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Offline BigBlue

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WnW Bristol F.2b Fighter
« on: April 01, 2016, 11:46:44 AM »
It has been quite some time since I posted any work here; time to get back on the horse.  This build has been underway since early March.... 2015.



I am guessing most of you know the kit, if not personally, then at least through a number of terrific build logs that can be found here in these forums.  I plan on finishing the aircraft's under-wing surfaces using Aviattic's beautiful RFC CDL decals.  Additional aftermarket items include Lewis MkII machine guns from Gaspatch (as well as their turnbuckles), the wicker pilot seat from Barracuda, and seatbelts from HGW.  This is my first 2-seater, and I have enjoyed it so far.  There is a lot to sink my teeth into on this build, and I expect it will test my abilities.

I am still undecided about the scheme I will represent (hey, it's only been 12 months).  I am thinking about making an attempt at A7182, the aircraft that Lt. Keith Park was flying for 6 of his 20 credited victories (including 4 on Aug 17, 1915), and have a nice profile in the "Bristol F 2 Fighter Aces of World War 1" book shown above.  Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any images of the aircraft, and so am uncertain about some of the details (single or double Lewis guns? Cooper rack? 2-blade prop as shown in the profile?).  I realize that some would take this as an opportunity to express artistic license, but I want to make sure I've exhausted all research options.  Any suggestions or information would be appreciated.

I know that there is a photo of Park posing in front of one of the aircraft whose markings are included in the kit's options (option D: "12", C814), but if he flew it, it didn't figure in any of his recorded victories.  If I do go this route, it will be the third build in a row where I have selected the box-art scheme for reasons having nothing to do with the box art.

Anyway, enough rambling.  Progress shots to follow.

Chris

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Re: WnW Bristol F.2b Fighter
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2016, 11:51:34 AM »


Ok, here's what I've done so far:




Nothing groundbreaking here. 

The wood work is dragged oils (the year of downtime on my modeling desk ensured they are quite dry).  It isn't particularly visible in the photos (and certainly won't be in the finished aircraft), but after the oils dried I hit the floor with some matte coat followed by a layer of hairspray prior to the clear orange topcoat.  Once dry, I tried to show wear and tear by rubbing off the "varnish" in certain areas with a wet cotton bud.  A bit of muddy pigment completed the look.  You can kind of see it in the first picture.

The pilot's seat is the low-backed Barracuda resin, and I fashioned the cushion out of plastic as Bertl so masterfully demonstrated in the expert building tips section.  Seat belts are from HGW.  This is my first experience with this product, and they are certainly easier to work with than trying to manipulate the photo etch.

I snipped of the ring style head on the control stick and replaced it with a knob made from a piece of Evergreen rod to match wartime cockpit photos (I based this on a series of photos in Issue 114 of WW1 Aero Magazine).  The trigger lever is a piece of leftover photo etch and a bit of scrap Evergreen.  I hollowed out the center of the Vickers mount, replacing the missing section of the cross bar with yet more Evergreen rod.   The leather straps on the magazines are Evergreen sheet styrene.  I added fuel lines to the mixer on the instrument panel using copper wire, and fashioned the connection at the under-seat tank using a bit of brass tubing and a Vector Cut hex bolt. 

I added a couple of additional wires/cables/linkages using fine wire.  The rigging is monofilament.  The two long lines will run outside the fuselage to the ailerons in the lower wing.  By the way, any advice people have as to how to achieve a taught connection with these would be appreciated.

That is where I currently stand aside from beginning paint work on various bits (guns, engine struts, etc.).  Next step is closing up the fuselage, which I have been procrastinating.  (I freely admit a dislike and lack of talent at filling and sanding seams, see my Eindecker build).  This accounts for at least some of my longwindedness tonight as it is allowing me to continue to put this off.     ;)

Thanks for looking in; comments questions and advice welcome.

Chris

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Re: WnW Bristol F.2b Fighter
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2016, 12:33:43 PM »
Great to see the progress shots of your build which to date is extremely well done, the interior work is superb with an excellent choice of colours. I built this kit when it was first released and in my opinion is still the best kit Wingnuts have produced. I look forward to following along with your build.

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Re: WnW Bristol F.2b Fighter
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2016, 08:23:09 PM »
Now this is a treat! I am really looking forward to your build
Chris. An excellent start, with the cockpit area...nice!
 I am never disappointed with your excellent work and
having a BisFit in the stash, yours will be a great help when
comes my turn.  Lead on, my friend! :D

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Re: WnW Bristol F.2b Fighter
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2016, 10:35:13 PM »
Thanks to you both for checking in.

Des, I am very familiar with your Bristol and have pored over that build log countless times.  It is a both a valued reference and great source of inspiration for me.

Ernie, I am always glad to have you on board.  Hopefully I can maintain sufficient pace to keep your interest!

