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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: PrzemoL on February 24, 2023, 09:33:47 AM

Title: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on February 24, 2023, 09:33:47 AM
I cannot remember when last time I did something like this - start with a kit on the very day I got it in my hands. But this newest release from Lukgraph deserves every madness possible. Even postponing the build of CSM Caudron.
So here it is on my bench. The kit offers two decals options for L127 and L135 and the Hiero engine. However I do not like building the kit options. Thus, and also seeing the info from Windsock Datafile that L127 had the Rapp engine and learning that L135 was from the same UFAG production batch according to Keimel monograph, I decided to build L75 (it will be an easy combination of numerals available in the kit) which apparently had indeed the Hiero engine.
The work started with the 3D printed cockpit elements which are now cut from their printing trees and the surfaces cleaned from the printing layers.
Also the hull halves had the mating surfaces cleaned and small moulding faults at the cockpit headrest zone filled in preparation for final shaping and sanding. Let the fun begin!

(https://i.ibb.co/8x6YwvB/20230224-000440.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/L6VbrG6/20230224-000511.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/0Ks7G7p/20230224-000554.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/v4thJ1N/20230224-000607.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Rookie on February 25, 2023, 01:42:16 AM
I can understand why you put the Caudron temporerorly on hold. I've pictures of this Lukgraph kit and it looks like a great kit.

I'm in the front row following this build.

Willem
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RichieW on February 25, 2023, 04:34:17 AM
How exciting, a brand new kit in expert hands. I am looking forward to seeing this!

Richie
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Monty on February 25, 2023, 04:35:41 AM
I will definitely follow this build, Przemo! Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on February 26, 2023, 12:24:59 AM
Engage!! Looking forward to this.

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Borsos on February 26, 2023, 05:22:13 AM
Although the CSM Caudron doesn‘t deserve to be pushed aside  :'( I am keen on seeing you working on this one, too!
Andreas
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Dirigible-Al on February 26, 2023, 10:46:42 PM
I too am looking forward to seeing this build and I don't mind the Cauldron being put aside. I am sure you will not forget about it.
Alan.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: lone modeller on February 27, 2023, 04:30:21 AM
I am always interested in flying boats - especially when the model is eing built by a master modeller. I will certainly be following this one.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on February 27, 2023, 08:24:15 AM
Thank you for looking in and leaving kind comments.

After a busy weekend the cockpit is basically ready for closing.

(https://i.ibb.co/WpbM19H/20230226-230419.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/RpzCBwK/20230226-230357.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/C7RBFkp/20230226-230332.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/dB38FvX/20230226-231446.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/VxzcPm5/20230226-231545.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on February 27, 2023, 11:45:11 AM
Beautiful!

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Flik63J on February 27, 2023, 09:33:17 PM
Beautiful work…..I love your wood tones……and that seat!

David
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Tim Mixon on February 27, 2023, 10:28:16 PM
Off to a great start!  Wonderful job on the interior details.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: kensar on February 28, 2023, 12:04:48 AM
Excellent work there, Przemol.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Europapete on February 28, 2023, 12:09:18 AM
Just ordered this one a few days ago. Great to see and follow your build. Regards, Pete
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on February 28, 2023, 01:47:22 AM
Thank you!

The hull closed!

(https://i.ibb.co/5xS3y2b/20230227-164250.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/GPDBrp1/20230227-164301.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/sVv9Lw5/20230227-164004.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/2NgyQ5w/20230227-163944.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/qy40HLb/20230227-164156.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on February 28, 2023, 03:24:15 AM
That looks great. Tricky seam work coming up!

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Rookie on February 28, 2023, 04:57:55 AM
This is looking spectacular already Prezmo!

Willem
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on February 28, 2023, 07:38:58 AM
While the CA glue in the hull seam is setting I have cutthe elements of the engine assembly.  The engine has the intake manifolds and the water tank separate (finally!) I also decided and managed to carefully separate the carbs assembly and the water pump - all for more ease at cleaning the omnipresent 3Dprinting layers and subsequent airbrushing. Now the sanding paper will be extensively used.

(https://i.ibb.co/5KpGsSM/20230227-220001.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/WvYwckq/20230227-215841.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/TRQ22t7/20230227-215715.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/T1gsdLk/20230227-222107.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/mqbtShV/20230227-222153.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/xmRY649/20230227-222243.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: KiwiZac on February 28, 2023, 07:53:24 AM
Lovely and fast work Prze!
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Europapete on March 01, 2023, 08:58:09 AM
Hang on a sec! How did you get your kit so fast??? The rest of us are still waiting on pre-order!!!  Very nice to see the build though, lol, can't wait for the postman! Regards, Pete
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 01, 2023, 09:08:55 AM
Thanks!

Hang on a sec! How did you get your kit so fast??? The rest of us are still waiting on pre-order!!!  Very nice to see the build though, lol, can't wait for the postman! Regards, Pete

I'm sorry but it is due to me living in the vicinity of the manufacturer. A few other modellers from Poland got their copies already, too.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Europapete on March 02, 2023, 12:28:56 AM
That's awesome! Congrats and thank you for giving us all a fantastic teaser. Regards, Pete
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 02, 2023, 08:12:03 AM
The hull seam is during the second filling and sanding session. Still some work with the sand paper to be done.

(https://i.ibb.co/16b5Bxc/20230301-225539.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/71tG8cz/20230301-225522.jpg)

The engine block after the second session of removal of printing layers. Almost acceptable now...

(https://i.ibb.co/0Drkbbg/20230301-225235.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/kmscsC4/20230301-225245.jpg)

And the separated engine installations after the first session, still some work is required here.

(https://i.ibb.co/LnmYvWm/20230301-225337.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZGzcR8w/20230301-225427.jpg)

Tedious but vital...
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on March 03, 2023, 01:24:26 AM
Great update!

