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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Bughunter on April 29, 2020, 06:38:27 AM
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A small riddle
What's this? Yeah, it's real wood, I can tell. And 1/48.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1ogSM5sUYUK8ey1w5kYzVT65dYe5CW-KQ)
To easy for all you experts ...
I will be enhanced/changed to a build report soon!
Cheers,
Frank
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I have not a clue.
Ryan
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If it's a hydrofoil-boat it's in the wrong forum, so I guess that is't it... Don't really have a clue either. I shouldn't have read this message before going to bed, as I'm puzzled now! ;D
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Sopwith Triplane Struts 8)
RAGIII
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hmm... that seems plausible Rick, I will throw in a second vote for that.
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Sopwith Triplane Struts 8)
RAGIII
And a third vote. They look gorgeous; lovely, subtle, in scale wood grain. What materials did you use Frank?
Cheers,
BC
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And a forth one :)
Terri
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Sopwith Triplane Struts 8)
RAGIII
One more vote for Sopwith tripe!
Giuseppe
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Don't know what it is Frank but I sure would (wood!) like to know which wood it is!
Stephen.
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And yet another vote for the tripe. Struts look greats!
Cheers,
Bud
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Oh yes Rick and all the voters - that was a direct hit! The next project should be a Sopwith Triplane!
Thank you all!
What materials did you use Frank?
Don't know what it is Frank but I sure would (wood!) like to know which wood it is!
Brad and Stephen, this should be pear. May be it is swiss pear, also known in german as 'Elsbeere', which my dictionary translates to 'service tree'.
After a discussion with Stephen about my Albatros Dr.I and Triplanes in general, and Andreas/Borsos with question about PC12 and his Pup, some Triplane build here and more forced me to put the Sopwith Triplane from Eduard in 1/48 near to the bench!
I want to finish running things first, but some planning can be done already and that was the reason, why I showed this wood work already.
Some time ago I bought the kit in used condition, but it looks like it was not stored very dry, so the decals are no more usable. The kit is 8077. Additionally I own the AeroMaster decal set Triplanes Part 2.
BUT: both do not allow the N533 'BLACK MARIA' which I would prefer.
I know, it is often built, but the black cowling, wheels and fin with PC12 would be a nice variation in the cabinet.
I can mask the "C"s, but this little white 'BLACK MARIA' is to small for my cutter.
So my question: Does anyone have this white lettering to spare? (2 times, left/right)
If I can't do this machine, I have to build another one, but I need to respect this in early state, because the N533 has two Vickers.
Cheers,
Frank
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As always I will be following along! Looking forward to the next step!
RAGIII
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Would you like a set of pheon decals 1/48 decals free of charge?I have a set minus 2 roundels. Message me your details if so. I love to see a Triplane!
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If you want to see what Richie's offering, here it is:
https://www.pheondecals.com/48004-sopwith-triplanes.html
pretty generous, Richie!
Cheers,
Bud
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Frank , let me check my stash and see if I still have them , if so they are yours for free .
You will enjoy the kit . Built one already with another waiting in the stash so will be following this when you get started .
Terri
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Thanks to the great helpful forum members the problem is solved in less then 24h - I hope I can fulfill the expectations with a acceptable Triplane ;)
Cheers,
Frank
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Thanks to the great helpful forum members the problem is solved in less then 24h - I hope I can fulfill the expectations with a acceptable Triplane ;)
Cheers,
Frank
Can I not finish a kit...of course it will meet expectations! :) (that was modification to the "does a bear shat in the woods?" joke)
Ryan
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Wow Frank, what a great start. I've spent 3 days trying to make 1/32 details and failed miserably so far. This thread shows what can be done beautifully in 1/48 so I'll use it as inspiration. This is going to be epic!
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Amazing detail work as always Frank! The Machine gun jackets and barrels look awesome!
