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Modelers Lounge => Time to relax => Topic started by: Ollie on December 03, 2012, 09:25:23 AM
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With all the WNW stuff coming out, has anyone other than me for now ever looked at the model numbers of the WNW kits and noticed some holes. Like the numbers I listed below is there no model assigned, or does this mean something will go there or is it something else?
No model assigned to: 32017, 32026, 32031 through 32036, 32039 through 32047 and 320801 maybe or 320800
I was updating my listing of them and noticed this. Cool if they plan on putting models in those numbers, would be a big boost to the modeling community let alone a money maker in my eyes.
Ollie
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From all reports Wingnuts have over 50 kits in various stages of development, so I'm sure all those numbers have been allocated to certain kits and will be filled as kits come off the development line and into production.
Des.
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With all the WNW stuff coming out, has anyone other than me for now ever looked at the model numbers of the WNW kits and noticed some holes. Like the numbers I listed below is there no model assigned, or does this mean something will go there or is it something else?
No model assigned to: 32017, 32026, 32031 through 32036, 32039 through 32047 and 320801 maybe or 320800
I was updating my listing of them and noticed this. Cool if they plan on putting models in those numbers, would be a big boost to the modeling community let alone a money maker in my eyes.
Ollie
Yes I have looked at the model numbers Ollie and posted them in an earlier thread about WNW releases. Will try to find it as it is in need of updating....
Andrew
edit: found it and updated it:
32001 - Junkers J.1
32002 - LVG C.VI (Sold Out)
32003 - SE.5a 'Hisso'
32004 - Bristol F.2b Fighter
32005 - Gotha G.IV
32006 - Pfalz D.IIIa
32007 - DH.9a 'NINAK'
32008 - Sopwith Triplane
32009 - Albatros D.V
32010 - Hansa-Brandenburg W.29 (Sold Out)
32011 - Fokker D.VII (Fok)
32012 - RE.8 'HARRY TATE'
32013 - Sopwith Pup RFC
32014 - FE.2b (Early)
32015 - Albatros D.Va
32016 - Sopwith Pup RNAS
32017 - UNKOWN
32018 - Fokker E.II/E.III (Early)
32019 - Pfalz D.XII
32020 - Sopwith Snipe (TBC)
32021 - Fokker E.1 (TBC)
32022 - Roland D.VIa
32023 - Rumpler C.IV (Early)
32024 - Hannover Cl.II
32025 - FE.2b (Late)
32026 - UNKOWN
32027 - Fokker D.VII (Alb)
32028 - AMC DH.2
32029 - Fokker E.IV (TBC)
32030 - Fokker D.VII (OAW)
32031 - UNKOWN
32032 - UNKOWN
32033 - UNKOWN
32034 - UNKOWN
32035 - UNKOWN
32036 - UNKOWN
32037 - Rumpler C.IV (Late)
32038 - Salmson 2-A2 (TBC)
32039 - UNKOWN
32040 - UNKOWN
32041 - UNKOWN
32042 - UNKOWN
32043 - UNKOWN
32044 - UNKOWN
32045 - UNKOWN
32046 - UNKOWN
32047 - UNKOWN
32048 - Fokker E.III (Late)
32049 - ?
32050 - ?
32801 - UNKOWN
32802 - E.III & DH.2 "The Duellists"
NOTES: I used ? for #49 and #50 as WNW have stated they had about 50 kits in various stages of development. Does this include 32801/32802? (Don't know obviously).
We can assume the existence of UNKOWN kits due to the model numbers for the Duellists (32802) and the other announced kits.
edit 03-12-2012: formatting and notes added.
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My Oh My, just think about what could populate all the Unknown/Purple spots!?!
Cheers,
Lance :) ::)
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In some ways Im trying to NOT think what they are. Not til the mortgage is done anyways...
Steve
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I still think we will see every plane seen in their boxart kitted by them, so that means a Spad VII and a Camel at least
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My Oh My, just think about what could populate all the Unknown/Purple spots!?!
Cheers,
Lance :) ::)
Well, with a $1,200.00 automotive repair bill staring me in the face first thing this morning, together with Day 1 of Christmas shopping, I'm happy to wait several months for any new kit announcements.
Cheers,
Chris
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My Oh My, just think about what could populate all the Unknown/Purple spots!?!
Cheers,
Lance :) ::)
Well, with a $1,200.00 automotive repair bill staring me in the face first thing this morning, together with Day 1 of Christmas shopping, I'm happy to wait several months for any new kit announcements.
Cheers,
Chris
My thoughts exactly, "be careful what you wish for" seems to apply. It's either a slowdown from the WNW Folks or a divorce here.........
Cheers,
Lance
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2 divorces $10000, 200 months support payments $130,000, a WNW Fokker DVII...priceless.........
Steve
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My Oh My, just think about what could populate all the Unknown/Purple spots!?!
Cheers,
Lance :) ::)
Well, with a $1,200.00 automotive repair bill staring me in the face first thing this morning, together with Day 1 of Christmas shopping, I'm happy to wait several months for any new kit announcements.