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Tim Mixon on March 03, 2023, 03:52:46 AM
Pure eye candy 🍭!  That is looking so nice!
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 03, 2023, 09:08:44 AM
Thanks, Steve and Tim.

That new Lukgraph's idea for the 3Dprinted struts, where you make your own inserts from the provided copper wire is very promising.

(https://i.ibb.co/QQjkbcN/20230302-233819.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/zb5v8nt/20230302-233839.jpg)

With some patience and with holes drilled in the marked spots it even allows for some dry fitting!

(https://i.ibb.co/Zd81rf6/20230302-211551.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: lone modeller on March 04, 2023, 01:55:36 AM
Super update. I do like the idea of copper wire inserts in the struts - I have to do that on my larger scale models.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 06, 2023, 02:19:39 AM
Weekend with riddles solving. First one was about the rigging of the engine support. Quite a number of lines there but I managed to make it out and drill the holes for the eyelets. Not much to show here. And I still have to decide if I use the fishing line or Uschi thread there.

Secondly, the layout of the struts supporting the stabilizer. If you try this model take care, there is a mistake in the kit instruction, the lengths for green 1 and 2 are swapped.
I did some measurements and calculations and confirmed that these 8 struts indeed come in two lengths of 27 and 35mm.
Then I added the wire inserts and drilled the holes in the stabiliser and the hull bracings to accept them.
Also, I decided to reinforce the future joint between these bracings and the hull surface using additional wire inserts.

(https://i.ibb.co/z54Y5x7/20230305-161137.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/L048d8b/20230305-161208.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZXkD294/20230305-160659.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/1XzrTsw/20230305-160648.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/vcKsrQb/20230305-111330.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/0nS5YBy/20230305-111226.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/7N4s6vq/20230305-111205.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/rFsGbc0/20230305-111500.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on March 06, 2023, 02:46:58 AM
Great problem solving. The copper wire will be stiff enough?

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 06, 2023, 05:19:46 AM
Great problem solving. The copper wire will be stiff enough?

Steve

Taken the short length of the inserts, their 0.5 or 0.8mm dia and the type of loading they are going to bear I am quite positive about it.  8)

And some more drilling and wires. The empennage is all reinforced and can be successfully assembled without any glue.

(https://i.ibb.co/LQR72x9/20230305-192911.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/6vdGBQk/20230305-192924.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/jJtS2K9/20230305-192937.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Tr0Zr44/20230305-192853.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Rookie on March 06, 2023, 06:29:55 PM
I am stunned to see so many progress in so little time Prezmo.

Very neat work on the tail with the reinforcements.

Willem
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Borsos on March 07, 2023, 12:16:58 AM
That’s really impressive how fast you are building this one. And how great it looks!
Andreas



Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 08, 2023, 04:33:13 AM
Thanks, gentlemen.

Some more work, though not so quick as over the weekend.
Replacements for flattish PE control horns made from scratch.
And the dry fit of lower wings. For a moment the holes in the wings for the steel wire are drilled tightly (1.2mm) and not accurately. I will redrill them later with a larger dia drillbit (1.3mm) to have a margin of movement to fit them to the planned cardboard rig in order to control the dihedral and sweepback angles. The photo is just a teaser  ;)

(https://i.ibb.co/hHtf0B1/20230307-181847.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Ttn45tn/20230307-182021.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/wy2P6py/20230307-185744.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 09, 2023, 09:07:58 AM
Today it was all about struts. Now all are fitted with wire inserts and all but last three polished to remove the printing traces.

(https://i.ibb.co/X2mcfkw/20230309-000036.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/vQhLWnW/20230309-000043.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 11, 2023, 09:37:40 PM
More preparations.
Trolley and trestles bits cut from the trees awaiting cleaning. Upper wings bits cleaned and armed in wire sections for better strength. And yes, this beast will be HUGE.

(https://i.ibb.co/rm32bTx/20230311-123032.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/3sHpZsv/20230311-122836.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/MRht5b8/20230311-122907.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/W6Zbzcn/20230311-100032.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RichieW on March 11, 2023, 10:02:26 PM
It's good to see how thoroughly you prepare every part before building. I need to follow this example!

The fuselage looks really beautiful.

Richie
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Borsos on March 12, 2023, 06:08:48 PM
I am really curious how you‘ll stack up all those hundreds of struts on to the lower wing!
Andreas
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 12, 2023, 08:49:50 PM
I am really curious how you‘ll stack up all those hundreds of struts on to the lower wing!
Andreas

It will be a challenge. But the plan is to build the centre tower with the engine first. Then put the upper wing on, and add the outer interplane struts. When it sets well - add the inner interplane ones and rigging. The supports of cantilevers  at the end. Wish me luck  ;)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 17, 2023, 07:23:26 PM
Some more fitting, including the cardboard rig. Also all the holes for rigging stations have been drilled. Time to start the paintjob.

(https://i.ibb.co/71NPjZr/20230314-194115.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/drZjg6G/20230317-080637.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: jeroen_R90S on March 17, 2023, 09:05:25 PM
That looks gorgeous -Lukgraph seem to improve with each release, too :)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 20, 2023, 08:58:42 AM
Lower wings got their pattern of spars and ribs on the underside and then got finally glued to the hull using the rig.

(https://i.ibb.co/MgzrXQS/20230319-235232.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/dtDC4hC/20230319-235216.jpg)

Rigging stations under preparation. Today the eyelet counter reached 82.