RAGIII
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As always Frank your modelling is of a standard which I can only dream about. I have to keep reminding myself that you are working in that very odd in-between scale and not the gargantuan one we normally see here (and which I too am working at the moment - but please do not remind the others!). The barrels of the gins and the propellor are just excellent and i really like that control stick.
Stephen.
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Awesome work on the IP and all of the rest!
RAGIII
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Hi Frank! Fantastic work, as always!
Over in my Pup-thread you wrote that the larger WnW-models show details you could only dream about. That's probably true, but you're extremely good at making those dreams reality. Looking forward to more updates.
Take care!
/Fredrik
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Amazing detail work Frank, this is turning into a masterclass! :)
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Excellent work on the mods Frank , nice job on milling on the cockpit cab struts :)
Terri
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Fredrik is right about making dreams come true - you do it all the time in that strange in-between scale! Super IP na d the milling of the wood is another step which I for one can only (still) dream about.
Stephen.
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Thank you Rick, Fredrik, Richie, Terri and Stephen! I'm glad that you like my work!
Over in my Pup-thread you wrote that the larger WnW-models show details you could only dream about. That's probably true, but you're extremely good at making those dreams reality.
Fredrik, I mean those small inconspicuous details like the great rib tapes on your Pup. In that quality it is hard to replicate by myself.
Super IP na d the milling of the wood is another step which I for one can only (still) dream about.
That was done with the super small milling machine Proxxon MF70. May be a wish for next X-mas? 8)
Next update soon,
Frank
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I like the results of your afternoon session very much Frank. That Small Stuff engine is amazingly detailed and you've certainly done it justice. Definitely EPIC so far! ;)
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I don't think Anyone does better Engines than you Frank! Superb detailing and the painting is Magnificent!
RAGIII
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Thank you Richie and Rick!
A Small Stuff engine come safely packed in a small Zip bag, which contains smaller bags with the parts and a folded A4 sheet with manual. This manual is enough to build the engine, but on all manual sheets is a link, which I suggest strongly to follow! It makes the build much easier and has also tips for painting. Here it is:
https://www.smallstuffmodels.com/p/buildinganengine.html
I followed it, so praise goes to Small Stuff!
Cheers,
Frank
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Lovely engine Frank. Those Small Stuff engines really are the dog's bo...ks - I have used some in the True Scale and am amazed at the amount of detail that they contain. You have painted yours to look extremely realistic and it will look very well indeed on the finished model.
Stephen.
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Thank you Stephen!
In God's own scale the build is a bit easier because the valve rockers and cylinders was an one piece affair, at least on the type I have build for my Fokker E.V Stripdown. That was my only 72 Small Stuff engine until now.
Different subject:
The Triplane has a more square clear inspection window in the middle of the upper wing. Does anyone has a picture of the layout inside? I guess two pulleys, but I have no clue how.
Thanks!
Cheers,
Frank
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Hi Frank, onthe Vintage Aviator website there is a walkaround of a replica of the very air frame you are modelling. Their site is a bit odd as I can't copy a link or download the photos. There is a photo of the lower wing inspection window and pulley which must be similar to the top wing.
Lots of detail shots there for you to look at. If you go on my Flickr feed, I took loads of detail pictures of the Shuttleworth Triplane just before lockdown. Sadly only on a camera phone. Some might be of interest to you.
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Ah, I see what you mean. Will see what's suggested on the WNW 1/32 tomorrow.
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Hi Frank,
The centre window appears to just have a single wire with a turnbuckle in the middle.
Here's my WNW top centre port.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49939240212_1491eaeba8.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2j5XEfY)20200526_153124 (https://flic.kr/p/2j5XEfY) by Richard Williams (https://www.flickr.com/photos/187004837@N07/), on Flickr
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That engine looks quite nice!
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Thank you!
Richie, that picture helps a lot!
On scalemates there is a 1:16 kit of the Camel, the manual of the kit can be downloaded.
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/model-airways-ma1030-sopwith-camel-f1--158232
And inside the is a drawing showing the aileron control. Ok, here we have a wing and two ailerons more, but the principle should be the same. So I wondered, what is there in the middle below the window. Now it is clear :)
Thank you very much!