Cheers,
Chris
My thoughts exactly, "be careful what you wish for" seems to apply. It's either a slowdown from the WNW Folks or a divorce here.........
Cheers,
Lance
Ah, once you make that move to NOTL, you'll be on an endless second honeymoon! ;D ;D
Cheers,
Chris
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I'm in hope that one of those purple unknowns will be a SPAD XII, Hanriot,Camel or a Strutter. We shall see one of these days.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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It has been stated in print that there is a Pfalz D111 coming. It was in an earlier Windsock Worldwide.
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I am planning 2 Silver post war Snipes already!
I really want a Hanriot HD1. Want to do some Italian colourful schemes.
A Dolphin looks possible.
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... and a Vickers Gunbus, DH.5, Halberstadt D, etc. I would also like to see a Fokker F.1/Dr.1, Camel and some French aircraft from WNW, but it seems they may hold to their previously stated reasons for not pursuing those types. The Roden, Special Hobby, and certain Hobbycraft models of them may be considered adequate- but the hobby did not advance to its current state-of-the-art by modelers simply accepting whatever's considered "adequate".
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I am planning 2 Silver post war Snipes already!
I really want a Hanriot HD1. Want to do some Italian colourful schemes.
A Dolphin looks possible.
Don't worry about silver-period markings for the Snipe - if WNW don't do them I have thirteen profiles drawn so far..... We might also need new ailerons and fin/rudder, but I'd expect that they'll be in the kit as they were used (I think) during the war. I also have some photos of the new one at the RAF museum. On that note the RAF Museum Hanriot has apparently gone off to EnZed as part of the RE8/Snipe/Albatros D.V deal with The Vintage Aviator, so I'm VERY hopeful that we'll see that one from WNW soon and the 48th and 72nd Hanriot decals are due to be printed soon, so the donkey-work on them is done.
After the arrival of the Hannover, I had a good dig to see what other machines used the Argus AsIII and one which came up was the Roland D.IIa - a beauty and no mistake and it would fit into the missing list in both Merc D.III-powered D.II form and the IIa as two different boxings of a broadly similar set of mouldings. The D.IIa was slightly longer in the nose, had a different pattern of louvre panels around the nose and also had a minor change to the positioning of undercarriage legs to accommodate the cg change, so on the face of it, fairly simple to produce two kits.
Others I think we could/should see in the near future are the DFW C.V - produced in greater numbers than any other German WWI warplane and the Albatros C.III from the German side and a Sopwith Strutter in a number of different boxings a Bristol Scout and maybe an Armstrong Whitworth FK8? The BE2 series should also be along soon - so many different versions there!
All good fun to speculate upon. Meanwhile, it's about time I spent some time at the modelling desk!
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Should keep you busy doing alternative markings Rowan. ;D
Cheers
Pete
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I need an emoticon that does smug rubbing of hands together whist saying "Eeexcelleeent"
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I need an emoticon that does smug rubbing of hands together whist saying "Eeexcelleeent"
here ya go:
(http://aintnogod.com/ipb/uploads/gallery/album_17/gallery_298_17_1836.gif)
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;D ;D ;D
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Right click, save. Expect to see it again!
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A BE2 will be an instant wallet-emptier for me...
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Yes, it's not only the money but the time! If only I didn't need to sleep. I'm guessing everyone is like me and buying kits faster than they can build them. My lesson learned was when the WNW Hansa sold out. Buy now, build later (and hope to live to be 110 with good eyesight). Fortunately WNW told me in an email that it is planned to be reissued at some point with extras (more photoetch).
BTW, it struck me as funny to see Rowan Broadbent with "Junior Member" below his name. I can't think of anyone less Junior. Thank you for all the work you do Rowan in this field. On your first post, the computer should have recognized you and called you "Master". ;D
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I'd like to see the Junkers D-1, the little monoplane. And a couple of more floatplanes.
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I have heard it said that WNW are against releasing a kit of anything that has been done by other manufacturers. Make's sense but it didn't stop them realeasing a Sopwith Triplane in the face of Roden (which I understand isn't a bad kit in itself). It's claimed that the Hobbycraft Camel is why they haven't released on of their own although I read that the HC Camel is a dog. Anyone able to comment on that?
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Here's my two cents; Lloyd C.V, Berg D.I, Phonix D.I & D.II, FF33E, Jenny, any SVA, Caproni, Lohner Sea Planes, Ufag C.I, Phonix C.I, English Sea Planes and DFW C.V! Whew!
Any of these as WnW dream kits I want.
Steve
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I'd buy everything on your list except the Jenny, Steve, but first I'd want to see a Roland C.II, Halby CL.II and D.I. A SPAD A2 would also be cool.
