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Offline uncletony

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Re: Albatros D I 1/32 Roden
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2016, 09:00:12 PM »
Hmmm that sure looks like a DV tank to me -- how can you tell this mess is a D.I/D.II?

At this point I'm going with the illustrations from Flight for mine...
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Re: Albatros D I 1/32 Roden
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2016, 10:12:12 PM »
I wrote an Email to craftlab and simply asked Koloman Mayrhofer for any information about an Albatros D I/II tank and that's one of the pics he kindly sent me. He told me that documentation about the Alb. D I in particular were sadly quite rare due to the short production time. I trust him and his knowledge to distinguish between the Albatros variants. And if you take a closer look at this pic of the Koloman Mayrhofer replic of a D II, you actually can see the soldering points and the roundness of the tank there too. It seems rounder to me than Roden's kit tank:

That leads me to the conclusion, that the tanks of the Albatros fighters probably werde of quite similar design and that the drawing in the Flight magazine just simplifies things a bit. But that's of course just my interpretation of this question...
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Re: Albatros D I 1/32 Roden
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2016, 10:46:01 PM »
Well, if Koloman says so...that certainly carries a lot of weight.  Still I don't quite understand how one can be sure the photo of the wreck is a D.I. Maybe there is some other evidence that supports it...?

If it is true, it seems you are right, there is no mystery to the shape of the earlier Albatros fighterrs' tanks - they are simply exactly like those in the D.V...
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Re: Albatros D I 1/32 Roden
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2016, 11:16:56 PM »
Quote from: Bo on April 14, 2016, 10:46:01 PM
Maybe there is some other evidence that supports it...?
Sadly not really. I've got this drawing that depicts the whole tank affair as almost circular:

At least it separates the oiltank and the fueltank clearly ("Beschläge" means fasteners...)
And here are three shots of a tank in an early Albatros fighter (straight sides, so no D V - but no idea where they came from), but sadly they do not show the underside/front. but again I (think I) see soldering points under the dust and two different tanks connected by fasteners.






Quote from: Bo on April 14, 2016, 10:46:01 PM
Still I don't quite understand how one can be sure the photo of the wreck is a D.I.

Me too. I have no idea. Without having done some research in Albatros tanks I think I for myself wouldn't have identified this wreck as an airplane at all... But I have seen specialists doing the most incredible things...
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Re: Albatros D I 1/32 Roden
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2016, 11:59:36 PM »
The color photos are the Canberra D.Va prior to restoration. There are no known earlier Albatros fighters surviving.
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Re: Albatros D I 1/32 Roden
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2016, 12:04:45 AM »
I m a little late here but wow you are making Awesome progress! As for the tank I think you have it nailed from what reliable info you have gathered!
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Re: Albatros D I 1/32 Roden
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2016, 12:23:50 AM »
Quote from: Bo on April 14, 2016, 11:59:36 PM
The color photos are the Canberra D.Va prior to restoration. There are no known earlier Albatros fighters surviving.
Ahem .. and I would have bet they were not from a D V because of the straight sides... well, to err is human, to Arrr is pirate...

Some minor progress on the kit: I scratchbuilt a compass, an item sadly totally absent in the Roden kit.

Thank you all!
Borsos

P. S.: Something I've forgotten: The inscription on the document (of unknown provenience) says "main fuel tank ... interchangeable between D II (that's what this paper talks about, look at the upper right corner) D I and D III". That would mean that at least Albatros D I-III had the same main fuel tank...
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Re: Albatros D I 1/32 Roden
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2016, 01:01:14 AM »
Outstanding compass!
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Re: Albatros D I 1/32 Roden
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2016, 01:08:28 AM »
Quote from: Borsos on April 15, 2016, 12:23:50 AM
between D II (that's what this paper talks about, look at the upper right corner) D I and D III". That would mean that at least Albatros D I-III had the same main fuel tank...

Yes, I had heard that -- but the revelation here to me is that the D.I/II/III tank is essentially interchangeable with the D.V/a tank!!! believe me, I've spent a long time studying the D.V tank, and the photo from KM really looks to me to be exactly like it. (we are looking at the back of it in the photo)




Anyway, not to sidetrack your build -- good stuff, Borsos!
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Re: Albatros D I 1/32 Roden
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2016, 01:37:41 AM »
Spectacular interior work, Borsos!  Truly inspirational!
Cheers,
Bud
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Re: Albatros D I 1/32 Roden
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2016, 07:34:50 AM »
Quote from: coyotemagic on April 15, 2016, 01:37:41 AM
Spectacular interior work, Borsos!  Truly inspirational!
Cheers,
Bud

Agree with my Amigo !

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Re: Albatros D I 1/32 Roden
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2016, 10:27:01 AM »
Outstanding interior Borsos.
Cheers
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Re: Albatros D I 1/32 Roden
« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2016, 10:56:47 AM »
Andreas,

This gets better with every post.  I'll echo the others: truly inspirational!

Chris
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Re: Albatros D I 1/32 Roden
« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2016, 08:17:55 AM »
Hello,
thank you very much for your kind words!
Bo, these are great pics of your shapeways tanks and when I'll be working on my D V I think I'll get one printed for me... :)

I'm back at the workbench and prepaired the engine for painting (they still need some strokes with sand paper here and there). In the end I used a WNW Mercedes D III and added some Taurus parts that fit the engine perfectly.

The parts with green stuff are Roden kit parts. They still need some filling and sanding before painting.
The Exhaust stack needs some minor rework to fit the WnW engine, but nothing really difficult to do.



Kind regards
Borsos
« Last Edit: August 08, 2017, 06:18:54 AM by Borsos »
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Re: Albatros D I 1/32 Roden
« Reply #44 on: April 19, 2016, 10:42:50 AM »
wonderful work borsos
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