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Re: WNW - New Kit Coming?
« Reply #105 on: April 22, 2018, 01:53:18 AM »
I was just washing 1/3rd of the sprues from my Albatros trilogy today.  I'm not overly-impressed with figures and decals.  Do I really want a fourth Albatros?  Decals for the Dr. I that I just bought?  Maybe.  But I don't want to do my Dr.I in red.  I'm really keen to try the Fokker streaking.

BUt I do have a Silhouette Portrait.  In theory I should be able to create any stencil. 

I'll wait til WNW broadcasts a price before I decide... 

then I'll probably get a Roden Pfalz...

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Hi GazzaS,
I have a 'Cricut Explore Air 2', which is a similar machine to your 'Silhouette' in what it can do.
However, apart from trying out the test pieces I've not really used it in anger yet.
Do you use it for masking templates/stencils etc for aircraft markings not provided as decals by anyone.
If so I'd be interested to know how you get on with it,

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Re: WNW - New Kit Coming?
« Reply #106 on: April 22, 2018, 06:49:21 AM »
I was just washing 1/3rd of the sprues from my Albatros trilogy today.  I'm not overly-impressed with figures and decals.  Do I really want a fourth Albatros?  Decals for the Dr. I that I just bought?  Maybe.  But I don't want to do my Dr.I in red.  I'm really keen to try the Fokker streaking.

BUt I do have a Silhouette Portrait.  In theory I should be able to create any stencil. 

I'll wait til WNW broadcasts a price before I decide... 

then I'll probably get a Roden Pfalz...

lol


Hi GazzaS,
I have a 'Cricut Explore Air 2', which is a similar machine to your 'Silhouette' in what it can do.
However, apart from trying out the test pieces I've not really used it in anger yet.
Do you use it for masking templates/stencils etc for aircraft markings not provided as decals by anyone.
If so I'd be interested to know how you get on with it,

Mike?

Hi Mike,
   I'm still pretty new to using the Silhouette, but as far as I can tell it's only limit is how the masking material reacts to being cut.  For instance, I tried to do some of the stencils and werke nummer for a 1/48 scale bf109.  The cutter cut the numbers which were only around 1.2mm tall.

However, numbers like 0,3,4,5,6,8, and 9 which have hollow centers, or lots of inner curves, had problems with the masking material lifting away from the backing and becoming distorted.  Letters and numbers around 2mm tall were not affected.

I have scanned old, yellowed decal sheets and imported them into the Silhouette library and made masks of the markings.  So, really you should be able to do any kind of mask you want whether it be a camo mask, or any markings as long as the masking material behaves.

Except for that, I can't think of any limitations other than the skill of the user.

Best of luck!

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Re: WNW - New Kit Coming?
« Reply #107 on: April 22, 2018, 06:52:49 AM »
But I don't want to do my Dr.I in red.  I'm really keen to try the Fokker streaking.

Then you are in luck!

DR.I 127/17



This isn't the all over red DR.I

Richard

Well Richard,
    It seems to be sorted for me already!  The next question is, which will come first:  The release of the new Alby or me putting together the Fokker?

Thanks friend!

Gaz
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Re: WNW - New Kit Coming?
« Reply #108 on: April 23, 2018, 03:34:50 PM »
So I don't know if I should be happy with the new kits or not. Seems they found a way to reissue the OOP kits. That is good for us, who missed to buy a DH2 or a Tripe. But on the other hand I was in hope of something really new. The poses of the Pilots are the same as those you can get from other manufactures. Only thing I hope is that they bring us some more figures we can buy seperate without a plane.
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Re: WNW - New Kit Coming?
« Reply #109 on: April 23, 2018, 04:11:48 PM »
Mike Good is one of the best figure sculptors in the world so I'm delighted Wingnuts chose him to do their ace figures. I hope the figures are also available separately, as a set or individually because I already have the aircraft kits and multiples of the Albatros.