(https://i.ibb.co/z8y68gC/20230319-185002.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/0f7cCgp/20230319-184758.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Tim Mixon on March 20, 2023, 11:51:58 AM
This is looking so nice!  I’m curious to see how you will paint the wooden hull under the wing bracing.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Borsos on March 20, 2023, 10:29:33 PM
Przemo, my wife is very angry at you. You make me spend money on my first airplane model without wheels.
Until now I actually passed all float planes or flying boats, but that one and like you build it start to change my mind …
Andreas
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: DaveB on March 21, 2023, 07:57:56 PM
Great work there, Prez -

Really taking shape now

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 21, 2023, 08:23:32 PM
Thank you, gentlemen.

Przemo, my wife is very angry at you. You make me spend money on my first airplane model without wheels.
Until now I actually passed all float planes or flying boats, but that one and like you build it start to change my mind …
Andreas
Does it mean that your wife supports your building the land planes only?  ;)
Well, try to convince her that the flying boats are beautiful - especially those from Adria war theatre which had so fancy colour schemes, both Italian and A-H ones.
She may change her mind  ;D
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 22, 2023, 04:04:13 AM
This is looking so nice!  I’m curious to see how you will paint the wooden hull under the wing bracing.
I was thinking of the sequence here, too. But seeing the sufficient gap below the wing spars I concluded that it will be possible to airbrush and paint below them. We will see soon  ;)

Eyelets, eyelets. 128 of them mounted and tested for pull off! Examples on the stabiliser, elevator and cabane struts below.

(https://i.ibb.co/NVCVfbG/20230321-184349.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/bgdM5QV/20230321-184434.jpg)

The ribs pattern under the upper wings added too, together with eyelets...

(https://i.ibb.co/4gL8z9K/20230321-184455.jpg)

Further measurements revealed that the struts 7 and 8 are too short. Replacements made from plastic profiles and wire.

(https://i.ibb.co/Kj5NZv9/20230321-184903.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/qgsDG2J/20230321-184531.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/r2dzBWD/20230321-184611.jpg)

And the scratched control horns for the ailerons.

(https://i.ibb.co/ScJ3S7w/20230321-194247.jpg)

Now to prepare the turnbuckles, 58 large ones from 32nd scale Gaspatch, 48 small ones from 48th scale Gaspatch and 24 micro ones for the engine support - I will scratch them from 2mm sections of tube and eyelets.
The colouring is delayed, I know...
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: KiwiZac on March 22, 2023, 05:53:41 AM
Fascinating and mad at the same time - so many eyelets! Great progress Prze, and thank you for sharing it.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Tim Mixon on March 24, 2023, 07:07:35 AM
“I was thinking of the sequence here, too. But seeing the sufficient gap below the wing spars I concluded that it will be possible to airbrush and paint below them. We will see soon  ;)”


Ah!  The advantage of working in large scale!  I so often forget not everyone builds in 1/72.
The PE rib effects are incredible! Thanks for sharing.

Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 28, 2023, 06:56:17 AM
The turnbuckles prepared, 60 small ones, 58 large ones and 24 small ones with Uschi lines for the control surfaces.

(https://i.ibb.co/xfCJtbs/20230325-141334.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/CnvtGyG/20230325-141420.jpg)


And the colouring started. The linen undersides with pre and postshading to show the traces of the inner structure... Also the wood got the background colour.

(https://i.ibb.co/GTYf5BZ/20230327-224446.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Tk7wKJH/20230327-224333.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Tim Mixon on March 29, 2023, 12:41:04 AM
Fantastic!  I like your translucent fabric effects.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: xan on April 01, 2023, 04:47:35 PM
Splendid leather work on the steering wheel
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 02, 2023, 07:20:55 AM
Thank you, Tim and Xan.

During the recent evenings my attention turned to that Hiero. Almost assembled now.

(https://i.ibb.co/PFw9z7Q/20230401-231336.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/G2Wz7p4/20230401-231316.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 03, 2023, 03:03:24 AM
Colours, colours. Red-white surfaces and black struts

(https://i.ibb.co/WPF2FXf/20230402-185034.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/0yPs7p6/20230402-185010.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/K0pf8JL/20230402-184928.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/vxW1r8M/20230402-184915.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RichieW on April 03, 2023, 03:07:53 AM
Looks lovely with some colour going on. Handsome engine too!

Richie
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Syd Solo on April 03, 2023, 03:06:46 PM
I am so envious of your skills. This as a tutorial in master-modelling.

Cheers

Syd
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on April 03, 2023, 10:36:11 PM
Nice update - getting ready for major components going together - looking forward to it!

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 05, 2023, 04:37:44 PM
Thanks!

Wing tips and empennage postshaded. Wing crosses applied...

(https://i.ibb.co/HhZtrpX/20230403-233212.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/SfHr9Bq/20230403-233129.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/WK5xbYB/received-]70194182506141.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Borsos on April 05, 2023, 05:54:45 PM
Really looking great!
How do the Lukgraph decals react while using them? Are they easy to use?
Andreas
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 06, 2023, 12:48:33 AM
Really looking great!
How do the Lukgraph decals react while using them? Are they easy to use?
Andreas

Hi, these decals are very fine to work with, conforming nicely around the surface details. Silvering minimal, disappeared after some use of MicroSol. One just needs to cut them carefully as they are printed on the decal paper fully covered with the carrier foil.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Tim Mixon on April 06, 2023, 10:16:25 AM
Beautiful work. This is such an attractive aircraft and you are really bringing out the best qualities.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on April 07, 2023, 01:32:04 AM
Great work. Are those house brand decals or does someone else do them for Lukgraph?

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 07, 2023, 01:47:21 AM
Thanks.

Great work. Are those house brand decals or does someone else do them for Lukgraph?
Steve
Łukasz started making his own decals recently, not only for the kitsets but also losenge, linen, wood, etc.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on April 07, 2023, 01:54:50 AM
Ok! Thanks for the update.

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RichieW on April 08, 2023, 01:57:57 AM
Really beautiful work, it's going to be a real stunner.

