Author Topic: WNW AEG G.IV (Late) 574/18 Canadian Aviation and Space Museum  (Read 64410 times)

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Re: WNW AEG G.IV (Late) 574/18 Canadian Aviation and Space Museum
« Reply #90 on: February 06, 2018, 07:54:35 AM »
Lance it’s a real pleasure for both Kevin and I to check in on your build and see your progress!!
If i recall right the Aviattic decals i used were all the clear version. I will check for you in a couple of days once i am back home and can access the “archive” where i keep the spare sheets and material related to previously completed builds!
Keep an eye out with how you want to cut the decals as the “lozenge” pattern changes around the tail horizontally and vertically. It should be visible on the wingnut wings painting guide page in the manual. I almost got caught out on this but managed to catch it last minute!
Kev and I are really glad to tag along for your build my friend!!
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Re: WNW AEG G.IV (Late) 574/18 Canadian Aviation and Space Museum
« Reply #91 on: February 10, 2018, 03:48:18 AM »
Geeeeez, Lance.  Looks like you could get in and fly away!  NICE job...Dan  8)

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Re: WNW AEG G.IV (Late) 574/18 Canadian Aviation and Space Museum
« Reply #92 on: February 10, 2018, 04:15:12 AM »
    Thank you for looking and for your comment Dan. I hope to restart this Build in the next week to 10 days.
Cheers,
Lance

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Re: WNW AEG G.IV (Late) 574/18 Canadian Aviation and Space Museum
« Reply #93 on: February 21, 2018, 01:13:13 AM »
     I rolled the Clerget Camel to the back of the hangar yesterday and re-started this project. Next in the sequence is the completion of both Daimler -Mercedes D.IVa Engines. I started by opening the breather holes on both sides of the engine (sumps?).



I hope to complete the model with at least one of the engines displayed without the cowlings installed thus I will be adding the Taurus resin details to the engines. The references state that the aircraft were often flown with the upper cowlings removed to reduce the impact of common overheating. Although the Kit engines are described as the D.IVa 260 HP Variants installed in the aircraft the Taurus set, used in both the excellent "How to Build" volumes I'm using, are labelled as D.IV's which were the earlier 200 HP Versions. I'm assuming the set applies to the former 260 version and at this early stage the pieces appear to fit just fine.



    In this last photo the Kit Rocker Box assembly is "posed" on the cylinder bank, the Taurus version with it's separate lifters, valve springs, and rods will be installed to replace it.



     So, here we go, an exercise in sub miniature detailing performed by two arthritic club fingered hands to add to the frenzy of modelling excitement here in the Great White North! As my good Buddy MGunns says, "exciting times I tells ya"!!
Cheers,
Lance

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Re: WNW AEG G.IV (Late) 574/18 Canadian Aviation and Space Museum
« Reply #94 on: February 21, 2018, 01:45:31 AM »
The aftermarket parts will certainly spruce up that engine! Looking forward to seeing it done!
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Re: WNW AEG G.IV (Late) 574/18 Canadian Aviation and Space Museum
« Reply #95 on: February 21, 2018, 01:53:53 AM »
Very nice!
I'll be adding the same parts to The Gotha .
There are some very good pics on WNW's site of these engines. Also on The Aerodrome forum Bertyl had supplied some good museum pics on the Gotha Slow Build thread.

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Re: WNW AEG G.IV (Late) 574/18 Canadian Aviation and Space Museum
« Reply #96 on: February 21, 2018, 02:05:38 AM »
Thanks for looking Rick. Steve, thanks as well. Did I read somewhere that the Gotha had the 200HP D.IV engines or did some have the IVa variant? I'll have to take a peek on the Aerodrome, I've gone through the others I think.
Cheers,
Lance