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Of course WNW will do a Lloyd C.V in the near future, since I'm scratchbuilding one now! ;) Isn't that one of the primary laws of the modeling universe? ;D
That would be just fine with me though, as I'd love to do another Lloyd in the Autumn mottle camo as well. :) In any event, I'm really using the Lloyd scratch project to learn some new skills and experiment a bit. It will be far from perfect (assuming I actually get it to all fot together and stay that way!), but it's really a learning project anyway.
Regards,
Bob
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I have heard it said that WNW are against releasing a kit of anything that has been done by other manufacturers. Make's sense but it didn't stop them realeasing a Sopwith Triplane in the face of Roden (which I understand isn't a bad kit in itself). It's claimed that the Hobbycraft Camel is why they haven't released on of their own although I read that the HC Camel is a dog. Anyone able to comment on that?
Graham,
I have been pondering the Hobbycraft Camel "thing" for some time. What I've been told (here and elsewhere) is that it depends on which release you are talking about. Bottom line is that the "New tooled" versions of the Kit are pretty good and all others really awful. The new and desirable ones are packaged as Kit Number 1693 LeRhone Version or Kit Number HC 1694 Clerget Version. I have the Clerget one in my stash and have the LeRhone one on hold with another member here. The Kit I have looks pretty good, not WNW standard but the moldings, rib tapes and surface detail look as good as any Roden Kits I've got. It will require some additions as the cockpit detail etc is pretty sketchy. Several of our members here have done these kits up beautifully, I believe Des has one in completed Models Section.
This is my understanding of the quality of these kits, I havn`t built one to date. Anyone else got info, thoughts, or corrections ???
The reason I`m `stashing`these two Kits is I really want a Camel or two in my 1:32 collection at some point, and there doesn`t seem to be any great rush from WNW or Roden to release one.
Hope this helps,
Cheers,
Lance
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My only question is - Is the Academy kit the old mold or new one? I know Academy and Hobbycraft share molds.
Steve
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I'm nowhere near qualified to opine on the subject, but I found this on "the Internet" so it must be accurate, right?
http://hsfeatures.com/features04/camelcompbb_1.htm
Now, where to find these kits...
LT
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Thats a useful link thanks, I see it's dated 2005 so hopefully any HC Camels still around are the new mould, mind you I don't recognise either of those boxes. :-\ :-\
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The Academy version is the old mould unfortunately. I managed to pick one of the newer ones up from Ebay France last year (I've just checked there isn't any more).
I'm sure WNW will produce one at some stage, maybe if I start mine that will speed up their release. :)
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Thanks for the Link, Lindsay. I was fortunate to get the Le Rhone Kit mentioned in the article so now have both; as soon as I start one WNW will release a Camel for sure! Looks like the interior will be a complete scratch build, should be fun as well as a real challenge.
Cheers,
Lance
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Thought I'd update the list of WNW models and numbers so we can speculate all the more ;)
32001 - Junkers J.1
32002 - LVG C.VI (Sold Out)
32003 - SE.5a 'Hisso'
32004 - Bristol F.2b Fighter
32005 - Gotha G.IV
32006 - Pfalz D.IIIa
32007 - DH.9a 'NINAK'
32008 - Sopwith Triplane
32009 - Albatros D.V
32010 - Hansa-Brandenburg W.29 (Sold Out)
32011 - Fokker D.VII (Fok)
32012 - RE.8 'HARRY TATE'
32013 - Sopwith Pup RFC
32014 - FE.2b (Early)
32015 - Albatros D.Va
32016 - Sopwith Pup RNAS
32017 - UNKOWN
32018 - Fokker E.II/E.III (Early)
32019 - Pfalz D.XII
32020 - Sopwith Snipe (Early)
32021 - Fokker E.1 (In Development)
32022 - Roland D.VIa
32023 - Rumpler C.IV (Early)
32024 - Hannover Cl.II
32025 - FE.2b (Late)
32026 - UNKOWN
32027 - Fokker D.VII (Alb)
32028 - AMC DH.2
32029 - Fokker E.IV (In Development)
32030 - Fokker D.VII (OAW)
32031 - Fokker D.VII F
32032 - UNKOWN
32033 - UNKOWN
32034 - UNKOWN
32035 - UNKOWN
32036 - UNKOWN
32037 - Rumpler C.IV (Late)
32038 - Salmson 2-A2 (In Development)
32039 - UNKOWN
32040 - UNKOWN
32041 - UNKOWN
32042 - UNKOWN
32043 - UNKOWN
32044 - UNKOWN
32045 - UNKOWN
32046 - UNKOWN
32047 - UNKOWN
32048 - Fokker E.III (Late)
32049 - UNKOWN
32050 - UNKOWN
32051 - UNKOWN
32052 - UNKOWN
32053 - UNKOWN
32054 - Sopwith Snipe (Late)
32801 - UNKOWN
32802 - E.III & DH.2 "The Duellists"
NOTES: We can assume the existence of UNKOWN kits due to the model numbers for the Duellists (32802) and the other announced kits. Also, lets not forget there is a Camel somewhere in the future...
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Im gunna bet 39 and 40 are Camels - just for s and g's
Steve