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Re: Friedrichshafen FF.33L CHFT + Zeebrügge Rail Car
« Reply #75 on: June 07, 2021, 05:47:51 AM »
OK, so...

First of all the Herris book is saying, as already mentioned, that most FF.33E's were HFT type:



It also states Marine Number 841 (Wölfchen) being a HFT type:



Then there are a couple of the well known photos of 'Wölfchen':





It's not completely obvious, but when you know what to look for, I think it becomes quite clear that MN 841 which had wireless
installed was a HFT, and the HFT's had the wing tank. MN 725 is the first E with the type HFT and the last E HFT is MN 884.
Other types would have had the tank in the centre, right above the cockpit.

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Re: Friedrichshafen FF.33L CHFT + Zeebrügge Rail Car
« Reply #76 on: June 07, 2021, 10:09:48 AM »
Looks like I'm adding a wing tank to Wulfchen after all . Thank very much Kent for this  :) Big hug !


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Re: Friedrichshafen FF.33L CHFT + Zeebrügge Rail Car
« Reply #77 on: June 07, 2021, 06:03:30 PM »
That over wing filler - I suspect it is actually an air vent with a cover. Have a check of it from different directions, you may find it has a 'streamlined' shape

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Re: Friedrichshafen FF.33L CHFT + Zeebrügge Rail Car
« Reply #78 on: June 07, 2021, 08:06:15 PM »
Exactly...




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Re: Friedrichshafen FF.33L CHFT + Zeebrügge Rail Car
« Reply #79 on: June 07, 2021, 10:22:09 PM »
There you go - it's an air vent

I don't know this for sure, I suspect that tank was filled from the main tank by air pressure.

The engine has an air pump that pressurises the fuel tank to give a fuel feed to the carburettors. It would be pretty easy to switch the pipes around with valves to push fuel up to the wing tank instead

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Re: Friedrichshafen FF.33L CHFT + Zeebrügge Rail Car
« Reply #80 on: June 09, 2021, 04:51:33 AM »
Latest progress on the wings...



Bottom



and top of wings pre shading, before application of Naval Hex decals.

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Re: Friedrichshafen FF.33L CHFT + Zeebrügge Rail Car
« Reply #81 on: June 09, 2021, 06:55:08 AM »
Nice shading Kent  :)

And only hex loz on the upper side only and no rib tapes ?

Did FF do the taping like HB did by matching the tape pattern with the hexes ?

Thanks again for the info Kent , whether it is a tank or a vent with a cover it will be added to my wings .


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Re: Friedrichshafen FF.33L CHFT + Zeebrügge Rail Car
« Reply #82 on: June 09, 2021, 07:34:33 AM »
I'm enjoying seeing the meticulous research and preparation you put into your work Kent. I'm learning a lot about how top modellers to approach a project.

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Re: Friedrichshafen FF.33L CHFT + Zeebrügge Rail Car
« Reply #83 on: June 09, 2021, 09:09:04 AM »
I am liking the pre shading effects to date Kent. Looking forward to more!
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Re: Friedrichshafen FF.33L CHFT + Zeebrügge Rail Car
« Reply #84 on: June 09, 2021, 05:38:10 PM »
Thanks Richie and Rick, there is a lot of research going into this, the 'sources' are scarce.

And only hex loz on the upper side only and no rib tapes ?

Did FF do the taping like HB did by matching the tape pattern with the hexes ?

Alexis

The German Naval Hex pattern didn't have rib tapes Alexis.
I also suspect the FF.33L being one of the first to be camouflaged with it?

As I understand some of the Naval Hex patterns were 'painted' on in the beginning.



This photo seems to support that, looking closely at the pattern there is not only a difference in direction but also a
difference in size of the pattern. I believe the naval hex fabric was used on the fuselage and the wings Hex Pattern
painted on on top of the previous color? At least that's the theory



This 'pattern' has obviously given me some 'headache' but luckily Lukasz Sznajder has come to the 'rescue' and
offered me some assistance, printing hex patterns in different sizes, and I am looking forward to be trying them out on this built.

Cheers: Kent

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Re: Friedrichshafen FF.33L CHFT + Zeebrügge Rail Car
« Reply #85 on: June 09, 2021, 10:29:10 PM »
The Hex differences should make for an interesting and effective addition to your model!
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Re: Friedrichshafen FF.33L CHFT + Zeebrügge Rail Car
« Reply #86 on: June 09, 2021, 11:19:08 PM »
The Hex differences should make for an interesting and effective addition to your model!
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I just hope it will look something like the 'original'  :)

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Re: Friedrichshafen FF.33L CHFT + Zeebrügge Rail Car
« Reply #87 on: June 10, 2021, 12:12:32 AM »
That will be a feast to eyes watching you apply these decals
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Re: Friedrichshafen FF.33L CHFT + Zeebrügge Rail Car
« Reply #88 on: June 10, 2021, 11:19:50 AM »
Thanks Kent  :)


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Re: Friedrichshafen FF.33L CHFT + Zeebrügge Rail Car
« Reply #89 on: June 10, 2021, 11:32:52 AM »
I'm very much enjoying following this build, Kent. Great research and attention to detail. Love the paintwork!
Cheers,
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