Richie
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Gisbod on April 08, 2023, 07:06:15 AM

Looks amazing Prze, as always.

I’d love to try the their Albatros C.III.


Guy
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: jeroen_R90S on April 08, 2023, 04:51:06 PM
Beautiful workmanship!
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 08, 2023, 10:28:17 PM
Thank you.

And among the preparations to Easter celebrations I managed to paint the wood.

(https://i.ibb.co/3Br1d5y/20230408-141806.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/xHR5ZV9/20230408-141724.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on April 09, 2023, 12:10:28 AM
Wow!! That's a major step. It all looks amazing. Oils over acrylics?

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 09, 2023, 08:32:49 AM
Thanks, Steve.
But it is not oils, I use water paints to paint the wood grain instead, and seal them with acrylic transparent orange/brown
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 11, 2023, 07:50:17 AM
Hammering the nails...

(https://i.ibb.co/7vXwyqR/20230410-234558.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/CVJ7ZXv/20230410-234615.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/RzZL8qt/20230410-234624.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RichieW on April 11, 2023, 10:50:25 PM
Wow, so much attention to detail. The 'nails' add so much to model. I love your watercolour wood effect too. Yet another technique noted down to experiment with.

Richie
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: FAf on April 12, 2023, 01:04:14 AM
Very nice look! The nails really add another layers of details.
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: gedmundson on April 12, 2023, 01:18:54 AM
Just catching up on this one Prze, and looks like you’re doing an amazing job (as always!) on the details and paintwork. I have to agree when you said you started on the project as soon as you got it, and have felt the same kind of enthusiasm for a project right from day 1. And your work shows great enthusiasm  ;)
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Gisbod on April 12, 2023, 04:43:56 PM
Just catching up too Prze,

Beautiful work! I may have missed it, but do you make your own eyelets?

Guy

Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 12, 2023, 05:55:34 PM
Thank you for your kind comments!

Guy, I use eyelets from Bob's Buckles where I may. However, I make my own ones for the hinged mount points of the Gaspatch turnbuckles.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on April 12, 2023, 10:47:43 PM
Nailed it ::) ! That is a very subtle but effective addition to the build.

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Tim Mixon on April 13, 2023, 01:38:44 AM
Beautiful wood effect. Interesting technique using acrylic paint for the wood texture. I have not been able to do that.  Very realistic nail work as well.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 20, 2023, 05:15:50 PM
One step forward, two steps back. I was naive to think that the thin carrier film of nail heads would disappear under the coat of varnish. It did not... >:(

(https://i.ibb.co/2vwS4jV/20230413-145716.jpg)


It was not long before I made the decision to scrape it all (except the part under the wing spars where I did not place the nails decals)...

(https://i.ibb.co/KhTgXyf/20230413-145720.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/yWtQ1zN/received-5998389456942833.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/sK5nt7v/received-2523054051167231.jpg)


... and repaint...

(https://i.ibb.co/ZLJfsbC/20230420-082300.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/xgMpBf6/20230420-082317.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/mtcRSp2/20230420-082333.jpg)


... and for the nail heads I will be using the HGW decals with peelable transfer film. They have just arrived.  :)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on April 21, 2023, 03:43:00 AM
Uh oh - but a quick repair!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: FAf on April 21, 2023, 09:31:30 PM
Ouch! But it'll be worth it, so the right choice I believe!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Tim Mixon on April 22, 2023, 03:05:47 AM
Excellent recovery from the decal film edge.  I’m sure you will have better outcomes with the new product. 
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: KiwiZac on April 22, 2023, 07:04:18 AM
I can only imagine the disappointment you felt with the carrier film but bravo for carrying out the fix and powering through - I have little doubt the end result will be well worth the extra effort.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Borsos on April 22, 2023, 06:45:05 PM
I read in WDF 99 that every Lohner seems to have had at least one complete overhaul in their service career.
So in this way you just did what is historicaly correct.
Great rescue!
Andreas
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RichieW on April 23, 2023, 01:30:30 AM
Great save! That must have been so frustrating but the situation has been recovered beautifully.

Richie
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 25, 2023, 01:06:13 AM
Nails application. Slowly but always forward  ;)

(https://i.ibb.co/P96LsGj/20230424-162247.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Pg48H6Q/20230424-162234.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: KiwiZac on April 26, 2023, 06:40:42 AM
That looks very sharp Prze, well done!
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RichieW on April 26, 2023, 08:07:08 AM
The nails look superb, you must be much happier with it now.

Richie
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 26, 2023, 08:16:24 AM
Thanks, Zac and Richie. And yes, I am happier now. Especially that I finished nailing. And added the hull markings. Now to add all those PE fittings.

(https://i.ibb.co/mJFCqmQ/20230426-000935.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Jn8Snmr/20230426-001006.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on April 26, 2023, 10:22:04 AM
Brilliant work.

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 27, 2023, 01:21:31 AM
The floats have their struts attached, cardboard jigs are handy again...

(https://i.ibb.co/3s01z9Z/20230426-164701.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/FxKYGyY/20230426-164713.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Boch on April 27, 2023, 02:03:51 AM
Looks like a beautiful model. Fingers crossed and impatiently waiting for more photos and descriptions.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: jeroen_R90S on April 27, 2023, 05:25:01 AM
Good recovery -not meant negatively, but the fuselage looks like a flying wooden shoe! (clog)  ;D Albeit a gorgeous one :)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 28, 2023, 06:27:31 AM
Thanks.

So, working on on the Holzschuh  ;)

The floats mounted and rigged, the fuselage fittings on place.

(https://i.ibb.co/rQ24rjB/20230427-221317.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/dDCb3CS/20230427-221207.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/n6PWLdY/20230427-221150.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Dg060TQ/20230427-221305.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/pX8BBNW/20230427-221157.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 28, 2023, 05:08:17 PM
And started working on the propeller.