Cheers,
Frank
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My pleasure Frank, always good to help a fellow modeller. You have inspired me to get on with my Triplane, I'm not at your level as modeller but your exquisite work has inspired me to improve. :)
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Very neat Frank, I'm loving seeing all these scratch built modifications you do. Good to see an update on this one too. I love the triplane, such a weird but elegant aircraft.
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Nice legs Frank :)
Terri
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Terrific work! I am just ending the reading of those 4 pages and all is delicious!
I take a seat with a lot of pleasure I have a Eduard triplane too to built!
Xan
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Very nice pinning, Frank. How in the heck to you pin such skinny parts without errors? I was trying to pin the LG of the 1/32 scale Roden Dr. 1 and completely messed them up.
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Thank you Richie, Terri, Xan and Gaz!
Nice legs Frank :)
Me or the model? ;D ;D ;D
Terrific work! I am just ending the reading of those 4 pages and all is delicious!
I take a seat with a lot of pleasure I have a Eduard triplane too to built!
Lovely words from a master! The kit was released 4 times, this is the latest from (2003), and I have another one with skies (1999). At least the PE is different.
How in the heck to you pin such skinny parts without errors?
Without errors? The wooden board shown on page 2 is in the bin ::) I destroyed it during drilling, of course only at the last hole. That is the advantage of real wood scratched parts - it is easy to be replaced by a new one :D
Cheers,
Frank
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Your usual outstanding work Frank! I Love watching your processes!
RAGIII
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The model Frank :)
Terri
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Your metal and woodwork are truly outstanding Frank. The undercarriage on this model alone will take it into another realm, but with all of the other detaisl you are in a class of your own.
Stephen.
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Inspirational, as always! Looks very nice!
/Fredrik
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Lovely details, even more then usual and we are talking about a very high standard!
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Your usual Outstanding work! Seat, Belts, floorboards, and interior framework are all terrific!. Actually, I almost forgot to mention that Pump!
RAGIII
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Frank you brilliant madman!!!! That is incredible, I keep having to remind myself that this 1/48! Shaping the pump handle out of brass, wow! ;)
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Thank you Rick and Richie!
The WNW kit manual was very helpful here, with the colored pictures!
What do you think Raymond will say to the mechanic when the tank is only half full? ;D
Cheers,
Frank
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Hey Frank I forgot to ask how you shaped the brass pump handle. Did you use a Dremel or good old fashioned hand files? I'm considering getting a Dremel.
Maybe Raymond is mad at the mechanic for not preparing Black Maria properly forcing him to return to base. :)
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Richie, the used brass profile was only 0,6mm thick, so it was easy to file in shape with some small diamond files. For such small parts I don't need a Dremel. The control during manual work is much better.
Cheers,
Frank
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All right Frank, just hold on a second. I gotta know how you did the seat cushion. "I made it from Miliput." You might as well have said. "I carved it from soft balsa." Just how did you get those creases radiating from each of the indented buttons? I have been able to shape a cushion and even poke indents in one, but never have I gotten the radiating creases. It really makes the whole seat even with the wide seat belt covering a good portion of it.
Before I forget, the other details are just first rate too. I especially like the pump and fuel gauge.
sp
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That cushion looks nice and comfy :)
Terri
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" I gotta know how you did the seat cushion. "I made it from Miliput." You might as well have said. "I carved it from soft balsa." Just how did you get those creases radiating from each of the indented buttons? "
He's a magician.
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Oh. OK. That 'splains it.
sp
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Thank you sp and Terri for your continued support!
Ken ;D ;D 8)
I gotta know how you did the seat cushion. "I made it from Miliput." You might as well have said. "I carved it from soft balsa." Just how did you get those creases radiating from each of the indented buttons?
Hmm, you know my solution is patented? Are you able to pay the license fees? ;)
I guess you know that epoxy putty?