Chris


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Re: WnW Bristol F.2b Fighter
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2016, 01:54:56 AM »
Beautiful start, Chris!  It was Des's build that inspired me to buy the Biff and from the looks of it, it'll be yours that will inspire me to finally build it.
Cheers,
Bud
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Re: WnW Bristol F.2b Fighter
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2016, 03:27:53 AM »
Outstanding cockpit work! I am looking forward to the next update!
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Re: WnW Bristol F.2b Fighter
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2016, 05:00:51 AM »
Magnificent work so far Chris, the cockpit component is outstanding! I built this Kit several years back, I still believe it is one of, if not THE best Kit produced by Wingnut Wings. For the Aileron wires I think I drilled through the lower wing where they enter the upper surface, same for where they exit below further out the span and filled it flush with CA. The only pitfall I encountered was mounting the lower wing on the frame members, take your time and be careful at that stage. Looks like you've got a real gem in the making here.
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« Last Edit: April 16, 2016, 04:37:32 AM by lcarroll »

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Re: WnW Bristol F.2b Fighter
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2016, 02:26:35 PM »
Bud, Rick and Lance, thanks for the comments, and sorry for the long delay in responding. 

I thought I'd post a quick picture to show that I have, in fact, been slowly chugging along on this:



Lots of work, but not too many additional steps completed.  Fuselage is closed up and the center seams have been filled, sanded and primed (the black in the photo above.)  I won't say I won that battle, but I've at least beaten them into modest submission.  I painted the leather and grey metal work before installing the cockpit assembly, which went in this evening.  I will need to do a bit of work to get the join where the cockpit floor and fuselage meet smoothed out, but I'll let things dry overnight first.  The wooden gunnery deck is just sitting in place for the moment.

In addition to the exhausts and crank case, I have painted all of the engine bits and assembly awaits.  I am still fumbling about for a strategy for the ignition leads so have been procrastinating a bit there.  The wings have had their upper surfaces primed (also black, their lower surfaces will get a lighter colored primer in anticipation of CDL), as have the prop, stabilizers, rudder, etc.  Struts have been wood-grained, and I've started work on painting the Gaspatch Lewis gun(s). 

I have also spent a LOT of time on my computer working on the artwork that I will send to my Silhouette cutter to cut the masks I am going to use for the aircraft's markings.  Perhaps taking my cutter enthusiasm a bit too far, I have also been scanning various kit pieces to make assorted other paint masks.  Give a man a hammer and everything looks like a nail....

Oh... I have chosen my scheme as well, and will be portraying 'A-7182', from the 48th Squadron.  As I mentioned in the opening post, this was the aircraft that Lt. Keith Park was flying on Aug 17, 1915, when he and his gunner, 2Lt Arthur Noss, were credited with 4 downed Albatros D.IIIs.  Other than the color profile in Guttman's Osprey book, I have been unable to find any reference materials for this particular aircraft, so I am going to have to make some decisions regarding the build.  Am I safe to assume that unless otherwise recorded, the gunner's standard armament for a Brisfit in September 1917 was a single, rather than double, Lewis gun?  Also, are there rules of thumb as to the likelihood of a 4 blade prop (Harry Dempsey's profile of the aircraft in the Guttman book shows a 2 blade prop), or a Cooper bomb rack (not shown in profile)?  If anyone more knowledgeable than I can educate me, I would be most appreciative.  (I may put a post up in the Info forum as well if the semi-double post isn't frowned upon.)

I hope to have more to show in the next day or two.  Thanks for checking in, and as always, questions, comments, and in this case info are always welcome.

Chris


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Re: WnW Bristol F.2b Fighter
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2016, 06:54:45 PM »
Beautiful work Chris! In particular the Wood on the Observers deck and the leather padding on the front cockpit look awesome!
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Re: WnW Bristol F.2b Fighter
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2016, 06:57:49 PM »
Beautiful work Chris! In particular the Wood on the Observers deck and the leather padding on the front cockpit look awesome!
RAGIII

I agree wholeheartedly with what Rick has said

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Re: WnW Bristol F.2b Fighter
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2016, 10:34:35 PM »
Thanks very much Rick and Des.

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Re: WnW Bristol F.2b Fighter
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2016, 11:06:42 PM »
A very impressing start, a joy to look at. I especially like your work on the wicker seat and the canvas backside of the cockpit. Very well done. I purchased the Brisfit some weeks ago and will follow your progress closely.
Thanks for sharing it!
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Re: WnW Bristol F.2b Fighter
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2016, 11:36:01 PM »
Great stuff Chris!

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Re: WnW Bristol F.2b Fighter
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2016, 12:20:56 AM »
Chris,
     Looking even more spectacular!
     I had the same issues as you regarding the 2 vs. 4 blade prop question; despite having read the Data File and the Albatros Publications Special cover to cover and studying photos on line and elsewhere I could not find a definite answer. In the end, for my Build (McKeevers A-7288) I went with the 2 bladed prop shown in the Osprey Profile as well. I followed the same path on the Cooper Bomb Rack, none shown on the Osprey Profile so I left it off. Your A-7182 is the same Production Batch as mine (A-7101 to A-7300) and nearly all photos of this Batch that I've seen show a 2 blade configuration. The exceptions are A-7220 in Data File 115 and A-7300 when modified for Night fighter Trials. As for the guns I believe the single Lewis was standard.
    I hope someone has a more definitive answer or two for these questions, so many puzzles in this little hobby!
Cheers,
Lance