It's great to see Wingnuts find a creative way to reissue sold out kits but in a new way that makes them more than reissues.

Yes we would love to see brand new kit subjects too but those who missed out on the Sopwith Triplane, Albatros and DH 2 will get another chance without being hit by unrealistic collector prices.

In the meantime we have a brand new kit hitting the market right now- the Junkers D1.

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Re: WNW - New Kit Coming?
« Reply #110 on: April 23, 2018, 06:37:18 PM »
Gaz:
Thanks for your input on the cutter - I'll try mine and see how it copes with small letters/numbers and shapes.

Dave:
I agree Mike Good is one of the best figure sculptors out there.  I also highly rate Steve Warrilow, Doug Craner and Benoit Cauchie, who sculpt for 'Wings Cockpit Figures' and also Martin Hille of 'Kellerkind Miniatures'.

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Re: WNW - New Kit Coming?
« Reply #111 on: April 24, 2018, 12:43:13 AM »
Mike Good is one of the very best sculptors and has produced numerous WWI figures over the years. His Eduard von Schleich and Werner Voss figures for Model Cellar are beautiful.
I also hope the WNW figures will become available to buy individually. Like many others I, too, already have the aircraft kits.

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Re: WNW - New Kit Coming?
« Reply #112 on: April 24, 2018, 01:52:37 PM »
 Another really good figure sculptor is Radek Tomanek from Black Dog.

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Re: WNW - New Kit Coming?
« Reply #113 on: April 24, 2018, 06:43:40 PM »
Hi Syd,
Yes totally agree - I have all of the Blackdog figures.
One thing I've noticed though from the various figure suppliers is that although they are all at 1:32 scale, there are obvious differences in the sizes of the figures.
Some are of a similar size, but others are noticeably larger, such as Troop54.
I appreciate that we are all not a standard size (I'm 6' 3"), but I think care is needed when using more than one figure against a model, just to keep it all in scale.

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Re: WNW - New Kit Coming?
« Reply #114 on: April 24, 2018, 07:04:52 PM »
This is a welcome initiative
I have the excellent Copper State crews and pilots and the figures are a great addition for any WW1 model  even if they are left in Grey.
Pity that some figures are depicted in a static pose.
I feel that the WNW figures are in a pose that is too classic. Anyway it will be a good chance to buy OOP kits

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Re: WNW - New Kit Coming?
« Reply #115 on: April 26, 2018, 07:37:09 PM »
Hi Folks,

It's been a long time since I've been able to build anything or participate in the forum, work, family and life doing their thing! I was stunned and upset to read
of Des's passing, I communicated with him on several projects and he was always so encouraging and supportive. So glad to see the forum is continuing in his memory.

I've just had the WNW news letter from Richard Alexander and it looks like the 'Sold Out' Albatros DV, DH2, Fokker EII and Sopwith Tripe
are going to be made available again for the 'single seater price' with the addition of resin figures of Richthofen, Hawker, Immelmann and Collishaw
to go with their respective mounts.

What do folk think about that? I cant' help but feel that 'Sold Out' should mean exactly that. Those that bought the kit originally then own something collectable and exclusive that will increase in value. Why don't they just release the figures? I saw a Sopwith Tripe go on ebay recently for over £200, but it looks like it will now be available again for the original price. That guy must be spitting feathers! I guess it comes down to how much you want something in your collection. It just goes to show these bidding wars for OOP kits need to be treated with caution as they will probably come back in another boxing later on!

Paul

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Re: WNW - New Kit Coming?
« Reply #116 on: April 26, 2018, 07:42:04 PM »
Sandbagger
That is an excellent figure scale size comparison “chart”: the most comprehensive one I have seen for 1/32.
I might try to do same thing for 1/48 figures, as I know from experience they vary enormously between manufacturers.