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/716eHcvHMkL._AC_SX450_.jpg)
So I formed a thin flat piece after kneaded both components. With a cutter I removed the parts, which are to big, so you get the form of the cushion. That is easy so far. But now about the surface and the buttons ...
I have great respect for the artists who use such putty to sculpt a figure! I couldn't do it, so I have to let physics work for me 8)
I also found this by chance when I built my Albatros W.4. I had a very thin foil of a bag underneath (I mean really thin, e.g. a small transparent bag from the supermarket for fruits and vegetables or a garbage bag. My digital measuring slide says 0.01mm!) to not dirty my workbench. Then I also put the foil also on top and pressed the small ball of milliput flat. And I noticed that when I pressed the recesses of the buttons with a toothpick, the foil warped and creased just as the surface of the seat cushion would have done realistically. This only works if the milliput is still very soft and fresh, after half an hour, for example, it is already to hard. Let it for a moment and then remove the foil. If you do not like it, roll it to a ball and try again, a bit of experimenting is needed.
I hope, my explanation is clear enough, otherwise I will try to make pictures.
Back to the licence fee: If we ever get together, you can buy me a beer 8)
Cheers,
Frank
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Hey, Hey, You're on for the beer Frank.
That was the only way I thought it could be done by covering the cushion and the poking the indents. Only thing I am bot too clear on is the foil you describe, Al foil or that silver mylar looking stuff?
Thanks for taking the time to explain.
sp
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That's really nice detail work, Frank!
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Ah,, I see. Thanks Frank. Now I have to start a new model to try out you seat cushion technique.
sp
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Just amazing! You even used the right number of layers for the rudder pedal, doesn't matter if it is never seen again. We've all seen it and you had great fun making it. You're adding more details than I had in my 1/32 WNW kit. This is amazing modelling, thanks for keeping us all entertained!
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Are you kidding me! Those inner details look fab, Frank! Those brass bezels... be still my beating heart!
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Eye candy !
Excellent work Frank , shame that the rudder bar can't be seen , but it is there ;)
Terri
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Rudder bar, IP, and all of the other details are Amazing Frank! Brilliant as always!
RAGIII
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As always I really have no words to convey how impressed I am with your scratch built details in this scale! Amazing!!
RAGIII
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Remarkable precision on those tiny tailskid parts Frank. You need to grow an extra set of arms so you could hold a camera and take photos while you work on them so we could all see how it is done. That tailskid is as inspiring as a great work of art and as challenging as a mail gauntlet in the teeth.
I have tools that can hold tiny flat pieces of brass so they can be filed and otherwise worked on, but the small files I have are simply too rough. What kind of files do you use for this sort of work?
I made a working tailskid on a RC model, a Strutter IIRC, Got lots of wows under the pavilion, but it didn't survive the first bounced landing. Nice to know this one won't face any bounces.
sp
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Wow Frank, you've raised your game yet again. All these amazing little details you add are just mind-blowing. That tail skid has so many details in such a small space. Just brilliant!
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Those are astonishing levels of detail Frank, particularly in 1/48 scale. It doesn't get any better than this! Very well done.
Best regards,
Bob
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Wow! Love the scratch work! Just amazing!
Gaz
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For some reason, I am unable to see your tailskid pictures, but I am satisfied with your explanation:
"The tail skid was made from wood and I scratched and soldered some brass parts."
I can imagine how it looks.
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Thank you very much Rick, sp, Richie, Bob, Gaz and Ken for your time to answer!
The tail skid was a bit easier because I have done nearly the same some time ago on my Sopwith Pup. Both are very comparable here, only the spindle was a new feature of the Triplane.
I have tools that can hold tiny flat pieces of brass so they can be filed and otherwise worked on, but the small files I have are simply too rough. What kind of files do you use for this sort of work?
To answer this I opened a new thread, since this is independend of this project and more general:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=11323.0
@Ken
I only know of some Safari versions on iPads have a bug and do not show the Google pics included in text, but can load the links explicitly.