(https://i.ibb.co/7RXn2Fj/20230428-080029.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/fD8h6CV/20230428-080048.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/hfWx1rh/20230428-080130.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/WPTByD4/20230428-080116.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: kensar on April 28, 2023, 09:30:21 PM
Those floats look great.  In fact, the whole thing looks great!
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Borsos on April 29, 2023, 01:27:07 AM
That’s I-finally-also-placed-an-order-for-this nice!
Andreas
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on April 29, 2023, 01:28:56 AM
I just went through your entire build to date. Brilliant work as always Przemo! The details and especially the painting are striking! All of the drilling and pinning tend to show Me that this kit is way above My Skill Level. You are indeed a Master!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on April 29, 2023, 10:53:12 PM
The wood effect is amazing on all of this but the shot of  the float in particular is spectacular!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 05, 2023, 07:58:54 AM
Thank you!

After a short absence due to the long Polish weekend I am back to modeling.

The propeller carved and coloured. Also dry fit with the engine assembly to check if the clearance is OK.
22 turnbuckles attached to the engine bearers element.

(https://i.ibb.co/HKkDVLJ/20230504-225844.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/zmYKZks/20230504-225919.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/RQV1Qs8/20230504-231218.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/qrJFPNf/20230504-225351.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/4twCxcN/20230504-235036.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: FAf on May 05, 2023, 05:49:06 PM
Great job!
Everything is looking so precise!

/Fredrik
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: KiwiZac on May 06, 2023, 09:07:21 AM
Gorgeous work Prze, that prop is very pretty! I really need to try that for myself.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RichieW on May 06, 2023, 07:31:25 PM
Beautiful carved prop, that's a lot of turnbuckles on the engine bearers. You have the patience of a saint fitting all those!

Richie
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on May 07, 2023, 01:09:19 AM
Beautiful carved prop, that's a lot of turnbuckles on the engine bearers. You have the patience of a saint fitting all those!

Richie

I agree completely!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Tim Mixon on May 07, 2023, 01:43:13 AM
Really nice prop!  It doesn’t leave any play room between the tips and the fuselage!   

Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: macsporran on May 07, 2023, 06:04:00 PM
Beautiful work, Prz, the woodwork glows and the detail work is superb.
Sandy
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 09, 2023, 08:17:02 AM
I am glad you like my work. So here is more. The propeller complete with boss plates recovered from spares. The engine support complete with its 22 cables and side fittings from the kit PE fret. And finally dry fit together. Now for some dirt and to mount it on the hull. And yes, there will be even more lines with turnbuckles...

(https://i.ibb.co/RHGV47T/20230509-000652.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZNV72zF/20230509-000645.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/m4g9nqV/20230509-000729.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/pxrZ07W/20230509-000901.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/qYFLYS7/20230509-000623.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/ft4WXqx/20230509-000558.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on May 09, 2023, 09:39:41 AM
Lovely Przemo.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 10, 2023, 06:05:01 AM
Building the tower supporting the engine with its 40 rigging lines...

(https://i.ibb.co/pRf5gFs/20230509-201829.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/2qRPY27/20230509-201820.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/LNbDK9v/20230509-211109.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/5svwBcr/20230509-211043.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Df46hHB/20230509-211018.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on May 10, 2023, 06:40:05 AM
The mount and rigging look outstanding to date! 40 lines....about 35 more than I would have patience for  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: KiwiZac on May 10, 2023, 11:18:41 AM
40 lines....about 35 more than I would have patience for  ::)
You and me both!!  :o
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Tim Mixon on May 10, 2023, 12:15:42 PM
Serious rigging on that engine bearer. Looking great!
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Borsos on May 10, 2023, 01:54:20 PM
Quite a little too less rigging for my taste, otherwise a great progress!   :)
Andreas
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Mike Norris (UK) on May 10, 2023, 08:03:52 PM
Hmmmmm  ???
Maybe I'll just hold back a while on the Lohner build  :D

Mike
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 12, 2023, 06:24:36 AM
The engine tower finished, the engine just laid dry to give the photos more flavour.

Honestly, this model costs me a lot. But today ended with a huge success. What I feared most in this build is now done - the horizontal stabiliser rests now safely on its 8 struts!!! But do not ask me how it was done - probably the most stressing modelling bit in my life...

Well, the bird starts taking shape!

(https://i.ibb.co/1b1fN2Z/20230511-221246.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/T2Jhqqd/20230511-221412.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/G25h193/20230511-221312.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/8g4ntz8/20230511-221430.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/GtWrNsC/20230511-221451.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Tim Mixon on May 12, 2023, 08:58:10 AM
Beautifully done!  Getting that tail to sit straight on all those struts is no joke. I remember having difficulty with my 1/72 build.  Yours is coming together quite nicely. 
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on May 13, 2023, 01:00:41 AM
Amazing work on getting that tail lined up! The aircraft is looking awesome!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: FAf on May 13, 2023, 02:56:12 AM
Perfect start on the weekend! Colourful, complicated and with a hint of things to come.
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RichieW on May 13, 2023, 08:38:05 AM
Wow Andreas, that is amazing. The horizontal stabilizer struts gave me a nervous twitch just looking at them on your model which is in another country! It must have been a traumatic experience but it all looks perfectly lined up.


Richie
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on May 13, 2023, 10:34:08 AM
Catching up again. That is some serious alignment work!!

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 13, 2023, 11:29:31 PM
Thanks for kind words, gentlemen


More work on the tail feathers. Vertical stabilizer with its rigging done. Elevator and rudder fitted with control horns just dry fit for more flavour. I will do the control lines from Uschi elastic not to strain the assembly excessively.

