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Offline ALBATROS1234

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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2015, 10:29:23 AM »
that excursion would amount to me at least being billed $150,000,perhaps even more. of course i couldnt pay it so they would scre my credit rating up and/or dock my income taxe return.

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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2015, 09:58:33 PM »
Scott, I really think you have been dealt a raw deal.  Living up here in the
"great white north" we sometimes complain about bumps in our health
care system, but it has served my wife and I well.  I hope the new universal
health care in the USA ease some the your worries about getting treatment
without spending an arm and a leg for it.  I hope it works for all who weren't
covered before.  We hear all kind of conflicting news of it up here, but it is
in my estimation better than doing nothing. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
The new old guy, take two...

Offline ALBATROS1234

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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2015, 03:21:18 AM »
I hear conflicting stuff down here to Ernie .one side hates the ideaand goes on about how horrible it is and how it's going to make us have substandard care etc.the other side thanks it's the best thing since sliced bread.I'm one of those on the fence middle way guysand I have trouble discerning which true which is lies.it's not free though it goes by your income how much you have to pay and if you can't afford it they take it out of your taxes in penalties!how much I don't know

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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2015, 04:25:18 AM »
I am an intensive care consultant. I don't do it for the money. My patients get world class care in an outstanding rated ICU free at the point of use, thanks to the NHS. I went into medicine because I was proud of it. I firmly believe it has been Britains greatest achievement.
I think most  of us would gasp at the cost of modern medicine, even when it's not for profit in a culture of cost saving. There are times I would like to give a bill as an example to some patients, because alas there are those who can get so drunk, they need ventilation in an ICU.

It's paid for via national insurance at 9% rather than VAT though. I  think VATS covers wars and MP expenses.

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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2015, 06:11:42 AM »
Europe is more highly taxed than the USA, that's true.

In the UK, petrol is very highly taxed - when allowing for the fuel duty & VAT, petrol in the UK is actually amongst the cheapest in the world. UK petrol costs around $1.76 per litre, compared to $0.70 in the USA - a factor of around two and a half times more expensive! No wonder UK cars sell based upon fuel consumption as a major factor.

The taxes go towards, amongst other things, quality health care, education, infrastructure and social security spending. The NHS - although not perfect - is a thing of wonder that retains almost complete support from the British electorate. As has been noted, it's funding through National Insurance payments, which equate to 12% of weekly earnings between £155 and £815. If you earn less than £155 a week, you pay nothing but still benefit from the NHS in exactly the same way as everybody else. Anything over £815 a week is taxed at 2% for National Insurance.

Benefit levels are a lot higher in the UK than the USA. For instance, lose your job & you get redundancy pay. You'll get the mortgage interest paid on your mortgage whilst unemployed, plus generous "tax credits" for the low paid. If you rent, housing benefit will pay your rent if you are a low earner or unemployed. You can earn around £10k per year and not pay any income tax at all. If you are unlucky enough to be disabled, you may receive benefits of up to around £900 per month, depending upon your level of disability. You can swap £50 a week of it for a brand new car, fully insured and serviced, replaced every 3 years. Payments are made to those who care for a disabled person. Child benefit pays around £20 a week to the parents of children under 16 years old, dropping to around £14 for each subsequent child.

It's a different culture compared to the USA, far more socialised and hence more expensive in terms of taxation - although the argument is that the benefit to society as a whole, and potentially every individual, is worth the money.

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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2015, 03:31:47 PM »
sounds good to me. over here i havent had health car in 15 years.some jobs offer it most dont. i left that job to go back to college and further my education. there was a discrpency in my financial aid loan and they just cancelled me. i tryed to repeal and pleaded with them. i told them i will have to drop out and wont have the money to finish if you do this to me. this was 7 years ago.lyears before last they agressively caim at me for the $30.000 i owe for school i didnt finish.i just ignire the calls now.heart disease runs in my family. i really need testing,perhaps blood pressure meds and such but can afford insurance or huge bills. if i did i will have bought my last nice kit and or any so called luxuries in life. i would love to move abroad . i would rather pay double for gas and vat since i already pay 1/3 in taxes if i could have national healthcare and education. with those 2 burdens off your back i would imagine closer to what i would consider utopia. of course i know there are pros and cons in every system i also want to get away from the cultural vacuum in the u.s.a. i am over the materialism and ghetto-centric mentality in entertainment over here. do you know that the so-called history channel on tv doesnt have historical documentaries anymore? its all reality shows and if they want to do a show about history they turn it into a movie style presentation. thank god for the internet at least i can get to see those lovely bbc science and history programs.

thanks for the commentary i like to hear how things are elsewhere. i hope you and your families are all healthy and happy.