All other browsers should work.
Cheers,
Frank
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More super progress Frank, you are spoiling us with these great updates! The revised turtle deck looks so much better, when I saw the pictures of the original I thought, 'Yuk, I hope he does something about that' and hey presto a brilliant revision appears. I'm enjoying this build almost as much as you are! ;)
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Even More Amazing detail Frank! You are a Master, as I have said before!
RAGIII
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I get more amazed with each update!
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Nice job on the tail skid and the tail end . When I built mine I re-skidded the turtle deck the same way and made the mods to the rear part of fuselage . Excellent modeling Frank :)
Terri
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Fantastic detailing Frank, and a lot I would hesitate at attempting in the next larger scale. Very impressive and another magnificent Build!
Cheers,
Lance
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Very very impressive to read those six pages!
I have a triplane to do and this built will be, without any doubt, my ultimate reference...
Congratulations, all details are very smartly done and thresult is outstanding!
Xan
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It is always fun to read your answers Richie, Rick, Gaz, Terri, Lance and Xan! Highly appreciated!
Welcome to show, Xan. I hope the six pages as once was not shoking ;)
The triplane is too beautiful not to have it in the collection!
Cheers,
Frank
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great work on those details, and the turtle deck mod was a vast improvement.
I can see the pictures now. Maybe the hosting site was down for maintenance?
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I am catching up Frank, having been away and therefore have just spent the last 15minutes looking at the wholly amazing extra details that you have added to the cockpit and tail. It is so sad that they will not be seen and admired by others - just another very good reason for you to build a partial strip-down model!
Stephen.
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Thank you Ken and Stephen!
The pics are hosted by Google itself 8)
In meantime I have started to prime the fuselage and then I have to add a lot of PE details ...
Cheers,
Frank
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Ahhhh, here he is.
As always, a really excellent job. The level of detail can hardly be increased. Although ? Frank sure has something in his quiver ;)
matz
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This account looks very familiar to me :) Welcome to the show!
Thank you very much for registering, because I haven't read anything from you for a very loooong time.
Cheers,
Frank
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Looking all set to go Frank, I love those little pulley holders you made. Looking forward to seeing some paint on now. This is going to be a glorious Tripehound!
There is a small detail missing on the underside that you might wish to add and knowing how crazy you are, I think you will! ;)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49863918071_023584c690_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iYiBBn)Shuttleworth Collection Sopwith Triplane replica Dixie II (https://flic.kr/p/2iYiBBn) by Richard Williams (https://www.flickr.com/photos/187004837@N07/), on Flickr
Hope the picture is useful.
Richie
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Thanks Richie, also for the picture!
Yes I know, there is something to do, but the front will be primed black and is not detailed up to now. I found the needed PE parts on the Camel set.
Cheers,
Frank
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Hey Frank , might be a bit of work but the end results are worth it . Beautiful job on the paint work :)
Terri
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Superb detailing and painting as always Frank! Looking Terrific!!
RAGIII
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That is definitely a beautiful paint job Frank. You have every right to be pleased with yourself.
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Lovely lovely work, Frank 8)
Always a pleasure viewing your progress.
Cheers,
vB ;)
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Lower surface excellent.
Paul
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Wow! Too stunned for much else!
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Thank you Terri, Rick, Richie, Bob, Paul and Gaz!
Hmm, a day later I would say the last airbrush stroke was to much on lower surface ::)
As often it looks more transparent if the paint is wet so it is easy to apply to much so this nice structure in the dark area is mostly covered.
But it is still ok and I let it as it is.
Cheers,
Frank
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Hmm, a day later I would say the last airbrush stroke was to much on lower surface ::)
As often it looks more transparent if the paint is wet so it is easy to apply to much so this nice structure in the dark area is mostly covered.
But it is still ok and I let it as it is.
Cheers,
Frank
Just My opinion but I think you have things just right. More contrast in scale May have been too much.