(https://i.ibb.co/bvGQmWN/20230513-152307.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/p1yVvDB/20230513-152212.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on May 13, 2023, 11:40:14 PM
More fine work and as it goes together it's going to be a colourful bird!

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 14, 2023, 04:20:07 AM
The tail complete! Now to the engine...

(https://i.ibb.co/HXTHg6w/20230513-201227.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/88HjphL/20230513-201251.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/tqvN46z/20230513-201328.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on May 14, 2023, 04:41:05 AM
The Tail Markings look gorgeous as does that rigging!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Borsos on May 14, 2023, 04:48:52 AM
There really was much rope on those old pirate ships.
Great progress again!
Captain Jack Sparrow is waiting in anticipation.
Andreas
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 15, 2023, 05:42:06 AM
Some test fitting of the complete engine, radiator and the upper struts. There is need for scratching a couple of installations, including the oil tank.

(https://i.ibb.co/yFVcmkL/20230514-201717.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/gt530Ny/20230514-201706.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: gedmundson on May 15, 2023, 11:51:41 AM
Such exquisite work, Prze. Looks excellent.
Cheers,
Gary
 
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on May 15, 2023, 10:22:03 PM
This is amazing! The shapes are fabulous and the motor mount etc are perfect.

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Tim Mixon on May 16, 2023, 08:46:24 AM
Coming along nicely!  I really like your exhaust paintwork. 
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 17, 2023, 04:56:03 AM
The engine is mounted. The cooling installation attached. The fuel pipe from the hull tank connected. Scratching of the oil tank underway.

(https://i.ibb.co/x2wfQ3F/20230516-204802.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/gr7cKTK/20230516-204834.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/5vmfLZR/20230516-205007.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RichieW on May 17, 2023, 07:28:23 AM
This is such a complicated looking model but you have really mastered it. It is looking jaw droppingly beautiful!

Richie
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on May 17, 2023, 07:47:49 AM
The engine and mount are amazing, as is the rest of the build!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: KiwiZac on May 17, 2023, 04:29:27 PM
Prze my friend, your work on this is a whole other level: the engine and its "tower" truly look like a real example. Utterly magnificent work!
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: macsporran on May 17, 2023, 05:17:37 PM
Glorious. The woodwork and exhaust patina is really nice.
Sandy
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 18, 2023, 06:15:15 AM
Oil installation complete! Of course its pure guess.
And then some dry fitting with top struts and top wing centre section.

(https://i.ibb.co/Wg2D8RK/20230517-202656.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/rc05Csh/20230517-202649.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/tqf3dJf/20230517-220727.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/xJKT1GP/20230517-220213.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/bd0zhqW/20230517-220225.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on May 18, 2023, 06:20:42 AM
Your various metallic effects are amazing!  I particularly like the radiator front.

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on May 18, 2023, 06:52:04 AM
The center section test fit looks perfect to My Eyes! Well Done!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Rookie on May 18, 2023, 05:09:18 PM
Senses working overtime...

  :o

Willem
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Borsos on May 18, 2023, 10:57:23 PM
Your progress on the Lohner looks as intimidating as impressive. I never really felt frightened by the complexity of a kit (before building it, I mean), but that’s really tough what you do here. How do you align the struts? Auxiliary structure made of cardboard? By eye?
Regards,
Andreas
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 18, 2023, 11:38:13 PM
Thank you.

Your progress on the Lohner looks as intimidating as impressive. I never really felt frightened by the complexity of a kit (before building it, I mean), but that’s really tough what you do here. How do you align the struts? Auxiliary structure made of cardboard? By eye?
Regards,
Andreas
Andreas, I am scared of this kit, too. For the time being I used a cardboard jig for lower wings alignment. And I will also use it when attaching the top wing to stabilize the wing cellule.
 The tail assembly was a nightmare and I did it  "by eye", a bit of trial and error which was surprisingly successful in the first attempt.  ???
The lower part of the engine support was very stable with its N struts which joined both the engine bearers and the horizontal truss under them. The upper N struts are now attached too, but here my eyes tell me they are not perfectly symmetric in the front view, they will need to be corrected by rigging.
And I have still to decide if I attach the centre section itself and the outer wing panels later followed immediately by interplane struts. Or assemble the complete top wings set before attaching it.
The first option has a danger of not getting the correct sweep back, the second one can be difficult because of the large weight of the wings assembly. In any case, the interplane struts will be attached after the wings are aligned as this is imho the only way to ensure their proper inclination...
Well, it certainly is the most difficult model in my life...
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RichieW on May 19, 2023, 12:18:02 AM
This build just keeps on astonishing me! When you mount the top wing could you possibly show us how you go about it? I have a bit of a tough stage coming up on my project and am keen to see how you go about solving this riddle.

Richie
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 19, 2023, 06:18:57 AM
The first steps towards making it a biplane. The top wing assembled with required 10deg sweepback. The hull with lower wing back to the jig. And the first pair of rigging cables in the tower upper storey tightened and the symmetry restored. Also the throttle control linkage scratch built.

(https://i.ibb.co/WfTfsS9/20230518-204059.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/4SCCxgq/20230518-204123.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/gr9wq98/20230518-204140.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on May 19, 2023, 07:55:40 AM
The upper wing looks great! The rigging start also looks Fantastic! You should have a Biplane soon  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RichieW on May 19, 2023, 08:04:42 AM
Great update, you went for the one piece upper wing installation then. It's good to see how you've set up the jig. It's been a masterclass in thorough preparation from day 1 of this build.

Richie
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Boch on May 20, 2023, 09:17:44 AM
A true beauty. Amazing work. It is pure pleasure to admire it.

Lukasz.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on May 20, 2023, 11:15:05 PM
When YOU fear a model I start running. Your patience is definitely paying off.

