soon in the finished section.
Cheers,
Gary

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Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: kensar on August 07, 2023, 12:04:48 AM
Nothing wrong with that!
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: Lou N on August 07, 2023, 12:49:21 AM
Gary,

Awesome build; if I may what paint are you using for the brass details? I have some Testors brass in the square bottle, but it's not giving me a very convincing effect.

Thanks,
Lou
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: gedmundson on August 07, 2023, 02:50:14 AM
Gary,

Awesome build; if I may what paint are you using for the brass details? I have some Testors brass in the square bottle, but it's not giving me a very convincing effect.

Thanks,
Lou

Hi Lou - thanks for that question - it's a very good one. I've struggled for ages with Brass coloured paints. The only one I can use with confidence is Alclad II Polished Brass, which pretty well has to be airbrushed. Any other brass paints I've tried are grainy in finish. For tiny details and touch-ups I'm using the Vallejo Brass 70.801 but like I mentioned - it's a bit grainy.

I'm in a habit now pf airbrushing on the Alclad II and then gloss coating it to protect it against handling and weathering with mineral spirits & oil paints etc. Dealing with the lacquer base is a pain, but the Alclad gives a nice, smooth finish.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: AngryJazz on August 07, 2023, 07:25:08 PM
Wow really like the look of the cowlings! Very realistic.
The whole plane just looks right  :)
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: RAGIII on August 08, 2023, 02:51:00 AM
I took a few days off and you have completed Yet Another Brilliant Model! Lovely work as Always!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: Tim Mixon on August 10, 2023, 10:23:04 PM
Gorgeous work Gary. Very inspirational!
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: gedmundson on August 12, 2023, 02:13:03 AM
Ben, Rick and Tim - thanks for your kind words. I put a few photos into the Completed Models section just now.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: WnW 1/32 Fokker E.II "Max Immelmann"
Post by: Lou N on August 14, 2023, 06:58:11 AM
Gary,

Thanks for the info on the brass paint. I'll give the brass Alclad a try. I use their chrome over black with decent results; as you say the pigments seem much finer than any of the other metallic brands. 

Regards,
Lou