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Re: WNW - New Kit Coming?
« Reply #117 on: April 26, 2018, 11:34:37 PM »
Hi Folks,

It's been a long time since I've been able to build anything or participate in the forum, work, family and life doing their thing! I was stunned and upset to read
of Des's passing, I communicated with him on several projects and he was always so encouraging and supportive. So glad to see the forum is continuing in his memory.

I've just had the WNW news letter from Richard Alexander and it looks like the 'Sold Out' Albatros DV, DH2, Fokker EII and Sopwith Tripe
are going to be made available again for the 'single seater price' with the addition of resin figures of Richthofen, Hawker, Immelmann and Collishaw
to go with their respective mounts.

What do folk think about that? I cant' help but feel that 'Sold Out' should mean exactly that. Those that bought the kit originally then own something collectable and exclusive that will increase in value. Why don't they just release the figures? I saw a Sopwith Tripe go on ebay recently for over £200, but it looks like it will now be available again for the original price. That guy must be spitting feathers! I guess it comes down to how much you want something in your collection. It just goes to show these bidding wars for OOP kits need to be treated with caution as they will probably come back in another boxing later on!

Paul

WNW Never said that a kit would not be re released in another guise. In fact they said just the Opposite.  Only 2 people lose in a ridiculous E BAY frenzy purchase when kits are reissued in another guise. The E Bay seller who wants a huge profit and the Unwarry Buyer who pays a Big Price.  That being said the kits will never be re released at "Original Price" The original Albatros price was $59.00 US including shipping IIRC. This release will most likely be in the $99.00 range if I am guessing correctly . I personally LOVE WNW re release kits. A little different than the originals but still give an opportunity to get things you missed or want more of!
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Re: WNW - New Kit Coming?
« Reply #118 on: April 27, 2018, 12:21:32 AM »
I have zero sympathy for the pain this causes speculators and those daft enough to pay over the odds for a sold out kit. If you truly view these kits as collectibles then you'd want to collect the whole set anyway.

If you are buying kits to speculate... First, I thank you for helping WNW keep doing what they're doing. Second, it's called speculation for a reason.  If you didn't know the risk you're doing it wrong.

Doesn't have to end badly. Bandai announced winning the Star Wars rights right after I listed my Fine Molds Millennium Falcon, and it sold on the cheap. Turns out the guy who bought it is a massive WNW fan so not only did I get a new modeling buddy, I got a Biff on the cheap.

For those hoping for a separate release of the figs it's probably not necessary. A lot of people will be buying these just for the plastic.  A separate Collishaw posed identically next to all 5 Black Flight Tripes would look a bit off...

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Re: WNW - New Kit Coming?
« Reply #119 on: April 27, 2018, 01:47:30 AM »
......... I've just had the WNW news letter from Richard Alexander and it looks like the 'Sold Out' Albatros DV, DH2, Fokker EII and Sopwith Tripe
are going to be made available again for the 'single seater price' with the addition of resin figures of Richthofen, Hawker, Immelmann and Collishaw
to go with their respective mounts.

What do folk think about that? I cant' help but feel that 'Sold Out' should mean exactly that. Those that bought the kit originally then own something collectable and exclusive that will increase in value. Why don't they just release the figures? I saw a Sopwith Tripe go on ebay recently for over £200, but it looks like it will now be available again for the original price. That guy must be spitting feathers! I guess it comes down to how much you want something in your collection. It just goes to show these bidding wars for OOP kits need to be treated with caution as they will probably come back in another boxing later on!

Paul

Welcome back Paul.

As regards your point above:

There’s nothing wrong with someone paying a high price for a particular kit they want on eBay if it suits them nor is it wrong to profit from such a buyer - it’s just supply & demand.

Neither is it wrong if WnW release the kit in a different guise. They never claimed to be making ‘collectible kits’ - just limited edition kits - always making it plain that they intended to re-use the moulds for the de-luxe kit (different decal options in reality so far).

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Russell