RAGIII
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That is the first shade of PC12 that I have seen that I can say I really like. The shading is just extra eye candy. What, no zert fitting or oil cup to lube that engine bearing ;-)
sp
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That hurts , sorry to hear Frank , but I know you will turn it around like it never happened . Nice fix on the cowl to get the engine seated correctly so she can spin . That is one verrrry thin cowl , excellent work on thinner it out . Looking forward to your next update .
Terri
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I am sure you will repair these little failures with paint, Frank. I can assure you, it happens to us all, only that not everybody is ready to admit it (now you know :) ).
And all around - the spectacular work, as usual from your bench.
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Good work all around, Frank. That primer failure creates a great heavily weathered effect. Too bad its not appropriate for this model.
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Sorry you've been having troubles in life and at the bench Frank. I love what you've done with the tail fin and the cowling. A free spinning rotary engine will be totally cool! The primer problem and little masking troubles are nothing your great skills can't fix. It's good to see you back! :)
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Thank you mates!
That is the first shade of PC12 that I have seen that I can say I really like.
That is PC12 straight from the MRP bottle :)
Nice fix on the cowl to get the engine seated correctly so she can spin .
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A free spinning rotary engine will be totally cool!
That is a feature of most of my models, the rotary engines turn with the airscrew, or the airscrew alone in case of in-line engines.
It makes packing the models for exhibitions and handling of the model more safe.
I am sure you will repair these little failures with paint, Frank.
That is my hope too!
That primer failure creates a great heavily weathered effect.
I was able to remove the primer completely, so I will start from fresh here.
Cheers,
Frank
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Outstanding work on the engine and cowling attachment! All is looking great. The minor glitches in the roundel and tail were a small setback but it seems you have things under control!
RAGIII
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Glad to hear that you have things worked out and more excellent progress , beautiful work on the undercarriage legs . Looking forward to the rest of decals being applied :)
Terri
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As all of your models, it wasn't for the Euro cent this also looks as a much bigger scale plane. I like colour shades and both engine bearing and landing gear are real clockmaker work. Very well done.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Wonderful to see a craftsman at work.!
I could never emulate this standard of modelling but I’m happy picking up some hints and tips along the way..
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The undercarriage is a thing of beauty Frank. Sorry I'm talking rubbish. The whole build is absolutely incredible. I'm really enjoying seeing this masterclass of miniature engineering!
Richie
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I have missed your updates Frank - now two appear out of the blue and I had taken my eye off the ball! The extra details that you are adding are truly some of the most impressive modelling that I have seen. The contrast between the different materials adds to the realism every time.
Stephen.
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Am I the only one who can't see the majority of Frank's pictures using Chrome or Edge? Is there an extension or secret setting that I need?
Firefox works, but that's not my default browser.
Thanks,
Gene K
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Awesome work on the Gear as always Frank! I never cease to e Stunned by your Brilliant builds!
RAGIII
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Am I the only one who can't see the majority of Frank's pictures using Chrome or Edge? Is there an extension or secret setting that I need?
Frank,
I can't figure out how you are hosting your image files - are your images linked from Google Drive? I ask because I can't get any advice trying to figure out my no-Frank-images-in-Chrome-and-Edge problem ... and I'm really missing out on your great work!!
Thanks,
Gene K
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Looking forward to the rest of decals being applied :)
Thank you Terri, I'm on that way with a combination of decals and masking. More soon!
I like colour shades and both engine bearing and landing gear are real clockmaker work. Very well done.
Thank you Giuseppe! I'm not far away from a working clock in the cockpit ;D
I’m happy picking up some hints and tips along the way..
Thank you Ian! So it is worth the effort to write such a detailed build report.
I'm really enjoying seeing this masterclass of miniature engineering!
Richie, I don't know about masterclass (I do mistakes here and there) but for me such miniature engineering is pure fun, to understand the original aircraft.
now two appear out of the blue and I had taken my eye off the ball!
Stephen Sorry, I don't want to hurt anybody! I hope you're doing well!
