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Re: Fokker D.VIII Stripdown, Eduard 1/72
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2017, 06:24:02 AM »
Wow Frank, your skills with these strip down kits still amaze me (don't know why, when I have seen so many of your wonderful kits).

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Re: Fokker D.VIII Stripdown, Eduard 1/72
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2017, 06:29:30 AM »
Lance and Stephen, thanks! The "art of soldering" depends beside solder and flux on amount of heat and timing (to not get other parts to hot and reopen neighbour soldering points). For this you will need a lot of exercise. In usage of a iron I was drilled again and again during apprenticeship training as telecommunication technician 8) Later I studied electronics.

In meantime I can show a bit of progress.

Fuselage


Last time I fogot the seat support frame. I tried to add it, but it was smaller as the fuselage struts! So I filled the gap with solder.



For a robust fixing oft the wing a soldered the struts to the frame. This is important for me, since I take the models by car to exhibitions.



The front plate fits. After a washing with alcohol the whole frame was primed with Gunze Mr. Metal Primer.



I sprayed Gunze H70 grey green.



All the "rigging" crosses were painted with Gunze H213 Stainless. From outside it is a manageable task, but the inside .... You have to concentrate on the brush tip!



I forgot a picture of the gear. The lower wing is a plastic part, the struts PE. The plastic axles are ok for the full wheels, but of course to short for the spoked wheels. So I made new axles from 0.8mm nickel-silver pipes.



Finally I sprayed gear, cover and struts with Gunze H423 dark green.



I hope the oils on the "wooden" parts are hardened until Friday!

Cheers,
Frank
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Re: Fokker D.VIII Stripdown, Eduard 1/72
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2017, 08:12:53 AM »
Frank,
I am continuing to be blown away by your work on this one! Your skills at soldering and working with this small PE frame are incredible!
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Re: Fokker D.VIII Stripdown, Eduard 1/72
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2017, 09:51:27 PM »
It looks so easy, and fast when you do it. Great job.
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Re: Fokker D.VIII Stripdown, Eduard 1/72
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2017, 08:42:13 AM »
Thank you!

Marriage


The oils are dry so let's continue! The frame was a bit darkened with acryl wood colors, followed by Gunze Clear Yellow and varnish.



The kit still offers some small parts:



They are used to finish the floor assembly..



A friend showed my pictures of a museum machine, so I cleaned the tank further (removed additional solder) to get it back to brass.



Those parts are mounted into the fuselage frame:



The parts are still visible:



The gear is finished, wheels added and a rigging was done after that.



The painted sheets are mounted:





The guns are painted with Alclad Steel, with a touch of Alclad Gun Metal after that.



Gear and guns mounted, the small feeds are the last PE parts!



The wing was mounted, but I have to shortened the single lower strut, and the backmost single struts were far to long.



The marriage is done!



The Fokker is finished, only engine, cowl and airscrew are missing. This was really a speed build so far!
For the rotary I have a new package on my bench:



Yes, there are also rotary engines from Small Stuff in 1:72. I take this chance and try one of this small beast!

Cheers,
Frank
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Re: Fokker D.VIII Stripdown, Eduard 1/72
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2017, 08:54:38 AM »
I can't even begin to come up with superlatives that describe how impressed I am with this build! So just a  ::)
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Re: Fokker D.VIII Stripdown, Eduard 1/72
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2017, 01:32:55 AM »
I can't even begin to come up with superlatives that describe how impressed I am with this build! So just a  ::)
Thank you RAGIII, and for the next update you will need to fasten your seatbelts ;D
I'm not yet there .... but wild guesses are accepeted ;)

Cheers,
Frank
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Re: Fokker D.VIII Stripdown, Eduard 1/72
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2017, 02:32:38 AM »
Wow, this thread is really awesome, my hat is off to your skills, sir!

As I am heading for my first venture into the soldering kingdom, one question - how do you clean the joints after soldering? Meaning how do you remove the excess of tin?

Cheers

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Re: Fokker D.VIII Stripdown, Eduard 1/72
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2017, 04:50:52 AM »
Frank this is truly impressive work. The speed that you have made this is amazing indeed.

I can highly recommend the Small Stuff engines as I used one on my Caudron GIV scratch build. They are tiny and a bit fiddly but the amount of detail is stunning and they build into truly first class replicas. I just wish that there were more engines in the range so that I do not have to keep building them from scratch! This one will fit extremely well to your model.

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Re: Fokker D.VIII Stripdown, Eduard 1/72
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2017, 06:57:59 AM »
Wow, this thread is really awesome, my hat is off to your skills, sir!

As I am heading for my first venture into the soldering kingdom, one question - how do you clean the joints after soldering? Meaning how do you remove the excess of tin?
Such kind words form the master of micro modeling - Thank you!
I gob never with the tin-solder to the model, only a small amount to the soldering rod. The flux is on the model, so I haven't to remove much. If necessary I use a small square file or scraping with a scalpel.


I can highly recommend the Small Stuff engines as I used one on my Caudron GIV scratch build.
Stephen, all my 1/48 models with a rotary engine are equipped with a engine from Small Stuff models, they are fantastic. But this one here is my first 1/72, that is a completely different story!

I just wish that there were more engines in the range so that I do not have to keep building them from scratch!
I have it from a good source: you don't have to wait to long and we will see additonal types to the already nine available ones!

Cheers,
Frank
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Fokker D.VIII Stripdown, Eduard 1/72, Update 30.7.2017 Wooden air screw
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2017, 07:19:58 AM »
Air screw


I asked myself, if my method also works 1/72?
Let's try!
This Fokker needs a one from Axial. The wood veneer is sanded down, partly to 0,3mm. I used the layers pear-boxwood-pear-pear-boxwood-pear.



The sanding into the final shape could be done fast. Here the back side:



The air screw is only a bit longer then the fingertip of my trigger finger!



After primer and wood varnish I airbrushed a bit Gunze Clear Orange.



Again the back side:



Decals and hub parts added.



This is a D.VIII, which I used as inspiration:



Compared to Windsock-drawing ...



... and behind the plastic kit propeller:



Apropos finger: If one or other of you could not imagine the size of this Fokker, here is the machine on my trigger finger.



What do you think? Does my method work?

Cheers,
Frank
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Re: Fokker D.VIII Stripdown, Eduard 1/72
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2017, 08:24:08 AM »
I think it works very well, Frank! Great job! I think I need to learn how to make my own props - if I get them anywhere near your work I'd be over the moon.
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Re: Fokker D.VIII Stripdown, Eduard 1/72
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2017, 04:51:48 PM »
Brilliant, Frank, from the prop to the colors and the fuselage assembly. And I question myself: This guy is so fast - is he doing anything else but soldering?
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Re: Fokker D.VIII Stripdown, Eduard 1/72
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2017, 07:01:34 PM »
The prop looks very good, so obviously it is working. You definitely made the right choice on the boxwood and pear veneers, as the woodgrain is fine enough to look right even in this small scale. Good job!

One more question on soldering: is there any specific reason why copper tip is crucial?

Cheers

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Re: Fokker D.VIII Stripdown, Eduard 1/72
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2017, 09:31:07 PM »
One more question on soldering: is there any specific reason why copper tip is crucial?

Cheers

Ondra

Good conduction and fair corrosion resistance

Why do you ask? I doubt you'll find a soldering iron that doesn't have a copper tip

I have a little Antex iron that I use a lot. Mine is 25W which is good for the sort of stuff I do, you could manage with a smaller iron

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