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 22, 2023, 03:54:22 PM
It is a great relief. The dryfitting of top wing showed that the interplane struts are OK in length, at least surely not too short. So now to install the last turnbuckles in the struts and to the final assembly.

(https://i.ibb.co/C5rw920/20230521-231231.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/F66J5Bk/20230521-231301.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Boch on May 22, 2023, 04:50:45 PM
Hello,

It presents itself splendidly. The end of work is near. I'm looking forward to the rigging and final photos. Have you already chosen your next model?

Lukasz
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 22, 2023, 10:02:14 PM
Thanks, Łukasz.
Next I will go back to the interrupted build of Polish Caudron G.3

https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=13595.0

And after that - something simpler from my WNW stash...  ;D
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Boch on May 22, 2023, 10:57:16 PM
Ooo Caudron G.3. I have it in my plan as well, but Nieuport gave me such a hard time that I have to put the CSM company on hold for a while. So I will follow the end of building a flying boat and the continuation of new projects.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on May 23, 2023, 02:02:19 AM
That is a Gorgeous Biplane/ Boat Przemo!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Borsos on May 23, 2023, 05:13:53 AM
It looks epic!
Great job, Przemo.

Andreas
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 23, 2023, 06:36:26 AM
Going on...
After mounting the midspan turnbuckles on the struts I gathered my courage and attached the upper wing to the tower. And then inserted the front 4 interplane struts

(https://i.ibb.co/4drWYKS/20230522-215307.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/ck2NT1w/20230522-215256.jpg)

After couple of minutes for the CA glue to set I started with the rear struts. They turned out to be about 1mm too short. I added the additional pieces of wire and did the left side pair. The right side later when I cool down... There is also a slight distortion in the plan view but this should be an easy correction with the rigging stagger lines.

(https://i.ibb.co/106nSvT/20230522-222258.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/ys7w80F/20230522-222601.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on May 23, 2023, 06:42:08 AM
Looks great and hopefully it will be as easy of a correction as you envision !
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RichieW on May 24, 2023, 12:41:07 AM
Awesome! I can't see any problem with the wing alignment in the photos but I am sure your great skills will correct anything you have noticed.

Richie
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 24, 2023, 04:33:47 AM
Thanks Rick and Richie.

There was indeed a distortion in plan view but as I expected a careful tensioning of stagger lines remedied it, so I can declare that now geometry of the wing cellule is sufficiently close to symmetry 😉

You can also see that the front supports of cantilevers are missing. Yesterday I found them to be a tad too long, so I decided to rig the wings first and then I will check again and adjust their length if necessary.

And yes, I am extremely happy to have this long and difficult project nearing the successful end.

(https://i.ibb.co/nnZkRPk/20230523-202215.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/b3jPJJT/20230523-202123.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/VQpmfNT/20230523-202242.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Borsos on May 24, 2023, 04:49:31 AM
Fantastic. A Happy End after a long and winding road…
Andreas
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RichieW on May 24, 2023, 04:53:47 AM
It looks glorious, Przemol Vs Complex model= Przemol wins by knockout! :)

Richie
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on May 24, 2023, 05:33:55 AM
It looks glorious, Przemol Vs Complex model= Przemol wins by knockout! :)

Richie

I think Richie Has said it perfectly! Looking Brilliant! I sort of wish this Aircraft were available in a Less complicated 1/32nd scale Plastic kit as your build is making Me want to do one!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on May 24, 2023, 10:09:29 PM
Brilliant process!

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: kensar on May 25, 2023, 02:54:50 AM
This project is looking brilliant, Przemol.  Very clean work.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Boch on May 25, 2023, 04:08:25 AM
Beautiful work Przemek. You have an amazing workshop.

Lukasz
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 25, 2023, 05:53:45 PM
Going on. The rigging is well advanced. The cantilever struts almost complete, I had to make new longer rear diagonal ones, they are airbrushed and ready for installation. I have also rigged the ailerons, which are also now ready to be attached. Two or three evenings and the beast should be finished (!!!).

(https://i.ibb.co/swSkyHG/20230525-080532.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/L5wsMXs/20230525-080556.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/VxdPYTv/20230525-080641.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/wKZx6LR/20230525-080648.jpg)
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Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: DaveB on May 25, 2023, 08:08:25 PM
Wow! great work so far, Prez.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: lcarroll on May 25, 2023, 11:17:09 PM
   Impressive beyond words Prze, a beautiful model in all regards!
   A few words from the previous stand out; "complex and brilliant" say it well and particularly, as Borsos states, "epic". Your work brings so much to this Forum and is always a pleasure and privilege to share ...... many Thanks!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 26, 2023, 07:47:23 AM
Thank you Dave and Lance.
Lance, your words are the highest recognition I might get, too high. It is my honour to be accepted here among so many great modelers of WW1 aircraft.

Well, a brief report from today, the main rigging finishedand ailerons attached, though not yet fully connected. Unfortunately I will have to make a 2 days pause, though I feel itching in my mind and fingers knowing that the end is just one good evening away...

(https://i.ibb.co/Cnbv0jq/20230525-233615.jpg)

And no, the box serving as a base during this stage does not hint at my next project, it was just sitting at the stash top when I was looking for the base  ;)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RichieW on May 26, 2023, 08:01:43 AM
Just when I thought the model couldn't possibly get any more beautiful it got more beautiful! The angle of the photo really shows off the lovely colours and markings.

Richie
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: KiwiZac on May 26, 2023, 09:41:23 AM
   Impressive beyond words Prze, a beautiful model in all regards!
   A few words from the previous stand out; "complex and brilliant" say it well and particularly, as Borsos states, "epic". Your work brings so much to this Forum and is always a pleasure and privilege to share ...... many Thanks!
Cheers,
Lance
I 100% echo these sentiments. The first photo made me say something blasphemous!!