I never cease to e Stunned by your Brilliant builds!
Thank you Rick. I hope you will like the next update too!
I can't figure out how you are hosting your image files - are your images linked from Google Drive?
Yes Gene, the pictures are hosted by Google. I don't know any setting or trick, that they are rendered into the including web page.
Here on my my private Linux machine it works on Firefox and Chrome, it works on a Android Tablet of my wife (Chrome).
On my Windows PC in the company it works on Chrome and Internet Explorer.
I only know a problem on some Apple iPads, where the browser is to old and do not load the pictures into the webpage (but can load the single pictures).
Is your Chrome up to date? 81.xx or newer should work.
You can try also a reply on my posting, so you see the source code. Copy a link between two IMG-tags into the address line of the browser. Does it work then? if yes, I see no reason, why it is not rendered into the web page. Slow connection, reload?
Cheers,
Frank
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Lovely work Frank, your modified kit tailplane looks much better than the resin part. A happy accident with the primer then!
The black C on the lower surface looks great too, it brings a lot more interest to the beautifully painted underside.
I wouldn't use the Special Hobby wheels, in England they are TYRES not TIRES which is an American spelling and i believe Palmer tyres were made in London.
I expect you already know that though! :)
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Yes Gene, the pictures are hosted by Google. I don't know any setting or trick, that they are rendered into the including web page.
Thanks, Frank, and sorry to break in and disrupt with my problem ... which is obviously peculiar between my Edge/Chrome and your Google Drive links (I can see your Flickr links). I'll have to check in periodically with Firefox.
Gene K
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A nice update on the tail, Frank.
As far as the wheels, do you have a Palmer tyre decal that could make option B a consideration?
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Fine progress. The tail looks great.
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Crisp detail and beautiful painting! The painted lettering and numbers are perfect !
RAGIII
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As with all of your Modelling Frank, this is flawless. Personally I would go for option c for the wheels and leave the Gaspatch wheels for another project where you know that the aircraft had the wheel covers removed.
Richie is correct to point out the spelling error - Gaspatch have the correct spelling on their moulds
Stephen.
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I was just about to go look up the Palmer Chord add in the 1919 Janes book, but you beat me to it :-)
sp
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Wow Frank! It's hard to believe that's 1/48--it is far more detailed than my 1/32 WNW model of the same aircraft! You have done a marvelous job with the details and finish on this Tripehound. I particularly like the tires, tail skid and engine (actually, everything else as well!). Very pleasing and enjoyable for we fans watching from home. ;D Nicely done!
Best regards,
Bob
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Frank,
The plate on the engine cowling is so small that I would have difficulty seeing that with my eye loupe (magnifier)! The amount of detail that you add to your models just takes my breath away every time I look at you updates.
Hope we like it? What a question to ask!!!
Stephen.
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Ich liebe es Frank !
Terri
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Frank, your ability to hold and work on such tiny pieces amazes me, Be very nice to your fingers.
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Lots of small details here.
But that's Frank's forte.
Is that engine cowling plate upside down?
Just kidding ;D
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Thank you very much!
It's hard to believe that's 1/48--it is far more detailed than my 1/32 WNW model of the same aircraft!
Bob I swear, that's 1:48 as all my bi- and triplanes :)
The plate on the engine cowling is so small that I would have difficulty seeing that with my eye loupe (magnifier)!
Stephen I must admit, that this was not foreseen as own part on the Parts PE set. It was attached to the cowling ring. But since I had the appropriate dark ring form the kit PE already on I cut the plate from the ring to mount it alone.
Ich liebe es Frank !
Vielen herzlichen Dank Terri!
Frank, your ability to hold and work on such tiny pieces amazes me, Be very nice to your fingers.
For those parts I use a very small "Zeckenpinzette" - Tick tweezers? I don't know, if the one in the picture is also that small, but the layout is comparable.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51QesnLDnSL._AC_SX355_.jpg)
Picture: amazon.de
Is that engine cowling plate upside down?
