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Offline IFF1418

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Re: Phönix D.I - Special Hobby1/48
« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2013, 08:44:25 PM »
Very very nice Antonio and very daring too.Your cockpit looks wonderful and the camouflage paint terrific.

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Patrick

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Re: Phönix D.I - Special Hobby1/48
« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2013, 08:55:20 PM »
Thanks Nigel & Patrick.

I feel very satisfied for the mottled camo.
Now I must replicate it on the fuselage...

Antonio

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Re: Phönix D.I - Special Hobby1/48
« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2013, 08:58:41 PM »
The mottled camo on the wings and tail turned out very well, it should look really good on the fuselage, hope your new sponge works well for you.

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Re: Phönix D.I - Special Hobby1/48
« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2013, 09:38:36 PM »
Antonio,
Nice work on the Camo. Looking forward to seeing the fuselage done!
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Re: Phönix D.I - Special Hobby1/48
« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2013, 09:42:17 PM »
Thanks Des and Rick...

I am now thinking about the best strategy to put the upper wing in a correct way.
I mean, normally I fix the struts which are straight or have a position that cannot be misinterpreted (for example the cabane struts of the ANSALDO SVA5) or the straight wing struts of the SPAD VII...
Then I take the correct measurement and proceed to work on the remainder of the struts shortening them or re building them from scratch if they are too short.

In this case I feel really puzzled: both the cabane and the wing struts are sloping, so I can't imagine a way to fix them without errors determining the position and distance from the lower wing...

Actually this is the most difficult step I find in builtding WW1 planes, I don't fear the rigging because I learnt how to manage it... but positioning the upper wing.... sh....t I have not yet developed a good technique...

Any suggestion on how to proceed ?

Thanks for helping!

Antonio

PS I know this is one basic skill and feel a bit uncomfortable asking this question...   :-[

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Re: Phönix D.I - Special Hobby1/48
« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2013, 11:05:13 PM »
Amazing work on the mottling, Antonio.  You really got that right!  As for the
placement of the upper wing, about all I can recommend is make a jig to
hold it at the proper angle.  I would think you could put one together from
cardstock or something similar.  Hopefully some of our other forumites could
come up with a better idea.  Sorry I couldn't contribute more. :-[

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Re: Phönix D.I - Special Hobby1/48
« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2013, 01:28:09 AM »
Antonio,
   Your work on the mottled camouflage is really impressive, it's coming together very nicely and your "sponge work" is brilliant.
   For the upper wing placement and angles I echo Ernie's recommendation, a Jig is the answer. Take a look at the info here on Jigs; there are good ones on the market and making your own is not that difficult. I use the Aeroclub Biplane assembly Jig which may not be available any more however I saw one for sale here in "Buy-Sell-Trade" a while back. A jig takes a lot of the effort and guess work out of setting the stagger angle and spacing up provided you have a good side view to measure the angle and/or spacing from. Constructing your own templates will help as well. Good luck with the rest of your Build!
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Re: Phönix D.I - Special Hobby1/48
« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2013, 04:53:16 AM »
Your mottle camo on the wing and tail surfaces looks amazing, Antonio.  I'm looking forward to seeing it on the fuselage.
Cheers,
Bud
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Re: Phönix D.I - Special Hobby1/48
« Reply #38 on: November 26, 2013, 12:36:16 PM »
Hi Antonio.

I like your mottled very much, looks quite nice.

Cheers

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Re: Phönix D.I - Special Hobby1/48
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2013, 04:11:53 AM »
Hallo,
some advances on the Phönix job.

Wood grain painted on the fuselage:







Wings, tail planes and camouflage applied to the fuselage:









Now I drilled holes in the wings and fuselage, where eyelets and buckles will go.

Next step will be to find a jig to put top wing in place... I am still thinking of a good solution... different from buying a sram doohickey

Ciao

Antonio
« Last Edit: December 03, 2013, 05:45:21 AM by andonio64 »

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Re: Phönix D.I - Special Hobby1/48
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2013, 05:07:45 AM »
Me Likey.

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Re: Phönix D.I - Special Hobby1/48
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2013, 06:11:43 AM »
Beautiful progress, Antonio.  Great job!

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Re: Phönix D.I - Special Hobby1/48
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2013, 08:23:34 AM »
Excellent progress, Antonio!  She's lovely.
Cheers,
Bud
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Re: Phönix D.I - Special Hobby1/48
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2013, 08:54:55 AM »
It promises to be beautiful.  :D

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Re: Phönix D.I - Special Hobby1/48
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2013, 09:20:15 AM »
You are making very good progress with this one Antonio, it's starting to really look the part now, keep those updates coming please.

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