(https://i.ibb.co/Cnbv0jq/20230525-233615.jpg)

And no, the box serving as a base during this stage does not hint at my next project, it was just sitting at the stash top when I was looking for the base  ;)
That just so happens to be the WNW D.VII I want! When you build it I hope you do so as Berthold's!
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 26, 2023, 05:28:51 PM
   Impressive beyond words Prze, a beautiful model in all regards!
   A few words from the previous stand out; "complex and brilliant" say it well and particularly, as Borsos states, "epic". Your work brings so much to this Forum and is always a pleasure and privilege to share ...... many Thanks!
Cheers,
Lance
I 100% echo these sentiments. The first photo made me say something blasphemous!!

(https://i.ibb.co/Cnbv0jq/20230525-233615.jpg)

And no, the box serving as a base during this stage does not hint at my next project, it was just sitting at the stash top when I was looking for the base  ;)
That just so happens to be the WNW D.VII I want! When you build it I hope you do so as Berthold's!


Dear Zac,
I surely meant no offence by placing Fokker D.VII box as a base and my comment was stiggered by someone asking me, what I will build next.
Of course, I plan to build this Fokker D.VII but there is a long queue... And when I get to this kit it will surely end in Polish livery. BTW I already have the Berthold's kite in my collection, build from Roden 72nd scale kit many moons ago.

And no, the box serving as a base during this stage does not hint at my next project, it was just sitting at the stash top when I was looking for the base  ;)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Tim Mixon on May 26, 2023, 08:40:28 PM
Przemol ,
This is looking so nice.  Everything is so clean and the alignment looks just right. What a beautiful aircraft design!

Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on May 26, 2023, 09:29:05 PM
I have to say Brilliant work as always Przemo. Such a beautiful Aircraft and your work is Stunning!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: KiwiZac on May 28, 2023, 02:54:13 PM
Dear Zac,
I surely meant no offence by placing Fokker D.VII box as a base [...]Of course, I plan to build this Fokker D.VII but there is a long queue...
No offence received at all - only envy as I desire the Berthold kit for myself!  ;D
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 30, 2023, 07:57:20 AM
I have just finished this project. Long and demanding but the more satisfying! Better photos soon in the final gallery.

(https://i.ibb.co/fMw7Mdh/20230529-230448.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/xHY3dbg/20230529-230609.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/qxFTr5b/20230529-231257.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/CHbgQVS/20230529-230804.jpg)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on May 30, 2023, 08:45:20 AM
In a Word...Brilliant!!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: FAf on May 30, 2023, 04:18:41 PM
What a fantastic result! Love the colours and all of the detailing.
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Tim Mixon on May 30, 2023, 08:06:07 PM
Just beautiful!  Very well done Przemol
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RichieW on May 31, 2023, 12:00:06 AM
What a stunner, I'm looking forward to seeing more photos in the completed models section.

Richie
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Boch on May 31, 2023, 05:48:53 AM
Oh gosh! This looks great Przemek. Can't wait for the final gallery. I am amazed at your craftsmanship and how perfectly you make such difficult models.

Lukasz
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 31, 2023, 06:54:42 AM
Thank you, gentlemen. The gallery is already there.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on May 31, 2023, 09:08:09 AM
Amazing work!!

Steve
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Rookie on June 01, 2023, 04:27:43 AM
Thank you for taking us along on your beautiful journey. What beautiful model this has become, despite the fact this is not an easy kit.


Extremely well done!

Willem
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 01, 2023, 09:49:15 PM
Thanks, Steve and Willem :-)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: jeroen_R90S on June 25, 2023, 05:47:35 PM
Thank you for taking us along on your beautiful journey. What beautiful model this has become, despite the fact this is not an easy kit.


Extremely well done!

Willem

My thoughts exactly!
What a gorgeous result!

Jeroen
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 26, 2023, 08:02:51 AM
Thank you, Jeroen.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Brad Cancian on June 26, 2023, 06:24:19 PM
How did I miss commenting on this! Truly AMAZING work Prze! Your skills are beyond compare.

Warmest regards,

Brad
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Europapete on December 19, 2024, 09:53:02 AM
Awesome build Prze, thank you for posting the log, I have printed it out and am using it as I build my kit currently. Lots of very helpful tips and techniques. Regards, Pete in RI
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: andonio64 on December 19, 2024, 05:06:49 PM
Prez, what a beauty!
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on December 19, 2024, 07:30:52 PM
Awesome build Prze, thank you for posting the log, I have printed it out and am using it as I build my kit currently. Lots of very helpful tips and techniques. Regards, Pete in RI

Thanks! Fingers crossed for your build!

Prez, what a beauty!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: macsporran on December 19, 2024, 10:51:30 PM
I've just won this kit on a well known auction site and I'd forgotten you'd done such a superb job on it recently, Prze.
I'll study it again in detail when I get started.
Lovely stuff
Sandy
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on December 20, 2024, 09:45:51 PM
I've just won this kit on a well known auction site and I'd forgotten you'd done such a superb job on it recently, Prze.
I'll study it again in detail when I get started.
Lovely stuff
Sandy

I am looking forward to your take on that kit :)
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Monty on December 21, 2024, 10:05:45 PM
Wow, Przemo! This is a fabulous build! I can't add enough superlatives! As you said, probably your most complex build so far, something I wouldn't attempt now... but very inspirational, it can be done. A very attractive aircraft in a stunning scheme, I had no ide how complex the rigging is. But it was great catch up on the build, so well documented... Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: Lohner Tl - L75 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: DaddyO on December 21, 2024, 10:15:19 PM
Not sure I've not kept up to date with this one Prez. Looks brilliant (all I need to do now is go back and absorb all the earlier posts)  ;)

Merrausan chriukavmauk avo lat agh youruk

Paul