;D ;D
Today I tried to mount the wings, so I had to do a lot of preparation with drilling holes for the rigging.
After the middle wing was glued in place, I noticed later with dry fitting the upper wing, that the middle wings are sitting to low :-[
Since the mm was missing below it increases the distance between middle and upper wing about the same amount, so it was immediately noticeable if one look at it.
What did my math teacher used to say? "Symmetry is the aesthetics of primitives." So I broke out the middle wings again.
One step forward, two steps back.
Cheers,
Frank
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Amazing details you have added Frank, I was thinking the same as Bob. It looks more detailed than my 1/32 WNW Tripe.
Like any other step back I know you will fix the middle wings and come back with another stunning update. I'm really enjoying seeing this little masterpiece come together. :)
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Every update Amazes Me more Frank! Such precision in details and painting. Simply Gorgeous work on all!
RAGIII
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Great detailing work, every single item is a gem. Congrats.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Thank you Richie, Rick and Giuseppe!
It looks more detailed than my 1/32 WNW Tripe.
I'm sure, WNW has moulded details which I cannot simulate. The Eduard Triplane is a nice kit, and with some additions I try to enhance it further.
The bird has now 3 wings and the rigging is finished 8)
Need the process pictures and write some notes, so stay tuned for the next update ;)
Cheers,
Frank
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Frank,
I always look forward to your updates. This build just keeps getting better!
Kevin
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I could have used you to help make SPAD XIII fittings for MY builds!! Like I said, More amazing with each update!
RAGIII
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Great rigging Frank, I'm so looking forward to seeing the finished model. This has been one of my favourite build threads so far.
Was wondering if you could use the photograph of the Clayton and Shuttleworth logo to print decals. I've never done anything like that myself so I may be talking rubbish. ;)
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This has been one of my favourite build threads so far.
Wow 8) Thank you!
Was wondering if you could use the photograph of the Clayton and Shuttleworth logo to print decals. I've never done anything like that myself so I may be talking rubbish. ;)
I have clear and white decal paper for Laser, but my color laser is in trouble. It crashes if I try to print in color (have to switch off), but b/w still works perfectly. I tried once to print a airscrew logo on clear paper, but it was not really nice. 1/48 is really small. In this specific case it may work on white decal paper.
You can speed up the build of this triplane if you wear the right shoes! ;D
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0063/1219/8232/products/[email protected])
https://iloveahangar.com/collections/frontpage/products/sopwith-triplane-of-raymond-collishaw-inspired-mens-low-top-canvas-shoes
Cheers,
Frank
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Quick work on the rigging Frank , those attachment points I'm going to have to give them a try . Looking forward to the final pic's :)
Terri
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the rigging looks superb as does the rest of it, i doff my cap to your modeling skills 8)
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Love those shoes Frank!
Not a bad job on the tripe either! The rigging terminals are stunning.
Guy ;D
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Sorry Frank but I can't see the error only a beautifully detailed and painted Triplane 8)
RAGIII
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Like Rick said, all I see is a magnificent Triplane. Bravo Frank, what a great job!
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error or not (and no, i can't see the error) it looks absolutely fantastic
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Nice model, Frank. I can't see any errors ( and I've built a few Tripehounds.)
Sandy
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I don't know if this is the error you are referring to, but I would have painted the underside of the wings differently.
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That is a superb model Frank. I wonder how many people will actually notice the error which you have pointed out? I'll bet that there will not be many - the, like me, will be too busy admiring all the super details that you have added to be unduly worried about that!!
Stephen.
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That mistake is hiding in plain view. How many have not noticed? Me for one!
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Stephen and Ken, thank you for your comforting words!
The mistake is annoying nevertheless.
Lucky in misfortune that it happened on the lower wing. At the top wing the control wires come out directly behind the pulleys, it would have been harder to hide there.
On the lower wing, the pulleys are on top and the control wires below, so it's not so obvious ;)
Cheers,
Frank