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Re: WNW AEG G.IV (Late) 574/18 Canadian Aviation and Space Museum
« Reply #97 on: February 21, 2018, 02:41:49 AM »
That super detail set looks mighty fine and will certainly add interest to the exposed engine.  I am sure you can pull it off Lance with no problem, previous comments not withstanding.  Looking forward to seeing the engines unfold as you work through the various phases of assembly.  As long as you keep the fun meter pegged to the right of zero, you will be fine. ;)  By the looks of where you are now, I would say that Modelmania is running wild in the Great White North and something is being done.
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Re: WNW AEG G.IV (Late) 574/18 Canadian Aviation and Space Museum
« Reply #98 on: February 21, 2018, 03:20:18 AM »
Thanks for looking Rick. Steve, thanks as well. Did I read somewhere that the Gotha had the 200HP D.IV engines or did some have the IVa variant? I'll have to take a peek on the Aerodrome, I've gone through the others I think.
Cheers,
Lance
So many changes occurring during this period in aviation development. There is most likely not a lot of VISIBLE diff in the engines. The extra HP could easily be from a change in camshaft lobe height and duration to get the extra HP. Gothas have the DVa engine sprue, and the same is supplied in the AEG kit with parts for the DV if that helps to settle things a little! * SAME ENGINE SPRUE IN THE AEG & GOTHA KITS*
Also the 'vents' cut into the engine sump (that would be the correct term) MAY have been glazed with some glass, to be used as viewing windows. A feature of early engines that was proven to be unnecessary. Look at the viewing window at the rear of the sump for checking the oil level.
If you think about the problems created by 2 holes , in the sump full of oil ,  the air pressure generated by the pistons downstroke would tend to evacuate the sump of oil, and the upstroke would create vacuum, pulling every bit of dirt in the area into the crankcase!
*AGAIN* just MY thinking based on watching the vent hose on Harley engines, and the amount of air pumped out of those. Certainly there would be an oil presence at the sump 'vents' if they were opened up.
Not meaning to sidetrack the work or effort here.
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Re: WNW AEG G.IV (Late) 574/18 Canadian Aviation and Space Museum
« Reply #99 on: February 21, 2018, 03:57:07 AM »
For a modeller with two arthritic club fingered hands I  think that you do rather well! That engine is looking fine at the moment, especially with those extras that you are going to add.

Stephen.

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Re: WNW AEG G.IV (Late) 574/18 Canadian Aviation and Space Museum
« Reply #100 on: February 21, 2018, 06:06:32 AM »
Moving along greatly, meant to add my compliments much earlier !

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Re: WNW AEG G.IV (Late) 574/18 Canadian Aviation and Space Museum
« Reply #101 on: February 21, 2018, 06:25:41 AM »
Looking forward to your treatment on these engines Lance.  I am sure they will be up to your usual outstanding standards.

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Re: WNW AEG G.IV (Late) 574/18 Canadian Aviation and Space Museum
« Reply #102 on: February 21, 2018, 06:31:15 AM »
Mark, I must admit the fun meter is pegged well over to the right, bench time has been somewhat limited the past several days and I am spending a lot of the available time going back and forth through the References......... all very enjoyable though.
Steve, I thought more or less the same concerning the vents however assumed the sump was partitioned to isolate the oil. On the other hand then why have the holes there at all? Since my mechanical knowledge is limited more or less to paying the mechanic to fix my truck I think I'll go with your theory of a glass viewing port!
Stephen, Juan, and Ed, many thanks for your great comments.
Cheers,
Lance

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Re: WNW AEG G.IV (Late) 574/18 Canadian Aviation and Space Museum
« Reply #103 on: February 21, 2018, 06:52:08 AM »
Make sure you add oil to that engine before you crank her over!
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Re: WNW AEG G.IV (Late) 574/18 Canadian Aviation and Space Museum
« Reply #104 on: February 21, 2018, 07:03:04 AM »
 The info is relevant only with respect to the weathering of the engine , partitions and baffles aside the crank is rotating right above the openings and there would be oil present. One would think....
There are 2 good pics of the engine in Mr. Rimells build book on the Gotha , one shows an oil sight glass that is not represented on the kit parts and will be visible.
Good show here and I'll be watching the engine details closely for The Gotha.